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Suck or wank a boy off in Sunee, at say Eros, Good Boys, or Nice boys and its a pretty standard 300 baht; 500 if they do it successfully to you as hanan says. Never fucked a boy in those bars, although I know you can in Eros and have heard that you can in Good Boys - no idea what the expected tip would be there (pitcher/catcher?) but at least 1k baht or upwards I would have thought?

What experience I have suggests that it isn't a particularly common practice amongst the Thai boys themselves, Certainly none have offered to do it to me, although in fairness I have never asked any of them; in fact I am not sure I would feel comfortable them doing to my hairy old ass LOL. I will happy rim boys, well selectively perhaps, vast undergrowths of pubes and bum hair would put me right off, but a few have the perfect, almost hairless bums and, suitably cleaned, I really get off rimming them. Most seem to like it, at least after initial hesitation 'what you do?!' etc., and at least one often starts our sessions now by positioning himself to encourage me to do it. The perineum between your bum and balls is a very sensitive area for most, and apart from the lick and chew bit, try gently scraping your finger nails along it and watch their reaction! LOL

Try https://www.facebook.com/Canterburytalespattaya/ Bit of an institution - in a good way, opportunity to browse over a cup of coffee.

Geng tells me that he and Dah and probably one other have moved to the bar next to the At Home Bar that he says is called 'R Bar'

I have heard 'My Way' murdered several times now in Pattaya. The first was at a late-night party in Soi 6 and I was up in a short-time room in the bar across the road that faced onto the soi, doing 'the business' with a then regular. It was so loud and so awful it completely put us off our shag as we were falling about laughing at his dire performance. No matter, he would finish soon and we could start again - but no, the bastard did an encore of the same song. We knew when the fates were against us and gave up on our short-time and went and had a drink instead. Another memorable rendition was delivered at a party in BoyzTown a few years ago, where a stage had been set up in the soi facing into the party bar, and there were various Thai song and dance acts. Then this tall, late middle-aged, rather fleshy farang got up, helped to his unsteady feet by his boyfriend, and descended onto the stage and was dutifully handed the mike. Nobody had really given him much thought until he started to sing, - loud and flat but with alcohol-fueled emotion oozing from every fleshy pore of his body as he 'sang'. Talk about a conversation killer, we all sat there transfixed into a stunned silence as he proceed his unsteady performance, hand gestures and tears of emotion starting to stream down this wretched man's face as he put his all into this bloody song. There was some polite applause as he finished - more, I suspect, for the compare that quickly got up and took the microphone off him before he felt emboldened to start again, and also for the poor boyfriend who had to come and get him and hep him back to his seat as he self-depreciatingly acknowledged the applause. Having said all that, if you listen to drunk Thai boys singing karaoke, they are no better; their standards are not high! They tend to 'go live' on facebook at some ungodly hour of the morning armed with a guitar and a bottle of Thai whiskey, then the next day, sobered up, they think better of it and quickly remove the post LOL

You are, for the most part, expected to haggle a little: https://youtu.be/u75XQdTxZRc But its no different to the Thai boy who asks for 2k short time, but will happily accept 1.5k and might even go for 1k if his rent is due. But I would get guilt feelings driving the hardest bargain I could with people who are economically far less fortunate than me.

Mostly they just drop their trousers and pants enough to whop their cock out, some will remove them all together and sit naked from the waist down. They will sit next to you or sit on your lap if you want (most don't kiss). I am sure fully nude is negotiable LOL Keep in mind that these are almost all straight boys who roll-up on their bikes at night to try and earn a little extra cash by allowing farangs such as us to wank or suck them off for 300 baht a time (500 if they can get away with it). You can always try offering 500 if they get fully nude? LOL

I was referring to girl agogos where they have fully nude dancing, not many now, but there are a few. I am not aware of any boy bar that does that as a matter of course, but of course places like X Boys and BoyzBoyzBoyz have fully naked boys as part of their stage shows, while in bars like Nice Boys they may be wearing pants on stage, but mostly with their cocks out on display LOL In Good Boys it only takes a beer for them to get mostly naked, although others will wander past and just show you what they got just in case you are thirsty for more! LOL

