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That would be fine with me if it were possible. All I am able to do as a moderator is either let a post stand or delete it entirely. I do not have the ability to enter someone else's post and edit it. Actually, it might be better the way it is. I don't want to end up being accused of entering someone's post and changing what was said.
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As far as I know, that is not being enforced. People keep telling me they bring boys to their room and nobody bats an eye and nobody asks them to pay a joiner's fee, at least for "short time." If you have someone staying with you the entire night, that may be a different story, but I still have not heard anyone say they were asked for a joiner's fee even under those circumstances.
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I appreciate that very much, Aunty, and I know how frustrating it must have been for you. I realize many people dislike it very much when a board takes steps to bring things under control, but unfortunately this sort of problem plagues all three of the most popular gay Thailand message boards. It was not easy to come to this decision and I assure you there was much discussion between the moderators and GayThailand before we were able to come to a consensus as to how best to handle this. There is always a set of people who want to try to control the message boards and feel it is their right and privilege to dominate and be abusive. If these same people were cooperative from the outset, then taking steps would not be necessary. But if we don't take steps to bring things under control, then they take control and those kinds of posts never stop. So, we're stopping them. Again, GayThailand and the moderators set the rules and policies of this message board. Those who wish to violate them are going to have to find somewhere else to post. I've said it before and I'll say it again: Posts that comply with the rules and policies of this message board stay. Posts that don't get wiped. It's just as simple as that. If that makes me, GayThailand, or the other moderators control freaks, then we're going to be control freaks. One thing needs to be clear to everyone. We are not going to let this board degenerate into a battleground for those who think this is the place for them to post abusive messages. We try our best to bring the best of gay Thailand to this board. Personal squabbles between posters have no place here and we're all through allowing this board to provide such a place. Those who wish to post flame posts are wasting their time here. As soon as we see them, they're gone. Two messages on this thread have already been removed for just that reason.
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I don't recall the article, but I know Bumrungrad Hospital in Bangkok does this sort of work. Have a look at the following URL: http://www.bumrungrad.com/plasticsurgery/r...and_surgery.asp
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Note from GB: The exchange rate mentioned in this article is the bank rate. At the moment I am posting this, the actual rate at which you will receive baht per US dollar is 36.23 to the US dollar. BANGKOK, Nov 27 (TNA)
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I don't think they'll mind at all. Those same "problem children" have already been posting on those boards for quite some time.
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You're welcome. I forgot to tell you in the E-mail that you have to insert an 8 in telephone numbers in Thailand now. Try dialing 81-859-6585. Drop the zero when dialing from outside of Thailand. That is probably why you're having problems reaching him. Try again. Also, make sure of the time of day. Jimmy answers his phone from 10:00 AM to 3:00 PM, Thailand time. If you are calling outside of those hours, then you won't reach him. If you can't reach him, do not book directly with the hotel. You won't get the discount you can get by booking through Jimmy. If you can't reach him, send me another E-mail and include your name, date of arrival, approximate time of check in, what kind of room you want, whether you want a smoking or non-smoking room, and date you will check out. I'll be glad to call him and make the reservation for you if you are unable to do it yourself.
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We've got quite a debate going on the "Common courtesy eludes . . ." thread. Since we're still debating that issue, I might as well throw in another one. What about the beach? How do people feel about seeing a boy at the beach who you like and would like to take back to your hotel room, but you also see he is already with another "farang?" What are you going to do in that situation?
