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hello Firecat, I am glad to hear that you are back in service. I was worried about you. You are one of my guiding lights. Welcome back and keep on enjoying and sharing with us. I've written all of my Trip Reports - except for the Pattaya one which I will probably do next weekend - since I spent a good chunk of yesterday putting together the Koh Samui one. Cheers, M.

Wow Xiluzer, your trip report was so enjoyable and exciting to read. Compliments. You wrote, "the ending will always lead to a new beginning", which is often true. On my recently concluded BKK trip, I had an awful beginning because I was madly in search of Noom, the character from the www.bangkokbois-gay-thailand-blog.com from the section called, "I fell in love with a bar boy". I had been reading that blog for 1 year and the highlight of the beginning of my December BKK trip was to meet and off Noom. I even corresponded with Rush (the author of that blog) some months back about wanting to meet Noom. Wouldn't you know it, Noom was no where to be found. He no longer worked at the go-go bar Hotmale as reported in the bangkokbois blog. He now worked in Zeus. Zeus told me that he had go home and would not be available during my time in BKK. You don't know how pissed off I was. Rush's blog is excellently written and he has a great talent of drawing you into his love life with Noom - so I was hooked from his Blog and I wanted so bad to pass from the virtual reality world into the reality world of being in bed with Noom. But it was all shattered in the first days of my 25 day trip in LOS. Eventually I got over it and I concluded my 25 LOS trip with the following thought in my mind, "the beginning will always lead to a new ending", from bad to good in my case. I was fortunate to salvage my trip that I waited so long to realize. And so did you - you didn't get the ending that you wanted - but imagine the next time that you come to LOS - you will have a mystery to solve, about Anne and then about your desires (if any will remain) for Mr. P.

04 January – 09 January 2014 Trip Report to Koh Samui Flew Bangkok Airways from CNG Chiang Mai to USM Koh Samui on the flight earlier than the one I had booked, because when I arrived at the airport they said, “the 12:50 flight is boarding now and there are some empty seats – you will need to hurry – but no meal for you as we already furnished the aircraft with all of the accounted for meals” – I said, yes, since it meant that I could get to Koh Samui by 14:35 instead of 15:40 – as they told me that flight would be late. So, I sacrificed a meal, even though I paid the expensive 7,290 bahts for the 1-way ticket to obtain the privilege to be on the beach before sunset. When the meals were being handed out I acted dumb when they tried to give me one, but they quickly returned to take it back and said, “Sir, you can’t have a meal” – all of the other passengers looked at me as if I was a convict – as they could not understand why the Bangkok Airways staff would say that to me. Prior to boarding I had purchased a modest sandwich and I was content to eat that. After flying for 1 hour 45 minutes, arriving to the Koh Samui International Airport is quite a pleasant surprise because the first impact is the beauty of the island, the fact that the airport is all outside – an open air bus (that looks like a ride from Disneyland) picks you up from the aircraft and transports you to the open air arrivals terminal. It reminded me of one of my trips to one of the Hawaiian Islands where it had a similar look – tropical paradise – the sun was bright and it was hot and humid – a big change from the climate of Chiang Mai which was cooler and much less humid. Took a taxi to the AKWA Guesthouse in South Chaweng Beach. I chose the AKWA because it is “gay-friendly” and I read that the Dutch owner, Martin is very friendly and the rates are reasonably priced – which is important considering that Koh Samui is oriented towards resorts and the more wealthy tourists. I was shown to my penthouse room up on the 3rd floor which had a nice view of the street in front of the guesthouse facing towards the Poppies Resort which is on the beach. The outdoor terrace is very big with 2 lounge chairs, 2 normal chairs, and a small table and the most interesting thing are the two small ‘Ganesh’ shrines on the terrace in the corner with some food offerings to the spirits to protect the guesthouse from harm. Obviously, I never disturbed these 2 important objects as I also wanted to be protected from harm as well. Unpacked my bags and headed out for the “gay beach”. Most of the guides indicate that it is in front of the Trade Winds hotel. I walked the entire length of the Chaweng beach area and never found it. I will have to investigate by asking around later at the bars. So, I made my own gay beach at the Billy SeaBeach and swam and then ate some food. Note that the service at this bar/café on the beach is extremely slow – food was good – but only go if you have time to waste. Back to guesthouse, relaxed, showered and headed out to the busy Chaweng Beach Road to check out good places to eat and to see where the gay places were. Unlike Chiang Mai, I was located much closer to the gay places which were 15 minutes