One of the reasons I love Sunee and Good-Boys is precisely because it is a hands-on type of place. Sunee, Jomtien Complex and Boyztown each have their own character, and more-so within individual bars in each area, and together they offer something for everyone, whether you want to get down and dirty, just sit and watch boys 'dance' on stage, or sit in an open fronted bar and have a relaxed chat with a boy - its all available. Just the same with the girl bars/agogos, some are hands on, some with fully nude dancing, some just topless, others clothed - take your pick. As to the ping-pong balls - seems to me entirely harmless, agogo girls often wear special net gloves to be able to quickly store as many as they can grab. Other guys will just 'rain' 20 baht notes (occasionally 100 baht notes) on the girls - and the girls love it in their agogos, its all part of the fun of being there. It seems to me far less common in boy bars. Its not how I choose to spend my money but you also get more 'lets party like a rockstar' customers in the girl bars; up to them - its their holiday LOL

I am left wondering how many get erections and what happens to them if they do?

Its 8.15am on a Monday morning, and still half-asleep I have switched on my computer, opened this site, and found myself looking at a tree full of naked Thai boys - and for several reasons I am wondering if I shouldn't go back to bed again. LOL

I use 'paint' on my laptop (dont know its proper description), but I do a photo at a time. Yes its a bit laborious, but in addition to resizing I can also trim them etc. Its very basic compared to some of the clever stuff available today but it works for me.

No signs that they had discovered Sunee Plaza this last September - perhaps they should be encouraged to? LOL

Haha some of you are fussy buggers - how do you ever manage to get laid? LOL I have a very simple acceptability test - my personal 'cock-hardening test' ! Tall, short, skinny, muscular, whatever; if a lad makes my cock hard then it's game-on LOL

'Regulars' are a key feature of my holidays, boys who I have met before and who I want to see again. There will also be boys who I meet for the first time on a holiday who I really like who I will see several times. Facebook is the way I keep in touch with most of them between holidays, using Messenger to do a 'Hi, how are you?' perhaps once a week, sometimes its a longer chat, sometimes one of us sends the other a picture. Its basically a 'don't forget me'. Occasionally one will try it on to get sent money for one reason or another, but if they get gently refused most will then carry on as normal. My main holiday, sometimes my only holiday each year is in low season where customers are scarce for many boys and the possibility of a re-encounter with a past customer is gratefully seized upon. Past encounters will also have established a degree of trust between you and the boy; that if you say you will come an barfine him on a certain day/time then you will, and if he says he will come and see you on a certain day/time then he will. Many boys are plagued by timewasters who promise but never show. Saying you will come to a bar to take your lad can be a bit hit and miss in my experience, if another customer gets to him first, he may well take the 'bird in hand ......'. What works well for me, in terms of short-times, is to arrange the day or so before for them to come to my hotel, usually in the afternoon or early evening before they start work. No barfine for you and no problem with their bar for them. Most boys prove fairly punctual, particularly on a repeat visit when they know where to come and what to expect - although I have on rare occasions spent lengthy periods downstairs in my hotel waiting for someone to show. If I want to extend the short-time into their work time then I go with them to their bar and pay the off-fee, even if I don't always go inside for drinks. We have to keep the bar's in business as well as their boys LOL There can be disappointments - boys can go home for extended periods in low season, or get day jobs. However, if they believe you will taken them several times during your holiday then they may well fit their visits home around your holiday dates. Other pitfalls can be if the main boyfriend/sponsor shows, as you might expect, they will naturally give their priority to their main source of income. That said, my 'regulars' are the mainstay of my holidays; my absolute favourites I can end up seeing maybe 12 times or more on a 20 day holiday, some provide great sex, some are just huge fun to be with, but all keep that big Pattaya smile on my face!

