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There are some Russians in my gym but I do not think that any of them are gay.

The other morning when passing through in the Complex - there were construction workers doing works inside the Dorothy's Showbar. Months ago, the rumor mill said that M2M bought it but no one ever chimed in about how it will be transformed ?

and why would a gay person stay in that area when there are 3 known gay areas to stay in: the Sunee Plaza area, Boyztown, Jomtien Complex

I think that this forum peer pressure for us to have sex everyday, for who are here, who are doing trip reports - is that said forum members who are home or not in Thailand - want to live vicariously through our in-Thailand adventures - and therefore their @home (not in Thailand) desire is to influence our in-Thailand trip to post more about 1 or more encounters (offs) each day to satisfy their need/frustration for not being in-Thailand right now. Thoughts ?

I fully agree - in my opinion, the M2M show is the BEST cabaret show in the Jomtien Supertown Complex. But the BEST in all of Pattaya, in my opinion, is the one at Tiffany's as I reported here:

of which 1 of them I have a crush on - as he is from Myanmar and ever so sexy. Here in Pattaya it is very rare to have the privilege to encounter Myanmar guys whereas in BKK it is much easier to encounter them. Emiel and I, we nicknamed him, Mr. Tuesday, as he was supposed to be in my condo room today for my weekly gay volleyball organized 4 hands massage. One of the ex stars of X-Boys is personal friends of him (he plays volleyball), and he put my volleyball friend in contact with Mr. Tuesday. But, unfortunately, Mr. Tuesday had to cancel due to this awful fever + nasty cough that is going around here because of the recent inclement weather. So, once I can get Mr. Tuesday in my bed I will report back here..... Today I was provided with a sexy masculine substitute guy from Khon Kaen (Isaan) who was visiting Pattaya for 3 days and my volleyball massage organizer grabbed him at the last minute for my massage today. He was hot and fun - but in another day he flies back to Khon Kaen - so no repeat looks possible.

at the suggestion of @emiel1981 I also had him. He is a fun young guy from Tampa, Florida. as I already posted in the other thread = This "straight" guy fits into one of Dr. Joe Kort's categories for straight guys who like anal stimulation and I would also add for who are "cashsexual". He has a great 6-pack and an average cut cock - which I tried to make orgasm - but no way - as he got hard for a while and then it petered (pun intended) out and became soft. So, then I let him finish me off with an ok edging - not the best but not the worst. As Emiel wrote, his massage was average. What is amazing is that his price is very reasonable for 2.000 baht because normally in Pattaya the foreigners usually start with prices that are minimum of 3.000 baht and up to 5.000 baht. The "straight" Russians that I play with require 3.000 and some of the hot BIG dick African's that pass through cost around 4.000 baht - but they are usually all pure muscle with humungous cut cocks.

Wow @Vessey, this is a great summary / history of the M Bar. Thanks for sharing it with all of us. I have been living here now for 2 years and I only discovered this M Bar 2 weeks prior. On my first visit, my Thai friend who brought me here introduced me to Mama M and she gave me a long history lesson (which I truly enjoyed) about her works in Sunee Plaza, the demise of Sunee Plaza via the many Thai police raids for underage workers, then her time in BoyzTown, and then she shared with me the workings of the "authority" that is in charge of the Jomtien Complex - which if I remember correctly is the Royal Thai Army ? So, what goes on and what is approved or not approved has to first past muster with the Thai Army. She specifically stated that the Thai police that were harassing Sunee Plaza are not welcome in the Jomtien Complex as it is under the auspices of the Thai Army. These factual discoveries about how Pattaya is carved up into many little fiefdoms always fascinates me. Lastly, when @emiel1981 mentioned about the strong odor of mothballs - I told him that it reminded me of being at my grandmother's house and it actually did not bother me as it refilled me with those pleasant childhood memories.

@emiel1981 great update on your Pattaya adventures.... what was your impression of the M Bar ? 🤪

Hairy palms ? I did not know that our @vinapu had this fetish ? 🤪 😆

Perhaps around 22:30pm ? I think that Vinapu and I we went to nearby Dreamboys prior --> and then walked across the soi to X-Boys Pattaya at around 22:30pm for their show...

and that is a challenge that I am willing to accept. I have heard those words before for them to melt away when the right atmosphere and conditions are set....

it reminds me of the 1978 movie, "Invasion of the Body Snatchers", but in this version, some entity took away our original fun and sexy BBB and replaced it with this over clothed boring male fashion show for the ladies..... and this being the biggest anchor bar of Boyztown - has had a sad negative effect on the once vibrant Boyztown of years past. https://www.facebook.com/PanoramaPubPattaya/videos/the-boyz-boyz-boyz-parade-appears-to-be-back-with-the-best-view-from-panorama-pu/1856803917670027/ oh, the good old days with the sexy BBB guys marching in the daily 9pm parade to tantalize the entire Boyztown. How to get the past back ?

