Jasper

You can now translate Thai language using Google Translate’s Camera function. 1. Open Google Translate and tap camera 2. Take a photo of the Thai text you want to translate 3. Use your finger to highlight the Thai text

Really? sgladWe all know every models aren’t as successful as BOY-Pakorn ChatBorirak,บอย-ปกรณ์. I find your above comment unnecessarily unkind to spoon. There was an aspiring actor who used to work at Twilight massage shop and became “real” TV actor.

Why is this Sunny guy on handcuff? Interesting!

They are recruiting models guaranteed income of 30,000 B per month which means they are probably paying 1000 B per night just to turn up.

About the show boy dropping out of the show on short notice.I can only speak of the case of Jupiter but dropping out of the show on short notice is not a problem at all for the bar. Normally if the show is consist of 3 dancers, another 3 boys could easily substitute regular dancers. Jupiter show boys including mamasan have a dedicated group LINE and if the boy is with customer, has a hungover and cannot come into work they will LINE to let the group knows so DJ/show manager will prepare which show they going to do that evening. The only problem is compensation for the loss of show earnings. If you reserve him on LINE and don’t want to visit the bar, if he agrees you will not need to go to the bar. Some show boys want to appear on shows even you reserve him but some may agree to skip shows and the bar it’s up to your agreement with him. But if the show boy agrees not to go to the bar instead spend the evening with you, he expects compensated for the loss of show money otherwise it is not worthwhile to be offed if you only pay regular tip. Jupiter pay 200-250 per show and a show boy does 3-5 shows earning 600-1000 B per night so you need to pay up to 1000B on top of boy tip(2000+). And of course you pay off fee 400. So it could get pretty expensive if you want show boys to skip work. But then you don’t need to pay your drink & boy drink and tip to mamasan, waiter so probably works out the same money wise and you save time watching the same show repeatedly.

Managers reserve seat for regulars to earn tip from them.Also those regulars keep a bottle of whisky and tip waiters generously too. I cannot blame the practice but understand the resentment from non-regulars.

It’s safe to say they send out Line messages to every customers unless the customer was a bad experience but they do remember you.Go go boys are very good with faces even you don’t actually off them. Most boys would agree to meet you outside bars unless he has a day job or other commitments.You could arrange to meet him at your hotel before the bar opening, like 6 pm. Do they skip work? It’s up to the boy as they have to pay fine to the bar if they don’t turn up work. In Jupiter, boys pay 400 B to the bar for one day absence. It would be tricky if your boy is a popular show boy. If you want them to skip shows and spend the evening with him outside the bar, prepare to pay 1. Off fee to the bar (400-650) you can pay the fee to the boy and ask him to pay to the bar on your behalf 2. Usual tip to the boy 3. Show appearance money up to 1000 Baht. One Jupiter regular customer I know reserves his regular when he arrives for a month or two pay the whole off fee in advance whether he comes in to the bar or not. And remember if your boy is very popular, be prepared to get disappointed even you reserve him in advance on Line. A friend of mine is in love with Jupiter’s star and sometimes he gets beaten “Off Competition” lol

Wait a minute!You are a younger guy in 40’s, right? So you are familiar with Pattaya gay scene since you are teenager.

‘Nearly impossible’? Really? I have never felt that way about Jupiter. Probably Moonlight models are easily accessible because the bar is fairly new and hasn’t established yet there aren’t so many customers whereas Jupiter stars have many regular customers that visit them almost every month from HK, Taiwan and Japan.

Bravo! Trust Vinapu to act fast and decisively. Mr Fluke is the only guy that appeals to me in Moonlight. Can’t wait to read about him in your full trip report. I am glad you are having a great time in Bangkok after disappointing Pattaya. I heard that Pattaya police are closing Walking Street gogo bars this evening since today’s the late King’s Memorial Day.

Interesting. Maybe Chinese golden week (1/10-7/10) effect?

