jason1975

I suspect sometimes the customer knows that the guy will be a dud in bed and just wants to enjoy the good looks and company for the night. Ordering a bottle makes sense as you can drink with the guys unlimited. The cost of the bottle can even be spread over 3 visits (but have to pay cost of mixer 450 baht)

Excellent analysis! Thanks for sharing!

From your experience, which of the nationalities speak the best English? My ranking based on the guys I met: 1) Vietnam 2) Myanmar and Thailand (tie) 3) Laos 4) Cambodia

I wonder which of the guys I met passed the virus to me! I should have asked each of them in advance whether they had been ill recently!

Lucky you that you got a guy who's so nice and caring to you! He's a keeper!

After the euphoria of 3 guys in one day on Wednesday, the next two days were spent in hotel room. I came down with dry cough, running nose and chills on Thursday evening. On Friday morning, I went to nearby Bangkok Christian Hospital and the doctor gave me pills but strangely, she did not require me to do a Covid test. Definitely no alcohol for me while I am on medication for next few days. I hope to be better to visit the bars on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day, my last two nights for this trip.

When I was in Bangkok in June, the guys in Banana were in white briefs. The rest were in shorts or jeans. During my current trip, guys in Freshboys, Hotmale and Banana are all in white shorts. I believe it's instructions from the top. I will ask the guys in Banana tonight as I am going there and taking them back for drinking session.

After two days of celibacy, it was back to whoring. In the late morning, I got a Grnder hit. A Myanmar guy approached me. After I saw his pics, I said yes. He came in half an hour. Gay. Mid 20s. Waiter. It was his off day and he does this to supplement his income. Speaks very good English. "How did your English get so good?" "Youtube and books!" he replied. Both of us were very happy with each other. After he left, he sent me a message on Line, "You want to meet my friend? He is muscle tone. You will like him." I asked Myanmar Grnder waiter to send me his friend's Line id and I contacted him. Surprise surprise his friend was not from Myanmar. He was Thai! Also mid 20s. Gay. I scrutinised his Line profile. He was a yoga instructor before Covid. I found out later from him that he currently works at massage shop at Ari. Thai Grnder massage guy came to my hotel room in evening and I had a very happy session with him. He speaks very good English as well better than the average Thai standard. I teased him about Myanmar Grnder waiter who made the recommendation, "Is he your boyfriend?" "No, we are good friends. He help me find customer and make money." So sweet to see the guys looking out for each other. At night, I stopped by Hotmale Beer Bar 1st floor. Aung the waiter was back from short holiday. But I had promised Cambodian Jupiter twink to off him tonight for a 2nd time (after our first meeting the previous Saturday) so I told Aung I would talk to him tomorrow. At Jupiter, I still had half bottle of whisky. Cambodian Jupiter twink was delighted to see me. He was in white counterfeit Versace briefs and I told him to get changed but we would finish the bottle of whisky before leaving. At Jupiter, the guys change dress code every night - some nights it's white briefs, some nights red briefs and some nights black briefs. Can be briefs or trunks and most Jupiter guys wear briefs but these are not the skimpy ones but rather the normal swimming trunks kind. Unfortunately, the Jupiter guys come out on their catwalk so quickly that if you are not quick enough to pick them, you will miss the chance to get your guy. I think they go on catwalk 3 times every night. On weekends, they might do more catwalks. The catwalk is recorded on video by a mamasan and it is uploaded on its Facebook / Twitter / Tiktok pages. It was through the video uploads that I became so infatuated with Cambodian Jupiter twink and that prompted me to off him in the first place. When he got changed and sat with me, I asked him to invite some his Jupiter guys friends to sit with us and drink. He invited two Cambodian guys - one a real hunk with a fabulous smile and another guy who was there on his first day of work! After finishing the bottle of whisky, Cambodian Jupiter twink and I went back to hotel room. Unlike Saturday which was short-time, I did long-time with him tonight. Very happy day for me and a record because 3 guys in one day!

Nothing to report for past two days because I was busy being tour guide and bringing my friend from Singapore around (straight) Bangkok. But I did drop by Hot Male beer bar 1st floor at midnight after finishing my tour guide duty and met a handsome, charming and hunky new waiter from Myanmar!

@vinapu and @Bravo You guys should really arrange to be in Bangkok at same time and meet one day! The two of you really utilise and enjoy every minute of your holiday with the guys!

