1moRussian

Eventually I believed that 800 baht is the off fee for "coyote" dancers, when they are offed before 11 PM. Although all could be discussed... PS I saw these dragon dances video at FB of one of the said 800-baht coyote star

And no gogo clubs in Jomtien Complex, although a plenty of beer bars and some massage shops

But I don't recommend visit Russia with such intentions now

Thanx Vinapu, it didn't come to my mind But still would be nice if someone who can read Thai could confirm, please? (Or maybe he is warning me, that 2017 could be unlucky to me, if I will not use Western Union to transfer some money to Thailand soon? 555)

Thanx for detailed explanation, Christian And may I ask for one more? Got this today from my ex-bf, I suspect it is something like "send this to 9 people and happiness will find you"

I knew, you will like the photo The name is 'bpakor(n)', if I am correct in reading

Nice story, Ggobkk, thanx for sharing - it's a ready script for TV episode and unique experience - you didn't plan to visit Vietnamese embassy during that trip, I suppose? And looks like Van was successful in making the day end memorable

I happen to be subscribed to King Spa's Line channel (although never been there) - some new workforce for spicing the trend

Perhaps, video recording would be nice, so we can catch all the details including tones and will not be confused by different transliteration

So Christian could find a job, where his knowledge of Thai language and customs would be an advantage instead of trying to fit in rigid corporate system... Perhaps, he already doing such kind of projects and earns some income not being tied by corporate world. And I wish him luck Regarding laziness - I think, we have different connotations and moral feelings about this word. Yes, for me most my Thai contacts are certainly 'lazy' (and I am a Russian, who have this laziness feature by Western eyes), but for these my Thai contacts it could be just 'sabai-sabai'... You have warm weather, a lot of fruits, two times per year you need to work hard to plant and harvest rice, but all other months you can just doing nothing... Why you should be worried about your rent due in 10 days? That is not now, just enjoy the moment, sabai- sabai

'Nam rak' is very romantic indeed

It's 'nahm' too? As 'water'? Funny... but why not 'nam pu chai'?

Yep, Anddy and Ryanasia, could you guys already give Thai writing for those words as well? Would be useful, ครับ

Friend of mine (kind of ex-bf), a beach massage guy, always telling me "No customers, not same as before, no business". Another friend, a farang gay guesthouse manager, always sounds different "Very good, we are fully booked" (the guesthouse is located 300 m from the beach with "no customers"). So at the second time, after listening these 2 contradicting statements, I decided to sum up them both and divide at 2. To get a real average Jason1975: there are good chances that the boy was trying to sell you sad stories to maximize his cash inflow. Although tips instead of second or third drink are much appreciated. As a small addition - it could attract evil ghosts, telling people how good your business is. And Thai ghosts are really evil. DivineMadman: are you sure, they don't get a fraction from the off fee? Just asking, because I am not sure (or it could depend on a particular bar / salary agreement). My experience here is from Pattaya, but in 2012 during long repeated offs from Copa bar, when we came inside to pay the off fee the guy was getting a fraction from the money I paid to the bar. Again this April with the inflated off fee case in BBB (the guy and bar insisted that his off was already 800 as a coyote and I repeatedly paid 500 - the same as four months before in December-2015). When at 4th day I gave money to the boy to pay his off, he took a 100 baht note before handing the money over to a manager. So I think boys might get some from off fees - as a fraction or as a part of their salary scheme... But it's just my guess.

Great report and special thanks for the photos!

Drink prices, off fees and other info on some places you could find here: http://www.gaythailand.com/forums/forum/35-gay-thailand-businesses/

As I saw, fresh and bbboy use heavily photoshopped pics. And many freelancers just use not their own pics, mostly of Thai and Vietnamese models. Are there any good tactics to deal with it?

While I think it's a good thing to keep your promises (or at least to inform other people that you've decided to quit), just as an intercultural observation: isn't it Thais, who prefer not to answer Line messages? To avoid any smallest open contradiction? As I have learnt, such non-answering means "no" in Thailand. Thus such non-answering should have a very clear meaning of "no" in Thai social communication system, shouldn't it? (I am not trying to take any side, just exploring Thai ways of thinking) Or because the promise was made by a farang (and we all know: farang people are strange people and they do unexpected things) and the promise is so miraculous, so conventional rule "non-answering = no" stops working in this case?

Your currency is doing quite well, comparing to our's

Yep, two arrivals that year to Don Muang - the same picture

Not sure what is a point in commenting a fact descriptive post regarding a certain bar with general behavioral advice. Departure to BBB with already existed targets/regulars there indicates I am quite aware about Pattaya's stage.. But is up to you, of course. Continue with A-bomb: next day, 22:00 only, the tout promises "today many boys and many customers inside" - and actually he is correct, but only 4 boys left at the stage, about 4 were sitting with customers, and manager was tipsy and happy No signs of those 2 interesting boys from yesterday, but perhaps they were sitting with customers. So it's "hit or miss"

Checked A-bomb yesterday: 23:30 - 6 well built guys at the stage + 1 beyond the stage + 2 with their customers (one pair left soon, one is drinking a bottle of whiskey). I can off 1 boy from the stage (but he is not "both") and perhaps, that one beyond the stage. Supportive, but not pushy manager. Coke 200 baht. Left to BBB (because had some targets there).

Me too. So know I just ask them at the Soi - if he is willing to go with me and pay the off fee without going inside

Watch this cover: https://m.youtube.com/watch?ebc=ANyPxKpMgq0qNBHXxr_uLnC3IyvzJMdOwHkK4nf3XC0nfaRjh4mjUlxWxE4lx8fZNe7lcp_7l2wEU9sINoGWEpVqGBs6MQHxGQ&v=OsZu7jTZpvo

Oh, I have only one target there As for now. Although, after getting there, the target could multiply