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I hope that is not the case. I haven't seen any indication of that, even with the bars that have the under-age boys. I believe those kinds of bar problems stem from foreign pressures and certain boys in brown who have their hands out. As far as the Thais themselves are concerned, the way I see it is that most don't care about the bar scene at all.

I suppose we've all experienced "the one that got away." Damn! I hate when that happens. Too bad he didn't figure out a way to give you his number . . .

I don't think you were rude in any way at all. You know what you like and you say so. I see nothing in the world wrong with that. We all have our personal likes and dislikes and there is plenty of variety out there to accommodate everyone's individual tastes. Something for everyone, ranging from the ultra muscle types that you like to the ultra femme lady-boys that others like. And I think we all also have our own individual likes and dislikes as to what we like doing with them once we have them alone. I'm very glad you are finding what you were seeking and are having a great time on your holiday here. In addition to the Tawan bar, you might also want to check out the various gyms and Muay Thai boxing schools. You'll probably be especially successful since you made it clear that you are looking for guys willing to flex and pose for you and are not really seeking much beyond that. I hope this is only the first of many more holidays in Thailand to come for you. Have a wonderful time and I hope you keep us informed about your experiences here.

Very good! You got me on that one. Touch

Last evening I was talking with a friend who really is in a position to know what goes on with the bar scene in Pattaya. We were discussing the problems bars are having and we both think that part of the problem is that fewer gay farang are coming to Pattaya these days and they spend less money when they are here. For example, he said that many bars are noticing that the type of customer who had always been a two or three drink customer and would call a boy to sit with him and buy drinks for him too, now is more likely to nurse one drink for the time he is in the bar and if he calls a boy over at all, buys him only one drink. He also said that the gay personals sites, the most popular being Gay Romeo and Camfrog, really are having an impact on the bars. I mentioned that I am a good example of that. Since moving here I stopped going to the bars all that often, and since meeting guys on the personals sites is so easy to do, and so many of the boys on these sites are also bar boys, now I go to the bars even less often. For me, I go to the bars about two to four times each month, and that's it. If I am in Bangkok, I don't go to the bars anymore at all. His opinion is that the bars are going to have to come up with ways of competing with the gay personals sites if they are to thrive or, in some cases even survive. I am inclined to agree. What do you think? I'm very interested in your observations and opinions.

Once you saw that I wish you had gotten right back on and got off with him at his stop. I would love to know how that story might have ended. I have a feeling that you wonder about it yourself.

Are you trying to kid me or yourself? Most people know exactly who you are and I am sure they judge for themselves the value of your comments. Now, as for the lowdown on Dark Side restaurants, I refer you to the following thread on Thai Visa, where you will find 39 pages of lowdown, the most recent being the last page. The Dark Side - Thailand Forum

I get the impression you've convinced yourself that you have a lot more influence on things around here than you actually have. I doubt that Chez Vickie, or anywhere else for that matter, is going to succeed or fail based on anything you or I have to say. People will try different restaurants and they'll either like them or they won't. Simple as that. I haven't seen very many restaurants that are exactly full anyway these days. The only exception to that I've seen is Wednesday nights at Cherry's. Their buffet always draws a huge crowd. I haven't tried Alois yet. One of these days I'll get there. I tend to stick primarily with restaurants out here on "The Dark Side." For me, it's a trek getting to the restaurants most everyone else goes to since I live nowhere near them. I have plenty of restaurants I like right here, restaurants most people who read this board, including you, probably never heard of. When was the last time you, or anyone else reading this, ate at Ann's Garden, Sure Park, Manneke Pis, The Fisherman, or Ticino?

Jesus of the Week 2010

I don't think you or Chez Vickie have to worry. I happened to pass by Saturday night too. They were quite busy.

What some of you may not know is Amazon now will ship a wide variety of items, including Kindle, to Thailand. The way it works is when you go to "checkout" you will get a calculation of the additional shipping cost, import duty fees, and whatever else. It is added to your final bill and prepaid. All you need to do is receive your item. All the fees are prepaid and handled by Amazon. That takes the headache out of ordering from Amazon if you can't find what you want within Thailand.

