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thanks for the report by the way, the condo looks like Gallery - am I correct? and the second question - one of the pictures from J'd has "Hi cool" in the name field. I've read that could be an indication that the boy is willing to consume some particular stuff - so I skip accounts with "hi, high, cool". What do you think on it?

not sure bars actually have their own rooms, as I understand they mostly have agreements with nearby hotels...

yep, this is the hero of my non-Hero posts I was practicing "taking care"

Starts from 800 baht: simple frame, lenses, testing. Finally paid 950 baht: +150 for "special" computer coating lenses No way in Moscow you can get "special coating" for 150 baht only! All "specials" are more expensive. Although "frame + lenses" starts from about 800 bahts too... (Could not put a PNG.photo in portrait format - the board engine makes it in landscape format. Any advice?)

And even 32 yo for some special cases

Brief info about Scandic: - staff sitting outside, - 2200 baht for 2 hours totally, - all paid before massage, - I think, 1700 for 1,5 hours, - 2 common showers, - small cubicles. My 2 hours were done in 50 minutes - the guy speaks very limited English and seems to me, all clients take these 1,5 hours - so perhaps he had not understood my discussion with a manager regarding unusual 2 hours ("maybe the managers just was able to get more money from this farang"). Massage was so-so, extras the same. Asked for additional tips and suggested to go with me to the Castro bar - I declined - no repeating attempts. So recommend only if you see a guy and decide that you really need him or just testing deferent massage shops (that was the case - a day before I had seen the guy at a street firstly and after it saw him at Scandic, so decided to try him next day).

Thanx for recommendation Try "One million way to die in the West". Saw it last week - I liked it. My Thai friend liked it too.

Mmm, and my 2 cents: - I've got ... No massage (but got a question about the massage from a manager and "sorry, he is a new guy, sorry", - but extras were... EXTRAS! )) (Have found him at J'd - offered an overnight - we will see)

Sometimes good, sometimes bad... He got 10k baht in the first day as a present. And some presents from Russia too )

Just for the records: - of course, said guy did not come on 30th to Bangkok, - I've called him today (31st), he said "maybe come today, but so busy at my home before Finland, so busy..." - I understand it means "will not come". But the most funny thing - he called 2 minutes later and ask, if I can send him money for his telephone, as the nearest 7/11 in 8 km from his home... So, the final - the same sad story, although the guy is not a bar boy. (Calming myself with pedicure at Pantip in MBK )

Yes, I meant to write a comment to Vinapu about muscle boys entered to BoysBoysBoys while I was sitting at Castro bar opposite. There were some really good. But after a while I realized, that half of them where just local hip hop dancers - they performed later. And certainly, Boyztown has more well built boys than Sunee Plaza.

So, a couple of the words about Xboys: I was there yesterday, about 18 boys, about 20 guest before 22 o'clock show. No stunners at the stage and 4-5 I can think to off. Chang beer costed me 260 baht. I just drank a bottle and tipped the boy, I have known from July 2013. Escaped before show. And yes, 2 days ago I saw a boy from XboysLand sitting in front of Xboys - so the staff should have moved there. Could not confirm mamasans - set there just 10 minutes.

Thai girlfriend?

That the second part of the story He do go to Finland. I know the flight time on 4th August - he said me a month ago. Last week he named the place in Finland. And now, I know that it happens to be a native place of a farang-friend of him - so this farang perhaps help him with visa or, maybe, the boy just goes visiting this farang and working too. Maybe, this Finish person is a member of the forum too - so, it could be interesting subject to discuss "how to share a boy"

So, to continue the story: All last 3 days I was going to write "of course, this guy is different" Different because: - he is not a bar boy, he is beach massage boy, - when I met him there was no "u r a good man, I lub u" (although, of corse, I waited an offer to continue massage in my room - as some massageurs offer, - did not get such the offer from him), - his clothes and shoes were so old - seems no farang money around at all, - he refused to take money, when we 1st time go outside Pattaya for a day of sightseeing (I understood, he makes living by massage at the beach, so I just offer to compensate him payments he missed that day), - he was quite nervous when he first time asked me for money to pay a room rent, - and for this Korat un-visiting thing: he is going to work in Finland on 4th August - so, from one hand it is understandable that he is busy at his home and farm, so he would not have time to take care about me. These all I was going to write, why I thought "he is different". Why he is not so different - I will write a bit latter, after swimming nit noi in the see.

