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Their web site, Pattaya GAY TV , is still there, but as far as I can tell their last video was in April. They also used to post here, with a link, when new videos were placed online. Does anybody know if they are still in operation?

That's the best one yet! Can't wait to try it. The scariest part is it apparently is real! I wonder if fresh tastes better than canned. It's probably more expensive if your soup is made strictly from pedigree and served accompanied by a nice plate of lightly sauteed rat's asshole. Do you realize somebody had to be the first person to come up with the idea of making soup out of dog penises? Waste not, want not I always say. I wonder how many dogs ended up making the ultimate sacrifice and went to that big fire hydrant in the sky to give their all for this delicious sounding gourmet delight. Maybe some of those dogs are still alive, but now barking in a higher voice. You know those lost dog ads that appear every so often? Well, wonder where they went . . . Hey, I've got a great idea for the next time one of the bars hosts a free buffet. A Google search turned up the following: "Time to celebrate! We decided to go for dinner and eat something different... Kenny took us to a restaurant that served dog, which we ate along with other meats that we cooked on our table in a bowl of boiling water. This was a local restaurant - cheap and basic - which brewed its own beer on site. Jim tried the beer and confirmed that it tasted as though it had passed through the dog on its way to us. Dog isn't a very good meat - they serve it with the skin on and there's lots of fat and gristle, but no hair, so they presumably shave it first! One more thing caught Kenny's eye on the menu - he didn't even want to suggest it at first: Dog Penis Soup. The world contains two types of people - those who, when confronted with Dog Penis Soup, will try it, and those who won't. Actually there's probably a third type - those who would have a hissy fit and storm out of the restaurant - but they don't count because they have no balls. I have eaten the dog penis and, let me tell you, there's a reason that fellatio isn't really a big thing in the dog world. It's rubbery and kind of tasteless. Thankfully it was chunks, and not a whole dick. I'm not sure even I could have pulled back the skin and eaten that. Apparently it's supposed to make you strong. You know, "strong". Down there. The rest of the meal passed without further surprise and I returned to my hotel room alone, and never did discover if I would be "stronger" than usual. I suffered no ill effects from the soup, although I had to turn around three times before I got into bed, and I'm still resisting an urge to lick my own balls...." Mr Bison's Journal: Dog Penis Soup

Quality since 1922 . . . I sure wouldn't want any cock soup that wasn't quality cock soup. I'm particular about that kind of quality. I wonder if it was quality before 1922 . . . Unfortunately they are now out of business. This salon used to be located on Pattaya Tai, just outside of Center Condo. But they're gone. I was sorry to see them go. I never got the chance to have them fumigate the steam. One of life's major regrets . . . Another PS: Speaking of things that need translating, anyone besides me remember Crayola Crayons? One of the happy moments of my childhood was when I finally convinced my parents to get me that really large box. I remember one of the colors that kind of intrigued me . . . Raw Umber. I never did figure out just what that was supposed to be. I never used it. I didn't have any idea what umber was and I still don't, but I felt it shouldn't be raw. It ought to have been at least medium rare, but they didn't have any Medium Rare Umber. By the way, purple was always my favorite color to eat . . .

Many farang insist upon speaking English to Thais just as if they are talking with another native English speaker, complete with the speed of the words, slang, figures of speech, idioms, etc. Then they can't figure out why the Thai person didn't understand. Usually the justification I hear for that is the Thai person won't really learn English unless you speak English the way you would with native English speakers. That's fine and seems to work rather well when already in a relationship with a Thai. You become accustomed to being able to tell whether or not your Thai friend is grasping the meaning. Other than that I disagree. The way I see it, when it comes to making sure I am fully understood, I'll use "Thainglish" every time. There are times when it is far more important to be certain you are understood than it is to be giving an English lesson. For me, the only exception to that would be when I am speaking with a Thai I have known a long time, long enough to have become used to what I know he does and does not understand. Another factor that I have observed to be the case: Farang are far more likely to tell a Thai boy he didn't understand than a Thai boy is to tell a farang he didn't understand. Quite often I notice many Thai boys are reluctant to let the farang know they didn't understand. Instead they'll act as if they did understand and then hope for the best.

Proofreading by a native English speaker? What for?

That's a very good "I Don't Get It." I never thought of that before, but you're right. Very often I hear about these things after the event has already occurred. And where do I hear about them? From the English language media. Almost never before, but invariably after. Maybe I'm looking in the wrong place. Of course, in my case I want to hear about most of these events in advance not to go to them, but so I can be sure to avoid them (and the traffic nightmares that usually are part of them).

