steveboy

There is a website saunabangkok.com related to the activities at DejaVu and Cruising (in Thai but can be translated by the browser) where someone always lists the coming events. There is where I found this event on Saturday. Well, Babylon was REALLY crowded all Songkran long. And their big crowds were a good mix of all types. So you probably would have found your type in larger quantity than in a moderately busy place. And the beautiful young have to pay the same as the rest to come in, and they must not mind the variety if they go there.

Thank you for reading my reports. There were some muscular guys among the crowd, some which were regulars at the sauna gym. But not the types that look like professional bodybuilders. Some young Chinese in groups looked nice.

You must have good pockets to carry the mouthwash with you. I have a way too which I'm not sure if it works. I do it with much saliva trying to have more fluid coming out of my mouth than getting in. Maybe it has some "placebo" effect...

This sounds like preaching to the choir. No one wants to get STDs. What is helpful is to identify, describe the risks. Then the amount of risk we want to take is a personal thing.

There seems to be consensus that there is no risk of contracting HIV by receiving oral sex, and when giving it the risk is very low, especially if one doesn't have any cuts, bleeding gums, or other paths to the bloodstream in the mouth. This is good news. The bad news is that other less dramatic but still nasty STDs can be contracted through oral sex.

Saturday post-Songkran Yesterday was a regular Saturday at Babylon except for a rock concert in the evening. There was a good crowd, however I wanted to go to some other gay sauna for some variety. I was undecided between R3 and DejaVu again, which I had enjoyed so much a week earlier. Soon I ruled out R3 because they screw people over 50 with a much higher entrance fee, which I find is an abominable age discrimination. (their policy, not the money) So it was to be DejaVu again. They had there another nude night, but no event took place. It was for me a "complete failure". But nothing to think of suicide about. There were few people, older and bigger than the week before, maybe some who didn't get some during Songkran? Those I liked I could count with two fingers. Also all the passion of last week was gone. These guys stood around, then they moved to a different location to stand around some more, etc. etc. Except for a few, no one took notice of me. They passed in front of me like I was part of the furniture, always searching for something better, apparently. I am not shy, and I touched quite a few bodies. I was not rejected, they didn't move away, but they STOOD there like they had no blood in their veins. One of my defects is that I am impatient and I definitely need reciprocity. If I touch someone and he does not touch back, soon it feels like touching a rubber doll or a wax figure. Yuck! I even touched an older guy with a belly and... he just stood there! I wanted to laugh at that, really. Here I thought I made him a favor, and he could not even lift a finger. I talked with one of the dead bodies, and he was very nice. He explained to me that on some days the guys are like that, and maybe I should be more insistent. But after having been treated so well the previous days I was not going to put up with such weirdness, and I left empty handed after two hours of being there. In this experience I discovered a positive side: my self-esteem is strong and healthy. At no time did I blame myself, there was no one to blame there. It simply was a case of "the grapes were sour", LOL! I returned to Babylon in good spirits, enjoying the trip especially the ride in the shaky noisy buses and the calm walk between the MRT and Babylon. Today Sunday is my last day here. My flight leaves around midnight, so I have still an evening to play at Babylon and I hope I recoup what I missed yesterday. And if not, so be it. I have already a very strong feeling of success about the whole trip.

Not much to envy there. The 50s can be some of the most troubled years in a long life.

Here I am hooked on mango drink with every meal. Love it! After staying nearly a week at Babylon sauna, after watching a thousand people here, I have not seen a single fight, a single expression of anger. I socialize here with people who elsewhere would be serious and straight, but here we are all gay. Barriers come down. Prejudices come down. Underwear comes down. This is what I find "spiritual". To take a break of a few days and be authentic.

