jason1975

Looks like the crowds are back after a slow December!

Nice! I am encouraged to try it!

Thank you, Divine Madman!

I do think it will be an experience to pay off fees for 3 or 4 boys and just take them out for a night of drinks without sex. Karaoke suits me so I might do that. Going to Dancing Isaan is also a tempting proposition for me. The only downer involved for me is that I don't get to see them in their underwear if we just go out drinking at the bars. I am thinking of inviting the boys back to hotel room and play card games with them and provide them drinks - with the condition that they be in their underwear. I probably tip them 500 baht each. Do you think the boys will bite at the offer?

Vertigo and Moon Bar? That's classy! Maggie Choo's seems like a really interesting place. I haven't been to these places because I always hang around the Soi Twilight bars (and Screwboys, Jupiter and Boys66) during my trips (which are very short). I need to ration my vacation leave and plan for a 2-week stay in 2018.

I did some Googling on this place. It looks amazing! Shall try to go there next trip!

Karaoke is fun! I am sure the boys love to sing!

I have not tasted Hong Thong or other Thai spirits but I shall try them next time I visit Thailand. Drinking with the boys of koz!

Wow, that's really generous!

thanks for responses, my fellow forum members alexx and z909, your responses are perfectly valid. i myself thought that it was silly to pay bar off for boys just to chat with them but upon thinking further, i do believe that this is something to consider, perhaps just for a change from the normal routine. thanks, Vessey, jasper and Divine Madman for sharing your very informative experiences. and of course, thanks, Vinapu, for chipping in

I feel this deserves its own topic in the forum. For those of you who have paid off fees for a few boys but only took them out for drinks instead of sex, could you share with us your experiences? What are factors that determine your choices? How many boys? Which bars do you take them to? What drinks do you order and what do you chat about? How long is the drinking session? Finally, how much do you tip the boys? After i found out that some customers do this, i am tempted to try it on next trip next year.

Thank you all for your appreciative and encouraging responses and comments. Thank you, Divine Madman for your info on boutique massage shops. I enjoyed writing this report as much as experiencing the encounters during this trip.

I am so sorry. I heard his name at the beginning of the massage but it didn't stick in my mind and it was my mistake not to ask him again before leaving. It's one of those one syllable Thai name. He actually works at the counter but he is available for massage. I hope that helps.

I went to Freshboys, T's bar at 11pm to meet him and pay for his off fee. This being my last night in Bangkok for this trip, I didn't want to be tied down with T. We had spent the previous 3 nights playing pool, massage and drinking and eating. I wanted to be free. I passed him one of my two hotel room card keys. I told him he could go first and lounge in the room. He said he would go for a foot massage. 'Ok, see you in the room after 12,' I said. Then I remembered that there was no more water in the room as Laos boy and P had drunk the two bottles of water that the hotel provides daily. So I asked T to drop by at the mart to get water. We were behaving like a couple. From Freshboys, I walked to the end of the soi to visit Classic. It was not empty surprisingly. There were customers, including a group of girls who had been persuaded to step in to watch the water show. Unfortunately, the show only starts at 12. The earliest it would start is 11:30pm provided the place is filled with customers. I ordered a drink and looked at the boys on stage. Not a single one was I interested in. At 11:15pm, I decided to leave and went to Boys 66. I entered in the middle of the show. I was ushered to a front row seat, very close to the performers. The ladyboy's lip synching was spot on and her two dancers were energetic and smiling throughout. I love such shows where the performers are obviously having fun and enjoying themselves. There was a big cock item where 4 boys were dancing in towels. At the end of that item, one boy walked up to 3 lady customers and removed his towel briefly for them to see. Lucky bitches. The last item was a shower show with 4 boys in the glass shower. The show ended at 12 and it was time for the boys to come back on stage (in their signature tanktop and jeans). To my surprise, only 8 boys appeared. When I visited Jupiter on Wednesday night, there were 30 boys at 10pm. The crowd at Boys66 headed for the exit. It was obvious that they were there only for the show. Among the 8 boys on stage, there were 2 boys I liked but I couldn't take them off because I already had T for long time back at the hotel. When I got back to the room, T was busy playing his game on his phone. It is a multiplayer shooting game that connects people from all over the world so there's lots of communication. T was shouting commands to his teammates excitedly and loudly! I was afraid the neighours in the other rooms would complain. I saw two bottles of water together with instant noodles that T had cooked for himself. He really made himself at home in my room. We didn't do much that night. I had to pack. We played a bit then I fell asleep. I was tired. T stayed up the whole night alternating between his game and watching Youtube. At 6am, I woke up. We then had our last session for this trip. After his shower, I paid his long time tip and off he went. I had to get ready to go to the airport. And that's my account of my latest trip. Summary: 1) One threesome experience 2) Two 'boyfriends' (T and P) 3) Three massage places (Baan Tewa, Nine Spa, Arena) 4) Four nights long time with a boy. 5) Five gogo bars (X-Boys, Freshboys, Jupiter, Boys66, Classic) Would love to list 12 things in the spirit of the 12 days after Christmas but first I must stay in Bangkok for at least 12 days. Something to consider for next year!

