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You think that Caucasian men are like fruits that have to be mature? I am mature, but I don't like to be eaten.

LOL, something to think about... I agree that a vacation spirit can be ruined if one has to get mad at strangers. And being mad at ourselves... well, it should not last long since we are family. I have learned at last to keep control of emotions so I can stay unperturbed by negative incidents during the vacation. The flight is delayed, children in the cabin screaming, rude attendants, ... computer left behind at the security check, ...arriving late, hotel room not what I like, ... disappointing sauna visit, ... now I can produce a smile at negatives as long as there is no threat to the body integrity. This does not mean that I don't try hard to get everything perfect.

I think that it is very natural to travel alone, especially if some sex tourism is involved. This is particularly fortunate if one has a BF at home who does not mind us doing that... After all, we start our life alone before we are born, and if we love ourselves we don't have to feel lonely ever. We can gain the necessary expertise of a place we visit thanks to the wealth of information on the internet (a forum like this one included), and it feels good to be self-sufficient.

Interesting, but does not seem very specific. It can be one more place that acts like a black hole sucking in your time.

Should the former boyfriend give him a discount?

In the evening the two farangs getting in the same bed with the two offed boys and trying out all the permutations?

A useful thought. As long as there is no violence, scams that we are aware of can be of little consequence.

Your recommendations have been very successful for me in all the foreign cities I visited. Always doing independent research. One look at Google maps, if possible at the Street View to see the route and the front of the place I'm going to. Studying the metro or buses, their entries, exists, stops. Before having a smartphone I carried a compass to get my bearings after exiting a metro, for example, and I still do it just in case. In this way it does not matter too much if the signs are in Thai, Mandarin or any other.

I have much admiration for the Japanese, in addition to the strong attraction to their young males... It was such a good example the behavior of the population after the tsunami and nuclear plants accident! Here in the US there would have been endless riots. Their discipline and technological might appeals to my German side too.

Haha, you run it in four minutes? Like vinapu observed, just slightly to the west and the mood of boys change much for the better in Laos. I only had dealings with one boy from Laos in the US, a beautiful and very suit one

As I wrote before, in the US where I live there is a large population of Vietnamese and in the local university where I briefly taught they have a reputation for cheating. Indeed the ones I caught in my class were Vietnamese boys and girls. Cute but not very honest...

Maybe it is my misunderstanding but I don't think that what you mention is all the scam discussed here. Much of it is the exploitation of our feelings of compassion, empathy by coming along with invented stories. It happened to me on my first visit to BKK when I hired a guide. He gave me a story of his problem with diabetes and his need to be injecting insulin throughout the day. I felt sorry for the guy and gave him a large tip. Then I reflected about the places he had taken me and realized that they were out to extract my money and the guide must have been in on that. I read the stories of good hearted farangs who are confronted with the tragedies that conveniently happen to their cute boys that attach to them and steal their hearts, and I know personally several cases of this. This kinds of scam are deliberate, although one ends up feeling more sorry for the scammer than outraged.

True. I think Christian is right. And few societies scam in such kind ways... Among countries maybe the Vatican takes first place: kindly give your money to God (read: us) and you will be blessed in the afterlife.

Hahaha, I hadn't heard that one! Every once in a while one hears in a gay sauna or gay bar someone saying something like this: " the people here are no good, a promiscuous, sleazy low class of individuals". And one feels tempted to say in the face of this snobby gay: "The people here... YOU ARE ONE OF THEM! " By the way, my BF of 20 years and me we met in a sleazy gay bar, and I am sure I could not find a better person in a church.

Well, it might be better this way. Gogo bars where any boy can be had for money, and saunas where the only motivation is lust. I also in my over 200 sauna visits in many cities, countries have never been approached with requests of payment for sex, and I don't know how I would react. I just have read about saunas frequented by money boys, but I have never been approached by one. I have this fantasy of something like a regular sauna with cute boys circulating like the customers but with a distinctive number, and fliers around with a "menu" of boys with their prices. Yes, like a self-serve restaurant... or even better, a sauna like that with a high entry fee and an assortment of boys for "all you can fuck", all included in the entrance fee.

Not only low income Thais. I see it often in a place full of middle-class people and plenty of drip coffee machines, some snobby guy leaves the place and returns with a big Starbucks cup in a gesture that screams of "I don't go so low as to drink that cheap brew, I only drink quality".

And I say it again! Join us for a happy threesome... if you look as good.

I like your sincerity, so I will give you some panoramic view from the other side. Has someone in this forum ever called you a SOB? Has someone asked his "peeps" to put you on IGNORE and called you a MF who lurks around the corner, while you believe that you are a decent contributor to the forum? Has someone said that your talk is CHEAP and you live in a fantasy world? I have known you years ago from other forums. In the past you commented that you had serious health problems. I responded with posts expressing sympathy and support, which were never acknowledged. Here and there I have answered some posts of yours with useful advice, which were ignored. When you opened this thread, I saw it as a positive indicator that you are healthy again. And I liked your feelings that you look as good as others much younger than you. seeing your pictures I thought (in my mind) that I look all as good as this fellow who is much younger than me, and this is a double pride since I compared myself to one who feels as good looking as others much younger than him. So why cannot this be a win-win situation? My crime seems to be that you don't like my sense of humor, but, don't we all see the world through slightly different pairs of eyes? I have forgiven, forgotten the insults. No harm was done. Hopefully this is a valuable experience. I wish you don't leave this forum. There is no reason we cannot live in harmony without using each other as literary punching bags. I think that you and me we are valuable contributors to this forum, to any forum gay or straight. Can we make up? Be friends? Shake hands? My best wishes to you. Cheers!

I don't write from experience, but it occurs to me that a good compromise are gay saunas where money boys can do their trade there. In this way: - money boy and client can evaluate each other in advance - no need for another place to do the act - no possibilities for theft, since client has everything in his locker and can access it after the act to pay the boy - little opportunities for violent confrontations since people are around or nearby In fact, when starting my experience with money boys this would be my environment of choice. Any recommendation of gay saunas with hot money boys in BKK?

LOL! You are right that people may feel sorry when we are old and crummy and want to lift our spirits. But it is not always so. Older age offers opportunities to feel happier, less stressed, with more time to dedicate to oneself, and all this can affect the appearance in a positive way... up to a point. And the older we get, the more we realize that inside we are still the same person, regardless of age. The young don't have the experience to think like that.

I was not questioning his looks but I wanted to say that a doctor can have so many good patients who look very sick and bad, and one can reflect on "why bad things happen to good people?"

When I was an instructor at the local university most of the students I caught cheating were Vietnamese. Maybe because my eyes were on them more? (Vietnamese can easily turn me on!) Nooo... compared to the formal Americans, they were very competitive, and so they tried in any way possible to get ahead.

I was not aware of this. And I find it disturbing. Why should hotels take advantage of our gayness? We gays don't wear out the hotels more than straights, or eat more, or consume more water and electricity. Instead we are less confrontational, better behaved, more financially trustworthy (I assume)

I have reported your post to the moderator as a highly insulting ad hominem attack against my person.

My exclusive interest in the Saphan Kwai area is the sauna "39 Underground" located there. Their Friday events are fun enough to justify the trip there by BTS.