The following appears in the BANGKOK POST: _____ Poll: Many Support Talks with UDD Published: 21/03/2010 74.78 per cent of the respondents in Suan Dusit Poll's survey on the red-shirt demonstration agreed with the government's move to hold talks with the anti-government protesters to end the continuing political turmoil. The survey was conducted between March 18 and 20, involving 1,468 respondents in Bangkok and neighbouring provinces. 14.79 per cent of the polled said they were unsure whether such negotiations would be successful as it would depend on the decisions of key members from both sides. 10.43 per cent believed negotiations would be useless due to both sides' totally different political stances. On the respondents' views on the mass red-shirt rally of the anti-government United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD) in Bangkok, 31.52 per cent viewed that the government was patient and capable of dealing with the red-shirts. 26.23 per cent believed the demonstration was held in an orderly manner and it could gain more support and people's acceptance if no violence took place. 17.72 per cent believed the UDD rally could gain interest from international media. 14.90 per cent said they were apathetic to politics and were not happy with traffic problems caused by the protesters. 9.63 per cent believed the red-shirt leaders were cooperative with authorities.

Whether you agree with the editorial or not, I don't think there would be much disagreement that whatever he is, Thaksin is no Gandhi or Mandela.

The following appears in the BANGKOK POST: _____ Thaksin, Get Out! Published: 21/03/2010 The United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD) needs to get rid of its figure-head. It needs to do away with former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra. People like Veera Musikapong, Weng Tojirakan and other nameless, faceless red shirts out there have been fighting for democracy since Thaksin Shinawatra was still selling cell phones and promising to solve Bangkok traffic in six months. Sure, Thaksin's money and connections go a long way in organising the movement. Certainly, he was elected by popular vote and wrongly ousted by a military coup. The man has legitimate complaints. But still, what Thaksin stands for _ his shady character and his salesman antics, his lack of principles and his hypocrisies _ can only prevent the ultimate goal of the UDD, which is to bring about a true democracy (or at least as close to it as possible) to Thailand. When Thaksin's henchmen (Jatu-porn Prompan and Nattawut Saikau) were preaching ridiculous, reactionary hellfire and brimstone, and other hardliners called for ''extreme measures'', Mr Veera should have been applauded for standing firm and insisting that this has to be a peaceful, non-violent movement. The motto ''the enemy of my enemy is my friend'' is fair enough, but those UDD who are genuine about democracy should be careful not to corrupt their principles for the sake of ''teamwork''. What sort of hold Thaksin has over the red movement, I'm not quite sure. A few elements of the UDD have expressed their disdain for Thaksin _ and yet, no one dares to break away and form a true movement for democracy. Is it about the money? Is it about the power? Has Thaksin somehow made them an offer they couldn't refuse? I know a thing or two about an offer one can't refuse. Last Tuesday I was offered the opportunity to go on the ''G-Force'' ride at the amusement park in the grounds of the old British Embassy. Now, I get motion sickness riding in cars, and many would say I'm too old for an amusement park ride. But the thought of doing otherwise never crossed my mind. If the offer had been to run naked across the Phan Fa Bridge with the face of Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva tattooed to my back, I would have said: ''Hold on, first let me call my mum to say my last goodbye.'' The reason I'm digressing here is, as much as others may not understand why I went for the ride, many others have expressed puzzlement as to why those genuinely fighting for a true democracy would hold Thaksin up as their figure head. The difference is, I know why I went for the ride, but perhaps the ''genuine'' red shirts do not realise why they should break away from Thaksin and his minions. So perhaps I should tell them why, after all, I've already accused the former prime minister with a few strong words in this article. So I should back them up, right? Is it wrong to accuse a former leader guilty of corruption of having a shady character? I'm not even talking about the asset seizure case. The 2008 Ratchada land scandal was rock solid, not to mention the guilty verdict was passed under the regime of Somchai Wongsawat, the then prime minister and brother-in-law to Thaksin. Is it wrong to insult his salesman antics? One doesn't have to buy votes, but is promising the entire country one million baht per village, cold hard cash, if you vote for the Thai Rak Thai party any different from putting up the sign ''Democracy for Sale?'' It might not have been illegal, but was it wrong? Is it wrong to point out that he lacks principles? The man claims to stand for democracy, yet his gross abuse of human rights led to the murder of more than 2,500 civilians. Not to mention his various attempts at repressing freedom of speech and expression. Is it not accurate to call him a hypocrite? The former prime minister keeps insisting that he's Thailand's Mahatma Gandhi, the Kingdom's Nelson Mandela. Now do I need to get into the details of how delusional, how ridiculous this is? Would either man leave their supporters to fend for themselves while living it up in beautiful Montenegro on the Adriatic Coast, or Dubai, or Berlin, or Phnom Penh or anywhere else? It's an insult, not only to the nations of India and South Africa, and every individual within the UDD movement, but also to the history of human civilisation itself. Thaksin Shinawatra is the red-shirt UDD movement. This will always be the truth until those ''genuine'' elements within the UDD movement wake up and realise they have been hoodwinked, hog-washed, that with Thaksin they'll never find real democracy, but it's autocracy that will smack them in the head. No doubt, the status quo, the oligarchic rule by the military and aristocratic elites of Thailand needs to be changed. But replacing them with the oligarchic rule of business elites will only lead to a dystopian vision of George Orwell's nightmare. If one understands Thai history and the current situation, one would realise that the old elites have an expiry date. Supporters of democracy will have a much better chance against them. But the new business elites, if they get a firm hold on power _ well, the likes of Mr Veera and Dr Weng may end up weeping: ''I should have known better.'' I don't know why the red shirts are hooked on Thaksin, but I do know that the offer of a true democracy, of human rights and opportunities, should be more than enough to tempt them away. And they'll end up the happier for it, just like I am with the G-force ride. Even if I was blaspheming against all the gods, pagans or otherwise, every time it did a 360-degree flip high above Bangkok's skyline. So, red-shirt UDD, let's wait before screaming: ''Abhisit, get out!'' Let's first yell: ''Thaksin, get out [of the UDD movement]!'' Or make him an offer he surely couldn't refuse: ''Thaksin, get out of Montenegro and join us in the streets. Risk the hardships and a prison term _ like Gandhi and Mandela did for their countries.''

