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Are you sure this still holds if you include sleeping with a GIRL half their age?

Yet, being generous when paying the boys IS an opportunity for giving help. Most probably his money goes to modest people who put it to a good use, also good for the economy since they spend it right away. This is different from 'helping' the shareholders of airlines by flying in business class instead of economy, or 'helping' big hotel chains by paying for their luxury. There is also some fairness in giving more for receiving more pleasure, quite different from paying taxes even if this helps the economy. In the US we are besieged with solicitations for charity, and one questions how much of charity money goes really into charity. There is so much fraud with anonymous charities... With the boys working in the sex industry one expects less fraud, and even if they invent some victimization to soften their client's heart, this may be only a minor sin.

I am not an expert buyer of sex, but I think that 1000 ST is the minimum VALUE I would give to a boy attractive enough to pay for sex, regardless of the conditions of the "market". This is a mere US$30 !! I would have to pay US$20 entrance fee to the local sauna (where I don't go) full of ugly fat bodies and occasionally some so-so Asian full of attitude. Compared to that, a willing seductive boy ready to please is an incredible bargain And with a reasonable amount expected by the boy I would have the satisfaction to add another 50% just to have him leave happily. (unless there is a reason not to do that)

Maybe a little off-topic, but a question comes to my mind. Does anyone know what happened to this site utopia-asia.com ?? I remember ten years ago it was THE source of information for gay Asia. Today I find it very outdated. For example, under gay saunas they don't even list R3 sauna... Periodically they remove older reader's comments. Since few seem to comment there anymore, there are practically no reviews. Today I saw only ONE review among all BKK saunas! And it is understandable why: they made it very difficult to enter new comments. So what happened? Did the reclusive original owner of the site die? Or did he underwent "conversion therapy" and is now straight?

God bless your good heart. You just bought a bunch of good karma at a discount thanks to the currency difference. And you won't be cheated if you don't expect to get it back.

Yes, I also find the events at DejaVu interesting, like the "naked staff", "mask party", same as the "orgy zone" and "kites" at Cruising sauna. But I have little experience with Farose 2, and much curiosity. I was only once there last year, and I was impressed by its size, the pool and area around it, the gym, the spiral staircase to the upper floors. It is in disarray and understandably some find it "spooky". I had some fun but there were few people, perhaps because I left in time to go back to Lumpini before transports stopped. Next time I will stay pass midnight and see what happens. I have been in a busy 39 Underground, but found few opportunities to relate to the many statues standing around.

I have no problems reading your blog from here in the US. BTW, thank you for the report on gay saunas for September. I didn't realize that there are still... 24! Of course everyone would like some more entries for best days to visit, number and "quality" of guests, acceptance of farangs, etc. but this would be asking for too much.

Think about oh so many faithful Christian men married for 30 years, who in their monogamous commitment can only undress one body for the n-th time... and no cock there!

In the LOS you still watch those idiots on the Republican side debate? But I can see why. By hearing the lies and deceptions these dirty politicians shamelessly spew, one can realize that IN CONTRAST the gay scene in Pattaya and BKK is a way by modest people who don't want to hurt anybody to make an honest living in the limited ways they are able to find.

If I don't remember incorrectly, the objection to incest is the genetic problem of inbreeding. If fucking a friend can make this friend pregnant, then it could become incestuous, provided the friend is a brother.

I have just a speculation that it may not be old age. While an unfamiliar person's mind can cleanly concentrate on the names of bars, you may have a huge collection of images and sensations associated with them that flood your mind and take away attention from their names...

Of course. A fuck can become a friend. So why cannot a friend become a fuck?

Although I had registered here a while ago, I only recently found the way into the bowels of the beast and run into useful information. I find it a well run, up to date site that addresses my areas of interest in Thailand (I only care to visit the temples and museums and royal places once, and I don't like to shop) I find this site to be very similar to the one in Singapore, blowingwind.org

Can you avoid the haze if you stay indoors, like spending most of the time at Cruise Club, Keybox, Ten Mens Club... ? (I now realize how short the list is, the many nice places Singapore has lost)

This was a few years ago before I got a smartphone. At that time my sophisticated navigation instrument was a tiny compass, which allowed me to get oriented when coming out of a metro station for example. I still carry the compass with me and I don't have to recharge it. Now the GPS tells me where I am, even if I have to hold it against a window in a bus.

