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Great experiences! I hope to be back for the month of June or July. It was especially cool that you had those experiences in Cairo which are harder to cum by than in Luxor or Aswan!

I started posting again solely to get access to the other forums AND especially to read @numazu. I began at Hooboy’s site, moved here when Brazil’s Minister of Sex Tourism (TomCal) started posting here and the old gay Brazil site, and then Numazu keeps me here. Superb job with the writing!!!

You need only look at the guy’s free Twitter account to see the size. It’s like a freakin baseball bat!

That’s a good reminder, especially for those first time travelers. I could mention my two most previous experiences to show some of the change: If you look on google maps, you can see Banana Island along with photos. My normal experiences in years past allowed me to have sex there two ways: first, I would take one of the boats from the east side of the Nile and go to the island alone. At the island are two cafes, three little farm display areas, a Banana grove farm area, a few private farm areas. and this funky fort structure. I would sit at the cafe, have a drink, pretend to read a book, and then eye some of the boat captains. We could go to the banana grove to do the deed. Sometimes the farm boys would also smile and do something for money. Well, my last visit last year had no action there and just old men and old women on the island. The old marina guy that has been there for 20 years told me that the young guys have to either joined the military for money or travel north for work. Now I did find another way this most recent stay: during the day you can go to one of the three private marina dock areas on the East bank. This is where you have the sexy guys acting as gay bait to get you to book a boat where an old man will suddenly appear as the driver. So, I found a really sexy boy at the entrance and told him I wanted to go to the the Island with HIM and ONLY him. He agreed. We went to the small boat with outboard motor. The old man suddenly appeared and I quickly said no and exited the boat. Then the young guy talked to the old man and the young boy alone took me to the island. There we enjoyed sex in the grove, a little snack, then another round of sex. The Island wasn’t very active, but I had found a way. On our way back we saw the Egyptian marine police that began to stop our boat. The boy asked me for 100 pounds (6 USD) and I quickly gave it to him. The police asked him a few questions and he said he had taken me to the Island for tourism. The boy gave them his ID with the money. They gave the ID back without the money and let us go. Come to find out, a permit license is required to ferry people so the money sufficed as a little gift. We went to the Island two other times with no problem. Thus, if you find no action on the Island itself, you can use it as a place during the day for sex if you can just make sure the sexy guy is actually the one to go with you. In days past that place was so crowded I remember every banana plant seemed to have westerners having sex with a guy. Alas, times have changed so we old men must adjust our tactics!!!!

Dear Lord, Baska! That was a sexy story! I can just pictured the riding!

ForestReid, What a great story! Its like the old image of making lemonade out of lemons! You were right to be a bit concerned about the south side of Omonia Square. Whilst I was there, the police were regularly making arrests on that side for drug dealing. The boys told me that the drugs are on the south side and the sex on the north side. You do raise an interesting point, though. In all my years of travelling there, I only met three genuinely Greek guys at Omonia, the Theatre, Zappeion, Pedion, the bars, and Victoria. Most of the sex there was from foreigners. Maybe others have had better luck with Greeks in those places. In my experience, the apps are far better for meeting those sexy Greeks and they usually command a slightly higher price for their services as well. Nonetheless, I found the Greeks on offer willing to do far more with far more passion! Maybe it’s just part of their ancient gay heritage passed down!

My experience with muscle guy/body builders has been somewhat similar. The ones in the Massage places are straight. They will let you suck them and will sometimes give a hand job for Extra Service. About half will sometimes fuck you. I only experienced few guys who would kiss in all my years going to massage places in the Philippines. The same guys off of Grindr and Planet Romeo/Hunqs can offer much more expanded service. I was keyed into this when I was told by a local Pinoy with the same fetish to be VERY specific in your profile about what you want (without being too specific on the money part since that will usually get you banned). When you then do an initial meet or video chat, be very specific in that private conversation about how much you will pay and what the expectations are for the meet. I did this and had great success with these guys who were also great kissers. About half spoke good English because they learned it in school and tv. The others (mostly the ones from the provinces or rural areas living n the city now) were very limited in speaking only Tagalog. Now, there are downfalls. I noticed that many of these type of guys use photos that were 5-10 years earlier than their present age. They will certainly show the muscle from the neck down, but then not show the rather older face. As an example, I met up with one guy at Starbucks in Manila. I told him ahead of time that we could meet, have a coffee, and then decide if both of us still wanted to do the deed. When we met, the guy was incredible. He was also, though, in his late 30’s and not the 23-year-old he advertised. I told him that I would take a pass, offered him 500 pesos for his transportation costs, and suggested he not lie about his age in the future. He then told me about he and his friends’ dilemma. He said they all have to do this at the end of the month for rent and gym fees. He said that old men from around the world are constantly messaging them and like to only not talk (as they now say “no talk shit” in their profiles) but they never actually show up in the Philippines for a meet. They also get lots of old men claiming they are in the Philippines but not actually there (they now say “no posers” in their profiles). As a result, he and his friends rarely chat with foreigners other than to see if they are presently in the Philippines. If they are, then they try everything to meet because they want a long term sugar daddy/sponsor. He also said most of his work came from Growler, Grindr, Planet Romeo and a few by Scruff. They tried rentmen but the monthly fee was too costly for them. He then introduced me to a much younger body builder friend, so I paid the old man a “consultant fee”. There was one older (mid 30’s) body builder I DID want to try but we never got past a coffee because I had a work appointment afterwards. If any of you have been on the apps and searched the profiles, then you will know this guy because he has a great niche he serves. He writes in his profile that he has a specialty for older men who have erectile challenges, who want to learn to bottom, or ones wanting to experiment in their older age because they came out later in life. Now, I am not in that niche, but he was an incredibly pumped guy, an amazing personality, genuinely the most perfect set of teeth I had ever seen on a man, and normally worked on cruise ships. I don’t remember his profile name, but you will easily know him by his niche profile. I met him for coffee through another escort because the guy wanted some medical advice for one of his clients. Nothing like doing a medical consultation with an escort at Starbucks talking about sexual boundaries (what he and his client could do without the old man dying), preexisting conditions, all the while… I am thinking I really want this escort to pound ME! Good luck and report back!