Anything I am being told is passed along to GT. However, try as he might, I doubt there is anything he can do about it because the source of the problem does not seem to be from the board itself. It would be interesting to know, however, just where the finger of blame needs to be pointed. I'm not sure whether the problem is occurring exclusively from within Thailand or from other countries as well. It gets difficult because even if the problem is only occurring within Thailand, I have no idea how to figure out why it happens to some people, especially those who had never had this problem until recently, and why it doesn't happen to others. Even if we can figure it out, I don't know if there is anything we can do about it. The only things I can recommend trying for those experiencing the problem is to do the standard procedures such as cleaning out the cache, trying a good registry cleaner, re-starting the computer, configuring the computer so that unnecessary programs don't auto-load at start-up, etc. Other than that, I don't know what can be done.

I suppose anything is possible, but I doubt that is the problem because several people who never had a problem before now have the problem, but they haven't changed any of their settings. Their settings are the same now as they were prior to these problems, so how could that account for the problems? I think it's more likely a combination of factors including more internet traffic slowing things down, use of WiFi, people's own ISPs, etc. I'm no guru either, but I don't see how it could be coming from the board side. If it was a problem with the board itself, then why would some people be having the problems, but others are having no problems at all? For the same reason, even though GT recently changed servers, again only some people are having the problems and some people were reporting this to me before the servers were changed. I don't see how that could have anything to do with it either. The thing that puzzles me most is that some people are saying the only website on which they are having these problems is this one. It will take someone with much more skill than I have to figure it out.

That's right . . . part of the problem. It's more complicated than just that. I get complaints that some can't log in, some can access the board but only agonizingly slowly, and some can't access the board at all. And even then, with some people the problems are intermittent.

That is correct. Part of the agreement is that the full sentence be served. The recipient country can't decide that the Thai court was corrupt. They can't even have a hearing about it. Where would they get witnesses from? However, there is leeway about the manner in which the sentence will be served. It could be prison. It could be work release. It could be many things. My understanding is that each case is handled individually and the agreement has to be acceptable to both countries.

Me too. The last time I changed my style was in celebration of Alaska and Hawaii becoming states . . .

RichLB and I still have yet to do what we've been planning to do for the better part of four months - go up and down all the sois along Jomtien Beach road. We've made discoveries we really like. I suppose the two main reasons we haven't done that yet are because 1. We tend to stick to the restaurants we already know and like, and 2. Lazy.

If they can't access the board, how are they going to see your message . . . ?

Since both Jesus and Mary put in appearances every once in a while on the insides of jar lids, on vague images on walls, and even on potato chips, my question is how come, after 2000 years, they've never changed their wardrobe . . . ?

Are we actually going to debate which restaurant is better? You like L'Olivier. I like Chez Vickie. I think people ought to try them both and make their own decisions. Do you disagree?

Well, I am interested in sex and I would appreciate details.