away by foot. The trick to find the 4 or 5 gay places is to first find the Solo bar and/or Terminal restaurant on the main Chaweng Beach Road (opposite side from the famous ARK bar) and go down this soi towards the Chaweng Stadium where there is Muay Thai boxing. This soi is shaped like a horse-shoe (U-turn) and on the left side of the U-turn are the Pride Bar and G-Spot bars and then on the other side are the K-Club and Gay Point bars. I made the below map for all of you as it makes things much easier to find and understand. I discovered that there is so much competition between most of the gay venues in Koh Samui that this prevents a unified picture of what is going on as many of the businesses are NOT united towards a collective “gay marketing” approach to doing business and instead they are fragmented, which makes it hard for us tourists to understand what is going on. My first stop was at the Gay Point (166/25 Moo 2, Chaweng Road) on Saturday 04 January, and we were 5 farangs and there were 2 Thai customers. Then there were Jay (the fun manager) and the ladyboy bartender who kept serving up drinks to us all night long. For every drink that you ordered Jay or LB would accompany it with random shots. In the beginning things were quiet but after the booze was flowing and after a few shots, us farangs were then buying the other unknown guests rounds of shots. I spoke to a nice couple from Germany next to me and another farang from the USA. I am not much of a drinker, and after a couple of hours I had to leave as I could feel I was going to get sick from being super intoxicated. So, Gay Point is a fun place and it is thanks to Jay and LB for breaking the hard ice that us farangs sometimes create and then it was great. Well worth visiting. Sunday, 05 January I ate a great breakfast in the AKWA guesthouse down in the bar area – the breakfast is not included in the room rate – but that is ok with me because the breakfast is served all day and that is what I prefer instead of having a “free” breakfast where the hotel dictates to you when you need to eat it. AKWA has a large and complete breakfast menu and is similar to the wonderful “Butter is Better” place that I reviewed in my Chiang Mai trip report. Then I headed off to the beach looking again for the “gay beach”, in the area around the Trade Winds hotel, but no luck. From the prior night adventure many of the locals told me that Koh Samui does not have enough of an established local gay community to maintain a gay beach. In addition, since Koh Samui is oriented towards resorts and “people in love” and all of that romantic stuff – it does not attract much of a gay tourism and consequently it is a struggle for the island gay businesses to keep their doors open. In addition, it is hard for us tourists to meet the locals as most Thais are from elsewhere (Isaan) and unemployment is very low so everyone is busy working and even the gay venues have difficulties maintaining gay staff as they are often being stolen away by the other gay businesses who are competing for the same limited number of gay human resources. So, I created my own gay beach in front of the construction area (of the new OZ complex), as it is sandy and free of the resort chairs and I sometimes like to lay down on a towel directly on the beautiful sand and just tan, and swim. There was much eye candy around, but not many single guys as they were mostly hooked up in couples or groups. But the nature scenery is breathtaking with large coconut trees, white sand, and crystal clear blue water. Back to the guesthouse and then I went to search for the ThaiBoy Men Spa, (21/138 Moo 3 Bophut (Chaweng) Samui). It is not on the main Chaweng Beach road but more inland. The key to find it is to search for the Walking street and to walk to the end of it (it is short) and then you will be near the Petchbuncha Muay Thai boxing stadium. After the stadium is the Laem Din market and then more ahead on the same main road on the left you will see the CS Hotel and the ThaiBoy Men Spa. Perhaps 10 minutes from the main beach road by foot. I met Tom, the Swiss owner and right away we hit it off. He is great fun and a very informative guy. If you want to know all about the inner workings of the gay businesses on Koh Samui, he is the man to ask. I ordered a 90 minute Aloe Vera massage with Non (I would guess that he was about 27 years old) a nice gay guy who is a dancer at the Starz Cabaret place. He has very sexy muscular dancer legs and he gives a nice massage – although it is more on the sensual side instead of the harder stronger massages that I prefer. The “happy ending” was good and sensual like the massage. Showered and then Non had to run off to work as a Starz dancer. I then hung out with Tom and had a great long conversation about what is it like for an ex-pat from Switzerland to live on Koh Samui – he gave me the inside scoop on what it is like to live there, have romance, and to conduct gay business on the island. I paid 900 baht to the Spa for the massage and 1,500 to Non. Then I asked Tom if he could organize a full day tour of Samui for me on Tuesday 7 January. I believe that he quoted me 3,000 baht for the day plus incidentals. Being tired after the massage I only went out to eat and called it a night. Monday 6 