Basks, You raise an interesting point. I have travelled twice to Egypt during Ramadan and actually experienced only limited problems. I saw about half of the small restaurants closed as there was no eating until sunset... and thus no need for them to remain open during the day. Mind you, there were still lots of places open to eat in the tourist areas. Similarly while some small historical sites closed up, it was also the case that the MAJOR tourist sites remained open. At the end of the day, they want AND need your tourist money... so many more will probably be open this year than in the past. As for the sex, that is harder to address. You can already see by the sheer number of guys letting you suck their dick (or them fucking you) that their Muslim religious sensibility is a bit... how shall we say... flexible! So, I found them just as horny and just as willing during Ramadan as other times for their dick to please me... both during the day and night. So, it is a tough call. If you set your expectations low and just go with the flow to get your feet wet for the first time in Egypt, then you will have a great time. The second trip will then be even better. If there are no plans to ever return to Egypt AND you can adjust your schedule, then you might want to do so such that you can get the maximum value/opportunities for that one trip to Egypt in your lifetime.

Frenchy, I stayed at both and had no problem bringing guys back. I usually met the guys at Starbucks and walked over, or else met them in front of the hotel and walked in with them. New Coast is closer to things, but that also means the noise of Pedro Gil can get annoying. I never just had them direct to my room until I met and checked them out first.

PART THREE: OMNIA SQUARE (red outline area on map below): This place is brimming with Middle Eastern young men for sex. This is a place you either love or hate (as our other reviews here have shown)!!!! The whole square is very seedy, but the area for sex is the northwestern part of Omonia. This is the part in front of and surrounding the Hondos department store. The Syrian, Iranian, and Iraqis are usually sitting/standing at the top of the tube escalator that empties in front of the juice bar Gregores (red circle). The escalator that empties in front of Hondos (and the elevator area) usually has the Greeks and eastern Europeans (red circle). As you face Hondos, the side pedestrian street on the left side is filled with Afgans and Pakistanis. The same can be found on the right side of Hondos on the side walk. It is also the case that if you cross the street to your east you will find several outdoor cafes. One of them, whose name escapes me, you will find has old gay men sitting with their young male companions. I usually frequent the outdoor café/restaurant right in front of Hondos where I can sit and watch the boys on offer (dotted red on map). When I arrive at Omonia I usually take a complete walk around the Hondos center and then spend a few minutes seeing what is available by standing at the top of one of the two escalators. Now there is a nearby police station, so do not be so stupid as to do business in public. As to where you can go for sex, that is rather easy. All the boys will know that there are three possible sex hotels from which to choose. One is one block to the west (the one I prefer), there is one next to the Kosmopolit cinema, and then one more one block east of that. So, for those not familiar… once you negotiate what you want with the boy and how much to pay, you then proceed to the hotel. Just tells the boys to show you the hotel. You will probably pass a number of female prostitutes along the way who also use these hotels. Once you get to the hotel, you approach the clerk and hand over 5-10 euros depending on which hotel you go to. No id is required. I do this with one swift motion as I hand the 5 euro with my right hand whilst my feet continue to move to the elevator with the boy. It is usually the second floor if you choose the hotel west of Omonia, but that changes over time. The boy will know the floor. Once you get off the elevator, you will be in a hallway with about 10 rooms. There will probably be one or two couples (gay and straight with prostitutes) waiting ahead of you for a room. Once a room is clean, the maid will motion for you and you enter the room. It has a bed with one fitted sheet on top, tv with porn, a bathroom, two towels, and usually a condom. You have between 30-40 minutes until the maid will bang on your door. Most of the Syrians were especially phenomenal kissers and fuckers. Often they would also ask if I would fuck them as well. Interestingly to me, the Afgans always liked to get fucked and kiss. My usual deal was 25 euro for the boy and 5 euro for the room. I have found it safe 99.9% of the time and only had one problem. I once got a boy back to the room and he stripped. I then looked and noticed he had a small discharge from his penis even before it got hard. It was clear he had gonorrhea or chlamydia , so I used google translate to tell him how to get some medical care. A friend of mine DID have one problem when a guy could not get hard to fuck him, so he paid the guy only 10. The guy went ballistic and would not allow my friend to leave until he paid more. My friend then started yelling for the maid who started banging on the door. The boy had to relent and my friend left. I never had problems and had some amazing repeat business with these boys. Most of these boys ALSO show up a few hours later at Victoria Park where they are also available for more sex. TYPICAL DAY: I would begin the morning with work. Around 11:30 am I would take a nice walk to Omonia Square to see if there was a young male appetizer I might enjoy. I would walk completely around Hondos Center and then stand for a while at the top of the two escalators. I would always find someone. After going to the nearby hotel for sex, I would return and settle down at one of the cafes for lunch…usually the one right in front of the Hondos Center. During my time I would regularly make eye contact with another young man and invite him over for lunch. After lunch he and I would go to the sex hotel for some fun. I would then walk back to my place to freshen up and take an afternoon nap. Afterwards, I would walk over to Pedion Park for an afternoon to sample one of the guys there. Then, I would walk back to Omonia for some theatre action where I would always find one or two guys to my liking. After some sex, I would leave and have a coffee and enjoy one of those amazing Greek rice curd desserts they have. I would then return to the theater for one more round. After this I would walk up to Omonia Square and see what was on offer. I would always take at least one guy to the sex hotel for some fun, sometimes two. Afterwards, I would make my way to Victoria Park. They have some nice caffes with outdoor seating right off the top of the tube escalator that are perfect for eating dinner and watching boys. If I did not catch the eye of anyone special, then I would check Grindr or PlanetRomeo to see what was on offer. As was almost always the case, I would find someone in Victoria Park to take back to my place for a late-night snack. I would generally repeat this pattern, but add the two bars especially on Friday/Saturday nights when new guys would appear. For those not yet familiar with these areas, then simply use the street view of google maps and you can see pretty much everything that I noted above. Good luck and be sure to report back on your visits!