Friday, third Songkran day. Things calmed down a bit at Babylon. In the morning there was an outstanding event, the "chub and bears club" (or something like this) held a private pool party, and we guests were invited. Having nothing better to do, I was there from the beginning and sitting down at the little hall in the 2nd floor observed the big guests arriving. It was an educational practice and I gained some higher estimation for the very big. They were very nice, and the groups of big very loud Chinese kept me smiling and at ease. Then I went to the pool, which was cordoned off, and those guarding the entrance looked at me very strange, but they let me pass because I had the little string identifying me as "guest". So I sat there sipping some beer and watching the crowd. I didn't get much attention, they surely found me ugly with so little flesh on my slim body... Then I went to the gym to work out, and soon some of my peer guests came here too. They told me that I am a good example, and I pointed at the example of the big bodies in the pool.... (I am so bad!) At noon I went back to my room for siesta and relaxation, and returned to the sauna in the afternoon. This was a usual sauna day except for the rock concert planned for the evening. I did some cruising, ate my afternoon meal, and returned to my room for more relaxation and reading. I returned in the evening for dinner and gay watching, bonding. This day there were more chubs of course, and I would say that 2% of the crowd was my type. Nonetheless such low percent was sufficient to find what I wanted and I fulfilled my purpose there. Thinking of it, I am now amazed that I spent the three Songkran days at Babylon without coming out of the facility at all! It was as if I had spent three days at a spiritual retreat! And there was a good amount of "spiritual" there too, the kind I like. Plenty of socializing, plenty of walking around, plenty of entertainment, and sufficient decent food and other necessities. Today Saturday I will return to the world and travel the city. Fortunately I have done all my shopping, and I will go for another sauna experience elsewhere tonight.

Yes, the bubble butt of his avatar is in good shape.

I have been flying between the US and BKK many times with United. My level of satisfaction with this airline has dropped quite a bit recently. They are screwing us with their miles program, with the quality of their food, with the free perks that are not free any more. If you look for seat width, a word of caution with the 787s, which United has plenty. Their seats are NARROWER than other big body jets. You can do your research about this on www.seatguru.com As long as I can do the booking far in advance, choose a low fare, choose an isle seat, I have no problems with economy. I would never pay for business class. If I had 70,000 miles I would wait to reach 80,000 and get the round flight with miles. I did this in my last flight, and I was able to choose flights over the Atlantic (with scale in Europe) in planes that I like more than the 787s and better airlines, like Thai airways.

Maybe your thinking comes 30 years too early. It fits more a man of 85 instead of one of 55. You are perhaps the same person of 30 years ago but with the bubble butt now flatter, the flat belly now more rounded, the flexible legs now stiffer, the long neck now shorter and bent forward? All this is reversible. At 55 now you start a DECADE that ends at 65. I know men who reached their peak at 65 and preserved it into their 70s. Unless you have a demanding wife and five kids to take care of, you can dedicate all your energies... to yourself! If you have been sick you know the importance of preserving the health, which is fragile, with good nutrition and overall habits. Add to this plenty of the right exercise and you have a winning combination. At 65 you can look back and remember how much better you were at 55, OR you can realize how much better you are than at 55. Another factor in your favor with time is that the guys in their 30s who were old when you were in your 20s become more attractive. Add to this the fact that older men who are in very good shape are attractive to many young guys, maybe because there are not so many, Young guys who feel proud of having a body that attracts and satisfies older men who deserve it.

Thursday, 2nd Songkran day Yesterday it was a little back to normal, breakfast in the regular room on the 6th floor. But man, this place is packed! Chatted at the breakfast table with tourists from all over the world, A few very cute Thais were also among the guests. I went into the sauna at 2PM for the second foam party in the afternoon. I found some good seat to do the people watching, and they kept coming! This time I saw a larger variety of people, not all eye candy. In response to the post above, here EVERYBODY FITS IN. The chub, the old, the very old, make a nice contrast that brings out the most cute young Asian twinks. And from the experience of myself and other older peers, everyone gets sooner or later the action one wants, there is plenty to go around. There was again some show at the pool, and then the gates opened to the foam party. It was as busy as Wednesday, perhaps with more moderation. A dance show went on on one side of the place as we did our thing in the foam, I tried to hide behind the big bodies as some mean staff sprinkled us from the side with cold water. Once I got enough, I pushed my way out and went to the showers to wash off the foam. From there to the dark steam room to warm up, and back out to the inner patio for more gay watching. Ah, these white undies on the tanned slim bodies... After a while I went upstairs to the cruising area to fulfil that part of the event. Time flies, and before I could remember it was dinner time. The main restaurant however was packed full, and I like to eat peacefully at my own table. So I went to the restaurant upstairs, with more space and more quiet. After dinner, having more than extracted everything I could from the event, I left the place at around 8PM (six hours after I came) while there was a line of people waiting to get in. I went up to my room to read and get on the internet while the music kept blasting into the room, and when it all ended I went to bed. Another successful day behind me. Today Friday there is an event in the sauna at 11AM for the "bears", which they define as those over 100 Kg in size (??). They told me that I get in even if I'm far from this threshold. So I'm ending here because it's time to go.

