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I'll have to give them a try. It will be interesting to see how their bacon compares to Mr. Moo.

I'd like to also use this thread for requests for information. I have one. I'm looking for a really good quality computer chair. Everywhere I've looked so far either sells garbage or chairs at prices I can't afford. If someone knows of a good place to look, I would appreciate it. What I don't want is a chair upholstered in Naugahyde. I hate Naugahyde. I stick to it as if someone had poured Super Glue all over it. I prefer a cloth upholstery.

For those of you looking for plants, flowers, and tropical fish, along with all kinds of equipment and supplies, in Pattaya every Saturday and Sunday that big open field right next to the McDonald's-Mini Siam on Sukhumvit becomes a huge open air market devoted to only those kinds of products. You'll find everything from an incredible variety of orchids to fruit trees, along with plenty of tropical fish and supplies, all at prices much lower than you'll find elsewhere. In Bangkok many people think the famous Chatuchak market is solely a weekend market. Not so. If you are interested in plants, go on a Wednesday. That's the day they bring in all the plants. You can easily spend the entire day there and still not see them all. It's an incredible variety, again at prices lower than you'll find elsewhere. If you are not getting there in your own vehicle I like to get there on the Metro. Get off at the Kamphaeng Phet stop. That puts you right inside the Chatuchak market. All the tropical fish shops are open on Wednesdays too.

Hmmmmmmm, that all depends on how you look at it. I've discovered that a great many young gentlemen around here have had their meat smoked, often well smoked, quite a number of times . . .

Ok, that's a good idea. I hope our friends don't let their posts get out of hand. Some have found out the hard way that I'm very good at locking threads and putting people on moderated mode if the need arises.

In the Thai language "moo" means pork. On the access road at the Big-C at the junction of Pattaya Tai and Sukhumvit there is a row of shop houses. One of them, between the parking lot entrance and Sukhumvit is Mr. Moo. I've passed by many times, but yesterday I stopped in to see what they carry. He has quite a good selection of pork products, including several different sausages, one of which is labeled "American Sausage," something difficult to find in Pattaya at reasonable prices. He also has a variety of different types of bacon, British style meat pies, etc. His prices are quite reasonable and apparently he does the curing and packaging himself. I decided to try some American style "streaky" bacon. A 255 gram package for 67 baht seemed reasonable enough to me. This morning I made my own breakfast at home and tried the bacon. I was very pleasantly surprised. I thought it was some of the best bacon I've ever had, certainly much better than any of the commercially packaged bacon I've tried in Pattaya. It crisps up very well and has an excellent delicate flavor and texture. For those of you who do your own cooking, you might want to stop in, see what they have and perhaps give some of their products a try. From now on, when I want those kinds of products, that's where I'm going to do my buying.

I've got a better idea. Wrong board for this kind of a cat fight. Thread locked! If GT wants to reopen it, that's his prerogative.

If that is what he was trying to do, yes it did. I don't see any need for people to be put off by people who don't know what they're talking about and probably have never even been over here themselves. You have been over here on "The Dark Side" with me. At any time did you feel unsafe? Did you observe any of the dangers HeyGay says are so rampant over here? Was there any problem crossing Sukhumvit? People who write such posts do a disservice to an up-and-coming community and also do a disservice to themselves by diminishing their own credibility.

Nothing to be sorry about. It wouldn't be the first time. When I was a kid I had an imaginary friend. He didn't like me. I took off my clothes and that killed him. The perfect crime . . . "I don't get no respect at all. I met the Surgeon General. He offered me a cigarette!" - Rodney Dangerfield

I'm not trying to kid anybody. I already said there are plenty of accidents on Sukhumvit. But there have been none at the major intersections where people cross Sukhumvit going to or coming from "The Dark Side." And your statement about traffic flying by at 100++KmPH is also nonsense. I drive on Sukhumvit every day. First, there's usually so much traffic that going at that speed is an impossibility in the first place. Second, even when traffic flows smoothly, it is rare to see anyone exceeding 60 to 80KmPH, the normal speed limit for Sukhumvit. I'm right out there with that traffic every day, usually several times every day. Are you? Before you start needlessly frightening people, try knowing what you're talking about. Crossing Sukhumvit is no less safe than crossing any other Pattaya intersections. And if you come over to "The Dark Side" you're not going to be confronted by street gangs. You're not going to be attacked by rabid dogs or any other dogs. If you're on a motorcycle you're not going to be knocked to the ground by ropes. All of that is absolutely ridiculous. So, stay on the west side of Sukhumvit. Don't come over to "The Dark Side." Don't try the Continental Bakery or Papa David's over here. Don't try restaurants out here such as Sure Park, Ann's Garden, Ticino's, Swiss Paradise, Magnolia's, Fisherman's, Mannekin Pis, Khun John's, Scott's Corner, Mulligan's, Il Panettiere, Cafe Uno, or any of the others. Stay on the west side of Sukhumvit . . . where you'll be safe.

I know a good place for you to hide your money . . . my bank account.