January, again I searched for the “gay beach” and no luck again, so I walked down to the “Monkey Beach”, a place that I noticed and liked. They have excellent quick waiter service and great wi-fi. Also, it is near the OZ resort construction site where I liked swimming and taking in the sun. No gays in sight but some pockets of nice eye candy. After a day at the beach I searched for the Mekkala Men Spa, which is on the former, “Rainbow Avenue”, near the Trade Winds Hotel, just off the Chaweng Beach Road. I found out from the locals that the original plan for the “Rainbow Avenue” was to create a little gay mecca in Chaweng. Unfortunately, like in many gay places all over the world, this plan fell through some years ago and the other former bars that were located there closed and now only remains Mekkala – as almost all of the Samui gay nightlife has moved over to the 2 sois that are behind the Solo Bar and Starz Cabaret near the Chaweng Muay Thai boxing stadium. I sat with Ajay, the owner/manager and we decided on a 90 minutes cream massage, as I was somewhat sunburned. I chose, Q, a beautiful “straight” guy (perhaps 26 years old) who is from Isaan. The massage was very good and intense and just the way I like it. When we got to the end, Q asked me if I want the special and I said yes and he gave me a great blow job followed by a sensual hand job. Not bad for a guy who says he is straight. Showered afterwards and paid Ajay the 1,000 baht fee to the Spa and I gave Q 1,500 for a massage well done. Mekkala is a nice place but it is best if you reserve in advance if you want a greater selection of guys, as there is a shortage of massage workers on Samui and they are often pulled from one massage place to another. Back to the guest house for a shower and change of clothes and then walked over to the Terminal restaurant for an excellent surf&turf dinner (where I drooled at the Chef – he was a hot masculine Thai guy) and then headed over to the K-Club. Unlike the Gay Point bar, which is run by Jay and LB, K-Club must have had 6 young guys working as host bar boys. Right away, the most queeny youngest one latched onto me as there were only 3 customers in the bar. It is a very nice place and they also offer massage services (the business name for this other entity is “Together Massage”) upstairs and they have explicit menus on display that show menu items like, “cock massage”, “ball massage”, etc. I did not try any as I was already spent from my Mekkala massage from Q. So, I bought my queeny young host boy a drink and he tried to kiss me and all of that stuff and I tried to make him understand that he was not my type. Anyway, after he calmed down and realized that I was not going to kick him away, I decided to have an Anonone moment, (at this point there was only me and one other farang customer in K-Club who was busy most of the night deep kissing and dry-humping the sexy manager, Jessy) so I told all of the 5 other host boys who were not with the only one other customer that drinks were on me. As Anonone often wrote on this board, it truly livened things up and everyone was happy and dancing, and I was carrying on with all of the boys as around that time the Muay Thai boxing show had let out from the nearby Chaweng Stadium and we decided to entice the passing customers to come into the K-Club including some of the HOT Muay Thai boxers. It was a lot of fun – mostly the passing ladies would joke around with us – but when their men figured out what kind of bar we were they would freak out and quickly run away. Unfortunately, we did not get any of the Muay Thai boys into the bar – it is too close to the stadium where they fight and they have an image to maintain. After a few rounds of drinks – I called it a night and left alone. There was one guy I would have loved to have offed but I could not get rid of the queeny boy. Anyway, it was a great time and I recommend this bar – just be ready for intense pressure from the bar boys, especially if there are no customers around. In the end, they are just a bunch of fun young guys. Tuesday 07 January – the big day tour with Tom from ThaiBoy Men Spa. He picked me up around 10:30 in a white car (Nissan?) and we headed off for Lamai, which is the next beach south of Chaweng. We went to a high view point to appreciate the views of Chaweng from afar – it was beautiful. Then we drove to the south end of Lamai beach to the famous “Grandmother and Grandfather rocks”, which are similar to a vagina which occasionally becomes wet from the waves washing up and a penis. Took the required souvenir photos and then we were off to do one of the things that I did not get to do in Chiang Mai, which was to go on an Elephant Safari. So, the next stop was to the beautiful Namuang Jungle and Waterfall Park. After our adventure with Lala, and roughing it in the jungle, we walked over to the giant Namuang waterfall to take a swim. Of course I asked all of the stupid questions before jumping into the water – are there any snakes or crocodiles here? We survived and it was VERY refreshing after our safari adventure. Then we dried off and stopped for refreshments – 2 freshly cut and opened coconuts. Now that was nice. Back to the car and off to my favorite part of our adventure, a private deserted beach that