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In July and December (not sure about April) there were baskets with 5 or 6 pingpong balls there. BBB sold them for 100 baht per basket, customers threw balls to boys, some boys collected the balls and later exchanged for money: 10 baht for a ball. Some boys were keen to collect, and some stayed still demonstrating that 10 baht prize is too small to move... Actually, no bad idea - there is nothing to do in a bar and this can bring some activity and chance to see the boys from different angles and interacting - but I prefer the bar returning the whole ball price to the boys. It brings more fun, so customers should appreciate it.

Wow, looks like another great discussion on average market price Actually, I was asking details about a very particular upscale gogo in Pattaya. Thanx for useful comments

The problem is there were different waiters who tried to give me receipts with this inflated off price. And two times - without had spoken with the boy firstly (at least, it looked like). So to the 4th off I got some doubts - maybe BBB really implied over-priced offs for some boys? And this boy looks to be quite popular with Asian clientele... Anyway, thanx for your opinions

"Where are you from" + "where do you stay" = how big is your wallet "How long is you here" = how much can I get from it ))

Can tell only for myself - the said guy is a Hero quality guy: 173/71 muscled hunk turned 29 in March. If I pay almost 3000 for 2 hours in Hero, I see 3000 for a night as a fair price (of course, I would have liked 2000 or 2500 ) For this first 4000 in December - that was his proposal in the bar, I replied with 3000 and later decided we agreed on 3500. But in the morning the guy kept saying politely "4000" and actually during the night he was so superior to my July's off from same BBB (bodybuilder quality as well, 2500) - so I added 500 more. With thoughts to shift it to 3000 next time.

I just never heard "coyote" regarding to a gogo bar (not a disco) - just ordinary gogo boys (employees) and freelancers... The first really have obligation to come each day (or to pay a fine) and a number of offs per month. Yes, it could be that the boy moved from freelance terms in 2015 to a full employment in 2016 - he looks like a quite popular boy with a great body. Perhaps, the bar pays more if a boy stays until the show - to attract clients - you are right, - and less if a boy is offed before the show. So "my" guy decided to compensate his losses for being offed before the show from me (and yet - he took something from these 300 baht I gave him before handing the money over to a manager ) I don't remember how much I paid in July 2015 for an off in BBB - 400 or 500. But in December it was 500 baht and they were quick enough to bring a drink for the guy too.

Yes, your feelings are quite correct Just for statistics: in April it was [3500 + Armani Code Sport + teddy bear] for the first day and 3000 for laters For ToyBoys it was 1500 for a guy for a short time (and 400 for the bar. First two times there was no their Korean manager/owner, and later he returned - did not look upset when I was taking a guy without entering inside)

Guys, I have a question on off-fee structure at BoyzBoyzBoyz in Pattaya - maybe someone can help to clarify this? I spent a week in Pattaya in the early April and offed from BBB the same guy four times. From the first day the guy started telling me, that the off fee is 1000 baht before the show and 500 baht after. We are connected at Line and I wanted to go to the cinema - so suggest him to take him from the bar around 20:00. The guy suggested to go to the cinema during the daytime and then he go to his bar and I can come to the bar after the show and off him. But I stay at Jomtien and it sounds a bit complicated, so I just came to the BBB before show, had asked a tout about the off price (500 baht), then went inside and met the guy - he had a couple of the words in Thai with a captain and repeated this "1000 before show" statement. I thought "bullshit", but said "very well, but I pay 500". After some discussion I paid 500 to the bar and 100 to the captain and we went out. No drinks as I knew the guy and did not want to sit inside the bar. First time I offed this guy in December (500 and it was before the show), that time he asked for 4000 for overnight - a bit pricy, but proved to be a great night (because of this I knew certainly who I wanted in BBB). So I decided this "1000 baht" idea was just another way to get more money from me. But that was the case for the whole week - the guy kept telling me "I pay to the bar these second 500 baht by myself next day, when I come to work". I tried to mention to him that I was not the 1st or 2nd time in Thailand and particularly I had been to BBB about 5 times before meeting him in December - so I know things a little bit (he has been working there since August-September 2015). For the 3rd off another waiter - before talking to the guy - gave me a receipt for 800 (yes, not 1000 baht). I said "500" and finally paid 500 again. Of course, I mentioned "not 1000 now?" - my guy explained, that the bosses decided for 800 now, not for 1000 For the 4th off I prepared 300 baht in different pocket. This time all was the same - they quoted 800, I contradicted with 500. But there was a higher manager there as well - he came to us and said about 800 as the off-fee before 23:00. My guy repeated about keeping returning money to the bar at next day by himself - so I gave him these 300 (3*100 baht), he took something from it (100?) and gave the rest to the manager. The manager said something about this guy being a coyote now comparing with December (coyotes in BBB?!) and something about his salary... Are they tried to get a missing drink price (500+300) from me or something else? They try to save more guys until the show? In the same trip I took two guys from the entrance to ToyBoys (without going inside, ToyBoys is famous for having more muscled guys as touts than boys inside) - all 3 times there was no a smallest attempt to add a drink price to their 400 baht off-fee... Would be great to hear your opinions on this