PART TWO: BARS: Test Me and Sammi’s both have middle eastern hustlers for sex. You can find their addresses online. Most of the guys that come to the gay bars for paid sex also come to Victoria Park. As a result, what might cost you 75-150 euro as take away from a bar will be 30-50 euro at the park. It is worth a visit, though, just to support these businesses that cater to us gays. THEATRES/BOOK STORES: There are three theatres and four books stores that I visited where you can find their addresses yourself online. They rarely have guys available for paid sex, but mostly for free sex with other gays. When they did have hustlers, but their number usually ranged from none to 2 or 3. The Athinaikon is the one most often listed, but I usually considered it a waste of my time because men rarely went there to find the paid sex. This is because everyone in Athens knows where to go for the paid sex in a theatre: Kosmopolit Cinema (Marikas Kotopouli). The theatre is located right next to and north of the Hotel Cosmopolit, which is itself just one block north of Omonia Square. It is the red X on the map. When you walk in, be sure to keep your ticket as you can re-enter one more time. I regularly had sex, went for a coffee, and then returned for some more sex. You will see guys in the park area in front of the hotel and theatre who are very eager for your take-away business as well. The guys will come and go into the theatre every few minutes. Once you get into the theatre, you will be hounded by guys in the back standing area even before you can have a seat. Find a seat and let your eyes get adjusted to the darkness. When you are ready, then its time to venture into the balcony or basement for the adventure. I would start with the balcony which can be accessed by the stairs to the left or right as you came into the entrance. That upper balcony area is where the young men will show their dicks and offer themselves. They will sit along the long side balcony aisles, as well as the main balcony. This is where you can negotiate to give them a blow job. However, the funky sex occurs in the basement. You should know… next to the theatres in the Philippines, I found this theatre to be one of the dirtiest and seediest places I have ever had sex. It is not, as they say, for the faint of heart! Thus, I loved it just because of the adventure! The basement area is accessed by steps on your right as you entered the main theatre section. It is a narrow set of steps that takes you down to this small open area where all the guys are smoking (and I mean LOTS of smoking!). They will check you out as you come down the steps and will quickly want to offer their services. Just walk around there to get your feel for the place. It has four bathroom stalls for blow job areas, a back area where it shows gay sex on a very small tv and has but six seats, a dark area off of that, and then two rooms where you can have more active sex. I usually sit myself down in one of those seats and start watching the movie and boys who are all now standing around trying to get my attention. If I like a guy, I then usually motion him to go with me into one of the two rooms where we can talk. The rooms have locks on them. I then negotiate for sex and compensation. I have seen/heard threesomes, twosomes, spanking, heavy pounding of anal sex, kissing, etc. come from those two rooms as I watch the gay porn. The only problem I have found is that guys will usually fake cumming (unless you say you only give a blow job) and say they will kiss with tongue and suddenly they will NOT once you start the sex. Those two rooms are the only real place there to have sex beyond a blow job. I should mention the rooms are nasty and rarely get cleaned. I would say there are three groups of guys at this place: Class A guys that are straight, immaculate, showered, would never take drugs, never smoke, and sexy as fuck. They come only to get one client for money so they can go out with their girlfriend later. They will let you suck them and they will fuck you. Class B guys are the ones who come for one or two clients and like to eat afterwards at a café. They are looking for long-term sugar daddies and usually operate in a pair with their friend. They will let you suck them, they will fuck you, and many kiss very well. Class Z guys are the drug addicts and you will see them also outside the theatre where they will typically turn 5-10 clients in a day for sex. They will do anything and everything if the price is right. Interestingly, most of the guys IN the theatre are from Bosnia, Romania, Albania, Macedonia, and Bulgaria. Prices here ranged from 25-50 euros depending on the deed negotiated, but they did have to pay for their ticket so I always footed another 5-10 euros to cover that. I met several of the class A guys that I later brought back to my place for extended sessions. PART THREE follows…

PART ONE: I have stayed in Athens over twenty times this past decade. These are my thoughts from both immediate pre-Covid and Covid visits last year: LOCATION TO STAY: This will depend on your plans for Athens. My first trip to Athens was with a tourist group many moons ago. I then transitioned to high end hotels as my work took me there regularly. Finally, over the past four years I have been trying various Airbnb apartments. I tried various locations, but have settled on a general area. I am not going to write where I stay now because I do not want competition for the place!!! I will just say that if sex is to be an important part of your stay in Athens, then apartments located between Omonia Square and north to Victoria Square can be ideal locations. Similarly, you can actually stay anywhere if you are near one of the metro/subway/tube lines. APPS: Grindr and PlanetRomeo (Hunqs) are very active. Just adjust your profile to express your desires and men will be messaging you. I also used Google translate for Greek in my profile to outline my hopes as well, since I always want to partake of the local Greek delights!!! Their prices ranged from 50-150 euro’s, with most settling from 75-100 euro’s. This is where your location near a tube station can be very important. You will also find that if you schedule your stay when it overlaps the end of a month when rent and payments are due for the boys, then you will have far more delights to sample from the apps. PARKS: I visited all the sites listed online but found these three to be regularly active. 1- Temple of Zeus and the National Garden (Zappeion): Much has been made on some sites about the danger of finding guys around these locations. Simply go during the daylight hours to familiarize yourself with the paths, so once you are there at night it will be less confusing. Now, there ARE some times where it is clear there are some dangerous drug addicts. What you find mostly are gays for free sex and maybe 3-5 young men for paid sex. The problem here is finding a location that is private, as you can be doing the deed and 10 men will suddenly appear to watch and/or participate. I found more of the paid guys to be located west near the Lord Byron statue and immediately north. In general, over the years I have found less and less paid sex guys here at all and almost always just gay for gay sex. 2-Pedion Park: While there is some gay-for-gay free sex here, it is almost entirely paid sex. Again, before you venture too much you need to go there during the day and walk the area. I would suggest you start from the big main entrance at Mavrommateon and Alexandras. If you attempt the entrance further north on Mavrommateo then you will be right in the middle of the drug encampment area. If you have never seen one of those, then walk near it ONLY once you are in the park so you can gaze on it from afar. Now the paid sex I found starts at the open circle area east of the Pedion tou Areaos. The entire park east of the Statue of Athena and this open Pedion circle area will be filled with guys walking to locate sex. I plop myself on one of the many benches that line that main walkway going east (see blue area on map). From there I just sit and watch to see who is and who is not available for sex. A guy will give you the eye, he can sit with you, and then you can negotiate. Remember that this is actually a family park with lots of dog walkers and kids. But, you will easily know that those old men walking in the side paths are there for one purpose only. I did see two instances of violence… one was an old gay man had been looking at his phone. He put the phone in his pocket but a young man approached him and BAMM hit him with his fist. He then reached into the old man’s pocket, got the phone, and took it. The second instance was an old man carrying a backpack. One guy approached to talk with the man to distract him, whilst a second guy came from behind and ripped the backpack off and ran. So, be cautious and aware. The price for sex here ranged from 25-50 euro and was generally done in one of the private areas of the park. I scouted out discreet locations my first day there so I knew where to go, but the boys will know places as well. These guys are ones that will let you suck them or they will fuck you. I visited in the afternoons and early evenings and have had good luck. I once visited late night right before the park closed, but security and police cars were checking out the area at that point. 3-Victoria Park: This small park is like a middle eastern sex buffet in the evening. Most of the guys come to hang out with their friends. However, there will be large portion that are available for take away sex. I usually sit myself at one of the benches and drink some water whilst watching the guys walk by. Within 10 minutes I will find someone to take back to my nearby Airbnb. It is very easy to see who is available. On my last visit, I saw a group of three young Syrian men who kept smiling at me. I chatted with them via gestures, offered to take each one separately to my Airbnb for a blow job, and then negotiated a price (25 euro each, plus a pack of cigarettes for each). Once I got each one alone, I was able to also see what else they might do. One agreed to fuck and passionately kiss. I then arranged for him as a regular even as his two other friends never knew. Most of the guys in the park are there late afternoon and evenings. PART TWO follows…

