DivineMadman

It's funny, I take the opposite approach. Somebody says "new boy" and I steer clear. I like guys to have a little experience, and of course by now I'm immune to the "I love you". The newbies seem to be more emotional. But I suppose I'm lucky I've not had the non-performance problem and I just say no to requests for money or blah blah. (Anyone else noticed that the family water buffaloes don't seem to be dying with frequency that they did a few years ago?)

Bonny and Bangkok on Soi Twilight are open late, but I don't think they go much past 2:00

WTF? Of course boys are happy if you buy them a drink, but if you are just talking to them for a couple of minutes to test their skin temperature or manliness or whatever people try to assess in a couple of minutes and then decide it's a pass and give them 100 baht -- they are perfectly fine with that. They know full well how expensive the drinks are. Firecat mentioned that if he sits with the boy for the show, then he buys them a drink. He's fine. If you are in the habit of always buying boys a drink, then that is 100% your choice and I say good for you and good for the bar and good for the boys and all concerned. But to say that the boys think that conduct as described by Firecat is black hearted is, frankly, nonsense. What the boys don't like is being groped for 30 minutes and then getting a 50 baht tip or no tip at all. But that's not what Firecat or anyone has been suggesting at all. As always I have to caveat all my remarks as being true at least in Bangkok. Maybe Pattaya is different. But here in Bangkok on Soi Twilight, from what I can see the board member who is probably the most popular with the boys is one whose name I will not specify because I don't want to drag him into this silliness but he's not the one always buying drinks for every boy he talks to.

This is one where individual preferences and experiences will probably differ a lot. Here's my take on the pros and cons of getting someone to come to my room: Pros Easy, I guess - you don't have to leave your room Might be cheaper if it's a freelancer off of Hornet (but see cons below) Maybe just maybe the in-room guy won't be a clock-watcher, so time less of an issue. (At shop sometimes you'll go over the allotted time, but not too often. More likely the opposite) Cons If you're sourcing the masseur from one of the massage shops that offer outcall service, better chances the guy will be trained, but if you're getting him off of Hornet he may not be well-trained and massage really just means boom-boom. Out-call rates from the massage shops are often insanely high. I think Senso used to be 3.500 or something like that. (Not all are that expensive.) In-room service from some guy of Hornet is typically just normal money boy short-time rate, which can be negotiated. I think some massage shops require a deposit before sending someone out on an out-call. Personally I like the fun aspect of selecting from a lineup of 30 guys all trying to get my attention - only at the shops. Also I like to see the real thing as opposed to pictures. No one to complain to. The transaction is 100% agreed up front. When I'm done I can leave a massage shop. It's all in my control.

Le Meridien has nice beds.

I'm not a Tawan regular by any means but I believe that if there is a big gap between bodybuilding competitions some of the guys do let themselves get a bit out of shape softer. I don't think it necessarily foretells the end to Tawan club. Just bad timing.

you might find The Prince for massage has a bigger selection of the "muscular guys with great bodies" the juicyness of whose asses you wish to sample. Most of the guys there will be on the muscular side of very fit/gym bod.

fyi - i think Bangkok International Dental Center has their price list available on their website, and some of the other dental centers do as well, if you're interested in comparing to your home jurisdiction.

I recently switched to Bangkok International Dental Center and have been very happy with them (including a recent extraction/crown). I used to go to Bangkok Dental Hospital but found they became very aggressive at upselling and adding on additional extra charges without explanation. I think you get comparable care at the two.

i was assured last night that the decorations at Hot Male Bar weren't for lunar new year, as i had thought, but in fact were getting ready to welcome back Mr. Paul.

prices are regulated and there's a sign with the prices at the mocy stand. Unfortunately I think you'll find it it is written in Thai, so may not be particularly useful for you. There's not supposed to be two-tier pricing but wouldn't surprise me if drivers try to tack on something extra. Cute little piece in coconuts about a mocy stand that [illegally] put up a sign saying overweight people would be charged extra. http://bangkok.coconuts.co/2017/01/30/opinion-should-motorcycle-taxi-drivers-be-able-charge-heavy-people-more

I was at Dream Boys last weekend and there were more than 60 guys on parade. More guys than any other gogo bar.

Went to Fresh Boys last night. About 25 guys available, all types. Show is basically the same as it has been for a while, with one exception. Show is: one high energy dance number; one solo seductive dance number; solo masturbation-sort-of-number by big-dicked guy (no cum); one interminable shower/foam dance number; naked big dick guys on parade (about 6 guys); and finally two guys sex/fucking show behind mesh screen - but last night FOLLOWED by them walking out into the audience and continuing the fuck show (for tips, of course). If the two guys are fucking right there with the audience members unclear why the first part of the fucking show is behind that semi-transparent mesh. Maybe they're just pushing the envelope for what it is currently permitted. I have no clue if this will be a regular part of the show now or if it is special for the lunar New Year.