is near the 5-Island Hotel resort in the Taling Ngam section of Koh Samui. We stopped the car just before arriving to the 5-Island Hotel resort and then back tracked on foot in the opposite direction through an abandoned wooden foot path where there were parts of it with overgrowth and we had to bush whack our way forward and parts of the footpath were falling down. Then we arrived underneath an old Chinese burial shrine and from there were steep steps down to the beautiful secluded beach, with little private coves. We did stumble across someone sleeping on one of the caves but we just continued forward to our own private cove and then got naked and swam. We were literally in front of the 5 Islands off in the distance in the open sea and it was breathtaking and it was great to be naked – as I know in the LOS it is prohibited to be naked. I am sorry that I cannot share any web links or other info to this secluded place – you will just need to contact Tom to find the secret way to get there. I don’t believe that I could find it again if I were not with Tom. After about 1 hour of swimming and soaking in the sun, we had to head back towards the car and we stopped at one of the beachfront stands and ate a great late lunch with a stunning view of the 5-Islands. So, not to be outdone, Tom drove around the rest of the Samui Island (we had done a full circle of the island) bringing me back to his ThaiBoy Men Spa, where he had arranged a 90 minute massage for me with Nam – a very sexy gay guy. It was a perfect ending to a perfect day and Tom is an excellent host and tour guide and I highly recommend if you go to Koh Samui that you visit to see him. Wednesday 08 January – during the previous day’s journey I had inadvertently put my smartphone in a bag of seawater. Don’t ask me how I had done such a stupid thing. So, I spent most of today going from one repair shop to another hoping to find someone who could perform a miracle on my phone. I was very upset as I lost many important messages and photos that were supposed to be included in my trip reports for Chiang Mai, and Koh Samui. Anyway, I wasted most of the day with this task and in the end my phone could not be saved. Sea water is the worst as it immediately corrodes the inside of the phone and causes an immediate short circuit as the salt water is full of ions that conduct electricity which short out all of the circuits. So, I decided to wait for my trip to Pattaya to buy a new smartphone at the famous Tuk.com mall (the one that is like MBK in BKK). For my last night in Koh Samui, I went to the Pride bar which is in the same soi as all of the other gay bars. It is very nice and on the elegant side. There were 2 people working the bar and 4 customers. Since it is not a host boy bar, it is not easy to meet other people. It is better if you are already with a group of people or if you want to meet a date there and chill out. So, with my backup emergency phone (very old) I cruised a guy from GR to meet me but he kept stopping in all of the other gay bars telling me he was there. I would always respond that I was in Pride and eventually I told him that I don’t like this game and if he wants to meet me he needed to walk the extra 100 meters to the gay bar where I was. He never came, so I paid the bill to leave and immediately at that moment, this guy arrived out of nowhere and ordered a shot of whiskey and said hello to me and I was polite and said hello to him and then he walked down the soi towards the Muay Thai boxing stadium. Then I left and I received another GR message saying – “where are you going? I just came into the Pride bar and took a shot of whiskey and said hello to you”. I just ignored his messages. I thought to myself – that was a very weird encounter and I did not get good vibes – so just went back to the guesthouse to pack and go to sleep. Thursday 09 January – checked out of the AKWA guesthouse and took a taxi to the exotic Koh Samui International airport and flew to Pattaya with Bangkok Airways departing at 11:10am and arriving at 12:25pm, costing 5,210 bahts – not bad considering what I paid to fly from Chiang Mai to Koh Samui. Would I go to Koh Samui again? Probably not – if I was single – as Koh Samui is more a romantic place and for gays does not offer too much for single guys. The night life is ok – but after Bangkok and Chiang Mai – it is a very small scene and it is extremely hard to meet gay Samui guys. In the entire 5 days I only met 3 – they were all straight. However, note that Koh Samui is one of the most beautiful places that I have ever been to – up there with Hawaii – a must do in the land of smiles at least one time. This concludes my Koh Samui trip report.

Yes Anone and Vinapu - you are both right with your advice. My problem is different - the organization that I work for implemented a new rule just before I left for Thailand in December that says we must be proficient in a 2nd language at level B by December 2014 or our HR assignment will not be extended. That would be tragic for me. So, I will be investing my 2014 vacations in Spanish speaking countries - even though my heart and lust is in LOS. So, the earliest that I can return to Thailand is January 2015 - assuming I pass the Spanish language exam. Wish me luck. Hasta luego, M.

