Gaybutton

And that's an important point. We've posted about that many times in the past. If one bank branch doesn't give you the answer you were hoping to hear, just go to another branch of the same bank. Chances are very good you'll get a totally different answer. Welcome to Thailand . . . Actually, on second thought I think Thaiworthy would be better off getting his retirement visa in the states, rather than waiting to get it in Thailand. Once he has his retirement visa, he shouldn't have any problems about coming to Thailand on a one-way ticket.

There is nothing complicated about getting a retirement visa and you don't need to be doing any of the things you're doing. First, don't get the retirement visa until you are in Thailand. The procedure is far simpler once you are in Thailand. You don't need any visas at all. You just enter on the usual 30 day privilege. You'll need the embassy's proof-of-income statement, a Thai bank account and updated passbook, proof of your residence address in Thailand, one passport photo, a filled out retirement visa application form which you can get at the immigration office, and 3800 baht. That's it. That's all you need. You don't need anything else. For a first-time retirement visa, it's probably advisable to get your Thai bank's "letter for immigration." Banks charge 100 or 200 baht for it, depending on the bank. If you ask for "letter for immigration," your bank will know exactly what you mean and exactly what you want. In addition, take the following with you when you apply for the visa: 1. copy of your most recent visa 2. copy of main passport page 3. copy of your bank passbook's main page 4. copy of your departure card Armed with those items, they'll do everything right there, on the spot. 1900 baht to convert your 30-day privilege and another 1900 baht for the retirement visa. It's very simple and I've personally witnessed it done that way twice. Getting the retirement visa won't be any problem at all. Your problem is going to be trying to get your airline to let you board your flight with a one-way ticket, but no long-term visa. I would suggest first contacting your airline, explaining what you're trying to do, and see if you can get their permission to board your flight with a one-way ticket. If you can't get their permission, then you have several options. You can spring for a round-trip ticket. You can buy a refundable round trip ticket and get your refund once you're in Thailand. You can buy a ticket out of Thailand to another country, such as Malaysia, Singapore, Laos, or Cambodia. To answer your question about the departure card and the 90-day address report, when you arrive in Thailand and are going through customs, they'll staple your departure card into your passport. Never remove anything from your passport. Let them do that. Yes, the clock starts ticking on the 90 day address report upon arrival in Thailand. For the 90 day address report, you need: 1. Photocopy of your passport face page 2. Photocopy of your most recent visa stamp 3. Photocopy of your departure card 4. Proof of home ownership, rental contract, or bill in your name showing your address 5. Your actual passport The above is for Pattaya. 90 day address reports in Bangkok may be a little different. The different immigration offices all seem to have their own requirements. When you go to the US embassy to get your proof-of-income statement, make sure you have an appointment. They won't take walk-ins anymore. You can make your appointment online at: https://evisaforms.state.gov/acs/default.asp

Sorry, but it's much more fun to take your comments the wrong way . . . Besides, it's still possible that Firefox is not the culprit at all. It probably is, but that's only our guess. Obviously I can still get in as long as I use a more inconvenient method. I prefer that to switching browsers. I'm used to Firefox and I like Firefox much better than any other browsers I've tried. And so far this is the only site I'm having trouble with. The thing is - this is the same version of Firefox I was using before the upgrade and I had no problems at all then. While Firefox may be the reason for the problem, it seems obvious to me that something in the upgrade is why the problem even exists. Is anyone else out there using my version of Firefox? If yes, are you also having the same problem I'm having? I'm available . . .

Ahaaaaa! Maybe that's it. If I'm using a beta version, I didn't even know it. If everyone else using Firefox is getting in without any problems, then that's probably the explanation. I just sent in a report about the problem to Firefox.

What I told you/us/bedpost was: And I turned out to be right . . .

I don't see that as a problem or something negative. It has always been my opinion that numbers of posts are meaningless. I believe the whole point of these boards is to provide information about Thailand. That's what the lurkers are getting. I don't see much of a reason for anyone to post just for the sake of posting. Unless they have questions or something relevant to contribute, what would be the point of them posting? I'll be the majority of the lurkers have never been to Thailand and are interested in whatever they can find out from reading these boards. I'll also bet that within that group, many can only dream about coming to Thailand, but probably never can.

Unless I follow the procedure I outlined above, I still get the blank screen.

What did I tell ya . . .?

That is precisely my point about saying this thread has become a pissing contest. Let's see, how many posts ago did this thread still have anything to do with Thai Guys in Tight Jeans? Besides, you're not the one putting down me or my board. However, somehow I'm failing to see how whether I'm a hypocrite, how much of a news article I'll allow to be posted, or whether I follow my own rules to the letter has anything to do with Thai Guys in Tight Jeans. I think you already know as well as I do, as soon as bkkguy sees this post, his response won't have anything to do with it either. However, since this thread is supposed to be about Thai Guys in Tight Jeans, I'll at least include a little something about it. That way, I still get to be a hypocrite - just not as much of one . . .