I shall check out no. 46 tomorrow even though i actually prefer twinks and Freshboys is my bar of choice!

Careful there, those Maxis customers might be forum members here! Haha

Sunday - once again, Grndr has proved another happy hunting ground for me. Late morning I received a message for some fun. Vietnamese guy. 25 years old. Gay. This is my 5th guy through Grndr in one week! And it was them who approached me first. At night, I went to bar to watch World Cup football. I was supporting France but when France was down 0-2 at half=time against Argentina, I called it quits and headed back to Hotmale Beer bar 1st floor. Alex the bar tender teased me mercilessly, "Are you gay or not gay? If you gay, why you go straight bar to watch football?" I ordered hot tea to keep myself warm as the temperature in Bangkok has dropped in the past few nights. Twinky Laos waiter was dancing and lip synching much to my delight and the delight of the other 3 customers at the bar. Most customers had gone into the bars for the shows by then. He is spontaneous and fun to have around. Close to midnight, I went up to Freshboys to look for cute twink whom I offed a few nights ago. Found him sitting with another Freshboys guy with farang customer. He saw me. I told him I would take him back today. He was happy and got changed. I hope the farang customer wasn't angry with me. We were back in hotel room for extra time of the France-Argentina football match. Cute twink wasn't interested in football so he watched his Thai drama on his phone. After the football match was over, I switched off the TV, dimmed the lights and got into bed with cute twink.

The customers are slowly but surely coming back to the bars. Just in time for Christmas and New Year. Quite a diverse range of age, gender and nationalities. I actually like the post-Covid vibe without the loud customers from China.

Another excellent trip report. Thank you for taking the time to write and share them with us. @vinapu

You can be very direct in your messages with Myanmar massage guy. The guys here have seen and done everything. Can just ask him how much to go to hotel and negotiate from there.

This Tawan guy works at a gym so he said ok to long time but he needed to leave at 8 in morning to open the gym because only he had the keys to the gym. Spoon subsequently found out that another guy also had the keys. So Tawan guy extended his morning session with our dear member.

@Bravo you are like @vinapu You don't waste time during your holidays!