Thanx, Abang I am still here - I think, till 30/07, - but tomorrow my brother with his wife come here. I think, I will be guiding them

First time - it was November of 2012 - I just needed vacations and have some paper work, that I could do anywhere. So I spent a month here in Pattaya. My additional excuse was 2 sisters of one my good friend from my native town - they moved to Thailand with their children. Although, they lived in Phuket actually It's the 6th trip to Thailand and I still use this excuse (but these 2 sisters have return to Russia actually). And this time I made a whole thing of getting upgrade to gold status in Qatarairways loyalty programme. I hope, my coworkers got used to my trips to Thailand. However, once I told them "I go to my native city" (it is Souther than Moscow, so my tanned skin was OK). Anyway, I always try to mention Bangkok and say that Pattaya has it all - if you want sex scene you should go to the center, but Northern and Southern Pattaya are full of retired family people with their grandchildren. Moreover, Thailand (and Turkey and Egypt) are visa-free for Russians - it helps a little bit too. Russia has quite short hot sea coast, so these three countries are popular sea destinations. The question is with my mother... I was thinking to introduce my Thai friend (that is the "advice on Korat trip" trend), but now I am not so sure.

No, guys, I just know, that I should/could move on. My mind knows it, but my heart cries and weeps Of course, I read some farang-Thai literature. Not sure about this forum, but at Russian Thai forums (straight) people appreciate "Private Dancer" novel. It's about a sad farang-thai love story - with extended Thai family and Thai husbands who were presented to farangs as brothers and so on. So from one hand I was prepared, from the other - I told (and seems to me, still tell) myself "it is not my case, my friend is different"... Perhaps, not so much different, but same same. Still hope to see him at Bangkok on 30/07 - that was the plan. The question is "how to move these relations to more cynical/selfish way?". That was the idea year ago - just to have nice vacation romance, when the both sides know that it is just a nice vacation illusion. I was not going to fall in love with a Thai. And finally fell.

Looks like no Karat trip this time And I was totally forbidden to see my friend boarding a bus to Korat today. Seems like he was not alone... Seems like one more sad love story... But it looked as a happy story one year ago From the other hand, thus I am free for boyztown

Thanx, Christian Sleep pattern is the opposite: I can sleep late and he is an early bird

Underwater world, NongNooch Garden, Chinese museum / temple, Thai temple nearby, View point with Thai and Chinese temples Massage shops in Boyztown and Jomtien Complex work during daytime; real massage as well (I mean, no happy ending)

Bangkok Saw really sexy muscle twink in Hero in May, but had made an appointment with the other massager already

Thanks for your kind advice Have checked some hotels already and yes, I am thinking to stay in a hotel. Not sure about the city canal with boys this time more sure about the zoo - as I understand his home a bit souther the zoo. No father in this case, just mother (as I am aware). Although I am not certain if I go - it was "I want you to go with me to my home too" in September and no repeating of such words later. I just wrote "Good. I will go to Korat with you", when he informed me, he would go home from Pattaya on 25 July it's a little bit adventures, we will see...

will appreciate your advice on budget and nice accommodation in Korat / Nakhon Ratchasima. Any trip reports? What to do for 2-3 days? Can face trip to Korat on 25-30 July - as always, unclear farang-thai story not sure I want to stay at his home and be presented to his mother and local friends / and not sure he wants me to stay at his home and be presented to... But it would be interesting to see something beyond Pattaya and Bangkok.

You should check Xboys and Xboysland as well, not only A-bomb Although I agree now, that BKK is better for muscle bodies search