But I am a hypocrite. I've never claimed to be anything else. And guess what - I don't give a shit whether you like the way I do things or not. What I would not do on my board is allow a thread to degenerate into a pissing contest, such as this thread has become. I also would never permit anyone to use my board to criticize, complain about, or put down another board or its administrators and moderators. I'd delete those kinds of posts the instant I see them and tell whoever writes them if they have a problem with another board, take it to that board. "How do you like them eggrolls, Mr. Goldstone?" - Ethel Merman, 'Gypsy'

I didn't know many fail. Has there ever even been a gay massage in Sunee? I don't recall any. The ones I know about are around the Tuk Com area and are still in operation. I hope this massage does succeed. I think it has a good chance. Obviously, he can't really advertise "happy endings," but to the best of my recollection this is a new idea for Sunee. If I'm wrong about gay massages previously being in Sunee, maybe the time is right for a fresh start. I think for many, this might be just the thing. No uncomfortably loud music. No obligatory drinks. No pushy mama-sans. Also, some people have expressed embarrassment about being seen walking along the sois with a young lad. Maybe the idea of getting what you want, one stop " in-house," will be quite appealing to many. Only time will tell. Of course, for a slight fee . . .

You expect a massage to be included when visiting a massage parlour? I didn't realize you're so finicky and hard to please. I'm even harder to please. I like your idea of the small shorts, but I can do without the shirts. I recently went to a massage place that offered happy endings, but I doubt I'll go back. The price was right, the boy was very friendly, absolutely my type, flawless body with no blemishes, piercings or tattoos, very provocative attire, and his massage skills couldn't possibly have been better. The problem was - the happy ending part was self service . . . No luck on Gay Romeo for me either. I got into a chat with a young gent who got more and more interesting as the chat continued. I was all set to meet him, but then he revealed he is heavily into bondage. That actually kind of excited me, but I decided against meeting him anyway - despite the fact he's the Thai that binds . . .

That's right. I'm glad you finally figured that out . . .

Clearing the cache doesn't help me. I still get the blank screen. I don't encounter this problem if I switch over to IE Explorer, but the browser I use is Firefox. I had no problem at all until you did this upgrade and it's just too inconvenient to have to switch back and forth between browsers. I'm sorry. I know the problem is not your fault, but the programmers trying to blame the browser is ridiculous when that same browser had no problem until this upgrade. They need to find what is causing this problem and they need to fix it. That's what you're paying them for. If they can't fix the software they're busy selling to people, then they need to hire someone who can. I'm not even convinced their upgrade actually resolved any security issues in the first place. What security issues were they resolving?

Remarks such as "Well, sorry, all boards but yours. Yours is perfect and never any issues and no spammers. My apologies for thinking otherwise" and "I do apologize if you thought I was trying to insult your lack of rocket science intelligence" are not condescending? Ok. I don't know what we're arguing about. All I'm saying is the current software has problems and the problems need to be dealt with. That has nothing to do with "defending" the board. The board itself is not the problem. The software is the problem. I've already explained the problem and I don't see a need to debate about it. I'm not making it up.

There's nothing to show. I get a completely blank white screen, just like the inside of the posting box in the "Reply to this topic" below. It also seems to me that I'm not the one taking it personally. As I recall, you sold this board, but your posts are coming across as being upset about the board software having problems. Unless this is still your board or you designed the current board software, what does it have to do with you and why all the condescending remarks you're posting? None of it alters the fact that a software problem exists and it needs to be fixed.

I fail to see what that has to do with problems on this board. Yes, I certainly have had problems on my board. I've also solved them. Are you trying to say the fact that I've had problems on my board means I shouldn't say anything if I experience problems here? And I do understand software quite well, thank you very much. The fact that you have had zero problems doesn't mean everyone else is also having zero problems. I've tried accessing this board via the suggestions you've made. For me, the only thing that works is what I've already said. I've never had to go through the main web site to get to the board before and I don't want to start having to do that now. I also don't want to have to start playing Musical Browsers to access this board. Rocket science or not, until now I had no problems accessing the board with one quick click. What has been done on this board is not my idea of a software update. If that's what it was supposed to be, I don't see any significant changes at all. To me, the purpose of a software update is to improve the functionality of the software. All I see is a change in the appearance of the board. I freely admit I may be missing something regarding improved functionality, and if I am I'd like someone to point it out. You said in your own post that you are "a firm believer in keeping things updated and working properly." The board has now been updated, but if people are having problems as a reslult, that's not my idea of working properly. Is it yours? Pattayamale's, z909's, and my complaints are legitimate and the software needs to be fixed. It doesn't take rocket science to see that either.

