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The minimum tip is for the massage. You pay a fee to the house for the use of the room, oils, laundry, etc and then the minimum tip is to the masseur for his time and effort.

Back to Bangkok today for my last few days. Pattaya has been fun and having days and evenings out with the same guy has also been both fun and different. Definitely something I may look into again next time I come to Patts. Back in Bangkok, settled into the hotel and decided a massage was the order of the day. Having been to both Hero and Prince several times I decided it was high time to give Senso a try. I've always been a bit sceptical about how good it's supposed to be. Only a 10 minute amble from the hotel. Entered and the mamasan/captain ushered me to a plush sofa. Quite disappointing as only 5 guys available and was expecting more. Still, they were all attractive and a mix of builds and there were a couple that would suit very nicely. Chose the one that was smiling broadly at me. There was a bit of an offer on prices this evening. 1.5 hour oil was 1300b instead of 1500b and they had a promotion of a 1.5 hour scrub and oil massage in a VIP room for 1490b. Minimum tip for 1.5 hours was another 1500b. Headed up 4 flights of stairs to one of the VIP rooms. On the way realised that the low selection was possibly due to the number of occupied rooms. Passed one guy on the stairs who would have definitely been my first choice had he been available for selection. Showered and then a bit of a surprise, the masseur put an extra sheet on the bed and did the scrub on the bed. I've had scrubs on marble tables at Hero, standing scrubs in many places or on massage tables but this was the first time I've had a scrub on a bed. The scrub was nice enough, but to be honest, because it is messy and eats into massage time, I'm really not sure it's worth it. At Hero if I choose a scrub and massage I always go for the two hour option. Still, it was nice and refreshing. The masseur was erect, and a good 7 inches, for a good portion of the scrub which bodes well. Another shower for both and then ready for the massage. The massage was pretty good but Shorter than I would have liked. It wasn't that it was rushed, simply that I very much enjoy a long massage and it was somewhat abbreviated due to the time taken by the scrub. I guess he could have massaged longer and not had the afters but that just wouldn't have done either. They used heated oil which was really nice and I think they have their own oil made for them as it was really nice and aromatic. Not one I've had or used before. Must go back and find out what it is. The massage progressed, certainly not the best I've had but pretty good. Would like to see how good he is over a full period without the scrub. The one thing that was really good was how much of the massage he was hard for. Once I turned over things started getting very steamy. For those that don't like gory details, look away now. He was fully hard, quite big and reasonably thick, and very quickly got me into the same state. After a few minutes play I got him to put on a condom and he proceeded to give me one of the best fuckings I've had this trip. Multiple positions, depth and varying angles. Some times battering my prostate, other times merely grazing it. I am absolutely convinced that with a little more time he could have successfully got me to come without even touching me as I was very close. As it was we finished off doggy with me blowing a huge load and him filling the condom as he pounded my ass. A proper top. Not one of the ones that pump for a few minutes in one or two positions and pop their loads. Well worth the visit to Senso on it's own I have the distinct feeling a second visit will be on the cards either tomorrow or Friday.

Bob, you went to the top and busiest bar in the area and tried to off a couple of guys to sit with you in Other bars? They are in the busiest bar and looking at the potential for more than one off in a night or going with you and losing that chance of extra money. I'm not sure how this then allows a comparison of sex with the whole of Thailand let alone another country. Try going to a much quieter bar or massage place where the guys are likely to see offs much less of the time. Let the guys know that you want to spend time with them in bars as well as sex and see how you get on. I think you will have much more success and a much better base for comparison on how much quality sex you can get. With not much effort at all you can get stunning guys to stay with you for an hour of steamy fun, a few hours of drinks and then fun, a night of whatever you want, day trips or even by the week and at rates that make you wonder why you would even want to consider the ST rate in Dreamboys.

So, my last night in Pattaya and what better way to spend it than another massage here. I'd promised my masseur from Saturday that I would be back before I left and didn't want to let him down. He was the only boy outside as I walked up and a huge smile broke over his face. He rushed off to get things together and we headed upstairs. On Saturday I PM'd EdwardMark as I was a little concerned about the shower floor being rather slippery. He mentioned he had sorted it and sure enough tonight there was a huge anti slip mat in the shower. Talk about prompt action. I have a bad back. I had an operation on it about 20 years ago but my lower back still plays up sometimes. On my last visit, though the massage was absolutely superb, I didn't mention my back and a couple of times the masseur put a bit more weight than I like. Tonight I mentioned it beforehand and he went out of his way to avoid any undue pressure or weight. Again both the massage and afters were superb. The massage showered with me both before and after and made sure I was thoroughly clean. I do like when the masseur is touchy/feely in the shower beforehand. It sets the tone nicely. The thing I really love about his massage technique is that it is completely unhurried. Everywhere is thoroughly massaged with a range of techniques and pressures. By the end we'd gone slightly over the 90 minutes but there was no rushing to finish and shower. A very nice place you have their EdwardMark and I hope business picks up for you.