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Common Courtesy eludes impatient Farang in Go-go-Bar
Gaybutton replied to ChrisUK's topic in Gay Thailand
I count my blessings every day. Even when I'm having a frustrating problem I always step back and say, "At least I'm here having the problem." Regarding the bars, yes, local residents potentially have more options, with emphasis on the word "potentially." I have no objection at all if a boy on whom I've set my sights gets "offed" by someone else. That's not the problem. My objection is that if I already have a boy sitting with me, and the bar is full of plenty of other boys, then I don't see any reason in the world why someone else gets to just walk in and decide to take the very boy I'm with or cause me to be forced to make a quick decision whether I want to "off" him or not. I might 'potentially' have more options, but at least in my case I'll bet you're in the bars more times during your two week holiday than I'm in the bars during any six months of living here. Believe it or not, there are actually "farang" living in Thailand who don't wish to spend their lives going to the bars every night. Isn't that incredible? So, on those occasions when I'm in a bar, and on the even more rare occasions when I call a boy over, the last thing I would want is for some selfish person to waltz in and impose himself on me and the boy I'm with. For those who try to justify that kind of an imposition by saying, "If someone is just sitting with him, but I'm going to 'off' him, then he'll make more money," is that so? I wonder if it occurred to those people that the person who got there first might only want the boy to sit with him long enough to share a drink, uninterrupted by someone who just can't wait. Doesn't a customer have a right to that? He'll get a tip from most people for that. He'll also get one from you if you're polite enough to at least allow the guy to finish his drink with the boy before trying to 'off' him. One argument was that it might be someone's last night in Thailand. How do you know that is isn't also the other guy's last night? Even if you know that it isn't, he got there first. That's called tough luck. Sorry, but if you walk into a bar, see a boy already sitting with a customer, and decide that's the boy you want (or want to 'rescue'), then I see no justification in trying to take the boy away from the person who got there first. -
Common Courtesy eludes impatient Farang in Go-go-Bar
Gaybutton replied to ChrisUK's topic in Gay Thailand
Nobody said you have dominion over a boy because you bought him a drink. If he wants to go with another "farang," that's his decision. It's the other "farang" trying to "off" a boy already sitting with someone else that I have a problem with. You said it yourself, "Certainly there are other boys in the bar who would suffice at any given time." Exactly. I agree. If you want to "off" him, do it. The problem is that just because you are able to make an instant decision, that doesn't mean everyone else has to do the same thing. Some people take time making a decision and I don't think they should be forced to make a snap decision just because some other "farang" walks in and decides he wants the same boy. Let the other "farang" who wants the boy be the one to find someone else to "off" or let him be the one who waits. Also, I don't think telling people who live there that they ought to be the ones who wait because they can go back any old time is justified. People who live in Thailand don't necessarily go to the bars every night. I certainly don't. I've got a lot more things to do than be in the bars every night, as if that is the only thing to do at night. As a matter of fact, people here on a holiday are likely to be in the bars much more often than permanent residents. In any case, I certainly would not want to be placed in a position in which I should give "right of way" to someone here on a holiday just because I live here. People who live here should be penalized for living here? I don't think so. -
The following appears in the BANGKOK POST: _____ Taxis Stage Anti-Police Protest About 2,500 taxi drivers protested against Rachathewa police at Suvarnabhumi Airport yesterday for cracking down on taxi drivers not running their meters and charging passengers flat rates. The protest started around 5.30pm after one taxi driver was given a ticket by police for not using the meter while bringing passengers from Pattaya to the airport in Samut Prakan's Bang Phli district. Thongchai Thongvorn, 48, a taxi driver, said the protest was being staged to demand justice from police. The protest started inside the airport and then expanded all the way to the road outside the airport as the number of protesters steadily grew. Suvarnabhumi Airport director Somchai Sawasdeephon said the protest was not only causing traffic problems but also inconveniencing passengers who could not find any taxis to take them to town. Taxis taking passengers to and from the new airport are required to use the meter with an additional charge of 50 baht per trip. But many taxis violate the rule by demanding a flat rate from passengers. The rally prompted the airport authorities to bring both sides into a meeting to help end the protest. The drivers want police to stop ticketing them, which the police was still refusing to do at press time. ______________ And this, from THE NATION: ______________ Hundreds of Cabbies Protest at Suvarnabhumi Airport Hundreds of cabbies blocked the taxi terminal at Suvarnabhumi Airport last night in protest at a police arrest and ticketing of a driver. As many as 300 police were deployed to the protest. The arrested driver had failed to turn on his meter when ferrying a passenger to the airport from Chon Buri province. One of the protesting drivers said the blockade demanded justice for the arrested driver. He said taxis travelling interprovincial routes did not have to use meters. The protest organiser, who asked to not be identified, alleged staff at a company that operated an Airports of Thailand taxi concession were corrupt. They allowed "ghost taxis" to freely pick up passengers at the airport while those who paid Bt50 to enter the airport had to wait "hours" to collect a fare. Staff received Bt20 kickbacks from each unauthorised taxi. Hundreds of taxis blocked entrances and exits to the commuter area while others blockaded the Thai Airways catering building, causing traffic congestion in the airport compound.
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For those who never knew David-in-Pattaya or would like to remember him, here's a photo that I made in June, 2000. Some of you may remember my "Day Trippin'" articles. When I made the trip to Chantaburi, David went with me. We stopped for lunch at a wonderful restaurant, in the middle of nowhere, called Classic Forest. Some of you may have been there. We happened upon it by sheer accident and it was the very day it first opened. That is where this photo was taken. This is the way I like to remember David. He left us much too soon.