Compared with what else we expect them to put in their mouths, 'dirty money' would probably be the least of their worries hahaha

Presumably by the same 'logic' straight guys should also be banned from using the word 'girl' to describe female sex workers? In language context is, of course, everything. For heavens sake even groups of male pensioners in your local pub can be heard describing themselves collectively as boys or 'the old boy' sitting in the corner! Our P.C, world gets ever more intolerant, some people seemingly delight in taking offence at anything these days no matter how innocently used. Presumably if the OP has his way we shall have to insist on the renaming of all the bars of Pattaya: Toy Men, X-Men, Kwai Men, Power Men, Nice Men, Good Men, MenMenMen, etc etc, and, of course 'Men Town'. So until I 'die-off' (thanks for that sentiment!), I shall continue to describe my Thai companions as 'boys'!

I would add that many of the girls on Soi 6 (the well-known soi of 60+ short time bars) will go bareback, either as a matter of course or on request. Some will use it as a means of enticing customers in low season, others will demand a premium on the usual 1k baht short time rate there. Regular, often younger, guys on Soi 6 will even often in chat refer to a girl as a 'condom nazi' if she insists on their use, And before you say it, many of the same Soi 6 girls will offer anal - again to entice or up the fee. I would also observe that, outside of 'work' our little Thai friends of all genders usually shag like rabbits amongst themselves and there the use of condoms is a rarity. The one lad I know with HIV got it from a fellow Thai, not a customer. I say all this as an observation rather than a justification or not for the use of condoms, Personally I still get through boxes of the damn things each holiday - even though I loath them with a passion.

Corrected it for you hahahahaha (Sorry )

So keep a look out for the 'chuckwow' bars in Pattaya Hint: Sunee Plaza is a good place to start looking LOL

And yes, the best part of the deal is that they will (for the most part) go out of their way to make you feel attractive; laugh and joke with you and generally make you feel young again. If you are fat, no problem, they like 'pompui' man; if you are old, no problem, they postively prefer older men; if your skin is pale and flabby, no problem, they genuinely desire white skin, they only wish they had the same. In the room you have fought to get (and keep) your cock hard, no problem, they will close their eyes and gasp and run their hands through your hair and gently pull your ears as you fuck them. You last a few minutes before your back gives out (or at least I do), no problem, they have genuinely had a great time, and they positively prefer to finish with hand-jobs LOL And, best of all, no matter how small your cock, no problem, they will tell you that they think it may be too big for them, and they will grimace and tell you to go slowly (and, of course, in it usually pops with practiced ease LOL). You are the customer, they don't just want your money for this session, they want you to love and adore them and see you (and your money) many more times during your holiday. And trust me young twinks know only too well their allure to older men; smiles, big eyes, hugs, kisses; with baht in your pocket you will be putty in their hands LOL Your baht does more than buy you sex, it buys you into a fantasy that is hard to resist (until your money runs out, or its time to get back on the plane LOL). Its huge fun, but with almost all money boys you need to accept it for what it is. Get to know them and you will find that most have boyfriends or girlfriends back home waiting for them. Treat them kindly and and with respect and you may become favoured customers for whom they do have a genuine affection aside from the money, but it is rarely more than that. You may pine for them and miss them when you go home, but they will, of necessity, be looking for their next customer. Hell, why do you think we save-up and keep going back each year. LOL

Yes it is possible to plan out your holiday's in minute detail with tightly scripted daily schedules. No sitting on the end of the bed, feeling bored, wondering what to do now if you do that. I guess we all have our routines each day, to varying degrees and acknowledged or not, but there are limits LOL At home, my PA ensures that my work days are fully occupied and often on a tight schedule - she puts it all into my diary, travelling times, everything. Its what she is paid to do and if I follow it I get everything done that I need to do. So actually, holidays are a chance to escape from all that for a few weeks at least, I might go to sleep at night promising myself that I will do this and that tomorrow. But when tomorrow comes I am just as likely to change my mind and do something different. So, sitting on the end of the bed wondering what to do is indeed a kind of boredom, but also, looked at from a different perspective, its also a freedom to do what I want that is, for me at least, a luxury of being on holiday.