Type “ Wall Street Inn Bangkok” in google map. Although Google Street View is not updated to show G-Boys it’s only a small soi you cannot miss it. Somehow I cannot load photo.

Wow! Swiss waiters earn over $4,000 a month! I didn’t know that. I guess I was born in the wrong country. From BBC It is a dilemma most experienced travellers will have encountered at one time or another - whether to give a tip or not? And, if so, how much? It is a minefield where offence can easily - if inadvertently - be given, either by tipping in the first place, or by giving too large or small a gratuity. The topic has been taxing both main political parties in the UK this week, as they have chewed over laws forbidding bar and restaurants from keeping tips from staff. Not every country in the world takes the matter as seriously as the British, who are believed to have invented the custom in the 17th Century - originally as an aristocratic practice of giving small gifts to the so-called "inferior classes". Tipping, nonetheless, is a habit widely indulged around the world, although it is tangled up in a nation's culture and values. United States In countries like the United States, tips form a substantial part of workers' wages A common joke amongst Americans is that only a filing tax return is more confusing than tipping. Gratuities were imported into the country in the 19th Century, when wealthy Americans began travelling to Europe. The custom was originally frowned upon and critics considered it anti-democratic and accused tippers of creating a class of workers who “begged for favours”. Fast forward to the 21st Century and you will still find Americans debating the pros and cons. But tipping is now completely ingrained in the national psyche: economist Ofer Azar estimated in 2007 that the restaurant business alone saw $42bn (£32bn) given to service workers. In the US, the tips are an important complement to wages. China Tipping was frowned upon in China and it's still not widespread Like many Asian countries, China has a largely a no-tipping culture - for decades it was actually prohibited and considered a bribe. To this day, it remains relatively uncommon. At restaurants frequented by locals, customers do not leave gratuities. Exceptions are restaurants mainly catering to foreign visitors, and hotels with a similarly international clientele (even then it's only acceptable to tip baggage handlers). Another exception is to leave gratuities for tour guides and tour bus drivers. Japan Tipping a waiter can cause offence in Japan Japan’s intricate etiquette system encompasses gratuities. It is socially acceptable on occasions such as weddings, funerals, and special events, but on more common situations, it can actually make the receiver feel belittled, if not insulted. The philosophy is that good service should be expected in the first place. Even on occasions where tips are expected, it follows a protocol that includes handing the money in special envelopes as a sign of gratitude and respect. Hotel personnel, who are almost universally courteous and prompt, are trained to politely refuse tips France France was one of the first countries to adopt a service charge in restaurants In 1955, France passed a law requiring restaurants to add a service charge to bills - a practice that then became common around Europe and other parts of the world - as a way to improve wages for waiters and make them less reliant on tips. However, tipping remained customary, despite surveys showing that younger generations of French tend to be non-tippers: in 2014, 15% of French customers said they would “never tip”, a number twice as big as in the previous year. South Africa The Rainbow Nation features here for a specific service not usually covered in many other countries: car guarding. It’s an informal industry that has grown in proportion to South Africa’s unemployment rate - now 25% - and basically consists of individuals who help motorists by finding parking spots for drivers and watching their vehicles - according to official statistics, almost 140 vehicles were stolen every day in the country last year. Paying less than $1 for the service is not the problem here: the debate in South Africa is that the process is almost completely unregulated and has no guarantee that either party will keep their part of the bargain. Car guards have caused a debate in South Africa Switzerland People in Switzerland are often said to financially round up bills and to leave gratuities to hotel staff and workers such as hairdressers. However, the country has one of the highest minimum wages in the world: waiters, for instance, earn over $4,000 a month. Thus, they are not as dependent on tips as their American counterparts. India Many restaurants in India levy service charges on the bill, so it is considered OK not to leave a tip. Otherwise, the etiquette is to leave 15%-20%. It is not uncommon to find restaurants which display signs against tips. A 2015 survey revealed that Indians were amongst the highest tippers in Asia, behind only Bangladesh and Thailand. Singapore Singapore's authorities are not fond of tipping Although small handouts will not cause offence at hotels, restaurants and taxis, gratuities can be a thorny issue in Singapore. The government website states that “tipping is not a way of life” on the island. Egypt Egypt's reliance on the informal sector intensified the "baksheesh" culture Tipping is deeply ingrained in Egypt and a gratuity is known as baksheesh. Well-off Egyptians regularly tip all kind of service workers, from waiters to petrol pump attendants. The handouts are welcome in an economy with unemployment over 10% and in which the informal sector contributes to almost 40% of GDP. Iran The complex taroof ritual does not apply to tipping in Iran Visitors to Iran might come across the taroof ritual - the practice of deference in which payment is initially refused as a matter of politeness - it can happen even in cab rides, where the driver will initially refuse to accept payment. But it won't happen with a tip: gratuities for services are part of daily life. Russia During the Soviet Era, tipping was a no-no in Russia - it was considered a means of belittling the working class. But Russians do have a word for it - chayeviye ("for the tea"). Tipping made a comeback in the 2000s. Still, older people may find it offensive. Argentina Tipping a waiter after a good steak-Malbec combination won't lead to trouble in Argentina, although it is actually illegal under a 2004 labour law for the catering and hotel industries. Still, the handouts take place and can correspond to up to 40% of an Argentine waiter's income. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-45746752