hello Vinapu, Koh Samui will be this weekends project. I am back in Italy now and very depressed. I already miss the LOS so much - this last 25 day vacation there was one of the best vacations in my entire life. I wish I was independently wealthy, as I would move there in a New York minute.

New Years Day - quite relaxing breakfast on the Ping river under the sun with the air full of that after fireworks smell. Went into the deserted city centre to prepare for the big trip up north tomorrow. Haircut, backpack, medicated eye drops (the dust up here is killing my ability to wear my contact lenses) from the pharmacy. Mission accomplished even if many places were rightfully closed after last night's mayhem. Then I treated myself to a great meal (eggs Benedict for lunch) at, the "Butter is Better" diner in Chiang Mai (189 Chang Klan Road) http://www.butterisbetterbakery.com/ I highly recommend the place and I loved the kitschy 1950s/60s décor. Then set off to the "Classic Massage" place at 27/2 Thapae Road, Soi 4 (between the Night Bazaar and the Thapae Gate) www.classichousemassage.net for a 2 hour 4 hand massage from 30 year old Net and 27 year old Joe. The mamasaan is an interesting character - with a deep raspy voice of someone who has smoked and partied way too much in his life. The massage was very good with a strong contrast between the 2 guys, Net massaging in an extremely strong manner provoking some pain but in a good way, and Joe who was more adapt at stretching my muscles. Part 2 of the massage was interesting in that the strong guy also stroked too strongly and many times I had to remove his hand from the equipment to avoid a premature end to the pleasure where the other guy maintained a perfect slow and sensual rhythm. So, I decided to play with the strong guys tool but when I reached to grab it, what I found in my hand felt like 3 balls, and while roaming around the merchandise I discovered that the 3rd ball was actually a small penis (truly sad as the guy was hot and extremely manly). Then Mr. sensual brought me over the edge and our mutual fun concluded. I took a shower alone and then dressed and went downstairs to pay but I could not find anyone so I ventured behind the curtain in the employee zone to find all of the 6 cute guys all laying down together on a big mattress watching TV. Then the mamasaan came from out on the street (she/he is very protective of her boys) and took me away from them darling guys to the front desk to pay the 1,200 Baht to the house and 800 each to the guys, but I instead gave them 1500 each, as they truly worked hard. Ate dinner later and then off to bed early to be ready for the great adventure tomorrow. 2ndof January – the big adventure to Chiang Rai. Woody and his “friend” Non, picked me up from the C17 hotel around 10:40 in their nice 2012 black Nissan. We then stopped off for some road snacks and gassed up the car for our journey up north with the first stop being lunch at the hot springs which are at the beginning of the Chiang Rai province. We passed through some nerve wracking mountain curves – as the Thais drive like Italians – so I was somewhat prepared but not from the we drive on the opposite side of the road point of view. Here is a little info sheet that they gave me with their picture that I took – they are so cute and info on how you can contact them if you want to use their “services” as they only charge 2,000 for in-city trips and 2,500 for out of Chiang-Mai trips plus expenses of food, gas, and hotels if your trip includes over-night stays like ours did (the distances are just too far to do it all in one day). The Chiang Rai hot springs are basically a tourist trap where you can eat lunch, buy some souvenirs, and look at the small geyser hot spring. In the back, there is a place where you can go into them – we did not. We ate lunch and why the 2 guys asked me what I wanted to eat, I replied with farang revenge and said, “It’s up to you” – they both laughed, as they said that is what every Thai person says to the farangs. They chose great dishes as I truly like to eat like real Thais when both my stomach and intestines are in good working order. Then we headed off for the famous White Temple (Wat Rong Khun) which is VERY impressive as it is a gigantic non-conventional Buddhist Temple, very white (which blinds you in the light) and very ornate. In addition, it is a ‘work in process’, as it is not yet completed and they are adding many more sections. Both Woody and Non made sure that I saw everything which included the “repair shop” as the guys explained to me that an important temple so large needs constant repairs. Then the guys said, “you need to make a wish” and so we paid 60 baht each to be given a tin ornament where you write your wishes on it and then hang it on a tree – there are millions of these ornaments on several trees – very good way to fund the expansion of this very artistic place. è Note that the elapsed time to the White Temple from Chiang Mai is about 2.5 hours. Then we headed into town (the temple is about 12 km outside of downtown Chiang Rai) to find our hotel. We stayed at the Wiang Inn (893 Phaholyothing Road) and paid 2,200 baht for 1 night for 3 people – breakfast included. They