Baska, HAHAHAHA… well, you are certainly invited “to look for an adventure” on my “ass”, but I think there are far finer young men there that will suffice! Seriously, though, since I don’t know you, how often you have been to Egypt, or what you are planning to do whilst there, I can only offer what I might do to start the trip. Given the hour you arrive and given my age, I would be ready for bed. HOWEVER, I would also want to make sure I had every opportunity to sample the Egyptian morsels that might be available that night BEFORE I hit the bed. So, my plan of action might be something like this: When I arrive I am sure the hotel might have a van for me. I would dispense with that and choose to find a taxi or ride myself. There will typically be two kinds… the official taxi at the taxi stand, and the nice young men offering a private car just for you. Now the tour books say to stay FAR AWAY from the private dudes and you REALLY SHOULD if you are a novice to Egypt. Me?... well, I size up the attractiveness of the taxi drivers versus the private drivers. If there is a sexy taxi driver, then I negotiate a price and off we go. The same is for the private driver, although I have to be careful and mindful of safety. Once I am in the privacy of the car, the fun begins. You must always remember that the Egyptian wants to take you for EVERY euro or dollar or pound that you possess. Knowing that, and knowing that young Egyptian males are always horny, I must think of a way to “create the condition by which he will offer me his dick for money”. IF he asks if I am married (see my posts above about the marriage question), well, the fun has begun and the odds are in my favor. I have had a number of taxi drivers pull into a dark area and let me do the deed. If possible, I usually try to put my luggage in the back seat and always sit next to the driver in the front seat. That, obviously, means he can see my smile and my eyes as I speak with him about what he can offer to me for my money!!!! Sometimes that is just not possible. Now let’s say you negotiate a price, do the deed, and head to the hotel… you should remember that once you pay him, there is a 75% chance he will say it is not enough. Fear not, young padawan, he is hoping for this so just give him the money. He may throw up his hands in disgust and not take the money. Well, I just throw it at him when he tries that (AFTER I have retrieved my luggage). I usually pay for the taxi, the blow job, and a little tip. Now let’s say your drive to the hotel was uneventful and nothing happened. Well, given the hour, you next have a chance with the lowly bellhop who will be bored at that hour and pissed that he is working a shift where he cannot make money like the day and afternoon shifts. In that case, I strike up a conversation and give a smile from the very first moment the desk attendant gives the key to the bell boy. As we are in the elevator, I wait for him to ask if I am married. If he does not, then I gently ask him if he is married. From that conversation we see if I might have some action in the room. I always pray to all the Egyptian gods that I get a sexy bellhop because I have had some great times with them. Now if even that is uneventful, I then go to bed sad and wake up late. I shower/shave and tidy myself the next morning. I then peek out the door to see if a room attendant is already cleaning the room on the floor at the late hour I awoke. If they are and the person is a sexy male, well my quest begins anew. I then take my room key and go meet my floor attendant. I smile, say hello, show him my key, and then ask for an extra soap or shampoo. Remember…he wants my money!!!! I must “create the condition by which he will offer me his dick for money”. I then return to my room and if the door has one of those cleaning hanger things, then I turn it to show I want my room cleaned. I then proceed to get some work done until… BAMM… my door opens and in my sexy attendant comes to clean my room. I actually already have some money out on the table for him to see, as well as smile and tell him to not go away but go ahead and clean now while I work. Without being obtrusive, I find some way to make conversation with him. I am hoping he will ask for some money at the end. If he does then… BAMM… I am about to pounce on my prey. So, the key is to look for opportunities where his desire for your money, your desire for his dick, and privacy… all combine to make the odds in your favor. So, whilst there is no Aquarius or similar sauna precisely where escorts are sitting and waiting when you arrive, there are ways to start your trip to Egypt. Just be on the lookout for all the days that follow and remember they really want your money. If this is your first time, then I urge again that you be prudent and cautious until you get the lay of the land and the people. Good luck and be sure to report back here!

Frenchy, It depends on what you mean by comfort hotel. There are several hotels right on Pedro Gil Street in front of Robinson’s Mall that you can try. I usually stay in cheaper hotels that do NOT have security and won’t be surprised when I am with a young pinoy guy. On that Pedro Gil Street I have stayed at the higher end New Coast Hotel (when I have to also meet clients for work as well) down to the 3 stars Eurotel and Hotel Kimberly which allow me to walk in with my young man with no problem and no security. These last two are not great rooms and they only clean them when you tell them to do so, but they do not have security guards checking ID’s and offer a buffet breakfast with the room. When I book these cheap rooms, I then use the saved money to spend on my young man!!!! If by comfort hotel you mean a place just for sex, then the answer is probably yes but I don’t know. There are MANY girl KTV bars around that area and you can see the cheap hotels next to them. I would think one of those must be a sex hotel. I did not try them because I had my own room. Use google maps street view to take you around the area to get a feel for the place.

Somewhat! First, a number will use photos of themselves from 5-15 years before to look younger. Second, some will say in their profile “not me on DP”. The truly fake ones are less numerous now because it is easy to verify with a video chat. Rather than have my photo being passed around everywhere, I just use WhatsApp or Viber and tell them I wanna live chat for a moment. If they are fake, they then vanish! If I do call and they are not to my liking, I am direct with them. I do always block their number afterwards because they will try to recall later even if you told them you were not planning to meet. Most guys will actually progress really fast to get your number. They also get scammed pretty regularly from old men that just wanna talk and never meet. That is why you will see in their profile “no talk shit”.