That is precisely what I'm trying to say. The board was working perfectly. Nobody was complaining about difficulty accessing the board. Nobody was complaining that the board now has an "old" look and is in need of "sprucing up." Nobody was complaining about the format, the layout, or saying they need to zoom in. That's why my opinion is nothing was "broke" and in need of fixing. Sometimes the best intentions are a flop. In my view, the new format is a flop and I'm not alone in having difficulty accessing the board. No matter how much a new look might be appreciated, if some of the membership is having problems accessing the board, you've got a big problem and it needs to be effectively dealt with. The way I see it, now there are three choices: 1. Fix the board. 2. Restore the board to the way it was. 3. Do nothing

Excellent. Now, suppose you tell me just what on this board is now "spruced up" and is a more attractive presentation than before. I've missed it.

As I posted on my own board: That's how I got to the board now. I'm a firm believer in "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." With the exception of the automatic log in feature (And that feature still doesn't work, at least for me), this board was working perfectly. I fail to see why changing it around was necessary or how anything about it is significantly improved. Messing around with it has caused problems and glitches. Quite frankly and in all honesty, even if there were no glitches at all, the differences now present in the board leave me "underwhelmed." I see nothing impressive or even particularly desirable about the changes. My unsolicited advice is: If and when you get this board working as it is supposed to, unless some sort of really important "can't live without it" improvement comes along, then leave it alone. Why try to make alterations to a message board that is already working perfectly? I don't think very many people go to this board, or any board, because of how pretty it looks or because of bells and whistles. They go to the boards to read and post messages. But in all honesty, when simply trying to get to a board at all becomes an inconvenient chore, that's when I stop going to that board very often or even stop going to that board at all. I hope these problems will be fixed - fast.

I have a few reasons why I prefer Gay Romeo to the bars. Living here, the go-go bars lost their fascination for me long ago. I almost wish that wasn't the case, but now I prefer looking for young gents from the comfort of my home, rather than spending the evening bar hopping and spending money on drinks I don't want, the obligatory "drink for boy," off fees, excessively loud music volume, etc. I just don't enjoy the go-go bars anywhere near as much as I used to. When I was here for holidays and even when I first lived here, if I missed a night in the bars, I felt like I was depriving myself of something. Now, the bars simply are no longer a priority for me. I still do go to the bars every so often, but I find all I want using Gay Romeo. With Gay Romeo, I don't even have to leave the house. If I find a willing young gent, twenty minutes later he's knocking on my door. No drinks. No off fees. When a farang takes a boy off from a bar, if he returns to the bar the same boy often assumes the farang came back for him. Some people find it very awkward and uncomfortable to call over a different boy and reject the boy he had already taken off. There's really no reason for that, but if it is a problem for you, that problem doesn't exist when using Gay Romeo. Another reason I like Gay Romeo is not every boy is a money boy. In the bars, by the time you're done, you can easily go through several thousand baht just finding the one who attracts you the most, and he's not interested in going with you or even sitting with you unless he's paid to do so. I've met many guys on Gay Romeo who not only are not money boys, but won't even let me pay their taxi fare. I'll be damned if I have the slightest clue why they would be attracted to me, but I'm sure not going to argue with them about it. Gay Romeo is certainly not for everyone. With the gay bar scene here, I would think most holiday makers prefer that to sitting on a computer. The bar scene is the reason many come here in the first place. Many want to see the person live rather than relying on photos placed on Gay Romeo. Another reason to use Gay Romeo - not everyone lives in Pattaya, Bangkok, Phuket, or anywhere else where a gay bar scene exists at all. Even many who come to Thailand for a holiday are not interested in the bar scene or coming to cities such as Pattaya. It's not their thing. Gay Romeo can come in mighty handy in such locations. I also like Gay Romeo because quite often I prefer to meet guys in the afternoon rather than at night. Sometimes the morning too. The bars are open only at night. Gay Romeo has plenty of guys available 24/7 - even on holidays when the bars have to be closed. With Gay Romeo, if you wake up at 5:00am and are feeling a little frisky, there will be guys on Gay Romeo even at that hour. It all depends on your point of view, what you're looking for, and how you prefer to do your looking.

The only objection I have is you haven't posted more pics. If you've got 'em, post 'em.

Some of the photos also include a male and female farang who were caught up in the photos. By bkkguy's logic, their permission is also necessary before the picture can be posted. And don't forget to obtain permission from the marine police officer in the boat in the background of one of the pictures. Next time, just swim out and ask him it it's ok. How about photos of the crowds at Songkran? Don't forget to find and obtain permission from each and every one of the people in the crowd. The rules are here for a reason. Common sense also comes into play. If bkkguy wants to place such a literal interpretation of the rules just to make some sort of ridiculous point, let him. "John Marshall has made his decision. Now let him enforce it!" - President Andrew Jackson (supposedly he never actually said that)

"In my opinion, lousy." - Walter Matthau, 'The Sunshine Boys'

Yes, he's the owner. I hope you made him aware of the Email. Based on your post above, his board software apparently has several glitches and I wouldn't be surprised if the Email turns out to be one of them. Again, if you or anyone else experiences these kinds of problems, unless you tell him about it he won't know a problem even exists.