guys said we should relax, and shower. I thought oh yeah – some fun. NO – after I showered their local friend said that the guys had to take me to the outskirts of Chiang Rai to the river to eat on the river during the sunset. No problema – so we headed out to a great place on the river to eat overlooking a big Buddha that was located on the other side of the river. Food was great and we had some great laughs. Then we had to run to meet their local friend who took us to one of the most wonderful flower festivals that I have ever seen in my life – held at the Suan Mai Ngam Rim Nam Kok Park – called the Chianrai ASEAN Flower Festival. It was enormous and the aromas of all of the different flowers was delightful. In addition, it being night time it gave the show a different aura as the water misters were on and made many of the scenes appear to be surreal. Here is a photo of the 4 of us with their friend Ban giving us the tour. Then we ran off to a 2nd flower festival (as if one was not enough) called the 10th annual Chiang Rai Flower Festival with a flower tunnel acting as its entrance way. Of the 2 festivals, I preferred the ASEAN one as it seemed to include more variations of flowers – however the 10th annual festival was also very impressive. During our walk at the 2nd festival, I noticed some tension between Woody and Non and found out later in the night back at the hotel that Non had gotten some intestinal bug and we had to stop at the nurses station. Woody was disappointed because we were supposed to have some fun later back at the hotel – but I was ok with it – as I preferred that Non be taken care of by Woody as we had a big day ahead of us tomorrow. Woke up and had breakfast and we checked out and set off for the Mae Sai Myanmar border crossing. I was very excited as I have always wanted to go to Myanmar and this was an extra bonus as I had not asked for this in my original request to Woody. Since I found out that Woody is a refugee from Myanmar (hill-tribe Shan people) now living legally in Thailand with documents for 10 years – who better to show me Myanmar than Woody. Unfortunately at the border crossing they guards were about to let me cross when the 2 tour guides were held up due to missing papers. So, I aborted my entry. Damn – so close yet so far. Woody was visibly disappointed, but it seems that they had changed the rules again for his entry – as in the past (August 2013) he just left his Thai documents with the border guards (Woody would keep a photocopy with him) and then he was free to enter Myanmar – unfortunately the rules had changed and this was no longer allowable. He actually needed a visa paper and even his partner, Non who is Thai from Isaan also needed a similar paper. They could see that I was very disappointed but I told them that Myanmar would be for another time and that I appreciated the attempt that they organized. So, plan B was that Woody called his friend who was waiting for us in Myanmar to come over and join us for lunch. They took me up the massive number of steps to the famous Wat Phra That Wai Dao which has an excellent view deep into Myanmar (my consolidation prize) where we ate lunch. In addition we explored the very interesting Temple complete with a giant scorpion statue which was built to scare away the former Burmese invaders. Then they took me to the large Mae Sai market – but I was marketed out and not very impressed. Then their Myanmar friend (sorry I forgot his name) went back to Myanmar and we headed off to our next stop, the “Golden Triangle” – where the Ruak River merges with the Khong River and the 3 points of Myanmar, Laos, and Thailand meet. It was again another exciting moment as Woody was convinced that the Nava Tatong Boat tour company would get us into Myanmar as they marketed a boat ride to all 3 countries. So, of course we signed up, paid and jumped on the first boat for Don Sao Island in Laos. When we arrived we just jumped off the boat and we were in Laos – no border control or anything. I was so excited and easily fooled as it is an island in the middle Khong River full of trinket and souvenir shops – and there is nowhere to go but just on foot on this small Laos island. Anyway, it was a great photo op to show that I was in Laos. Plus the local people were very nice. Any currency was accepted – Lao Kip, Myanmar Kyat, Thai Baht, USD, EURO, etc. Then after some short sightseeing on the tiny island back on the boat to venture into Myanmar. NO WAY!!! Only a drive by, as the boat guy said that if we set foot onto Myanmar territory that he could not guarantee our safe return and it would require lots of $money$ to be allowed to leave Myanmar. So, Myanmar was definitely not in the cards for this trip. So, back to where we started on the Thai side to explore the giant Big Golden Buddha at Ban Sop Ruak, Golden Triangle. This Buddha is so high up in the air to be intentionally visible in all of the 3 surrounding countries. Worth seeing. It was starting to get late so they guys suggested that we commence the 5 hour journey back to Chiang Mai. Back in Chiang Mai, the guys insisted that I take a quick shower and that we go out on the Chiang Mai go-go bar scene to see: Circle Pub – 161/7-8 Soi Erawan, Changpuak