Floridarob, There is truth to what you say. I found my pots of gold as well. You raise an interesting note about the circumcisions. I should say something about them for those that might make a first visit to the Philippines. There are a myriad of medical AND cultural techniques for how circumcisions are done today. The Philippines is an example of where the type of circumcision you have can tell you a great deal about where a person comes from and in what social class he comes from. It used to be the case that most circumcisions were done there when a boy was a bit older (8-14). You can read about it at this wiki article on that Pinoy tradition known as tuli. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuli_(rite) When I did my first clinical rotation through pediatrics in Boston many moons ago, I remember seeing the after effects of a Pinoy circumcision for the first time. It looked as though that boy’s penis had been placed through a meat grinder and then surgically repaired. I was horrified, but my attending was Pinoy and enlightened me on this tradition for the first time… and, what I was seeing WAS a badly done “tuli”. This was a result of a inexperienced practitioner in some rural area that had cared little for a proper cut of the foreskin or the treatment of the wound afterwards. This young patient would have a badly scarred penis for the rest of his life. Fast forward to ten years ago when I was asked to assist at a Tuli in a rural region north of Cebu City. When I arrived, I noted that there were already 5 tuli practitioners there and none had any medical training. They generally practiced the Albularyo method and used a piece of sharpened wood (thankfully, government clinics now use sterilized equipment and now generally use medical practitioners). After getting over the horror of the event, I talked with one practitioner at the end of the day who lamented that twenty years prior he would have had over 100 tuli’s to perform just by himself in this day-long event. That day, however, he had only 6 boys present for the circumcisions. It is the case that most urban or the middle/upper class pinoys now choose to have their son’s circumcision done by a medical doctor in hospital after birth. Some still arrange for the circumcision to be done later when a boy is older, but again by medical doctors. These circumcisions generally (although not always) remove the entire foreskin. What forms is what we in the West might call a normal circumcision scar. Thus, if you are with a Pinoy man for sex and his erect penis looks like a normal western scar, then that often tells you something about his family’s income level or the region he came from. For those in Pinoy rural (or “province”) areas and the lower class, they generally wait for the summer tuli events sponsored by the government where the dorsal slit is the normal method. This is where a single cut is made on the foreskin, but the foreskin is not actually removed. As a result, the skin sorta bunches together below the glans. Over the years, this skin can become slightly darker in color. As a result of all this, pinoys traditionally have a penis whose skin looks quite different from most other asians or most other western circumcisions… it is a mark of manhood. This is why pinoys often refer to this as a cultural circumcision rather than a medical circumcision. Aside from the ethical issues of circumcision, there is another aspect I had not encountered until a few years ago. I had met a young man via grindr at my hotel. We were kissing and his sucking was exemplary. I then started to pull down his underwear and he stopped me suddenly. He then said, incredibly apologetically, that he was uncut. I was like… OK, I like uncut dicks on sexy boys as well. After the sex, he then proceeds to apologize to me again for being uncut. The shame this boy was expressing was so sad… AND… part of the culture where boys that do NOT have their tuli, are often shammed in school and amongst friends. They are not true Phillipino men unless they have their tuli. In fact, there is a word in Tagalog... “supot” that means “an uncircumcised male and denotes weakness, inferiority and even lack of hygiene”. They will never even list on Grindr or Planetromeo that they are uncut lest it lessen their prospects. I participated at that one tuli and will never do so again. Ironically, the program was actually sponsored by a local Protestant Church during what pinoys know as the “Circumcision Season”. Just google “tuli” and look at the pain on those boys faces, but the smiles of their family, friends, and the practitioners. You can also look at pinoy men on Pornhub to see the varying types of pinoy circumcision results.

Lucky, They have to know... or maybe choose not to know! There are three sections for seating. Most of the people sitting around in front of the cash registers inside are students from the nearby UP medical programs. On the outside area facing the street you will see overflow seating, but also the old men waiting for their young lady prostitutes. On the table section inside the mall, that is where you see BOTH the old men watching the prostitutes in front of Jamba Juice AND the old men meeting up with their young male dates. I’ll place two google image photos below to show the outside and inside seating areas.

I found nothing in Bodrum. I visited Izmir for three days on my way back from Ephesus, but it was two years ago. I visited three of the major gay friendly dance clubs/bars that were listed, but the problem was that I was staying with a friend so I could not bring anyone back. The CIX Club was gigantic. The moment I walked in I realized things would be interesting as everyone there was less than 30 years of age. Everyone clearly knew what this old man came to find and it was NOT just to dance! Half the place starting smiling and walking up to chat, but it was also true that half of the place started reaching into my pockets and trying to steal from me. I went to Club KA and found mostly Kurds there who were straight for pay. They were sexy and ready to go, but again no place. The night I tried Gullum and there were only about 20 men in the place and 1 sure guy for rent. The bartender even told me I could take action to the lavatory, but the one rent guy was not worth it. The loos at the other two places were just too crowded to even try something. My plan had been to go back last year and find an airbnb nearby, but Covid hit. So, the fruit was ready to pick! The pick-pocket attempts were quite proliferous, though. An updated report would be ideal if you make it there.

What a great story! I would have simply withered when the manager was at the door! I remember visiting the Istanbul Military Museum (one of the best in the world) and this Turkish guy struck up an English conversation with me. He said he was wanting to practice his English, but it was also clear he was someone I would peg as gay in DC or London. As I was walking back to my hotel, he said he was headed to Taksim and asked if he could tag along. We stopped at an outdoor café along the way and I offered to pay for a coffee. When the coffee and snacks were delivered, my new friend said to me, "They are discriminating against us". I asked WHY and he pointed to the people sitting around us whose coffee and cookie selection delivered to their table were quite larger than ours. I laughed and said, "Is it because I'm a foreigner?" He said, "No, its because they think we are gay just because I am talking with you! I can't believe that!" I then said, "Well, they are at least partially correct. One of us IS gay!" He never addressed my comment, but he then showed me a photo of his "girlfriend!" We also just parted ways afterwards. I could never quite figure out when someone there was just straight metrosexual, straight but effeminate, gay, or otherwise. My normally fine-tuned middle eastern gaydar just seemed to be off in this much different Turkish culture. The Turks and Kurds there are so supremely sexy, though.

