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Ach soooooooooooooo! (Sefton, "Stalag 17") Now that makes some sense.

The information I have as of Monday noon is that in Sunee Plaza the open-air beer bars will be open, but the go-go bars will be closed. I have not heard anything at all about the Pattayaland-Boyztown bars.

Why not? Models and celebrities like to go out too. I would guess most of those models were paid, probably peanuts, to do those photo shoots, and were probably damned glad to get it. It wouldn't surprise me at all to find many of them willing and delighted if a foreigner with money in his pockets comes along and shows an interest in them. Only yesterday afternoon a close farang friend of mine and his Thai boyfriend were over at my house. While we were standing outside, a car pulled up to the house two doors down. The Thai boy's jaw dropped and he got all excited when he saw who got out of the car. It was some Thai "superstar," who I've never heard of, but apparently is quite famous in Thailand. He and his girlfriend (or maybe she's his wife) have lived in that house for about four years now. They are very nice, quiet people. Until yesterday, I had no idea that he is so well known in Thailand. It just goes to show that these types of people don't necessarily live in an Asian version of Beverly Hills and keep themselves hidden from public view.

Is their language similar enough to Thai that they might understand if spoken to in Thai?

Are you serious? I'll start with the fact that hotel staff are native to the country, speak and read the language, grew up with ID cards, are far more used to the tricks than a foreigner on a one or two week holiday, probably haven't been drinking that night, are not looking forward to sex with the boy, and are looking at these ID cards, probably several of them, every day. If your hotel desk clerk tells you the ID card is either fake or doesn't belong to the boy, are you really going to stand there and tell him he's wrong and try to take the boy to your room anyway? You're right in that the responsibility is ultimately yours. So, if there is any doubt in your mind or any doubt in the desk clerk's mind, then very simple: Don't take the boy to your room.

No. Of course. When you have something that works, there's always someone who comes along to tell you that it doesn't work. What I use, as I said, works quite well for me. I'll still get bites every so often, but without using it I'd get a hell of a lot more bites. What reason would any of us have to recommend something if it doesn't work, at least for us? If you know of something better than the suggestions we've written, or if you have a better idea, I'm all ears.

As much as I enjoy contacting you, right now I have to go PP . . .

You're absolutely right, but that's a totally different point. The point at hand is, at least my point is, that I don't see how one can rely on the idea that a Thai boy who has been involved with porn is necessarily 18+ years old and I'm trying to understand why Astrrro believes that you can (for off purposes).

I'm well aware of that. However Astrrro seems to think that a boy who has done a porn shoot is likely to be 18+ years old. I don't see the logic behind that. Meanwhile, why are you talking about American policy? What does that have to do with the age of a Thai boy who has done a porn shoot? Maybe I'm wrong, but I didn't think Thai boys, living in Thailand, who do porn shoots in Thailand are subject to American policies and laws.

Doesn't it also keep a record of which posts you have read? I thought that's how the "show unread posts since last visit" function works.

Regarding bar closings, the latest word I have is that the bars have to wait until about midnight tonight to be informed by the police as to whether they can open tomorrow (Monday) or not.

I remember that movie too. It was entitled "Them". I found the following synopsis on the Internet: _____ Police Sgt. Ben Peterson finds a little girl wandering aimlessly in the New Mexico desert and they trace her to the family's camping trailer a few miles away. There is no sign of her parents and the trailer itself has been badly damaged. Soon after, Peterson's partner and the owner of a general store are also killed. They're not sure what they have on their hands but are soon joined by FBI Agent Robert Graham and two doctors from the Department of Agriculture, Harold Medford and his daughter Pat. They discover that there is a nest of giant mutated ants resulting from the atomic tests in the desert 10 years before. They don't quite manage to kill all of them however and the ants migrate to Los Angeles and establish a nest in the vast subterranean sewer system.

That's you. That doesn't mean others, including me, necessarily think the same way you do. Certainly the 'supply' is a factor, an important factor, but it's not the only factor. I have many reasons why I choose Thailand to be where I want to live. I know you're kidding, but just in case you're not, what you think does not make it a fact. There is only one person who knows my personal motivations for being here . . . me.

It works beautifully for me. Once, on a trip to an area where mosquitoes were rampant I brought along the Skin-So-Soft. I was the only one not getting bitten. I was there for three days. I literally had people lining up to use it . . . each night. People who used it were not getting bitten. People using anything else were getting bitten. Scientific or not, it sure works for me. I suppose, if it doesn't work for you, then individual body chemistry may have something to do with it. But I swear by it.

Thai pornographers and Thai boys doing photo shoots for them would concern themselves about American law and American authorities? I don't understand your reasoning. To me that's the same as saying people ought to avoid doing something in Thailand because it's against the law in Bangladesh. I'm sorry if I'm missing something, but you're not making any sense to me on this one.

I don't understand. How can the fact that a boy has done a professional porno shoot guarantee that he is 18+ ?

Here's a photo of the contraption I'm talking about in my post above. It lasts about three weeks before the liquid is used up. You can buy replacement liquid at most stores such as Big-C, Lotus, etc.

That's precisely the part that is not obvious. That's the problem. Quite often the photo is several years old, the hair style is different, etc. It can be very difficult to tell whether the photo on the ID card is actually the boy you wish to take off or not.