I shall sidetrack now to reveal why P slept for so long on Saturday. On Friday night (11 plus towards 12), a Chinese customer had gone into X Boys and invited interested boys to drink with him. He would pay their off fees to the bar but he would not pay any short time or long time because no sex was involved. It was just drinking. 6 boys ended up with this Chinese customer and P was one of them. They went to 3 different bars (one in Thaniya and two in Patpong) from midnight until 6am. P said he had never drunk so much whisky in his life before. He was drunk but could still go home at 6am. He proudly revealed to me that he didn't puke. But he had a massive hangover and had to sleep the hangover off the entire day hence he was late and couldn't meet me at 9pm on Saturday night.

The rest of the afternoon was spent wandering around. I visited Silom Complex and Thaniya Plaza, discovering interesting shops. At about 4pm, I went back to the hotel room to nap. I woke up at 6 and went to have dinner at Foodland Patpong. It was still early to go back to Soi Twilight so I just hung out at the bar outside the Pink Panther and watched live football on TV until 9pm. The minute I stepped into Soi Twilight, the Hot Male gogobar promoter greeted me. I had to say sorry to him for not going into Hot Male even though I had said on previous nights that I would. I walked into X Boys. I had asked X Boys mamasan to get P to come in at 9pm. However, I was disappointed that P had not arrived. (There's a reason for that and it involves an interesting story but I shall recount it later) I sat down and ordered a drink while mamasan tried to call P. There were around 10 boys in white briefs on stage. Number 80, who had been smiling at me when I was there two nights ago, was there. I immediately motioned him over to me and asked him to order himself a drink. He introduced himself. He was from Laos, gay and had been working for only a few weeks. He spoke pretty good English - better than many of the Thai boys. I explained that I was there to take P and Laos boy seemed disappointed. Laos boy then asked me if I would consider taking him and P together. He held out two fingers to me. I was intrigued. Just then, mamasan came to me. He couldn't reach P on the phone. The phone rang but no one picked it up. Mamasan said P could still be asleep. Still asleep at 9pm? But because I really like P, I decided I would wait till 10 for him. Laos boy and I chatted and he moved closer to me, letting me see and feel him up close. At about 9:45pm, P arrived. I asked him if he was ok for a threesome. 'No problem. Let's go,' he said. Now you know why I like P so much. The bill came out to 1700 baht - 1000 baht for off fees and 700 baht for drinks. I paid with two 1000 baht. The change of 300 baht, I tipped mamasan and a waiter. As I walked out of the bar with Laos boy and P, there was some applause from the boys on stage. Walking out of the soi, I was stopped by the Hot Male promoter. He smiled and congratulated me after he saw the two boys walking behind me. I was in a really good mood. I took out my wallet and tipped him 100 baht. The threesome, unfortunately, didn't turn out as great as expected. The Laos boy, who had promised much, was a dud. P and I had a good time as usual. The Laos boy was a spectator and did very little. Eventually the session ended after everyone had cum. Laos boy went to shower. P and I took this opportunity to play a bit further. We had to end after Laos boy came out of shower. It was P's time to shower. After he showered, I paid up. I gave Laos boy short time rate but I gave P a bonus. They left and I tidied up the room to get ready for T for the rest of the night.