Road – this was a very busy and great fun place with a very lively go-go bar show, including shower scene, and a sensual fuck show – where it is somewhat discreet to leave a little to the imagination. Woody introduced me to a guy from his hometown village who performs in the show – who is a H O T T Y – but Woody said, no wait, I want to show you one more bar. I was so ready to off him. New My Way bar – 3/5-6 Hatsade Sewee Road. Soi 3 – T. Chang Phuak – this bar is funky. It has seen better days and the dancers are somewhat more amateurish – especially when compared to Circle Pub. Here the guys were rougher and very local, but fun (between shows they were mixing with the crowd in a friendly way). The show was somewhat lame. I did not see anyone that I wanted to off so we called it a night. In hindsight, I should of told Woody to bring me back to the Circle Pub to see if I could have offed his hometown friend. Oh well, I left that to imagination and for a future repeat visit to Chiang Mai. Back to hotel and I kissed both Woody and his boyfriend Non (they finally confided with me that Non is his partner). By the way, they both work at the Classic Massage place that I reviewed earlier in this post – unfortunately when I visited they were already engaged with other customers. I would definitely like to play with them. But more importantly, they are EXCELLENT guides full of information and friends in other places that they introduce you to which enhances the trip experience. I was very impressed with Woody – being an ex-refugee and after 8 years being able to; become legal in Thailand, be a massage boy, and to open a tour guide business. His dream is to open his own massage place with a tour guide side business. I believe he will get it as he is determined, smart, and believes in what he does and he is a fun guy. Ok, this terminates my Chiang Mai, Chiang Rai, Mae Sai, Golden Triangle trip report. Next Trip Report will be for Koh Samui.

A masseur that I frequented for a while in Rome, Italy - always started his 2 hour massages with a "happy beginning" and then at the termination of the 2 hour massage there was the traditional "happy ending". His massage philosophy was to remove the sexual tension at the beginning of the massage so that the client would enjoy the massage more. As one of his customers, I could not agree more..... so, I am not sure if there is a "you only cum one time" rule......

what I try to do is when I feel the urge to cum is getting close I move the guys hand away or make him stop and do something else. However, many times, they insist and want to make you cum - in that case, just do as firecat suggested and point to the clock or your watch to make them understand that you have more time before the need to cum - this is also known as edging - stopping and going - to ride the pleasure to the edge of the end of the session. Good way to build up stamina and make the guys earn their $money$. Plus we need to remember that WE are the customer - not them!

yes, I am still alive. today is my first day back into Chiang Mai - for the last 2 days I was way up north in Chiang Rai, and then some time at the Myanmar border crossing town, Mae Sai, and then the "Golden Triangle" area with Laos. Now I am back in Chiang Mai and I will fly to Koh Samui later today. I haven't had time nor Internet access to finish off my wonderful Chiang Mai trip report. I promise to do it - I just don't know when - things are moving too fast at the moment.... cheers, M.

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For New Year's Eve day and night I decided to relax and at the suggestion of the wonderful C17 staff decided to remain on site. Had a nice leisurely breakfast and had a great conversation with a 50 year old already retired farang from the UK (yes I am jealous). He is preparing for his relocation to Thailand and he bought a condo in Pattaya that is still under construction and he hopes to move in later in 2014. Since I am also very interested in retiring in Thailand I seized the opportunity to ask my million questions - mainly, "why not retire in Chiang Mai?" (since he was raving about CM). He said he chose Pattaya because it is on the seaside and it is very oriented towards the ex-pat community. He felt that CM did not yet have the same level of ex-pat infrastructures and by him living in Pattaya he could easily fly over to Chiang Mai when he would want. I sensed that he had a preference for the CM guys over the Pattaya guys. does anyone reading this who lives in Chiang Mai have any comments/opinions on what it is like for an ex-pat to live in CM? Then I decided to lay out in the sun - the Club One Seven (C17) has a great penis shaped pool. There is the on site bar, pool boy, and massage boys, who could ask for more to have a relaxing day. Then I took a massage with sexy 30 year old Kim. Massage was 90 minutes and I paid 800 to the house and I tipped Kim 1,000 baht. Of course there was the sensual happy ending but it was somewhat mechanical for my tastes and lacked some variety. Kim was obsessed on finding a farang to marry so that he could move to the USA or Europe. He said that the only good farangs are already in a relationship and taken and the rest are