I saw a post on another board that Krazy Dragon will be closed. I don't have any idea how many bars will close. Obviously, if they are ordered to close then they will all be closed, but I have a feeling that you'll just have to go to the bars and see, if you cant handle a one-night closing of the bars. If you're in Pattaya as a holiday maker, then look at the bright side. You'll lose the bars only for one night. Last year there were times when the bars were closed for several days in a row. Don't forget, maybe the bars will be closed and maybe they won't, but if they are there will still be plenty of boys who will be out there looking for farang. This might be a good time to experiment around and try just walking around the bar scene area, the shopping malls, etc. You can also get online and try personals sites such as Gay Romeo. I guarantee you'll find plenty of willing boys. It might be a good idea to make "arrangements" for tomorrow (Monday) today, if you are in the bars tonight. Also, if you are a drinker, then you better stock up on your booze supply today as well. Liquor will not be sold tomorrow, at least legally. I do know that several mom-and-pop shops often sell liquor anyway and even some 7-Elevens do as well. I don't know of any speakeasies in Pattaya . . .

I already tried it. Between the geritol and Miracle Gro, it did wonders for making my girth grow, but that's about it . . .

For whatever reason, mosquitoes this year have been much more of a problem than in past years and I have been hearing a lot of complaints. I get plenty of them at my place too. They seem to start coming out primarily at dusk, although there are some during the day as well. Nothing seems to work very well at preventing them from getting in. Even people with window screens are getting them. They manage to somehow get in no matter what you do. So, the thing to do is to try to deal with them once they're in. Spray-on insect repellents such as Off don't seem to work for me, but there are a few things that work just fine. If you are having problems, you might want to try some of these things: 1. Avon Skin-So-Soft bath oil. That's the best of all. I think Avon makes a mistake by selling it as a bath oil. It's the best insect repellent I've ever used. Not only that, but you don't need much, it's good for your skin, and has a pleasant fragrance. Use it full strength. 2. I don't know what you call these things, but the local stores sell a little contraption that plugs into your wall socket. It comes with a small bowl that contains some sort of a fluid, supposedly harmless to humans, that really works. There are several brands. You just plug it in, turn it on, and 5 minutes later there are no mosquitoes to be seen. One or two of them in each room really does the trick, at least for me. 3. Lemon grass. You can find it easily in any one of the Thai open air fruit and vegetable markets. It's a very popular ingredient for Thai cooking. It's a long, rigid grass that has a fragrance very similar to lemons, hence the name. You get a bunch of it, twist it a little bit to help release the fumes, and place it somewhere in your room. Mosquitoes are repelled by it. 4. Many stores sell a contraption that looks very much like a badminton racket. They work with electricity. Some are battery operated and some have a plug-in wall recharger. They're fun to use. You just swing the thing at the mosquitoes and zap! You not only get to hear the mosquito get zapped, but you get a tiny fireworks display as well. Keep one handy in case all else fails. Maybe some of you have additional suggestions.

Not Geezer. If I know him, before that night was over he definitely found someone and the boy got off and so did Geezer.

We're down to 3 weeks to go in the contest, here is where you stand as of February 7. The following people have exceeded the 150 eligible post minimum and have their names in "the hat:" KhorTose - 154 posts Shebavon - 167 posts Steve1903 - 176 posts GaySacGuy - 194 posts Astrrro - 218 posts Laurence - 276 posts Slackersam - 281 posts Pattayamale - 299 posts fountainhall - 318 posts lvdkeyes - 419 posts MonkeySee - 726 posts

The farang isn't taking anything. The hotel is. What gives them the right? In my opinion the same thing that gives the boy the right to use someone else's ID card in order to cheat a farang into believing he is 18 when he is actually under-age, placing the farang in jeopardy of being arrested. Yes, if a hotel took my passport I'd be furious too, but if I could end up going to jail because of someone trying to cheat, I be a little more furious. If a boy is using an ID card that isn't his own, then the card isn't his in the first place. I don't know if hotels actually keep the ID card or not when it's perfectly obvious to the desk clerk that it isn't his, but personally I hope that's exactly what they do. Let the boy argue about it with the clerk. I doubt that hotels actually hold the ID card when a boy is trying to cheat, but if they don't I wish they would. If a boy knows that would happen, maybe he'd be a little less likely to try cheating. I'd much rather have a boy angry with me than for me to possibly end up arrested. One of my favorite stories comes from Jim Lumsden, of Boyz Boyz Boyz and the Ambiance. One of his desk clerks had either had his wallet stolen or had lost it (I can't remember which). His ID card was in the wallet. A few days later a farang staying at the Ambiance came in with a bar boy he had taken off. It is the policy at the Ambiance for the desk clerk to check ID cards of any boy entering the hotel, no matter what his age appears to be. The desk clerk was immediately suspicious that the boy was under age. When he checked the ID card the boy was carrying it turned out to be his own missing ID card! Whoops! Another favorite of mine happened to Geezer. I was with him for this one. We were in a bar and there was a boy Geezer liked and wanted to take off. Geezer is smart enough to be particularly careful about checking ID cards. He asked the boy to show him his ID card. The boy quickly disappeared and returned with an ID card and proudly placed it in Geezer's hand. Geezer took a look at it and was a little suspicious. He asked the boy, "When is your birthday?" The boy understood the question perfectly, but his answer was, "I don't know." End of the boy getting an off that night . . .

These days, paraphrasing the two happiest days in a boat owner's life seems to apply: The two happiest days in a marriage are the day you get married and the day you get divorced.