I find it a nice inviting reason to visit Asia to have sex with Asians. To go directly to the source I remember when my main attraction was to Latinos (Hispanics). There are many slim, attractive people from Mexico and South America in the south of the US. At that time all I had heard about Asians was that they have small cocks. Then in a bar I made acquaintance with an Asian guy from Laos, and something clicked in me. I found him gorgeous! I don't care about cock size since I am not a bottom, and he was not even bad in that area. I think I fell in love in a unique way. But it was not going to happen. After half a year of pseudo-boyfriendship it all ended when I got tired of his ways. I also made acquaintance with his friends, and I came to the conclusion that most of these Asians are quite speculative. I have good self control and I don't let myself be at the mercy of passions. So this was it with Asians until about 10 years ago I made my first trip to Asia, and it was BKK. And there I felt like in a candy store. Many attractive guys who did not have an exorbitant opinion of themselves. Since then I am visiting Asia nearly exclusively, Tokyo, Seoul, Taipei, Manila, Hong Kong, Singapore, Luala Lumpur, Bangkok. I find my favorite flavor of gays in Singapore, well educated with a nice mixture of Asian ethnicity. But not far behind are Asians from a variety of origins, including Thailand. Like you, I have not been born with the genes of monogamy and I don't mind casual sex. Often I feel some love beyond sex for the people I have sex with. I make acquaintances from these encounters that continue remotely for some time, but then the distance draws us apart. And I don't even have much interest in maintaining a relationship with occasional visits. I enjoy my freedom and I have learned to love myself first without giving up sufficient love for others.

Thank you Christian, This is a good website, I think the most informative about gay BKK today. I have followed it for several years and I posted various reviews there. While there are plenty of reviews of the popular saunas, they are quite scarce for the local out-of-the-way saunas. But this is to be expected. What I am surprised is to find that the famous site utopia-asia.com , so useful many years ago, is now just a skeleton of its earlier self. Few or no reviews, no updates. I tried some time ago to post a review there, but I couldn't figure out how to do that anymore. Maybe this is why there are no reviews there...

Great experience! That surely helps time pass faster. Years ago I had a boy in KL who was a flight attendant with Malaysia Airlines. He told me how passengers were looking at him...

I am glad that you don't believe what you had posted above. I first thought that you were a televangelist preaching the gospel of prosperity. I used to stay at fancy places when on business to protect my "dignity". But now fortunately my "dignity" is mostly gone.

Thank you Firecat, Abang for your recommendations. I already do all of that but not in such degree. I have the idea that opening and closing many credit cards may affect negatively a credit rating. But I already have an excellent credit rating and I don't foresee any big expenses that may be affected by such rating.

Sorry, firecat69 It was all my fault when I wrote that "Splurging on hotels, fine restaurants, expensive shopping is only to impress others, to feel important in business trips or with family. " This is incorrect, and I realize that splurging is not always done to impress but also to indulge. I want to ask you: what do you do to accumulate so many points/miles? I also accumulate them but when I have enough for a free flight I use them immediately, afraid that the airline rises the number of miles to redeem a flight.

It's very smart not to exercise to avoid getting hurt while exercising. But if one is smart, the chances of getting hurt exercising are nearly zero. I'm talking about a gym, not exercising by mountain climbing or bicycling on the streets. The safest place to exercise is in the controlled environment of a gym, knowing one's weights, form, equipment. A well exercised strong body has much less chances to get hurt in normal life. I also enjoy walking. In BKK I walk many miles from Babylon to Lumpini or the Silom area. I never take a motorbike. I also walk for miles in other areas to reach my destinations (gay saunas). In four or five trips to BKK I have used a taxi only once or twice. Yes, I like to drink water because I am an animal, well placed in the evolutionary chain. I got to this happy point as follows: first coffee, then green tea, then tea without the tea (hot water), and finally the water at room temperature. No ice! Nice fresh water from the activated-carbon filter (no bottled water). I gained a likeness for beer, which originally tasted horribly, from the need to get high in gay bars when I was insecure. Now that I am not insecure anymore, haha, I stopped having a strong motivation to drink it, but I enjoy it in good company. The problem with soft drinks is that they are very unhealthy, I know many addicted to coca cola, and it is sad.

Have you looked at sex as a way to burn up calories? To keep in shape, the best drink is water. And not to fall for this theory that a few glasses of wine a day is good for the heart. You seem to limit your exercise to aerobics (walking, running, cycling). Maybe you are very young. Many young people live with the idea that exercising is running, and so they run and run and remain forever a pitiful pack of bones. As we age, it becomes increasingly important to exercise WITH WEIGHTS. Weight lifting is essential to preserve a decent, functional body into old age, even if one gives up completely the aerobics. The effort of heavy lifting exercises the heart and lungs quite well (like doing 10 squats with one and a half the body weight).

I can see how the whole protocol can be exciting, after getting confident by doing it a couple of times. Agree!!! Splurging on hotels, fine restaurants, expensive shopping is only to impress others, to feel important in business trips or with family. In sex travel the important spending is in that what has to do with sex. In the long flights to BKK I don't try to sleep because I understand that it is not healthy doing it sitting down, and because I will sleep at the airport. I may sleep some anyway, and there is good entertainment in the new planes aside from whatever I bring with me. And yes, a lot of patience is brought out by the excitement of anticipating what is coming. You are very wise in regard to STDs. I will be extra careful too. Hand holding with one hand and playing all over him with the other is a long lasting enjoyment.

That is such a noble task to lift boys out of recession!