If you are looking for universal affirmation of any report you like you may prefer to write a private diary rather than posting to a forum. Yes there are some, thankfully few, whose blinkered perceptions of what gay/bi/straight means that they are made uncomfortable reading about others whose perceptions are looser and who are willing to stray across the spectrum of choices not seeing the dividing lines a few seem to insist on. If you sensor your own words to prevent offence to a small sub-section of users then you are part of the problem. Write about your adventures, in as much detail as you like. Most will love your words for the vicarious thrill they give us in the months we can't be in LOS ourselves. If a small number don't read your words, or put you on ignore, it won't change the large number who will appreciate them even if the subject is not their specific taste. Vessey, I've enjoyed your writing. I've less enjoyed the pictures of which I've felt there were simply too many and, with my being on holiday on poor connections, it's been a bit of a challenge to read the thread at times. That's my problem not yours though and I'm sure most will have loved all the pictures.

I found it decidedly Meh. Went to see it in central, picked out by BF of the week. He fell asleep twice and I had to nudge him in case his snores kept everyone else awake that wanted to sleep through it. There was simply too much predictability to the story which went on far too long.

Yeah, yeah. We believe you

I have no issues putting Firecat or other users by clicking on my username and then choosing Manage Ignore Preferences. I can also choose which bits to ignore there.

It is very easy to ignore someone or avoid a thread you don't like. Simply don't read it. You don't need buttons. As it is, this is a thread for Blue House massage. Perhaps your spat could be taken somewhere more appropriate?

Four handed massage is an art in itself. Picking two masseurs randomly is very unlikely to provide a satisfactory four handed experience, especially if there is a shortage of space. It is very desirable that the masseurs work "as one" or a four handed massage can be very distracting and unsatisfactory for the person receiving the massage.

I have indeed been lucky enough to sample Lek's talents.

Getting back on track... Having sampled the talents of two of the eight pictured and seen most of the rest I can confirm that the selection is accurate and excellent. If anything one or two of the pictures do not flatter the boys concerned who are more attractive in the flesh. I wish I had time this visit to sample the talents of all the boys but will probably only have one more chance to visit this trip and have promised today's masseur a return visit. At the moment the place seems quiet, I really hope they get the business they deserve. Although I have only been to a few of the massage shops in Pattaya, this is getting to be my favourite. Clean and business like, the downstairs is basic but functional. At the top of a couple of flights of stairs are 4 small rooms with a lockable side table for valuables and a massage bed. Not a huge amount of room but sufficient. I'm not sure if there are more rooms on a different floor. The showers are clean and easily large enough for two, tested both before and after today's massage. My masseur today was excellent. People reading any of my posts probably realise that I love massage over either apps or bars. Probably 3/4 of the masseurs in LOS treat the massage and the afters as separate things. That can have it's place and be very enjoyable in it's own right though once the massage turns more sensual, it's a slippery slope to the afters. My masseur today was one of those that can make the entire massage sensual while both giving a very good and proper massage and keeping you turned on by touch. It is both very stimulating and relaxing. Well done Blue House massage

If you start with the premise that everyone is bisexual and that it's just a matter of degree from person to person, there is then much less of a need to give everything a different label. Simply go with the flow and if it feels good then who gives a damn what others think as long as it's harming no one.

Major over-reaction on his part but it seems to me that the transgenders and their boyfriends get more snide remarks and general crap than most, even in Thailand. Obviously not the case on your part, just my observations on how they are looked at generally. They still get treated far better here in Thailand than in the UK where daily abuse is a fact of life for many. Such a shame we still live in a world where making people feel bad due to their sex/race/orientation seems to give enjoyment to some very sick individuals.

The very reason I dislike putting names in reports. Too many judge harshly without knowing circumstance.