My experience is similar to that Xclay. I had traveled there before, but the fun 10 years ago is quite different now. I was there for only three days last February before Covid hit the country. I was staying near the Corniche which has long been the place where street cruising occurs (in fact, any corniche in any northern Africa or Middle Eastern country is usually a great place for cruising). The trek to take is to start from the Alexandrian library to the east side, and then walk west along the corniche. If you are a single white older guy then you will get the smiles and winks. Now, the walk is quite nice, especially at night. During the day you can walk west and end it at the Citadel/Fort. You can then check out the cool fish market if it is operating, along with stopping at any of the cafes along the corniche as you walk back. BUT… here’s the warning I found from this last trip. On the first night, I walked with a female French colleague along the corniche. When I was getting to the Citadel, one of the usual sexy young male vendors approached us to sell us some popcorn. We bought some, and then we chatted for a few minutes. Suddenly two plainclothes men came up to us speaking Arabic and flashed they badges. One took the young man aside and started yelling at him, whilst the other asked for our ID. They asked us why we were talking to the guy and we told him. He then let us go. BUT… the young kid was yelled at in front of other people and then slapped several times on the head. My colleague who speaks Arabic said the young man was being told he was not allowed to talk with foreigners. Fast forward the next night. I went out walking again but this time alone. I saw the same young man now carrying a box with balloons he had blown up and modelled into figures. He was trying to sell them to people. This time I smiled, gave him the look up and down, and then kept walking. He followed me but started walking to my side. He kept whispering “police, police” and motioning with his head behind him. We separated and nothing came to be. I got to the Citadel/Fort and noticed police were taking away two western men and one young boy. I watched for a few minutes and noticed that there must have been 10-15 plainclothes police officers gathering around this arrest. I decided to turn around and start my way back. Right behind me I then saw one of the two plainclothes policemen from the day before had been following me all along. One might suggest that they are just watching out for the safety of foreigners. One might also say, as has been noted in the Gay press about Egyptian arrests, that they were targeting gays along the corniche as part of their normal crackdown on locations known to be gay cruising areas. I also tried the one Hammam listed in the gay cruising guides but there was no action there. I did not burn Alexandria’s port or library, but I did turn my back to it and head south of Cairo where the fun was less problematic.

Horror!!!! I had been traveling all through Brazil for two decades and never made the trip to Porto Alegre until TomCal introduced us to it! Those boys were sexy and passionate, and Mezzaninu was an amazing place. I remember this 19 year old blond blue eyed boy in regular clothes with a motorcycle helmet standing at the entrance when I arrived one time. He was there to deliver some pizzas, but it was apparent he also worked at times at Mezzaninu. After talking, we headed to a room. He took off his clothes and had the body of a God! His mother was a blond Ukrainian and his dad an Italian. Their sexy son with his big dick was amazing and he had a cum shot that spewed like a fountain. I can still smell the pizza aroma on this boy. I asked if he also worked at Plataforma. He just laughed and said he valued his health too much to work there. I did visit both, but Mezzaninu certainly was the better! I’m not sure why the owner never contacted TomCal to get some business advice...Tom certainly did more marketing for them than they probably did for themselves!

Oh my! It sounds as though you and I have travelled to many of the same places. Twenty years ago I began the quest to explore the ancient Roman, Early Christian, Byzantine, and Crusader sites of northern Africa and the Middle East. I did extreme western Egypt about 10 years ago. I took a Land Rover up to Marsa Matru, Sidi Barrani, and El Salloum. I then came back through Siwa Oasis to Bahariya Oasis and along the famous Oasis route 60. Another year I did the whole Abu Simbel to Port Said trip. I wanted to head over to Sharq El Owainat but the driver was too scared. I had completed the whole Alexandria to Abu Simbel trek many times via car, train, plane, and boat (Nile and Canal). I visited Sharm El-Sheikh two years ago because I wanted to do the whole St. Catherine monastery trek and climb the mountain of Charleton Heston. Sharm was filled with more Russian, German, and UK tourists than Egyptians it seemed. Easy Jet had made the place quite accessible. I stayed at Tropitel Waves Naama Bay and had a good experience. A gay Egyptian friend from Alexandria told me that the Sharm is certainly ripe now for gays to explore with some male fun. Previously the guys mainly were only interested in the money and sex of the countless old foreign women that were there. With the collapse of the tourist market, most hotels are closed and my friend said it was almost to the point that the guys were even paying HIM to suck them off when he visited. I found only one guy in my resort hotel for sex (a room attendant). Outside the resort, I tried the supposed Marine Park by the Albatross Hotel. I had no luck there, nor the corners of High El Noor and Nabaq as mentioned on the web. So, I went west and decided to take a walk along the beach on the other side of the Beach Albatros Sharm (El-Bahr). I went north along the beach and saw many young men smiling at me and rubbing their crotches on offer. I got excited, but I could see no place to do the deed anywhere nearby in the day light. I walked further up to the public beach area until I was stopped by a resort wall/border. I had to leave to get back for a flight, so I never had a chance to explore the area better. I would think it might be ripe for fun in the late evening, not unlike the Kornish in Sousse! Maybe you or someone else has more recent information! I have never been much into staying inside a resort for a week and the shark viewing experience pales in comparison to the one I did in Cape Town. So, it really depends on your interest. Sharm is a nice location to start if you then like to explore history with St Catherine’s and the suppose Mount Sinai! Cheers!

Correct. Both Casablanca and Fez have larger populations than Marrakech, but the sex scene was seemingly more overt in Marrakech. Casablanca street action at Cafe Ramses and the Plastik Club were lively at night. The problem with both was finding a place to go with the guy. One of my business colleagues found an answer by renting a large car for the week. He would meet guys and chat at both locations and then give blow jobs in the car. By the third day he had found an abandoned car park area where he took the guys to fuck him. If the lockdown lifts, he humorously said he was going back and renting a van the next time. There are plenty of Airbnb on offer nearby if one is willing to chance it.

