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Yes, just go and have a blast. You realize you're not cruising a college frat house - they work in a go-go or host bar. You will not, I assure you, surprise them in the least.

I actually think it would be harder for a gay guy to have sex with an old farang, as we gays tend to place a lot of emphasis on appearance, more so than straight guys imho. Looking at me would be a turn-off, I would think. I'm not being harsh on myself; I'm just facing facts. Bingo! I could not agree more. The gay boy being into men has a high bar to achieve satisfaction. I know it is counter-intuitive. But the straight boy having decided to perform certain acts for pay is already over a huge hurdle. Now it comes down to kindness, decent hygiene, etc. I'm, sadly, past my prime top years but if I can pleasure him, pay him well and treat him with respect I find my company in demand.

I use Airbnb exclusively for my trips to the Dominican Republic. But, I speak Spanish and understand the Cedula zID cards and the age requirements. In Thailand where there are so many Lao, Cambodians, Vietnamese, etc. I would be concerned about getting someone under age through no real fault of my own. There are so many perfectly adequate hotels that have no issues with guests that I would not do so in Thailand. People who are there for months on end and develop a network can go the condo route with no problems. In my situation, I would hesitate.

Vinapu, can you post the link for anyone interested?

because the posts above indicate that it needs to be negotiated in advance. I have not found that to be the case; however, the post above also indicate that it might cause issues only with those punters who think the minimum tip covers everything, thus my indication that I tip well.

I just had a thought ( it happens ) about my stated aversion to the apps. It might steam from years as a consultant with demanding large corporate clients. I lived by blackberry then smartphone. God, long before we had email I would go to the central post office in Bangkok to call in for messages - on holiday!! It might just be that I love the personal, free from electronics realm of bars and massage shops. One thing surprised me here. I always give the masseur a blow job and have never had him say no - but, I do tend to tip well.

I have been to Santo Domingo over 100 times since the 70's. Boca Chica is the beach for the capital as there is no beach front in Santo Domingo. The gay scene is nowhere near as good as it was even ten years ago as the gay disco and several bars have closed. The apps, however, work and you should do fine. The idea that it is like Pattaya is so absurd as I might have to go and lay down from the absurdity. Call it Pattaya with no bars at all. The entire country is a mulatto one and there are many, deep black, Haitians who are like the Illegal immigrants of the Island. You see Haiti is the other side of the island. Dominicans are of Spanish stock turned mulatto by Haitian invasions. The largest tourists groups are Italian and German straights. It is not a huge American destination, except for New York Gays ( many blacks ) who have been coming for years.

No, not really. Most involve you bringing it up.

Vinapu, do you know the bars in Jomtien that open late afternoon?

From 4pm some of the bars are open (especially in Jomtien), and massage shops (already) available (again budget dependant), Some boys prefer 4pm or 5pm slots for short time visits to the hotel - we can have a leisurley short time, I can feed them, and then they are ready to head off to their bars or agogos. Thank you! I swear I have asked numerous times about differences in Jomtien as next trip will be my first time there. No one else thought to mention the bars opening early. Yes! An obvious time to schedule a short time and not have a massage as the only opportunity. Thank you!

Terry might want to try a book. My reading list is always longer than my available time. I welcome the quiet hours.

Terry, after reading your various posts I would strongly suggest a visit to Capetown and be done with it.

No, sexual preference is not racism. I suppose generalizing dark skin=African type could be confusing. But, the difference between an SE type and a true African is so huge I still wonder why a self-proclaimed fan of African types would be in Thailand. It just seems so counterproductive.

I have stayed there on other trips and it was fine. Location is superb, the bath is good and no issue with hot water. I can't remember how much I paid but it was a good rate, nothing fancy here at all but nothing terrible. One thing I liked was VN masseurs who could spend the entire night with no issues. I could barely drag them out of bed in the morning so I got a lot of cuddle time. I ripped them separately from the hotel cost but 12 or 13 hours of companionship was worth it. My only issue was no food at all - nada! I ended up at the Tarnatawan or the new Rose for breakfast anyway.

I saw this and thought I would use it but change to 1,000 as, in Pattaya, that would be OK. In other words, all night means just that, if you leave early we convert to ST even if you've been with me for 3 hours. If we agree all night that is what I want. Personally, I found the post very good and worthy of keeping. I don't see it as out of date at all.

"will not recall, I'm sorry but definitely he did not mean farangs nor Africans but some Asian but whether they were young Timor Lesteans or old Bhutanese or other way around , kill me , I don't remember." Well, I might kill you with kindness, you work so hard to help us!

One of more popular Tawan boys even told me which demographic group is particularly keen on fast deeds in his opinion but I don't recall whom he pointed. Now, that's fascinating. Please rack your memory!

Yes indeed, think about the low cost of the street food outside the bars in Boys Town ( in front of Food Land ) 40 B is dinner.

Guys, I'm not sure if this is the place for it. But, last time I was in Bangkok I had a fabulous massage and great ending at a place where I entered a gate, there was a large car park area and off to the right a sort of koi pond and walks over it to get to the door. Inside was a large room with a big bar and off at the other end a glass wall and the guys in a gym space. Does anyone know the name of this place?

Yes, and I'm taking your advice to heart. I have already stored the Thai for 90 minutes on my phone.

Indeed Vinapu, I often secure the next date right there. In fact, sometimes if he is great I convert to LT and pay the second fee. He makes out quite well. Hell, a "bird in the hand is worth two in the bush." The last trip I did not do this with one guy I still dream about, I was a fool.

Fair. I wish I could get a ST for three hours!

Well, I have been doing this since 1987 and have never, ever had a problem. However, I never make a promise I pay the off.

Yes, but would the boys come to work? I love them, but they're not the most industrious lot.

You give me inspiration, there might be another chapter to my story