This came up on my Youtube feed and I found it very interesting - as I expected to see very old men available. Instead, they were mainly middle-aged Japanese men and many were very good looking. Have any of you tried or have experience with this Japanese concept? Below is a review of the concept: https://www.tofugu.com/reviews/ossan-rental/ Below is the hyperlink to the actual site to make a booking: https://ossanrental.thebase.in/ I still have not yet visited Japan - but it is high on my bucket list and I would definitely try this service for my first visit - it would be like to have my very own @vinapu in Japan - perhaps the equivalent of a Japanese bootcamp ?

If you want to enter into the sea water I strongly suggest that you make the effort to venture over to nearby Koh Larn island - that is in front of Pattaya / Jomtien. see below.

Please note that there are 3 distinct Zing hotels in Pattaya (Jomtien) as shown in the below Google map. The first one (from top to bottom on the map) is the one that is on Thappraya road and closest to the gay Sansuk sauna. The second one is the one within the Jomtien Complex The third one is almost at the border where Jomtien finishes and Na Jomtien begins - very far south. --> I found out about this when a friend was doing his booking for Zing and he chose the Z by Zing one and he asked me to go and check it out. Once I told him that it is SO far from all of the fun stuff he immediately changed his booking.

For now your logic should work as long as in the future that immigration will not count the number of calendar days that you stayed in Thailand in a given year as stamped in your passport -> if this count would exceed 180 days and then perhaps immigration might ask to see your Thai tax filing for that year. So far, nothing has been said about this - fingers crossed that it stays this way as I dread the idea of going to the Thai Revenue Department office to obtain my new tax ID number. Currently, my plan is to: Stay in Thailand less than 180 days in year 2025 - so I won't be a tax resident in 2025, Use year 2025 to top up my Thai bank account for years 2025 + 2026. Live 12 months in Thailand in tax year 2026 but without any assessable income (no remittances into Thailand in the 2026 tax year). Repeat this process until my age 70, when I should qualify for the BOI Wealthy Pensioner 10 year visa, which is currently exempt from any tax. But you must prove that you can bring $80,000 USD equivalent into Thailand in the previous 2 individual years, where this amount is ONLY sourced from passive income proven with 2 years of tax returns. It is ironic that you need to pay tax if you cannot bring in $80,000 USD equivalent per each tax year. So, tax the poor and do not tax the wealthy. TIT = This is Thailand

Wow Emiel - I love your energetic spirit. Great time!! And this is something that I have not yet done with my off - as I am usually just too pooped / exhausted and I want to get him back to my room before my penis decides to call it a night before I do hahahaha... I cannot wait to read this trip report and to learn about the gymnastics that will need to occur. Do you like the game Twister ?

@spoon, BINGO - I also agree with you. Hopefully, @ichigo we do a looksy and let us know what is the format of these Crete parties.

As I wrote above - these 5 baht toilet stations are closed and locked by sunset. There are NO facilities (other than perhaps the Sea Rescue station) that are open AFTER sunset. And it is after sunset when the beach gets packed (Jomtien soi 12). I would gladly use the pay toilet stations, but I repeat --> they are closed at sunset.

Hornet is good value for money - my annual subscription is $29.99 per year and they don't add extra fees like Grindr does in case you want to know who looked at your profile - that is free. You also can follow other profiles and see who is following that profile and also see who is following your profile - great for knowing which birds of the same feather flock together - a BIG help when you are looking for similar minded people (i.e. who might have a proclivity for similar sexual activities) Meanwhile, greedy Grindr costs $19.99 per month and you need to pay extra if you want to know who looked at your profile and I do not believe that there isn't any follow member feature ? So, the cost for 1.5 months of Grindr is equivalent to 12 months on Hornet. Lastly, Heesay's annual subscription costs $59.99 - equivalent to 3 months of Grindr

Mine are all from the Pattaya area - unless Vinapu is in town then some BKK guys could get on this list: 1) B (Thai) guy from the Jomtien Supertown Complex, who organizes my 4 hands massages on 2 of my 4 weekly gym days 2) B (Thai) guy from the Dongtan gay volleyball, who organizes my 4 hands massages on 1 of my 4 weekly gym days For the other days in the week - if I would want sex - then it is from the apps - mostly from Hornet - as that is where I have the most success.