HERE ARE SOME ANSWERS TO SOME QUESTIONS RECEIVED. I HOPE A FEW MORE GUYS MAY CHIME IN WITH THEIR EXPERIENCES AS WELL: IS IT DANGEROUS? If you are flamboyantly gay, noticeably effeminate, or can’t make cautious and careful propositions, then YES. I do not exaggerate when I say you will either be scorned, laughed at, beaten up, arrested, imprisoned, or killed. Simply put… choose another safer country in which to travel. I fell in love with men from the Middle East and northern Africa many years ago and have learned the basic tricks of the trade to live in their culture. If it is your first time traveling to Egypt, then you might want to first try Luxor and Aswan for your longer periods of stay for sex as they are safer, more touristy, easier to walk around the central areas, and have some great historic sites. You can do the Cairo portion of your trip in two or three days with the pyramids, Egyptian museum, souk, etc. LAST TIME IN EGYPT? Last February and again this past November… both for work. DID YOU EVER DO A NILE CRUISE? ANY LUCK WITH GUYS THERE? For those not familiar, the 3 or 4 night Nile cruises are quite popular. They go from Luxor to Aswan, or vice versa. I did my third one two years ago before the Covid-19, largely because they can be quite cheap and a great way to relax. First, you should know that when you book a single room, with other mostly elderly parties in double rooms, then you will be noticed by the staff. My first day I got to meet the male room attendant that was cleaning the room and making those funny little designs with towels they place on your bed. I gave him a smile, a look, and a small tip afterwards. The second day saw him do the same thing but he was clearly flirting and started to rub his crotch a lot. When he was rubbing one of those times, I smiled, gave him the eye, licked my lips, and he laughed. I then pulled out 400 Egyptian pounds (about $20 USD) and laid the money on the table I was working on. I very carefully let him see me counting out the money. Now 400 is massively expensive for a blow-job in Egypt, but I had always wanted this type of encounter so I was willing to do what needed to be done. I then continued work as he finished the room. Then, he went and closed the room door and laid the design towel on my bed. He was waiting for the money, so I looked at the 400 on the table, then looked back at him and licked my lips whilst looking at his crotch. He then laughed and pointed to his dick. I shook my head yes, made the gesture with my right hand of sucking the dick, and then pointed to the 400. He then dropped his pants and in 2 minutes the deed was finished. We did it the other two days AND… this was the cool benefit… he brought a friend another afternoon to ask if I wanted him, too. I obliged and had two boat workers. On my second cruise I had a very old attendant, so I wasn’t able to have the same luck. On my third cruise I was sitting out the top level outside bar. I talked with the barman who had quite good English. He asked why I was alone and if I was married. At that point, the conversation ventured just as I have described in the other posts. At the end I gave him a nice tip and showed him my room key. I then said, “If you need some more money stop by sometime”. Now, you should know they are NOT allowed into your rooms or they will be fired. However, about 2 am that night I heard a gentle knock on my door. I looked through the peep hole and there he was. He came in and we chatted for about 5 minutes. I told him how much I would pay and he obliged. It was our only encounter as he said later he couldn’t risk losing the job. NOW…there is one dangerous experience a German friend from Aswan described to me that happened to him. IF you get assigned on the lower floor with the outside small balcony near the water line, then you will get an offer that can be risky. During your cruise these fast open speed boats will pull alongside the cruise boat and some young men will offer trinkets for sell. When you say no, they will also rub their dick as to offer it. The German smiled, said yes, and waived 200 pounds to the guy. The boat then pulled alongside the cruise ship and the guy hopped off the boat, onto the balcony, and into the room. The German said the blow job was less than 30 seconds, he then took a photo which I saw to confirm the guy was there, and then the guy looked outside as the boat sped up and collected his friend. I had always seen the trinket sellers on these boats and the dick grab, but I had no desire to live so dangerous as to take advantage of the guys, get caught, and kicked off the boat! ANY ACTION WITH MILITARY GUYS? Yes, but more so in previous years before the gay crackdown in Egypt. Because of the Egyptian police, I won’t be specific on locations or identify where the military guys are usually available. I will offer this in general about recent times. You will find that some of the horse carriage drivers in Luxor and Aswan will be two weeks to a month away from joining the military. These guys will be 18-20 years of age, perfect bodies, and great teeth! This contrasts with the older carriage drivers or the more lower class young guys that will spend their lives as drivers. You can tell the latter because it is clear they don’t just drive the carriage, but also tend the horses as well. Now these pre-military “God like” guys do not own the carriage or horse, but their friends allow them to drive the carriage for a few weeks to get cash before they have to join the military. These guys are desperate for cash and will tell you they are soon to be going to the military (I know this is true because I even went to one guy’s installation service in Luxor after he was a regular with me for one month). When they ask if you are married and you say you are not, then you can see if they will offer themselves. You can ask them to take you to a quiet place and they will find one. I may do another post just on the positive and negatives of the horse carriage drivers, as there can be some problems associate with them as well. Now, as for active military in recent years where it turned bad, I will offer the story told my French friend living in Aswan. He was visiting Karnak at Luxor and noticed that a sexy military guy was following him. They had rounded a part of the remains where there was some privacy and the military guy offered his dick. The Frenchman showed him 200 pounds and then did the deed. Afterwards, the military guy asked for more money. When the Frenchman would not pay, the military guy took off his rifle and pointed to it, and then pushed the Frenchman against the wall. He then took the Frenchman’s wallet, took all the cash, and then threw the wallet on the ground and walked off. It is the case that guys in uniform will come on to you especially at the tourist sites when they see you are alone. Just be cautious and be aware of an exit plan. MOVIE THEATRES? The legit theatres in Cairo that were previously frequented for M4M sex are closed now due to the government crackdown on gays. I had luck at the one theatre in Luxor three years ago by sheer chance of a single guy being there and only two other couples. I had no luck the last time as there were just too many couples there making out. HAVE YOU HAD SUCCESS ALONG THE NILE IN CAIRO? Yes, many years ago. If you read the net you will see that there have been massive arrests and crackdowns there and the famous Nile Bridge where I used to meet guys. I walked along the Nile on the west side for some exercise my last stay. I have learned that if you stop and gaze at the Nile for about 15 minutes, then a young man eventually seems to stop near you to do the same. I had luck with many guys this way in the past, but now I only chat/flirt and do not risk bringing the guy back. The temptation is so great, but it is too risky because the Egyptian police are actively setting up stings to ensnare men. ANY BATHROOM HOOKUPS?: Yes, but that would be another post