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Wherever you go, the 'festivities' begin throughout Thailand on Friday, April 13. In Pattaya, the main day for those who dread it will be Thursday, April 19 in Pattaya. Actually, it has been my experience that most of the Thais are very polite about it, with the exception of the 'big day.' It's usually drunken "farang" who are the majority out there splashing people on the other days, at least in Pattaya. Last year, people trying to get to the beach on a baht bus or motorcycle taxi were plagued by the "farang" splashers. I remember one incident in which a "farang" wound up arrested because he had actually filled his squirt gun with some sort of caustic substance and was getting his jollies by injuring people. I also personally witnessed a terrible incident on Sukhumvit Highway. It was a day or two before the main festivities, but there were pockets of revelers along the highway. I was driving in the right lane and a bus was in the left lane. All the vehicles were traveling at fairly high speed. Someone on a motorcycle suddenly came out of a side street onto the highway, directly into the path of the bus. There was no way the bus could possibly stop. The bus collided into the motorcycle. I don't think the motorcycle driver even looked before pulling out onto the highway, which comes as no great shock. He must have been dead before he even hit the ground. Anyway, I plan to be right here in Pattaya for the holiday. I don't mind being splashed by groups of Thais, but when it is groups of "farang" without any Thais participating, I do resent that. They're not celebrating the holiday. They're just out there capitalizing on an excuse to get drunk and cause problems for everybody else. However, for the most part I do greatly enjoy the holiday and I plan to be right here in Pattaya when it all happens.
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Me too. I have been in Thailand for several Songkrans and have thoroughly enjoyed it. Of course, it does help very much having a car. Other than the one day that is the main day for the holiday, I've never had any trouble going from place to place. The traffic is no better or worse than any other day. On the day of the main holiday, that's when there's no way, car or no car, to avoid getting soaked unless you remain in your hotel room for the entire day. Some people see it as a miserable experience. Not me. I'm right out there in the thick of it. I have a lot of fun and I love watching all the Thais having so much fun. Also, watching hundreds and hundreds of shirtless boys getting soaked is not my idea of a miserable experience.
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The file I attached may help you figure it out and narrow it down a little further. On Soi Buakhao, as far as I know, that's the only corner like that. There was no food. It's a bar, not a restaurant. Fun things? That depends on what you mean. The boys started off dancing in cut-offs and then stripped down to bikini briefs. To me, that was a fun thing. The show might also be a fun thing, but we didn't stay to see the show. Would I go again? Sorry, but I wouldn't even think about answering that. I'd rather see people go and decide that for themselves, without any influence from my personal opinion. As for the ambiance, it reminded me of Wild West Boys.
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There have been some postings lately about the Cartier Club, Pattaya's newest gay go-go bar. This evening some friends and I went to have a look. I spoke with the owner. He says he has been open about a month. His is in kind of an off-the-beaten-path location. To get there from South Road (Pattaya Tai) you go to Soi Buakhao, turn left, and follow the road around until you get to Soi Lengkee-1. If you're not sure where that is, on the right side you'll see a 7-Eleven on one side of the street and a Family Mart on the other. That's the Soi. Turn right. Some of you may be familiar with the Opey de Place hotel. Cartier is almost directly across the street from Opey de Place. If you download the file below, I included the business card and location instructions. I got a good laugh from the business card. It says, "Take Home Delivery - 24 Hours." The owner told me it means exactly what it says. If there is a boy you like, all you have to do is give him a call and he'll send the boy to wherever you are. We arrived about 8:30 PM. There were seven boys dancing while we were there. All of them were of obvious legal age. They were actually dancing too, which I thought was refreshing. It wasn't the usual half-hearted 'one-knee shuffle.' Three boys were dancing on the center stage and four were dancing on the balcony upstairs. Every few minutes a boy slides down a pole from the upper level and replaces a boy on the stage, who now goes up to the balcony. There is a nightly show at 10:00 PM, although we did not stay for the show. Drinks are 150 baht. The "off" fee is 300 baht. Give Cartier a try when in Pattaya.
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The weather in Thailand is very hard to predict. Because of Thailand's proximity to the equator the temperatures from about Phitsanulok on down are fairly consistent year-round. March and April may be quite pleasant or may be quite hot. You won't know that until you're here. So, I'd say to pack your bags and come to Thailand.