Saturday - Day time was spent early morning shopping at Platinum Plaza to avoid crowds and then heading back to hotel to laze at swimming pool in afternoon. Met and chatted with my new friend at pool to ask him about his off from Hot Male last night. He enjoyed his Cambodian guy very much and he actually said to the guy to meet him at hotel lobby on Saturday morning. However Cambodian guy didn't speak or understand English. My new friend thought that when Cambodian guy nodded his head, it meant yes but unfortunately, when he went to lobby, Cambodian guy didn't come. My new friend waited for half an hour and finally gave up. I explained to my new friend that he should have used Google Translate to confirm the off. But it's alright. He learnt something new. I took afternoon nap after an hour at the pool. Fast forward to evening 8pm. My new friend was all packed and had checked out. We had arranged to meet at lobby for me to say a proper goodbye to him. Interesting gentleman and I really had a good time with him during the past 2 days. After his taxi headed off to airport, I made my way to Thai restaurant along Sala Daeng Road named Somtum Der for dinner with Spoon and surprise, surprise a forum member who has not posted in years - The Divine Madman, the expert on massages in Thailand! It was such a pleasure to meet him and get news on the latest massage shops and of course the massage guys themselves. He was on local Thai telegram channel where the members there rate the massage guys and massage shops. He showed Spoon and me the Telegram channel on his phone and it was filled with thousands of posts and photos! No wonder he has stopped frequenting this forum. After dinner, we parted ways and I pleaded with him to find the spare time to log in again and share his vast knowledge with the rest of us massage like in the old days. My plan for the night was to get the Jupiter guy whom I am infatuated with and was too late to catch him on Wednesday night. As it was early, Spoon and I entered this new bar called Bi-Polar. It's on the second floor of the Silver Silom restaurant. Tickets at 400 baht for 2 drinks. It's a hybrid between a disco and a show bar. There were standing tables where customers can stand around with their drinks and a stage. When we asked what time the show would start, we got the answer, "Soon. 10 minutes." Unfortunately there were only 2 performers - a ladyboy and a male dancer. There were also few customers. Apart from Spoon and I, there was a group of 3 young farang gays and their young farang girlfriend and there was also another group of 4 Korean gay tourists. Spoon and I regretted entering the bar and we finished our drinks before heading off to Jupiter. Soi 4 was packed with people this Saturday night and we had to squeeze our way through. Outside Banana, the former Hotmale bar promoter was there. I passed him a pack of cigarettes and I said I will go his bar another day. Mamasan Lucy was at the door and staring daggers at us! At Jupiter, Spoon and I sat right at the back of the bar where we could lean our backs against the wall. Many of the good seats were taken. I showed mamasan photo on my handphone of the Jupiter guy I was infatuated with. I had taken screenshots of Jupiter videos on Facebook where he appeared and had been admiring the guy's handsome face the past 2 days. Mamasan said he will come to me after the opening catwalk by the Jupiter guys at about 10.30pm. I asked for my bottle of Johnnie Walker from Wednesday night and waiters very efficiently prepared my drink. I had to pay 450 baht for mixer for bottles that are kept in the bar fridge. Spoon commented that Saturday night seemed to have fewer customers than Wednesday night. The moment he said that, the customers started coming in! By 10.30pm, it was totally packed including a group of 7 to 8 young ladies who took the first row and they were cheering on the Jupiter guys when they entered. The Jupiter guys were all smiles when they saw their fans. Some even looked sheepish and embarrassed by the loud attention that is normally reserved for K-pop idols. As promised by mamasan, the Jupiter guy I was infatuated with came to me after the Jupiter guys left the stage and the first performance started. 25 years old. Cambodian. Bi. Spoke good English. Only worked for few months in Jupiter. I knew he was new because I didn't see him back in June. I talked to him about off and he said yes. He quoted 4000 baht for short time and I countered with 3000 baht. He nodded yes and I told him to get changed. I turned to Spoon. Anyone for tonight? No unfortunately. He had massage in afternoon and wasn't in desperate need of a guy tonight. We left Jupiter once Cambodian guy returned and I paid bill for drinks mixer and off fee which was 500 baht. There was still half a bottle of Johnnie Walker left and I asked mamasan to continue keeping. I would go again another night. I was glad that I got Cambodian guy so early otherwise he might be taken by other customers which was what happened on Wednesday night when I first saw him. In fact, he was not the only early off. Spoon and I saw another Jupiter guy, all changed, walking to two customers on our right. Soi 4 was even more packed when Cambodian guy, Spoon and I stepped out of Jupiter. We made our way to Hotmale Beer Bar 1st floor for drinks and chatting. The shows at Freshboys, Dreamboys and Hotmale had all started so there were fewer people in soi Patpong and we could have decent conversation. Alex the bar tender was as usual charming some farang at the bar counter. After we finished our drinks, I took Cambodian guy back to hotel and said bye to Spoon who would be going off to Pattaya tomorrow.

Excellent to start your holiday and well-written! Bravo!

All right, I shall go to Tawan one of these nights to have a look

Yes, During my current trip, I notice that Moonlight has more customers than Jupiter.

Friday night - My new friend last night in Bangkok. Took him to Hotmale Beer Bar 1st floor. Alex was there behind bar counter! Spent about an hour chatting and drinking. After that introduced my new friend to Foodland Patpong. He enjoyed the food very much. Tonight we would go to Hotmale. Forum members Andy and Spoon (I called them brothers because they are together every night!) were already there seated inside and we joined them. About 20 guys. No briefs unfortunately. They wore white singlet with Hotmale logo in front and black track pants. Some were topless and flexing their chests at customers which was few - not more than 15. Show was nice. No drag queen doing lip synching. All the performances were done by the guys themselves. I especially love the traditional Thai dancing by 4 guys. Big cock show was nice as well. Much more polished than Freshboys and not as sleazy. My new friend called over one Cambodian guy and he left first. His first time in Bangkok gogo bar so I had patiently answered all his questions in advance - "Should I keep my valuables in safe? Do I need to check him in with hotel reception? When do I pay him his tip - before or after sex?" I would find out later that my new friend enjoyed his session with Cambodian guy even though the latter didn't speak much English. There was only one guy in Hotmale whom I liked. I thought he was Vietnamese based on his looks but mamasan told me he's Thai. Good looking but not tonight. Perhaps another time. At midnight, spoon and I went off to Tawan. They had ended their show. Many of the Tawan guys were in prime physical shape because there is an upcoming bodybuilding competition. I was slightly disappointed that the guys didn't recognise me from the jockstrap party back in June. Maybe they only remembered the farang organiser and didn't take note of his Asian sidekick. But in any case, I will never off a Tawan guy. They are too large for me. Even the twink in Tawan is twice the size of the twinks that I adore. Spoon and I saw a 1.85m guy in really great shape but unfortunately he didn't do long time. Spoon settled on another guy for overnight. Very good body. I went back hotel room empty handed but it's alright.