and to give detailed locations would also provide that to the police. DID YOU TRY GRINDR? Same answer as above and before. The stories of arrests are all over the internet about guys ensnared by Grindr hookups. I haven’t the slightest doubt that the Egyptian police also look at this board when it will show-up on google search. If you use Grindr then presume you have a better than 50-50 chance you are talking to the police. On my last stay in Aswan I opened Grindr and had about 10 men contact me. I decided to take the photos they provided and did a reverse image search on google. Not surprisingly, the photos were copied from other men. Be warned! ANY PROBLEMS WITH VIOLENCE? I have not, but a German friend had a violent guy just like the Frenchman did above. He took a young guy to his apartment in Luxor. They did the deed and the German paid. The young man then asked for more money. When the German did not pay, the young guy started breaking lamps, plates, and other things. He then took the small suitcase the German had in the bedroom and ran out. The German could not report it to police given the nature of the visit. I’ve made it a point to never bring a guy back in Egypt given that you can usually always find some other place to do the deed. The exceptions have been in the large hotels in Luxor and Aswan where I have had luck with hotel workers and security guards in my room. Please note that the MO of the horse carriage drivers will almost always be to expect more money, throw up their hands in disgust, and not accept what you agreed upon. It doesn’t happen all the time, but it does happen. As mentioned earlier, I just throw the money on the ground and walk away if they won’t take what we agreed upon. ARE BOAT TOURS SAFE—LUXOR AND ASWAN?: If you have never been on a boat ride on the Nile, then you really should do it at least once even if there is no sex involved. It is magically! I would say there are FOUR kinds of boat rides in these cities. The FIRST is the standard group boat/taxi ferry that takes you directly back and forth across the Nile. It is cheap, usually segmented by male/female, and packed with people. You will not be having sex here because it is open, your are with a group, and takes only 5 minutes to cross the Nile. The SECOND kind is the open motorboats that you can rent. This is where the young sexy guys will be waiting on the boardwalk and asking if you want a boat ride. These are open small boats with no tops and have an outboard style motor on the back. Think of them like a taxi on the water. You tell the guy where you want to go and negotiate the price. Make sure you convey that you want to go to say, Banana Island, AND BACK! Remember they are always looking to get more money out of you. You then walk down, get in the boat, and go to where you want. This is where the gay “bait and switch” can happen. On my first trip, I settled on a price, got to the boat, and then some old man got on the boat as the driver as the young sexy guy waved and pushed us off. I was pissed. It should be said that if you use these boats during the day hours, then no sex will occur because these boats have no privacy. At night, however, there is a time for sex. I had a sexy guy ask me at night if I wanted a ride on the Nile. We negotiated a price and went to the boat. As I was getting on, another young boy joined as the driver. I was a little pissed because I had thought I could have some privacy with my first guy. Well, once we got out on the Nile where there are few lights, the driver cut the motor and we quietly drifted. Then the driver came and sat in front of me with the other sexy guy to my side. They used gestures to ask if I was married. I said no, and then it became clear they were both available. I offered 100 each, they countered with 200, and we settled on 150 pounds each ($10 USD) for a blow job under the stars whilst on the Nile. The THIRD kind of boat ride is the sail boat. This is where the true gay “bait and switch” happens. The sexy guys on the Boardwalk will lure you to the boat “just to see the boat”. Then, an old guy pops up and starts to offer you a group discount for a 3-5 night boat trip on the Nile. He will often rub his cock, and will say you and your friends will have a great time. So, if you want an overnight sail boat ride, you can certainly arrange it. One Belgium friend did and made it clear to the owner that he wanted two sexy guys to join him and his partner on the trip. They had a blast, but I was never patient enough because I had plenty of land opportunities and more guys to try. These same sail boats also offer a one or two hour ride on the Nile. This is where (in Aswan) you can sit outside at McDonald’s and be approached by boat owners for a ride. I have given many a blow job once I can ensure that the sexy guy I am talking with is the actual driver. The FOURTH kind of boat ride is the felucca. A one hour felucca on the Nile is majestic and worth it even without the sex. You CAN, though, find a sexy guy and make some action happen. I decided to watch the felucca guys cleaning their boats and wait till I saw a sexy one. Once I did, I approached him past the other old guys and negotiated a price. Once you are on the Nile, he will ask if you are married. I would say it has been about 50-50 on the guy then smiling and saying he has an “Egyptian Banana” or “Egyptian sausage” that he would like me to try. He will then usually start to tack the boat to get some privacy and you can give a quick blow job there. One even crossed the river and stopped on the western side to secure the boat for some action. SO… get a boat ride and enjoy it. If you have sex, then it is even better! WHERE ARE THESE BAIT AND SWITCH YOUNG GUYS?: In Luxor they are all along the eastern walkway by the Nile (called the Kornish) from the Winter Palace up to the Hospital. In Aswan they are on the Kornish between the Old Cataract hotel and up to the park next to the road that leads to the train station. I will always chat with them, smile, say no to their efforts to get me to a boat, and give them a few coins. After I do this every day for morning and afternoon walks, I can often meet for a real blow job with a few of them later. When I had gotten confident with one group, they asked why I did not want a boat. I just smiled and said (as I walked away making the gesture of a blow job with my right hand) that I only wanted Shisha! I was able to end that visit with four young guys at the Peace Park behind a tree across the road for 300 pounds each. Just know their angle and their desire to get you to the boats!!!!! HAMMAMS?: I had success in the past, but they were far too crowded my last two stays. Strangely, they were still open even with Covid-19. You should understand that when a white foreigner walks in, every young horny male knows exactly why he is there. The problem these last two stays were that the places were massively overrun with people everywhere. Young guys came over to show what they had, but we had no place to go and I certainly wasn’t going to do the deed in front of 20 other men who could be police. Two hammans were shut down last year in Cairo (and men arrested) precisely because of gay sexual activity. HOW HUNG ARE THE GUYS? Xclay’s comment was entirely correct. As has been mentioned in the comments above, they seem average to me compared to most westerners. But, these guys LOVE blow jobs and seem to like to fuck. They seem to get hard faster than anyone I have ever seen. The problem comes in that they are so horny, they will cum in less than two minutes. This is not because I am a gifted sucker, but because they can’t seem hold out for long. Given I am older, my knees appreciate the quick service! For northern Africans, I would rate the Moroccans and Algerians as having the biggest dicks, then the Libyans, and then the Tunisians and the Egyptians.

I did a post on the gay Europe board based on my very limited recent experience in Turkey. Cheers