My first few days in Pattaya have been a bit different to my normal pattern. After visiting Narcissus the first night, I've off'd my masseur of that night for a couple of days which was really nice. He really does give a good massage which is even better when there's no time constraints. Very enjoyable. Tonight I tried out Blue House Massage. Easy enough to find from South Pattaya Road. It's the turn immediately before TukCom and Blue House is about 200 yards down on the left. 7 or 8 guys on duty and a reasonable cross section of types. I chose one whose pic is on the web site. Some of the pictures really don't do the guys justice. 1.5 hour oil massage was 550baht. Minimum tip wasn't mentioned but on the website it mentions soft 500b, hard 1000b. No mention of how that goes up by time. The massage place is clean with showers separate. One slightly disappointing thing was security. It was mentioned on the business thread that each room had a locker. That didn't seem to be the case in the room I was taken to. No security on the door either. Masseur was youngish, very thin and cute. Not fem, rather toned. I guess at youngish as I find it notoriously difficult to tell Thai ages and can frequently be at least 10 years out. Nice, unhurried massage. Not as good as the guy from Narcissus but still very acceptable. Plenty of time for afters. Will have to see what the rest of my time in Patts brings.

Tonight I tried out Blue House Massage. Easy enough to find from South Pattaya Road. It's the turn immediately before TukCom and Blue House is about 200 yards down on the left. 7 or 8 guys on duty and a reasonable cross section of types. I chose one whose pic is on the web site. Some of the pictures really don't do the guys justice. 1.5 hour oil massage was 550baht. Minimum tip wasn't mentioned but on the website it mentions soft 500b, hard 1000b. No mention of how that goes up by time. The massage place is clean with showers separate. One slightly disappointing thing was security. It was mentioned on this thread that each room had a locker. That didn't seem to be the case in the room I was taken to. No security on the door either. Masseur was youngish, very thin and cute. Not fem, rather toned. I guess at youngish as I find it notoriously difficult to tell Thai ages and can frequently be at least 10 years out. Nice, unhurried massage. Not as good as the guy from Narcissus but still very acceptable. Plenty of time for afters.

If possible. In a place like Prince with 25 or 30 boys, the boss is likely to know the boys habits and abilities rather than trying to ask the boys one by one . You can always confirm with the boy when the massage starts.

Was it something he'd agreed to beforehand and then reneged on? Some boys will, some don't want to. Sometimes it depends on the time of day and whether he may get more customers later. If it's something that really matters to you, I'd suggest mentioning it to the boss up front so it's clear what you expect.

On the whole, the good ones outweigh the bad by a fairly good margin and so the few bad ones I can happily ignore. I prefer to describe my experiences and not give names. If I gave names, I wouldn't then be happy describing the experience. At the end of the day, the worst massage and happy ending is going to be better than the best wank

Unfortunately not. There are several with similar names so I'm reticent to guess and affect someone's livelihood. I tend to remember the good ones rather than the bad

If I remember correctly, minimum tip for 1.5 hours at Banana was 1000b. 1.5 hour oil massage at Narcissus was 600 baht (1 hour was 400b). Minimum tip for 1.5 hours was 750b (1 hour was 500b).

Day 8 - Transition day to Pattaya on Saturday and settling in to the hotel. Sunday I had a thumping headache most of the day. Went out evening but just walking anywhere near the bars with their music blaring set it off again so just chilled. Tonight I started off in Jomtien Complex which seemed pretty dead. I may have been a bit early but not much going on there so headed into Pattaya. On the way decided I'd head to Narcissus for a massage. Not been there before but read a couple of good reports so headed in. About 8 boys on duty, one a sweet lad with a nice figure, not overly toned or muscly. Picked him out for a 90 minute oil massage. Headed upstairs. Not the nicest looking massage place by a long chalk. The rooms kind of reminded me of the Bangkok room in the film the Beach. Clean enough, just. The showers are separate but the rooms lock so your kit is as safe as anywhere with a lightweight lock and where the management have spare keys I was impressed with the masseur and the massage. Also, his English was about as good as any masseur I've had in Thailand. He said it was only high school level but to me it was reasonably good and very understandable. He's only been in Pattaya for two weeks having been in Bangkok training in various forms of massage. It showed in his technique. I very much enjoyed both the massage and the afters where he topped in multiple positions. Variety is the spice of life after all. I was asking how business was and things are very slow at the moment. People keep saying how it should be picking up but I really don't think it's doing so quickly. There do seem to be a lot of Russians in town. Every baht-bus I've been on has been at least half Russian.

Magnolia is now closed I believe. I visited in February and Vinapu in May but it seems to since have closed.