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I went to the Amor. Several close friends were at my table, along with our boyfriends. We had a wonderful time and, as always, Richard Burk presented an absolutely delicious dinner, along with outstanding service. Several well-known people were there. Hugh Millar, of the Symphony Brasserie; Chris, of Niddy's Nook; Phil, of Sticky Rice, and many other familiar faces and friends. That was the 7:00 seating. I ran into Jim, from Jim Jimmy James as we were leaving. He was on his way in to the 9:30 seating. Every time I go to Richard's Thanksgiving dinner I always say, and mean, that his is better than anything I ever had in the USA, and believe me, I've been to excellent ones. If you missed out on it, Richard will be serving the same dinner for a few days until he runs out. I enjoyed it so much I'm thinking of going back for another one! Don't forget about Christmas and New Year's Eve. Richard has marvelous menus for those holidays too. Book NOW, if you want to go. Last night all the tables were full and it will probably be that way on the next two holidays as well. Congratulations, Richard, for giving us a fabulous Thanksgiving. If you would like to see the Christmas and New Year's Eve menus, visit the Amor Restaurant web site at http://www.amorrestaurant.com .
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Keeing in Touch with your BF when out of Thailand
Gaybutton replied to TotallyOz's topic in Gay Thailand
Well, I'm full of something, anyway . . . . -
The following appears in the BANGKOK POST: _____ China's "Pornographic Summer" Falls Beijing (dpa) - A court has sentenced the operator of China's largest pornographic website to life in prison, state media said Thursday. Chen Hui's website had more than 600,000 registered users in China and contained 9 million pornographic images when it was closed down in October last year, the official Xinhua News Agency quoted prosecutors as saying. The Intermediate People's Court in the northern city of Taiyuan sentenced Chen Wednesday and jailed eight other organizers for terms of 13 months to 10 years. Chen, 28, started the Qingse Liuyuetian, or Pornographic Summer, website in 2004 and later opened three more pornographic websites, the agency said. Taiyuan police began investigating after a member of the public complained that a local hospital website had changed into the homepage of a pornographic website. Police in Taiyuan and six other areas of China arrested Chen and the eight others over the following three months. Chen regularly changed the web site's domain name and used overseas-based servers, the agency quoted police as saying. The police said it was difficult to estimate the profits of the defendants because much of their income was placed in foreign bank accounts. They found about 200,000 yuan ($25,000) in the Chinese bank accounts of the nine suspects.
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BANGKOK, Nov 23 (TNA) Bank of Thailand
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I agree. While few bars will try to make a boy go "off" against his will, they rarely need to. Most boys will go "off" with a customer, even if they have no intention of a sexual encounter, because they make more money from bar bonuses that way. Many bars give the boys a bonus if they have been taken "off" enough times during a month. In those bars, what is likely to happen is the boy will go "off" and then come up with some excuse after he has been taken "off," but before arriving at the "farang's" hotel. He may not get a tip from the "farang," but he does get credited with the "off." The usual exception to that is when the boy believes someone else will "off" him that evening, although I have seen boys refuse an "off" when they know the customer is a cheapskate tipper or is abusive in some other way.
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Keeing in Touch with your BF when out of Thailand
Gaybutton replied to TotallyOz's topic in Gay Thailand
You might be surprised about that. Most of the boys I know are familiar not only with MSN, but also Hotmail, chats, etc. -
Keeing in Touch with your BF when out of Thailand
Gaybutton replied to TotallyOz's topic in Gay Thailand
Well, what language were you speaking when you were together? Swahili? -
Common Courtesy eludes impatient Farang in Go-go-Bar
Gaybutton replied to ChrisUK's topic in Gay Thailand
You still twist around what I've said. I don't think I've said one word about insisting that a boy stay with you. My objection is the people who do the usurping, as you put it. I also don't think I ever said anything about 'the course of an evening.' I don't know where to draw the line, but if a customer has called a boy over, bought a drink for him, and continues to buy drinks for him, then yes, I think he has every right in the world to expect the boy to sit with him at least until he finishes his drink without somebody taking him "off" in the midst of it. I'm glad you didn't mind being "usurped," and I'm sure others also wouldn't mind, but there are others who would be quite upset about it and I think rightly so. On the other hand, quite often a mama-san comes over and asks if you intend to take the boy "off." If you say that you do not intend to take him "off" then yes, I don't see any reason to object if someone else wants to take him "off." If you say you haven't decided yet, but you are still paying for drinks for the boy, then I see plenty of reason to object. Either way, there's a big difference between a mama-san checking to see whether the boy will still be available that night and another customer coming in and trying to take that same boy. I would have no problem at all if the second customer came over and politely asked if I am going to take the boy "off" and explain that if I am not, then he would like to. That puts the ball in my court. It gives me the choice, assuming I do not wish to take him "off" or if I have not yet decided, of saying that I'm not going to take him "off," but I'd like to finish my drink with him, or saying sure, if you want to take him "off" I have no objection, or some other polite answer. But if someone is trying to place me in a position in which I am suddenly forced to make a decision, that would not sit well with me at all.