Thank God! They probably would show huge muscles and a tiny little cock shrunk from all the steroids and what not...

Wednesday Morning At 8AM was the pool party for the guests at the facility. The buffet breakfast was set up at the side of the pool, some new-year wishes by the funny dressed staff, etc. So we sat down in groups, and the fun began with water. Sprinkled with ice water by the staff, some water spraying battles. Next came the gogo boys in white underwear and started dancing on the edge of the pool. I was picked out with others to stand between gogo boys and jump in the pool with them. In the end everybody was thrown in the pool by everybody else. All nice fun. Wednesday Afternoon, Evening. After the habitual siesta I went to the sauna, worked out in the gym and cruised around some. A time later the crowd started to arrive. Here are some pictures I took while having my afternoon meal at the restaurant. Many bodies filling the pool site and some gogo dancers in the distance: One picture shows many choices for those who like big men, another for the likeness of slimmer men. I had never seen so many Asians in skimpy underwear in my life. And such a variety! Even if only 20% were my type, and I'm being picky, this was over one hundred guys! On this occasion the sauna opened an additional cruising area that added many more rooms. So I was able to find rooms to score twice in the way I like to do it. At 8 PM started the foam party. Due to its size, it was set up in an large parking? area outside the building. A large square able to contain countless bodies. This was the most accomplished foam party I have attended, and... I am experienced. A large chute ejected foam at regular intervals and it filled the square to an ideal height, not so much to drown but enough to hide all the action underneath. I got in as soon as it started and I left when I got exhausted from all that sliding, pushing and shaving, tired of holding my underwear in one hand and groping with the other, trying not to lose my sandals. Finally I was able to slide out, shower, get my stuff and exit the sauna, to go next door into the building up to my room, to fall asleep with all the noise still coming in. I didn't take any pictures of this foam party because I would not risk my smartphone in all this commotion. Today the celebration will continue with a second foam party in the afternoon. Will see how this turns out, but I doubt it will reach the uniqueness of yesterday.

I think that even sign language can clarify the issue of top vs. bottom, maybe only after engagement, but what is the rush? I had a problem at DejaVu with a cute Thai who wanted a conversation with me in an English that I could only understand one word out of ten, and it was impossible. Since I plan to return to this country for many many future years, I might decide to learn some basic Thai language.

I know why ONE gay traveler likes to come to BKK for Songkran, It is because so many Asian gay travelers from nearby countries come to BKK for Sonkran to meet other cute Asian gay travelers, and so many local gays are on holiday and can go wild celebrating in the gay places socializing with gay travelers. Let's say it is a case of positive synergy built up over some years. It must be good for the Thai economy too, a win-win situation.

DejaVu is further away from the tourist areas and it caters more to locals, which I like. On the event nights the nudity is everywhere, which I find more exciting. And it is cheaper too. I paid 140 baht there vs. 300 baht at Sauna Mania. Somewhat similar to DejaVu and with the same ownership is the sauna "Cruising". I like to go to either one depending on the events they have.

It seems the initial fuckers are trained staff, customers would not moan so loudly. I don't know how this continues, I was busy with my own stuff...

Babylon Sauna expects a crowd of over a thousand people descending on the facility for its Songkran foam party, with long lines extending along the street to get in. Will see how this works out.