I think most if not all of us on this already board know about the guys and their ways of extracting money from customers. Don't see what that has to do with the points that I was making. I don't think the doorman at a bar or anybody looks at you like a fool (your words) if you just go into a bar and pay the price. I also think it is perfectly fine to go to a bar that does not negotiate the price. And that was what started this particular sub-chain - I was simply pointing out in response to samebb that the decision to walk away from a bar just because it does not negotiate means you miss out on a good show and good line up of guys.

But of course we know that many bars do not negotiate the price. A business decision for them to make. So then the decision we have to make is whether or not to go to the bar because they won't negotiate. Up to U. There's a-probably-made-up story among Thais about a westerner who tried to negotiate prices at the 7-Eleven. And BTW I really don't think people look at you like a fool if you don't negotiate the price of the bar drink. The truth is they're not giving anyone that much thought. If it's a fun game you enjoy playing, then play it. But I wouldn't turn it into a negative comment on people who don't play it.

I'm all for getting a lower drink price, particularly when floridarob is in charge of doing the negotiations and I don't have to, but sometimes i think we have to ask ourselves if the 100 baht saved is worth not going to see a show (and the lineup) at a different bar. So to each his own. It's the tension between "don't sweat the small stuff" and "the money saved here and there can add up."

you'll get different answers from everyone here on "best" for this or that. I haven't seen the show at screwboys this but they usually have a good mix of guys - something for everyone. saw ggobkk the other night with a guy from screwboys who i thought was as handsome as I've ever seen. I mean, wow. Other bars with the most twinks: Classic Boy and X-Size and then Fresh Boys and X-Boys (in roughly that order). Classic Boy makes twinks its niche, so it's usually thought of as THE twink bar. Haven't seen the show this year but it is usually pretty good. Classic Boy has worst mamasans. X-Boys has a good very long show, good selection of all types of guys. Mildly irritating mamasans. Fresh Boys also has a good selection of all types. I think the show is good but has been inconsistent lately - maybe they've been dealing with guys on holiday. Don't know. Even so I like the place a lot. But that's just my opinion. X-Size has some cute guys and a couple of gorgeous one, but as near as I can tell they seem to have given up on the show. When I went (with floridarob) there the "show" was three songs with guys simulating sex acts, erect condom-clad penises, but that was it. very odd. Still worth going for the guys, but don't expect a good show, and be sure to negotiate down the drink price to 300 because the show is so bad....

ha. there isn't - one reason is that some bars change the drink prices when things are busy (peak pricing) and some of the bars will negotiate lower prices for the intrepid customers -- i.e., floridarob -- who ask before going in. I'm expecting some bars will raise prices for lunar new year. BTW - I'm updating massage info - still pondering best ways to present the data.

I see the Asian customers offing guys from the BKK gogo bars all the time, so the common myth that, for example, the influx of Chinese customers wasn't good for the working guys because they didn't take the offs like the farang customers, is just that - a myth. I also know of one guy with a wealthy Chinese boyfriend who sends money and there are certainly reports of many more. There are also many many farang customers who nurse their one drink and don't off anyone and who are known to tip terribly. So perhaps the guys have worked their magic and have figured out how to get the business and the money from the visiting Asian tourists just as they had from the farang before, or maybe the myth was never true, but nowadays we're all the same. That's not to say that there aren't some visiting Asian tourists who don't pay. Of course that's true. Just as there are some visiting farang who don't. But right now the Asian tourist are a crucial customer base helping to keep the bars going.

So it looks like the BKK chinatown celebrations canceled. http://www.nationmultimedia.com/news/national/30304755 The decorations have been up in Soi Twilight for a few days. I am sure there will still be a festive spirit there. Also the tourism festival in Lumpini Park is on again this year from jan 25th-28th. (I think it runs from about 5:00 pm to 11:00 pm?). last couple of years have been very fun. Can be a nice chance to do something with barboy friends before they start work...

the straight one is on Patpong 2 closer to Silom Personally not aware of one in BKK, but that doesn't mean anything. I think BBB Inn has a party room with a sling, so i suppose you could organize a party there on your own. If you do try to do that, please do try to video when you are explaining to the boys what you want. Priceless

you only mention that he would not have to pay for food or accommodation. Not sure many guys here would want to or could take three weeks off work or school unpaid just to be the travel companion of some stranger for free. And the destinations, although a nice trip for you, aren't all that exotic for them. There may of course be any number of guys who will do it for daily per diem. It's their job. Even then, three weeks with a stranger seems like a bad idea for all concerned. Better to show up a few days early and try to meet a compatible companion.

example of why i continue to believe that christinanpfc is the most interesting multi-layered participant on this board... (and that's not to say that i happen to agree with every layer). I also firmly believe that in 150 years a graduate student at Columbia University will rely on his blog to write her doctoral thesis: "Christianpfc: Chronicler of the Gay Subculture in SE Asia at the Start of the 21st Century."

i think if the op likes the boy and enjoys his company he is free to make the decision to bring the boy with him without criticism.

Yes they can get jealous, even when they know it's all about the money. It's easy and fun to travel with one of the guys. I frequently do. As long as you're clear ahead of time about what your expecting, I say go for it! Most likely everything will be fine. An episode of drama -- that's just part of the package of hanging out with bar boys, bound to happen to you at some point soon, if not already.