We seem to have a lot of members here that have been members for many days talking other members what to do. Anyone who does not feel the other members' behavior is sufficient should just terminate their membership and look elsewhere for the information.

Thanx for the report What is your impression about the number of boys in BBB? A week ago I saw a full stage and two last days (Wed and Thu) just 8-10 boys... Or maybe I was in the bar too early?

That's European calendar system - it was 5th November 2016, actually. And now it's 4th April 2017

So, Pattaya, AIS shop at the basement floor, cash-machine (anti-ATM): - feeded it with 20s, got a month of validity period for each 20, - then, put inside a 50 banknote and made 2 transaction by 20 baht each (2 months more), - but could not have done anything with remaining 10 baht, - today put inside two more 20s and to my surprise saw "10 baht credit" from yesterday, - added 10 baht in coins and got another 20 and another month of validity. So it's 12 months of validity at my SIM. Thanx for advice

Looks like it was this particular boy idea - wanted to get additional 500 baht... Have asked a waiter before entering - 500 baht, no more

One of BBB boys told me, that off fee is 1000 baht before the show, and only after is 500. Have anybody heard the same?

regarding 1-2-call, Suvanabum, April: - AIS shop at 3 floor: I've tried 20 and was told "50 baht minimum", - Family Mart: 50 baht scratch cards - 7/11 at the train floor: I was told 50, 100, etc (didn't top up there, as already got enough money for an Internet option).

I like the glass between a bed and the shower in V7 - quite a nice show Vip-room in Hero could easily accommodate 8 hands fun, I think

Hahaha, not only you, Moses Khun Schengener Staaten is here

You need this red square 20 baht from Nana BTS by a motocy, he will know where Hero is

#2, 3 and 5

Thanks for info, Christian. Was it BKK with these 300 baht top-ups or PTT?

(yep, it's double yy) A new romantic Thai movie, don't look for logic, but look for nice bodies Some actors from Love Sick series (finally shirtless!) The song for a quick preview: There is the full movie at Youtube as well, but no English sub yet. Although you can find it at gay-torents.net with English subs.

Hmm, it's so fire -- "In other words who cares what he says." -- actually, could be told about any forum participant... And anyone is entitled to have his own opinion. Not sure why all this fuss about GAP -- although in Thailand it's a more status brand than in USA, I checked this particular GAP shop few times thinking to buy something as a present for the guy for about 500 baht -- did not find anything interesting. But anyway -- what's the difference? Could be 2 things for 700 baht and 1 more for "forget" baht... It doesn't matter to the story. And the stories are interesting and entertaining - that's the main thing

News - why not? I think, it was not more as in the song translation "she loves him", "he loves her" - just the main topic/idea of the report. GAP - yes, I had a temptation to re-ask "surely 700 baht for a shirt, pants and underwear in GAP? Looks like unbelievable deal" but after a while just decided Numazu could just misremember something about certain prices - not a big deal...

More and more romantic...