Day 3 ended with T in my room. Once again, we had a session in the morning when we woke up. He left after showering. It was Saturday and I thought of going to Chatuchak but the thought of the crowds turned me off. I wanted a day of exploration on my own. I decided to go south - Chong Nosi area. I walked and explored this particular CBD area. Experienced forum members would probably have figured out by now that I intended to check out Baan Tewa. I had lunch at a quaint cafe called the Unicorn Cafe, a theme cafe focusing on unicorns, My Little Pony and the colour pink - lots of pink everywhere. 200 baht for 3 scoops of ice cream and 8 waffles in a rainbow of colours was worth it. After that, I just wandered around the shops in the office buildings. I stumbled upon a branch of Asia One bookstore and was delighted to find a copy of the December issue of Attitude - a gay Thai magazine with some pictures of Thai boys. It's pretty difficult to find Attitude on the magazine stands because it gets sold out very quickly. At 1pm, I made my way to Baan Tewa. In terms of location, it's easy to find. Just drop off at Chong Nosi BTS and exit down the stairs and turn left into a lane. Baan Tewa is at the end of the lane. Unfortunately, when I was there, there were only 2 masseurs available. Most of the masseurs report for work after 2pm. I decided on a young and cute looking boy. I had wanted 90 minutes (which cost 790 baht) but the boy asked me if I would accept 60 minutes for 600 baht. He asked me three times. I was puzzled why he would ask me for a shorter massage. I would discover why later. While I was deciding whether to go for 90 minutes or 60 minutes, I remembered the wise words of advice given by many forum members here previously - follow the recommendations of the boys because they know best. So I agreed to 60 minutes with minimum tip of 1000 baht. The boy brought me up some stairs to the room on the top floor. There was a sturdy bed in the middle with a cutout for the head. The boy let me shower first while he brought up the cream and oils. After my shower, I lay on the bed. It was my first time on a bed with a cutout for my head. The boy came in and started energetically, even going up on the bed above me to massage me. He had strong strokes. The first 15 minutes were really good. After that came the scrubbing and I soon realised that he only did basic scrubbing, nothing advanced. He also lacked the sensual and erotic touches that I received from the masseur at Nine Spa. But all this while, we were engaged in a lively and pleasant conversation. He had been to Singapore once so we could chat on a common topic. Then I found out more about him. He had only started on massage job for 7 months. He had to quit his studies because he could not afford the school fees so he had to work. He said that he managed to earn enough so that he could go back to school in March when the school term starts. He was working another 2 months. It was then that I realised that he was not an experienced masseur hence he was hesitant to give me 90 minutes massage. I really appreciated his honesty. He could have bluffed his way through 90 minutes but he did not. We proceeded to the specials. He was very affectionate and I enjoyed his smooth young slender body. We showered together and soaped and washed my back very well. I tipped him very generously (1500 baht) despite his inexperience and lack of skills in massage. A variety of reasons 1) I was moved by his story 2) Christmas was near and I was feeling generous 3) He gave good after-massage service 4) I had a great conversation with him about Singapore 5) He showered for me (which the guy from Arena didn't do the previous day!) I guess if I had gone to Baan Tewa later, I would not have picked him. But fate works in mysterious ways. I did not get the true Baan Tewa experience hence I cannot make like-for-like comparison with Arena, Prince and Nine Spa, which was my intention in the first place. After the boy got the tip, he was smiling happily. We continued chatting at the entrance while I sipped green tea. Before I left, I gave him a hug and encouraged him to study hard when he goes back to school.