I agree with xiandarkthorne. If he had not told you, that's when you would have something to worry about. He's attracted to him. So what? I don't understand why that would upset you. I see plenty of guys I find very attractive every day, but that doesn't mean I would betray an established boyfriend. I believe if your boyfriend was even contemplating cheating on you, then he never would have said anything. But let's not let this topic go off on a tangent just yet. I'm very interested in what others have to say about "No Lie Man."

It's not Thai, but this one has always been one of my favorites:

Based on what so many boys tell me, they get a lot of promises that are never kept. The most common are farang who tell the boy they love him and convinces the boy he now has a relationship. Also there are promises of money every month, promises to pay for school, to help them set up a small business, to pay their rent for them, and all kinds of other things. In many cases the farang really did become infatuated with the boy while he was here on a holiday and meant what he promised. But then he goes home to his reality, realizes he was in a dream world while in Thailand, and either does what he promised for a few months and then just stops or doesn't live up to any of the promises at all. The rarity is the farang who actually does do all he promised and continues to do so. So, the boy is left high and dry, often heartbroken as well. Often the boy has become dependent on the money 'his farang' sends to him. When it suddenly stops, now the boy has no money to pay his rent or anything else. Few of them ever save any money. Many send whatever they can back home to mama, and Hell will freeze over before mama ever gives enough back to the boy so he at least can pay his room rent. Every month I get "I not have money for room" calls. Often it's their own fault because they spent whatever they had. But just as often it's because their farang dropped them and they really don't have the money because of it. I would think a person with any reasonable regard for others would at least give the boy one or two months notice before stopping the money if that's what he intends to do, but few ever give them any kind of notice at all. I remember one incident in which the farang was in Thailand only for a portion of the year, but he had the boy living with him in his rented apartment. When he was gone, the boy still was able to live there. The farang eventually dropped the boy, but never said anything to him. The farang also stopped paying the rent. The boy had no idea. I still clearly remember the tearful call from the boy when he went home one day only to find the apartment locked and the management wouldn't even let him in to retrieve his personal belongings. It took weeks to finally get his stuff out of there. Similar incidents are all too common. While it is true that many of these boys are only out for all the money they can get, and they too are not above lying their asses off to get it, it is also true that many are quite sincere about wanting a relationship and fully intend to use the money as they said it would be used. Over the years I've had many boys come to me in tears when their farang simply dropped them. Most of the time it's some sort of a money issue. Sometimes it's something else, but most of the time it's a money issue. So, what they're essentially trying to say in their Gay Romeo profiles is, "Please don't make promises to me that you're not going to keep."

Excellent! I'm glad your efforts were worthwhile.

I don't know if it universally applies throughout the USA, but where I lived it meant to be careful. The cops have a speed trap just ahead.

I'm not going to rehash all the items on my own "I Don't Get It" list, but in keeping with what you wrote, I've seen billboards on the roads that advertise in English, but the location for what is being sold is written in Thai. I've also seen billboards on which nothing is said about where it is sold at all; English, Thai, or anything else. I've also seen ads for promotions at Tuk Com, most often telephones, but nothing is said about which of the seven billion mobile phone outlets in there is running the promotion. If it's all of them, wouldn't it make sense to say so?

I don't know if the editing time limit applies, but the poll does have an option for you to delete your vote and re-vote in case of just such an error. It appears just below the poll questions. If you see it, you can still do that.

Very good report and I thank you for reinforcing my dislike for every bar in that soi. Based on your descriptions, none of those would be where I would be seeking out an enjoyable evening. For me, when in Bangkok I would rather stick with Saphan Kwai, finding freelancers, going to Babylon, heading out to Saranrom Park, or even grabbing a boy in the Malaysia Hotel's parking lot and gazebo. But as for Soi Twilight, for me it won't even make the list. I remember when those bars used to be fun. What happened?

Soooo, been reading my Gay Romeo profile again . . . ?

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Why?

Just fine where it is. I'm sure most people are reading both threads, so it really doesn't matter which thread on which you post your opinion.