I was at Tawan last night. If only you had posted your account of day 7 earlier, I would have looked out for "twink" Mas.

Thursday - At the hotel swimming pool, I chatted with a guy in 60s from UK. His first time in Bangkok. He had been holidaying in Hua Hin for a week and was staying 3 nights in Bangkok before flying back. Being friendly, I offered to show him around the gay bars at night. Deal he said and we would meet at 8pm. In afternoon, I tried out massage at new massage shop 9-Teen. All male staff. Brand new facilities. Clean and nice. Spacious room with en suite bathroom. But massage guy was picked by manager was straight and didn't undress. He only offered handjob for 500 baht tip and I said yes. His massage skills, however, were very good. He did a great job on neck, shoulder and head. At 8pm, I met new friend and took him to Hotmale beer bar on 1st floor. Alex was not working unfortunately. Aung was nowhere to be seen so left to chat with other staff. One handsome waiter served us. If not for my new friend, I think I might have chatted with this handsome waiter the whole night. After beer, I took new friend to Soi 4. He liked the gay vibe but said it was ok compared to Brazil (he had been to gay scene in Brazil as he has Brazilian boyfriend). We ate at Circus which had drag queen lip synching performances. I found out that spoon and andy were at G's at same time having dinner. They joined us at Circus and we introduced each other. Plan for the night was Freshboys and Moonlight but the problem was which one first? I said if we go to Moonlight late, there will not be any good seats left. And Freshboys only gets exciting after midnight. So we decided on Moonlight first. We walked past Thaniya which was filled with girls outside the bars. Thaniya in fact looks even better than pre-Covid! At Moonlight, all seats facing stage directly were taken but there were seats on the left side of the stage occupied by Moonlight guys. The guys vacated the front row for us. In my opinion, these seats are even better because the Moonlight guys seated behind and next to us and we could talk to them if we wished. One thing I like about Moonlight compared to Jupiter is that they allowed the Moonlight guys to be showcased on stage. 6 guys at a time, their red number tags in full display. Full house with mix of male and female customers. One group of youngish male and female customers in their late 20s came halfway the show and they sat right in front of stage. They had bottle service and even invited two Moonlight guys (including no. 26, whom we agreed was very cute and handsome) to sit with them. Show started late but lasted one full hour. All the Moonlight models were present including a latest addition. I don't know his name but I find his eyes and smile charming. In fact, when all the Moonlight models presented themselves on stage towards the end of the show, he was the first to received 1000-baht garlands - not one but two! It was awkward for about 2 minutes that Babe and Nicky did not receive any garland. But eventually, the garlands came and Babe and Nicky got theirs. I think almost everyone receive at least one garland together with 100-baht tips that came with vodka shot. The models seem to hate drinking the shots but they gallantly finished every single shot passed on to them by the mamasans from the customers. As for the show itself, every model has performance tailored to showcase his talent. Babe was obviously the star. Nicky sang a Mandarin song for the customers from China (fewer but there were some). Smart and Mark did a really creative Dracula-priest erotic performance. I would rate Moonlight show better than Jupiter show. At midnight, the singers took over and it was time for us to take our leave. I finally got to meet famous Moonlight guy, A, one of @vinapu all time favourites. When I looked at his rock hard well defined body with incredible abs, I finally understood why he is a favourite. Even yours truly here, who prefer twinks, especially cute small ones, am turned on by A's abs. We left Moonlight and made our way to Freshboys just in time to see the big cock show. My new friend enjoyed the show and even said, "This is better than Moonlight!" After the show ended, Freshboys guys went on stage and I spotted one twink I recognised. Laos. 22 years old. He had been in Moonlight pre-Covid and I saw him at Moonlight but had been too shy to off him then. This time, I would not be shy. I walked to the stage, tapped him and invited him down. We spoke a bit and I got one of my dream offs. Had a memorable short-time session. I suspect I will be meeting him again during this trip.