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I'm slightly confused with your post. If I understand correctly, a restaurant will open at the Googie's location, but Googie himself will not have anything to do with it. Is that correct?

Now that's a good idea! After all, they shit on everybody else. Wouldn't it be great if about 1000 people got together, went to one of those lobbies, and they all drop their pants, take a community dump, and then leave? Fair is fair.

Don't laugh. I've witnessed that too. Probably the most blatant example is this grotesque farang who shows up in Pattaya every once in a while, looking like something right out of Charles Dickens, and also looking like 80 years old is a memory. This "gentleman" thinks nothing of pulling down boys' underwear and masturbating and sucking them right in front of anyone who happens to be in the bar. He throws his head back and roars with delight. The boys look mortified, but they stand for it in hopes of a tip. Whenever I see this guy, I'm quickly out the door!

In my opinion, a law is meaningless unless it is enforced. I don't see hypocrisy when it comes to a comparison of prostitution and smoking issues. Prostitution is between two consenting adults. Smoking in an enclosed area is a little different because the smoke is being forced upon people who don't want anything to do with smoke. I really don't understand the problem. Am I the only smoker who doesn't have a problem about stepping outside when I wish to smoke? What's so terrible about stepping outside?

Can you shit in a public place? I used to have this great urge to go to the grocery store and shit right on the tomatoes. Oh well, another fantasy goes unfulfilled.

I believe that anyone who knows me would vouch for the fact that I'm very polite and accommodating when it comes to smoking. As a smoker, that's where I draw the line. I'm perfectly willing to step outside to smoke at bars, restaurants, and other enclosed venues. However, when I'm already outdoors I'm not so readily willing to be accommodating. At the beach, if my smoking is bothering you and you're sitting right next to me, I would probably put it out or move if I'm asked politely. However, if you're yards away from me, now you're going to be the one who has to move.

Oh come on! Do you truly believe that smokers don't already know? Do you truly believe you can advise them about anything they are not already aware of? It isn't that they don't know. It's that they have no regard for others.

I don't know of any that are specifically devoted to lady-boys, but many advertise themselves on the gay personals sites. And, of course, you are probably aware that there are several lady-boy bars in Pattaya.

Now you know why I moved away from Florida.

At the corner of Third Road and Pattaya Tai, Tony's (of Tony's Gym) bought out the entire block and built an open-air international food court, complete with small mom-and-pop restaurants (some of which are open 24/7), small shopping outlets, etc. It's a large complex. Most of the restaurants open during the evening, but some are open all day. I've passed by several times, but have not yet had a chance to stop in and check it out.

There is an international Wat in Bangkok, at which foreigners who are seriously interested are welcomed. English is spoken there. I would advise checking with this Wat before committing to this "Monk for a Month" program. That way you will have a basis for the best choice.

That's true, and most of it comes from drunken, low-life farang! If I recall, there was even an incident in 2007 when one idiot farang was actually caught spraying people with a caustic substance and he injured a young Thai boy's eyes with it. I don't know what ended up happening to him, but I hope the penalty was severe.

When people carry it to that extreme, that's when I stop giving a damn whether they like it or not, although I'll still put out the cigarette. Apparently not. Some people still wish to discuss it. That's their privilege.

There may be some who do enjoy that! Actually, I don't recommend doing something that could backfire (no pun intended) on you, but if you could get away with it, why not just shit in his face or drop a couple turdlets into his drink. I'm a smoker. I'm not proud of it, but there it is. When I am with people I do try to be polite about it. I always tell people to let me know if my smoke is blowing in their direction and I'll immediately put it out. If someone lets me know my smoking is bothering him I have no problem at all about putting it out or moving elsewhere. I dislike smokers who impose their smoke on others as much as non-smokers. I really don't understand why so many other smokers refuse to be polite about it, but many don't seem to care, and I think that's definitely a wrong attitude.

I'm with you on Songkran. So many farang hate it and many locals find somewhere else to be during that time, but I'll be right here and enjoying every bit of it. Having a car comes in very handy. I get to decide for myself whether I want to be splashed or not. But on the main day . . . all those boys in soaking wet t-shirts or, better still, shirtless . . . I love it! You can bet that I'll be out there for it. By the way, the main water splashing day in Pattaya in 2009 will be Sunday, April 19.

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You are arguing an issue that isn't going anywhere. The fact is a regulation exists that prohibits smoking in bars. The fact is that several bars are ignoring the regulation. The fact is that those who tried to get the authorities to do something about it have gotten nowhere. Ideas such as petitions, letters-to-the-editor, etc. have no practical value because it simply doesn't work. I see only one solution. Patronize venues that do not permit smoking and refuse to patronize venues that do.

That's when you should have left. For GT to have written a negative review, then I have a feeling the service he received was much worse than the post suggests. If I was subjected to bad service or poor treatment merely because my group consisted of Thais, I'd be damned if I would have eaten there. An expensive restaurant treating its customers like shit? That's not for me. Where do they get off giving "second class" treatment to their customers for any reason? Let them watch over 8000 baht worth of business walk right out the door . . . and let them know why. Since you stayed, I wish you refused to pay the service charge and tipped a total of 1 baht instead . . . and let them know why about that too. After all, if they are charging for service, then they at least ought to provide it.

Even if Pattayamale's suggestions about pressure, petitions and letters-to-the-editor would actually work, how long do you think it will be before enforcement goes by the wayside again? Jaded as this may seem, I believe there is only one way you'll ever see these regulations seriously enforced: Pay the powers-that-be more than the bars do.

How terrible! To think I might have to go through life without ever having visited Senegal is almost more than I can bear . . .

If you folks want to go into a pissing contest about this, fine with me. However, none of the arguments alter the fact that the bars are not supposed to allow smoking inside, period. When this law went into effect all the non-smokers were delighted. At that time I predicted this regulation would last about as long as most of the others. Actually, I'm surprised it lasted as long as it did. Here we are, a few months later, and apparently the regulation is not going to be enforced. I doubt that phone calls, petitions, or anything else will change a thing if the bars won't voluntarily comply. Unfortunately, the only thing I believe you can really do about it is to patronize the bars that comply with the regulations to the exclusion of the ones that don't.

The fact that two of us posted different threads about the same subject reminds me of a line I liked in an old John Wayne-Kirk Douglas movie, "The War Wagon." As the two are exiting a saloon and are walking toward the livery stable, two bad guys try to ambush them. Of course, they both draw and "drop" the two bad guys at the same instant. Kirk Douglas looks at John Wayne and says, "Mine hit the ground first." John Wayne replies, "Mine was taller."

Just for the record, this morning a friend and I were going to meet at Continental Bakery, Jomtien, at 10:00am. It was so packed we literally couldn't get in. Every table was full. We went to Linda's instead. Linda's also serves a fine breakfast.