Congratulations Vinapu! I believe you are the first forum member to off Moonlight model. I can’t wait to read about ‘Particulars’. Haha

Jupiter #61 Apparently he isn’t popular amongst farangs because of his tattoos.

Tam looks 100 times better in real life than photo. Last month, he came to Jupiter accompanying a customer. Jupiter boy #39 gave him the middle finger gesture jokingly and Tam laughed. He has a gorgeous smile.

That’s correct. I always check both green & orange’s rate at their headquarters in Ratchadamri opposite Central World and green is sometimes better. Also their headquarters give you a better rate than their booth in shopping malls.

X- MEN!!! I nearly died laughing

You are probably right.

ROTFL Dream Guy sounds like American gay porn. lol

Sun Massage

Unfortunately, he only made a guest appearance at Jupiter briefly like one month. Apparently he is based in Paris.

From Perth now.com.au THE man came to the Australian Embassy with a hat in hand asking for taxpayer support to pay for a lady of the night — fortunately, the request was declined. But it is just one of the many bizarre, and often serious requests our consular officials contend with every day. Maybe you heard the one about the woman who contacted the Australian embassy in Thailand asking “do you know where Marjorie is?” Or the family worried their Dad had gone missing but didn’t have a contact for him in Bangkok, and helpfully suggested officials look in “any sports bar showing AFL”. Perhaps the story about the chap asking them to ring him a taxi? Or the bloke wondering if they could they pop down to the optometrist to see if his glasses were ready? As First Secretary and Consul in the Australian Embassy in Thailand, Anita Downey has heard all these and many more. In a speech to an Australian Society of Travel Writers conference in Bangkok last month, Ms Downey had the audience roaring with laughter as she reflected on life in the consular corp. But it wasn’t just jokes as she outlined the value of travel insurance. At any one time, the embassy in Thailand is handling 110 consular cases — and the workload has been rising by about five per cent a year. Ms Downey noted the Federal Government’s smartraveller.gov.au website is a great resource and 400,000 people looked at the Thailand section last year. But, wanderlusters only spent an average of two minutes at a time on the site. “A lot of people don’t understand what we do,” Ms Downey said. “Recent questions include the email from a woman asking ‘can you check where Marjorie is’ — that was it, Marjorie. The woman was worried because she had not heard from her. “There was the prisoner who wanted Australian food because he didn’t like Thai food. “We had a guy the other day wanting us to call a taxi for him — he had lived in Thailand for six years. “One said ‘My hotel is noisy, can you please call them and complain’. “There was the gentleman who had ordered glasses online and they had not arrived so could we pop out to the glasses shop and see how that was going for him.” But for Ms Downey, there was one story that stood above the rest. “My personal favourite was a gentleman who came in to visit us and he had a lady friend with him and they had spent the previous night together but he had run out of money so could we pay her on his behalf? I’m sure as Australian taxpayers you will be pleased to learn the answer was ‘no’. He had to make his own arrangements.” Anecdotes aside, Ms Downey outlined the serious work consular officials do, and how Australians can save themselves heartache with a bit of common sense. As well as visiting the 16 Australian prisoners now in Thai jails, last year consular officials dealt with 200 hospitalisations, 74 missing persons cases, 100 arrests and 201 deaths. She stressed proper travel insurance — which covers pre-existing conditions