Because it has always been the expectation. That doesn't mean you, me, or anyone else has to comply with it. Maybe I need to clarify. It is the expectation . . . on the part of the bar. It just so happens I agree with you, but you seem to have interpreted what I wrote to mean that you are obligated to buy the boy a drink. No! You don't have to buy a thing for the boy and sometimes I don't. I'm on your side on this one. I also don't give a rat's ass whether the bar likes it or not. If I want to buy a drink for the boy, I will. If I don't want to, I won't. Simple as that. Anyone who thinks I allow myself to be pressured into buying a drink for the boy doesn't know me very well. However, I make sure of drink prices for the boy before calling him over. If I do call him over I normally go ahead and buy him the drink if, and only if, I think the drink is reasonably priced and I'm also happy with the circumstances. Believe me, the bar isn't going to get me to pay 300 baht to buy a boy a drink. If that's the price, the boy is going to be thirsty. But if it's a boy I like, he'll get a good tip whether I bought him a drink or not. I too get annoyed when I call a boy over and a waiter or mama-san is in my face trying to get me to buy him a drink before the boy has even had a chance to sit down. I tell them I'll let them know if I want to buy a drink for the boy and I shoo them away. If I decide to buy the drink, I call them back. If not, I make sure the boy understands I'm not about to pay 300 baht for him to have a coke he probably doesn't even want. All he wants is the tip that he gets when the customer buys a drink for him. If the bar charges 300 baht for his drink, and gives him only somewhere between 20 to 50 baht for it, they can forget it. So, I make it clear to him he'll have a good tip, but the bar can forget about me buying the drink, especially if they try to pressure me into it. I do the same if they try to pressure me into taking the boy off. If I'm interested in taking him off, I'll call the mama-san or waiter over. But if they're trying to pressure me into it, I don't care how cute and attractive I might find the boy, that's the end of the off right there and I make sure they know it and know why.

I don't consider that cheap. I consider it having sense enough not to permit yourself to succumb to rip-off prices. It's one thing when a person is in Thailand on a holiday and wants to have his good time no matter what the cost. Those are the people who usually tell us all about how much it would cost back in their home countries, something I consider to be completely irrelevant considering they are not in their home countries. It's quite another for those of us who live here or spend enough time in Thailand to know how to find what they're looking for without paying rip-off prices. I am under no obligation to patronize any of those bars. If I do patronize those bars I am under no obligation to call a boy over to sit with me. If I do call a boy over to sit with me, I feel obligated to give him a tip, but I do not feel an obligation to buy a drink for him if the drink prices are exorbitant. To me, any bar charging more than 150 baht to buy a drink for the boy is charging a rip-off price and I won't pay it. If anything, if I like the boy, I would rather give him a good tip than give my money to a bar that wants to charge ridiculously high prices.

I have not been to those bars in quite some time. That is the reason why. If that is typical of Bangkok prices these days, then I can understand why you would not buy drinks for the boys. I suppose people have their reasons for going to those bars, but I won't have to worry about paying those kinds of prices. I won't go to any of those bars in the first place. The next question, then, is not why you would go to those bars, but why you would call a boy to sit with you at all. You might not want to pay that kind of a price to buy a drink for the boy, which is tantamount to paying the bar 300 baht just to have the boy sit with you, but that does not alter the fact that buying a drink for the boy is the expectation, whether you wish to comply with that expectation or not, isn't it? If buying a drink for a boy you call over is not the expectation, then something has changed.

In the "I Offed a Boy" thread this came up and I think it is an interesting enough issue to see how you all feel about it and what your own practice usually, but not necessarily always, is. I did not include a choice of "I don't call boys over" as an option despite the fact that when sitting in a bar you don't necessarily call boys over all the time, or even at all, because this poll and discussion is about the practices of those who do call boys over. I also always include "Other" as an option when I post polls in case none of the poll options apply to you. I believe that when you call a boy over to sit with you, the standard practice is to buy a drink for him and also tip him. However, I also believe if a boy sits down with you uninvited, then you are under no obligation to buy him anything or tip him if you do not wish for him to sit with you. It's a different story if he sits uninvited, but you spend time with him anyway. Whether or not you take him off is not a factor of the issue covered in this poll.

That leaves three possibilities that you do practice when you call a boy over, whether Bangkok, Pattaya, or wherever: 1. You call a boy over, buy a drink for him, but do not tip him. 2. You call a boy over, do not buy a drink for him, but do tip him. 3. You call a boy over, but neither buy a drink for him nor tip him. Which of those is your practice?

Then I shudder to even think about what the origin of "taking a shit" must be . . . "Why do we say 'take a shit'? I never take a shit. I leave it there." - George Carlin

My thoughts are that nothing should simply be blanketed into place and that's the end of it. The example you cited is certainly a far cry from a serial rapist. I would hope that individuals would have the right to some sort of appeals process so that whether a passport is issued or denied is up to a judge or some sort of committee, basing their decision on the merits of the case instead of up to a label.