I am a 'sex tourist' - not something I widely acknowledge at home of course, but I go to Thailand (Pattaya) to meet boys, rather than visit temples or other places of culture. But at my age I have neither the energy, not to mention the money, to be able to party all day - even if there was the opportunity to do so. So maybe I wake up at 11am, say 'Good Morning' to my Long Time, and have breakfast, after which the long time usually departs. There are a few daily chores to be done, such as laundry trip and ATM, maybe a few things from the 7/11, but then I am scratching my head with what to do with myself. Sometime I will have made arrangements for a short time visit to my hotel room, but not always (usually depending on how my budget is going), or I might catch up on a few diary notes in case I write a trip report, But often as not I find myself with a few hours to kill. Later in the holiday I might be taking an afternoon nap to try and keep my energy levels up, but earlier on in the holiday I am often bored. Thai TV, and badly sub-titled TV films hold little interest for me. So sometimes I will read (I brought a couple of paperback novels with me precisely for that purpose), or I will watch a DVD - cheap enough at the stores, but some of the street vendor knock-offs are reasonably good. From 4pm some of the bars are open (especially in Jomtien), and massage shops (already) available (again budget dependant), Some boys prefer 4pm or 5pm slots for short time visits to the hotel - we can have a leisurley short time, I can feed them, and then they are ready to head off to their bars or agogos. I will head out into town around 9pm - bars are open and reasonably full of boys. From then on I can usually keep myself amused until the early hours before heading back to the hotel. Generally, however, I try and do something (or someone) different each day - easy enough in the first part of the holiday when there are plenty of bucket-list targets to find and see, but, for me at least, less easy towards the end of my holiday when my favourites/regulars are now well entrenched in my diary. So to 'cut to the chase', I am never bored with Pattaya or its bars or its boys, but yes there are times of the day when I feel bored enough to nap or read a book LOL

I very much liked Eden Bar and the two lads running it. Eden Bar became my relaxing bar of choice in Sunee during my recent August holiday. Beers here were cheap, there was comfortable seating set outside in the Plaza to sink back in, fall off the pace, and gaze at the stars with a beer in hand. Never likely to be a busy bar in terms of the number of boys based there perhaps; its small and unpretentious, but the lads were friendly without being pushy. I hope they make a go of it.

Excellent advice, One minor thing, I tend to keep an eye on my bin, especially in new bars/agogs, just to keep track of drink prices and how my total is doing. Four beers/drinks in Winner Boys, for example, will be around 400 baht, the same in Toy Boys will be almost 1,000 baht - so if I am in a bar for any appreciable time and drinks are flowing I like to ensure that I will have no problems 'checking bin' later. But actually the thing that I most wanted to say was if you go to a bar looking for a boy, or you see the perfect boy, be prepared to alter your plans for the night and just take him there and then. Dont let the opportunity slip through your fingers. As you might have inferred, I have let this happen to me on more that one occasion. This last holiday a pretty little twink of a boy called Dah, was top of my bucket list and he worked in Power Boys in Sunee. Early on in my holiday I started my night of bar hopping at Power Boys and he wasn't there - he had been short-timed. But within 20 minutes he had returned and came and sat with me, along with his even twinkier friend. The rapport was good, everything was good. But I had my mind set on my bar-hopping tour for the evening so I said I wouldn't take him(them) now but come back the next day. The next day came, and I returned ony to witness Dah and his friend being barfined - and spirited away, first on long long time, and then on a trip home. So I never had the opportunity to off him again in my remaining three weeks. The lesson being, a bird in the hand .......... Dah was the biggest regret of my holiday - and I had had my opportunity but failed to take it. So my advice is be prepared to be flexible - if the opportunity presents itself - take it, even if it throws out your plans for the rest of the evening.