Thanks to the resolution of reasons for canceling a trip to BKK I had planned for these days, and thanks to waiting to cancel room reservations until he last minute, here I am for Songkran. I arrived in BKK Saturday 9 early in the morning after a good flight from Texas with scale in Germany (Munich). It had been over a year since my last flight with United Airlines, and I thought at the time that their service could not get any worst. I was wrong. Their food now may not be touched by the inmates in a prison, so poor it is. By contrast, the food in my second flight with Thai Airways was delicious. From the airport, the city link train, the MRT and a brisk walk from Lumpini to Babilon Sauna got me checked-in in my room in the barracks at about 9AM. I immediately went for the communal breakfast, where I met some fellow gay travelers from previous visits and got updated on the BKK scene. Saturday: On this Saturday evening I visited the sauna DejaVu, for its weekly “fucking party”. Again a healthy walk to the MRT Lumpini station, exiting at Lat Parao and taking a bus along this main avenue until Soi 122 got me there. On these nude days no towels are given out and everyone including the staff is nude throughout the place. I think this is the optimum rapport for a gay sauna. After an interesting early playing around, by the time the “fucking party” started, a good crowd of Asians in their 20s, 30s with a few older than that including me, gathered around the fuckers. This fucking was not the exciting part, but my turn on was from the line of young Thais following this act as if this was something special, and the whole group got busy with gropings and blow jobs to the tune of the moaning by the fuckers. When my attention switched from this activity I was involved in, the group was dissipating and moving to the upper floor of maze and rooms. There I played repeatedly with exactly the bodies I liked and after successful consummation I left the place with the action still going on strong. I plan to return there next week for a similar night one day before my return trip. Sunday: After long communal breakfast, siesta, workout at the sauna, dinner at the sauna, I made a pleasant evening walk to Sauna Mania, who had their nude night. This was a repetition of the experience the day before at DejaVu, minus the “fucking show”. It was very good, although with the lack of available rooms I had to content myself with ending the evening with BJs. If it would be worth, my complaint of Sauna Mania would focus on the age discrimination policy they copied from R3, which is their sister company, that charges higher entrance fee to those over fifty. But to pay 300 baht instead of 200 is still a steal for all that fun for less than 10 US$! Monday, Tuesday: In anticipation of Songkran I kept a low activity these two days, spent mostly at the Babylon complex except for some shopping trips and a stroll in the evening to Silom soi 4 with some sauna peers for eye-candy watching. Sitting at a bar outside we engaged in a shameless evaluation of the male bodies strolling in front of us, which these bodies of course liked. I cannot do this kind of thing in my home town, haha. These two days I got plenty of action at Babylon itself, which I'm glad to say was at a level that makes the visit to other saunas redundant. I like the mix of old and young, the old to have interesting conversations at the side of the pool and in the restaurant, the young to have good sex at the cruising areas. Since they opened this small nude orgy section downstairs from the main cruising area they are now at par with the other hot saunas. One reads reviews of Babylon that are critical of its “boring lack of excitement”, and I really don't know what they are talking about. It is now Wednesday early morning, and I will see what this day will bring about. Judging from the preparations here, it will be great!

Thank you traveler123. Maybe it's better that it closed, rather than seeing it so decayed.

In April 2005 I made my first visit to Thailand, starting with a few days in Pattaya. I stayed at the Ambiance hotel, which I found very friendly. The first night I went to the bar directly across the Ambiance, my first visit to a bar in Thailand. There I saw a group of gorgeous boys that left me speechless. After a conversation with the mamasan and pointing at the most gorgeous, he called the boy, who came with a big smile, and he told me that the boy was eager for me to off him. I couldn't believe my luck and I made my first transaction of this kind. Hand in hand with the boy we crossed the street and soon we were in my room. He was the most attractive boy I had ever met in my life. A perfect body between twink and hunk and a character that matched it. This was my first time ever I payed for gay sex, and it was priceless! It never felt like "sex for money" but like something so good that I had to reciprocate with a little money present to the boy to whom I felt indebted. The next morning I crossed my boy in a store nearby, and he asked me to get together again that night, but dumb of me, i had other plans. Later that day a cute employee of the hotel knocked on my door and expressed his desire to have sex with me, to which I obliged and even tipped him nicely. Now 11 years later I have nostalgia and want to revisit the place, staying again at the Ambiance, and do the same offing. But I realized that the bar I had visited at the time was the COPA, and now I read that... it has closed! Breaks my heart!! Next time I come to LAS I will repeat my old experience, and instead of the Copa I may have to settle for the BBB bar around the corner.

This was the same guy who enjoyed bashing posters who had made negative comments about the boys he likes. And when he improperly posted the pictures he was not supposed to post, he made some charming comments: "I know some people here dont like when we talk about tawan..its because they don like musclemen..all they like is thin underage boy with fem body and ugly face like drug addict..but i dont care what other people like or not..here is collection of my lovely tawan guys who makes my night more happening while im in bangkok..to those who dont like..just shut your mouth..lol" Such a nice guy, isn't he?

LOL! You are right.