Also, that reference to the rope across the road is quite true. It happened once, and only once. It was a small group of teens who thought they had come up with a clever way of knocking a motorcycle driver off the bike and then robbing him. They were caught almost immediately and there has never been a similar incident before or since. Also, while there are street dogs over here, just as everywhere else in Pattaya, nearly all of them are quite tame and spend their time either sleeping, searching and begging for food, and howling in the middle of the night. I know of no dog attacks over here and I also know of no rabies cases. Not one. So, HeyGay, if you really want to try to portray "The Dark Side" as some sort of sinister place to be, back up what you say with credible evidence. You won't be able to because there is none. I live over here. I'm happy to live over here and quite frankly I'd rather be here than most other locations in Pattaya. And with all the new building and construction, new businesses, new residential neighborhoods, etc, I'm by no means alone in that. I'll help you out a little bit. You want to know what kind of trouble there is on "The Dark Side"? Street gangs. The police have had quite a bit of trouble with street gangs. Nearly all their activity takes place in the wee hours and they usually prey on each other. I've had my house since 1998. In all that time I have yet to ever actually see any of these gangs, but they're here.

That's it then. From now on I'll go naked.

That's a ridiculous, misleading, and ignorant statement. There are traffic signals at each major intersection and there have been no accidents at any of them for over two years. Do you think you can say the same about the Third Road intersections? There are plenty of accidents on Sukhumvit itself, usually caused by drunk drivers, but there are many more accidents within Pattaya than on both Sukhumvit and "The Dark Side" combined. Do you have some reason why you are trying to frighten people away from exploring "The Dark Side"? I live over here and I know what I'm talking about.

Did you know there is both a Papa David's and a Continental Bakery on "The Dark Side?" If anyone besides me lives out here, on the other side of Sukhumvit, the Papa David's is on Soi Khaotolo, about 100 yards east of the railroad tracks. The Continental Bakery is on Soi Khaonoi, near the top of the hill. If you are coming from Sukhumvit, both restaurants are on the right. Both restaurants serve the same breakfasts, lunches, and dinners that you'll find in Jomtien. The Continental Bakery also carries the same breads and desserts as their counterpart in Jomtien. Papa David's has a small selection of breads too. Apparently "The Dark Side" is quite up-and coming. A hell of a lot of people are moving out here and new construction is popping up just about everywhere. A lot of new, excellent restaurants are either already established here or have recently opened, with more on the way. If you want to read about what's available out here on "The Dark Side" have a look at the following link (the most recent posts are the last posts): http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Dark-Side-t172786.html

Sorry, but whatever kills me, that won't be it. When my time comes I wouldn't mind going out the way Nelson Rockefeller did, gay style of course. If you gotta go, that's the way to do it. Regarding suicide, people might as well forget about getting me to feel sympathy. The only exception to that for me would be a person dying a long, slow, lingering, painful death. Then I would be sympathetic. But if anyone is looking for me to hop on the sympathy bandwagon for someone who kills himself because of financial problems, you're definitely barking up the wrong tree. For all I know the person could be more saintly than Mother Theresa, but I just can't conjure up any sympathy for that, especially if the person did not ask for help. I'm not saying I'm right, but I am saying that's the way I look at it. I've helped people when they needed it and people helped me when I needed it. To me, that's the way it's supposed to be.

I disagree. I've never met the man. While I concede that my own post was callous, the article said he died under bizarre circumstances in a manner very similar to David Carradine. Based on the posts that appear here, chances are that he wasn't murdered and chances are that he did not intentionally commit suicide. I also used the word "if." And "if" he died because of auto eroticism, I don't think it's fair to expect a whole lot of sympathy from people who never even heard of him just because a few people on this board knew him. If I die that way, I would expect people here to have a good laugh over it, not start shedding tears for me and lecturing others about why they should be sympathetic. I see nothing wrong with fountainhalls's post, Bob's post, or my own. However, in deference to those who are upset, I won't write any further posts about the incident.

That's strange. Have you tried using a proxy server? Meanwhile, this board belongs to GT, not me, then under the circumstances if it's ok with GT then it's ok with me.

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I'll add a peeve of my own. It's the people who get into an express lane at a grocery store, and most are clearly marked "10 items or less," and they have many more than 10 items. I also get annoyed at cashiers who let them get away with it. Even worse, most of these express lanes are also clearly marked "cash only." Don't you love it when you get behind someone who has about 30 items, isn't carrying enough cash, and then whips out a debit card? I also enjoy it when things happen such as getting behind someone who forgot to get his onions weighed before going to the cashier's line. Now you have to wait about ten more minutes while the cashier flags down an attendant who is apparently clueless as to where to even get the items weighed for the customer, and then finally returns - often at a snail's pace. Nothing like having a nice leisurely stroll while keeping everyone else waiting.

Why not? There are many web sites that refer to Gay Bali. If you have a particular favorite, what's wrong with letting us know what it is?

I think the most reliable way is to send the information to yourself in an Email. That way, even if you lose everything you can still easily retrieve your information from your Email. Also, it doesn't hurt to put a copy of your passport and other ID information on an Email to yourself as well. If you are ever unfortunate enough to lose your passport, the more ID evidence you can give to the embassy, the easier it is to get a new passport. If you have copies on your Email, all you need to retrieve the copies is an Internet shop and a printer.

The following appears in the PATTAYA DAILY NEWS: _____ Bangkok Bank Launches New

If it was, it worked great, didn't it?

I have exactly the opposite problem. I don't usually encounter people who block the top of the escalator. But I all too frequently have people brush past me when the escalator isn't moving fast enough for them. I know it must be very urgent for them to save the ten or fifteen seconds they save by brushing past people and I don't have much of a problem with that since I try to stand to one side in anticipation of these people. But I have a big problem when they physically push me aside in their eagerness to get to the top a few seconds before everybody else.