I am in Bangkok now but on the way to airport! Had my fill of fun last night. Merry Christmas!

I went back to Soi Twilight. T was waiting outside in casual clothes. I passed him money for off fee then we went to his friend's bar again for drinks - I ordered hot tea to fight the chilly 18 degrees weather. After our drinks, we picked up supplies at 7/11 then went back to hotel. Just as previous night, we did some light playing before fatigue overcame me and I went to sleep. T, as usual, stayed up to watch Youtube. But enventually he also slept at about 3. We both woke up automatically at 7 and had an enjoyable session. T washed up and left at 8. I lazed around in my room before going out at 10 to Siam Paragon to watch the latest Star Wars movie in 4DFX. After the movie, I headed off to Arena. None of the massuers who had serviced me previously were around but there were plenty of other guys (about 30 to choose from). I picked a tan and well toned guy. He said his name is Sam and he is from Isaan. He had strong strokes but he didn't have the sensuality that I got from Nine Spa's Aek the previous day. Nevertheless, I enjoyed his impressive body and tool. Tipped him 1000 baht for 790 baht massage. I would have tipped 1200 if he had showered with me after the massage but well, he didn't. After the massage, I met a friend from Singapore at MBK then we had dinner and we went to Soi Cowboy to watch the girly go go shows. It was his first time stepping into a gogo bar. He thoroughly enjoyed it and we only left at 11:15pm I took BTS back to Sala Deang. Went to X-Boys to ask about P. Glad to know that he got taken off by a customer. The previous night, he had asked me for another session and I told him I couldn't confirm because I was going out with my Singapore friend. Anyway, I asked mamasan to help me message P. I will definitely take him off on my last night in Bangkok on Saturday but he has to come in earlier at 9. After settling arrangements for P, I went to pick up T from Freshboys. I apologised for being late. As we walked out the Soi, the guy from Hotmale pleaded with me to go to his gogo bar. For the past three nights, he had approached and I always said,"Tomorrow night I come" but I never did. I felt so bad and I gave him a 100 baht. He was so happy! The expression on his face was priceless. T and I decided we would go for massage tonight. We chose the massage shop just outside Soi twilight and beside The Raya. I went for foot massage while he went for Thai body massage. He requested for a "girl massage". Sure. After one hour, we were done. I paid for everything and we headed back to the hotel.

I headed to the first bar on right. X-Boys. I was looking for P, a boy-next-door tall Thai boy with a shy demeanour. I had taken him off 3 times previously last December, March and September this year. He wasn't at the bar. I found out that he was coming at 10 which was an hour away but the ever helpful mamasan called him on his phone and promised that I would see P in 30 minutes. Mamasan got tip from me straightaway. As I waited for P, I surveyed the 8 boys on stage. Not as twinky as Screwboys but also not as desirable as Jupiter. I would say that they are your typical Asian types. One boy, number 80 kept smiling at me non stop. Several others were also trying to get my attention. There was a group of guys and girls celebrating birthday so they got attention of most of mamasan and waiter. The boss, Mama was seated with a customer wearing a cap. And there was me. P arrived and we were both glad to see each other. We hurried out and went to hotel room. We were familiar with each other so we wasted no time. I timed myself to finish our session at 10:45pm because I had arranged to meet T at 11pm. While P was showering, T texted me. It was 10:50pm. "I am ready to go."

Quite update on day 2 while T is showering. After massage at Nine Spa, I went back to hotel. Stopped by a ramen roadside stall at Thaniya because the two boys cooking and serving were cute! As i ate at the sole table facing Surawong Road, I was taking in the sight of the boys hard at work. After eating, went back to hotel to chill for two hours before proceeding to Foodland Patpong for cheap and good dinner. I deliberately went there because I wanted to check out Screw Boys. Same as what I saw in September. Twinky boys in the odd blue checkers on white briefs or trunks. I wanted to see if No.12, a Vietnamese boy whom I offed twice in September was around. Unfortunately, it seems he has quit the business and gone back to Vietnam. The other boys on stage at Screwboys didn't catch my eye. So on to Soi Twilight. And this is when I have to stop because T has finished showering.

