steveboy

I like the way you defined the sun bathers. Let's thank the vitamin D2 capsules around everywhere. And why should white farangs be ashamed of white?

We know. You need whiskey in it to make it more dense.

I apologize for this comment about something that is personal. But why would a farang stay "prematurely grey haired"? There are today products that easily do away with grey and white hair, like "just for men". It is understandable that young guys may want to look older. But why would I as an older guy let myself look old?

If this is how you say, they should teach it in high school, so we don't miss out!

Maybe what others consider hell would be a nice place for us to go, full of interesting and attractive people...

Thank you. Now I have another reason to pay what it takes to have sex with the nicest beauties in BKK: "because they are there".

I think that your psalm has been mislabeled. It should be Psalm 69:69

Oh, there are definitely straights that are very open minded and nice. I was referring to the str couple who Travellerdave saw quickly retreating when they realized that they entered a gay place, and other couples like that.

I have seen several times str. couples quickly retreat from a place after realizing that it is a gay place. Those str. are so traumatized! The truth is that str. couples are usually treated in a friendly way in gay places, contrary to the treatment of gay couples in str. places!!! And these stupid str. who feel so empowered in front of a single gay but are so afraid of gay places miss the opportunity to realize that gays are not different from them, that is, that they are no different from gays.

I keep learning. It seems that blind people are not desperate.

Maybe his Aunt Myrtle is also a Fossil and she could be desperate, because if someone gives in to her "unsolicited advances" and touches her, she may fall apart in a thousand bone pieces.

Me different from "the rest of us"? I find that all the posters here have their differences. On the contrary I find that I'm coming closer to those here who like to have fun with Thai boys. I think that they are ahead of me. I never had to turn away from "unsolicited attention" from your Aunt Myrle, because I never got any attention from her. But maybe you did? And I think that everybody in this forum has or had to turn away "unsolicited attention" at one time or another. Have a good breakfast with your friends. Here in the US I am getting ready to have a good night of sleep.

LOL, I love this thread! In the US hospitals you see nurses from the Philippines everywhere. And they are as good as the American ones. And even more you find doctors from foreign countries, many from Asia, east Europe. It seems that so many young native Americans find that to follow a career in health care is too much work, and they prefer to get an easy job in some food store. Who knows how many of the successful professionals from these countries were able to make it thanks to the money some "sex worker" made with farang tourists... Many people from these countries work overseas in very menial jobs, like the maids in Singapore that are brought from the Philippines, and they also send back money to help their families. I don't know about you, but... I don't know... I'm not sure... would I like to be a maid in Singapore, cleaning the bathrooms of a despotic family, or would I prefer to be a "sex worker" for tourists in BKK? If I would be that lucky to have a body that attracts many clients, I would choose the "sex work" many times. There is much in common among people who work to support themselves and others, and this deserves respect as long as the work is honest. I find nothing dishonest in "sex work", same as there is nothing dishonest in the work of a nurse. Both satisfy some needs.

Oh please, no need to apologize for anything! We are having a pleasant exchange of ideas, for me quite productive. I can imagine what it is for your friend to stay with a young guy who would not be there but for the money. I imagine this all the time about beautiful women who live in luxury married to wealthy husbands. They all say that they are there because of 'love'. I think 'convenience' is less crude than 'money'. Your friend offers his boy a convenience that is a fertile food for love.

Brilliant !! One more thought that had never occurred to me. "The prostitute may be performing an act of charity and kindness by having sex with a needy client" At the risk of being judged as pushing my 'virtues', I have to relate a change of heart in the recent years. I never did push away an unsolicited attention with the same gesture one shakes off a poisonous insect like some immature narcissists do, but I simply said "no, thank you". Now I increasingly empathize with those who are driven by their needs, and I don't mind them getting some satisfaction by a light contact with what still seems to attract them in an middle-aged body. I like the idea of karma, and if I let others get some pleasure from me, by the time I'm in their situation I will be paid back in kind. With this idea, the exchange of money becomes a lesser core of the interaction but more of a necessary protocol. I just returned from a visit of a friend in a hospital, where I observed the work of nurses and other staff. They don't appear to be doing what they do because they are paid to do it.

Thank you, you understand perfectly. I am enjoying this conversation that opens to me new venues of thinking about paid sex. Not that I will rush and spend my income on boys, but I like to recognize the good in the actions of people, here in this particular exchange of services.

Good question. Even more intriguing is why the attachment of a payment for sex to altruistic or charitable causes is assumed to be A NEED. You may have your friend hardcore Irish Catholic that does all these things, and you interpret his actions as A NEED. Is this because there is A NEED to assign some negativity to the feelings others have but not oneself? Because I have not read why it is BAD when one LIKES to attach altruistic and charitable causes. To say that the LIKE is a NEED sounds like playing psychologist and preach psychology 101 for reasons that are not clear.

Your post made me reflect. Why do I care where the money I pay for services goes to? Maybe this is a weakness? On the other hand, I pleased with caring where this money goes. It surely makes it easier to spend when I know that it serves to fulfill a need. I cannot feel this way when I pay my income taxes, but why should I not feel this for a nice boy I have sex with? Or should I think that he is a big corporation and the money goes to some shareholders? Please explain why you think that I am wrong.

I realize that for some individuals who buy their sex, sex is something that has a price attached, like 1000 ST or 2000 LT for a good quality boy, and so as the price gets lower, the quality gets lower too. If the price goes town to zero, so it happens with the quality, and this is what one gets for "free sex". But for some of us, "free sex" is simply the natural non-commercial interaction with a person one is sexually attracted to, and "non commercial" can be great too!! In my long experience with picking up guys, visiting gay saunas in multiple countries, from casual acts to short romances since the early days, the idea that all that sex was "free" never crossed my mind. Of course, I always have been and plan to be "free sex" myself. I have never set a price for my body, haha. Some of my "free sex" even you with your high standards would find attractive.

Thank you kokopelli, a very helpful post. I realize that, although I get free sex, it is not often what I like the best. So why should I not add some of the oldest "attraction" in the world?

"Eloquence"... You deserve an A+ in diplomacy.

I sincerely never thought of the disclosure by some members of their higher tipping rate as bragging. The same as I don't find that the members who disclose their hot adventures with gorgeous boys are bragging. On the contrary, I feel good that they have such a good time and it turns me on. And I think they are doing a good service for people like me who are just beginners in the art. I have only paid for sex with a male once in my life, and it was very positive. But I still question why should I pay for something I can get for free and experience the challenge of getting it. But now that I found this site and start reading, I'm warming up (!! ) to the idea of having some paid sex. I think that I am not repulsive and I should not be much hardship for a working boy. Although I have no moral problems with paid sex, it is very helpful the concept of contributing to the support of a young person and eventually his family. And I like generosity and win-win situations.

According to kokopelli's math, you will have to limit yourself to 3 guys for the next six years. Or, if you cannot wait so long, you can do it with four 16 year old-s in Japan, China.

Yes, hopefully he continues by opening "Hot and Rain in Pattaya 2"

Hopefully one day you will have legal sex with someone one-third and one-fourth your age...