and is not voided by alcohol, drugs, or risky behaviour such as riding a motorbike without a helmet — is essential. “We spend a lot of our time trying to help families, explaining to them they need to pay for hospital care if they don’t have travel insurance — and a lot of our clients have no money,” she said. “Our main clientele is the 65 to 75 year olds. A typical client in that category would be an Australian man who has come over here, found a friend, decided to stay, as it is obviously a lot lower cost to live here. “I’m sure it is a fantastic lifestyle except when you get sick. And don’t have insurance and don’t have money. “So you ring up the Australian Embassy expecting that we will pay for it and we don’t. We have never paid for someone’s hospital bill because can you imagine if we did it for one … “So we don’t pay hospital bills and that becomes very difficult, so then we talk to the families and see if they will pay.” Ms Downey said it is common to track down a family back in Australia to tell them their father is sick, only to be told the kids have not spoken to him in decades — so he is on his own. “If you can’t pay you get basic care — if you have travel insurance you’ll get a fantastic level of care. In the intensive care unit in some of these hospitals you are looking at close to $10,000 a night,” she said. Motorbike accidents where Australians ride without a licence and helmet are common, but this is a main reason — along with alcohol and drugs — travel insurance companies will not pay out on policies. “We had a guy in Nepal on a bike hit by car, but he had a helmet and luckily had travel insurance — he was medevaced in Nepal by helicopter which cost $US5000 ($7000), had massive injuries so was medevaced to Bangkok which cost $US60,000, he spent three weeks in ICU in one of Bangkok’s best hospitals which cost $US140,000 then was stable enough to be transferred to Australia which cost $US120,000,” Ms Downey said. “He is doing remarkably well but if he had not had travel insurance he would probably have stayed in hospital in Nepal. “Imagine getting a call to say your daughter, son, brother, parent has been in an accident and needs to be medevaced and taken to a really good hospital and it is going to cost $30,000 and you need to pay it in the next 24 hours. “If you don’t have insurance that’s what you are looking at — that’s reality.” Bottom line? As insurers like to say, if you can’t afford travel insurance you can’t afford to travel — but make sure it is the right insurance and you don’t make it void with risky behaviour. https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/sa/laughs-and-sadness-the-life-of-australian-consular-officials-in-thailand-ng-6b91eeadb51647064aa998e9c3b70625.amp?__

Terry, you took your decision to go bareback considering all the risks and options reading all the information available to you or consulting a doctor armed with Prep and other vaccinations and precautions, right? What about the boys??? Have you ever considered that you could put your uninformed sexual partner in risk? Or you thought it’s ok because you paid them generously. They’re probably young enough to be your grandson, uneducated, desperate for the rent money only to be lured into something they wouldn’t normally do. Your action clearly shows your lack of respect towards boys and inability to feel any responsibility whatsoever. I just hope you stick to Pattaya and stay away from Bangkok. lol Vessey I am too lazy to search for the source but if I remember correctly female sex workers HIV infection rate is something like 5% in Thailand whereas male sex workers are over 30%.

I have heard of a story about a professional dominatrix in her home country was looking for a submissive boy in Jupiter for spanking session. She failed to recruit anyone even offering 10,000 baht.