This afternoon, I went to Nine Spa massage as recommended by Divine Madman, our massage expert in this forum and after trying it, I agree with his assessement and rate Nine Spa as among the best in Bangkok. I added Nine Spa on my Line account in the morning. Within minutes, there was a reply. I wrote that i wanted a massage at 2pm. I received a series of photos of about 10 boys who are working today. I took my pick and confirmed my booking. The location is quite a walk from Asok BTS and Terminal 21 and I didn't want to get lost amidst the small lanes around there so I ordered a Grab car to take me from Raya hotel. The Grab app quoted 150 baht. Driver arrived within 2 minutes of my booking. But the horrendous Bangkok traffic jam meant that i only arrived at 2:15pm. At 2:05pm, there was a helpful message from Nine Spa asking if I was lost. I replied that I was stuck in jam. The place itself is situated in a residential area. Furnishings are quite basic. Definitely not as posh as Prince. A guy at reception greeted me and led me to room. There was a proper bed in room with en suite bathroom. The boy whom I had selected came in soon and introduced himself as Aek. He is smooth, muscular but medium built and had beautiful well-shaped cock. His massage strokes were strong but sensual at the same time. He knew the right spots to go for. There were some positions and strokes that i had never tried before but oh my, they felt so incredibly good! The 90 minute session passed by very quickly because of his superb skill. Around 70 minutes of massage was followed by 20 minutes of extras. He was very willing and open minded and had condoms ready but i was contented with just a hand job. I had come after all for the massage and i got them. Fee for 90 minutes of massage was 700 baht. Minimum tip of 1000 baht written in menu. I gave a tip of 1200 baht and would definitely go back again!

This afternoon, I went to Nine Spa massage as recommended by Divine Madman, our massage expert in this forum and after trying it, I agree with his assessement and rate Nine Spa as among the best in Bangkok. I added Nine Spa on my Line account in the morning. Within minutes, there was a reply. I wrote that i wanted a massage at 2pm. I received a series of photos of about 10 boys who are working today. I took my pick and confirmed my booking. The location is quite a walk from Asok BTS and Terminal 21 and I didn't want to get lost amidst the small lanes around there so I ordered a Grab car to take me from Raya hotel. The Grab app quoted 150 baht. Driver arrived within 2 minutes of my booking. But the horrendous Bangkok traffic jam meant that i only arrived at 2:15pm. At 2:05pm, there was a helpful message from Nine Spa asking if I was lost. I replied that I was stuck in jam. The place itself is situated in a residential area. Furnishings are quite basic. Definitely not as posh as Prince. A guy at reception greeted me and led me to room. There was a proper bed in room with en suite bathroom. The boy whom I had selected came in soon and introduced himself as Aek. He is smooth, muscular but medium built and had beautiful well-shaped cock. His massage strokes were strong but sensual at the same time. He knew the right spots to go for. There were some positions and strokes that i had never tried before but oh my, they felt so incredibly good! The 90 minute session passed by very quickly because of his superb skill. Around 70 minutes of massage was followed by 20 minutes of extras. He was very willing and open minded and had condoms ready but i was contented with just a hand job. I had come after all for the massage and i got them. Fee for 90 minutes of massage was 700 baht. Minimum tip of 1000 baht written in menu. I gave a tip of 1200 baht and would definitely go back again!

I am wondering to myself. Does the fact that i see the same boy 4 nights in a row make me his boyfriend / sugar daddy? How do the other boys perceive this? As we are all aware, word about customers spreads quickly among the boys.

I didn't bait boy with Ipad. He is already inclined towards long time because he is Vietnamese and has to share a room with 3 other boys. Staying overnight in a hotel room with king size bed, sofa and spacious toilet is a definite welcome change away from his roommates.