butterflies. To kill his conversation and where it was going I told Kim that I was a butterfly to avoid being asked to marry him. Then I had lunch on the terrace on the Ping river which was lovely and I had some great conversations with the wait staff and other farangs. Then off for a nap in my room. Then for the evening I wandered over to the bar and chatted with the staff to see what I should do for New Years Eve. They said that I should remain at the hotel for the naked party. I had been invited back to the "2 Brothers" bar for their party and I had thought to go to the Adam's Apple go-go bar for their celebration. I decided to stay at C17 since I already had a lovely day with them and I had not yet sern their sauna facilities. Disrobed and put on a towel to explore the facilities. I was surprised at how big they are. On the ground level, There is the locker area, showers, dry sauna and wet sauna where everyone was walking around with their towels on. Then up stairs, where you needed to remove your towel and shoes, was the naked zone. There is an inter-mix of cabins, hallways, open sex areas with beds, video porno sala, glass wall looking onto downstairs where you can see the new guests that are arriving and another dark room. Then there is another upstairs to a semi-closed area with a big bed, and a hallway with many cabins. We were about 30 guys of which 6 were falang. The guy from lunch had told me that the prior weeks naked party had 150 participants (speaking to the staff they told me that the exact count was 154). The space is very large and could easily accomodate 154 people spread out on 3 floors. For just 30 of us, the space was too large and in typical gay sauna fashion we walked kilometers in endless stand and model chases. I knew then that I had made a mistake for my New Years Eve choice. :<(( However, I did get to watch two hot Thai guys that wanted to show off fuck each other - but I was not allowed to touch them. That was pretty much the entire night - ok to look at the cute Thai boys but you could not touch them (except there were 2 that did touch me but they were not the type of Thai guys that I desired). So in the end, I was only able to play with another farang but after he came he ran away - so no orgasms for me. I am not much of a sauna guy to begin with as I hate the endless chase as it is a waste of time. I guess I thought "this time would be different" - but it wasn't - so I was angry at myself for making a bad New Years choice. It made me remember when I moved to Italy in 1999 when I visited the various Italian saunas and I saw how badly the Asians were treated as they were not desired and made to feel not welcome. Now I know what that feeling is like, "as I felt like the Asian in the Italian sauna last night". After going back to my room and sulking for a while I went outside on the balcony and saw an amazing sight for my sore eyes, the sky was full of kongming sky lanterns which illuminated the sky above the Ping river. They brought tears to my eyes and I was happy to be in "Amazing Thailand".

thanks Bob for this wealth of information about how the mass transit system works in Chiang Mai. It's a shame that this board does not organize the different threads by each of the Thailand cities. There is a wealth of information here but most of it is focused on Bangkok and Pattaya.

Vinapu - it has been chilly in the evenings with the temperature dropping down to 11 or 12 degrees and you need a jacket or sweatshirt/jumper. During the day it reaches 26 with nice blue skies, so a t-shirt and shorts are just fine. oops, I forgot to put one of the most important details in my report = PRICE. Prices are MUCH cheaper than BKK. The massage place wanted 1,200 baht for the 2 hours and the recommended tip was only 800 baht per guy for the 2 hours. In BKK it was often 1,500 per guy. I tipped them 1,000 each instead of the suggested 800. Happy New Year to you!! Trailrider - I knew I was ripped off - but my legs were tired that I was willing to pay any price to not walk another step. I see the songtau (red trucks) everywhere and I did not understand how they work. do you just hail one down and tell them (or show them the desired destination on your smartphone map) where you desire to go? or do they follow a fixed route and you hope off when you are close enough? thanks for the compliment. cheers, m.

Flew Bangkok Airways from BKK to CNG Chiang Mai. Flight was delayed 30 minutes due to late arrival of aircraft. Flight is short and pleasant, about 55 minutes. Fun began at the Chiang Mai airport - luggage quickly arrived but there were NO taxis and there was a huge number of people waiting for the limited number of taxis. After about a 50 minute wait, I was in a taxi and within 15 minutes I was at my hotel, Club One Seven - C17. http://www.clubonesevenchiangmai.com/ Hotel check-in was quick and easy - they only have 11 rooms. The guy brought me to my room but this being an antique 130 year old Lana Teak House you need to remove your shoes and I leaned on the side railing of the stairs to leverage myself and I immediately broke one of the wooden teak slats with my fat ass. How embarassing and what an awful way to begin my 6 day stay. I guess I need to continue dieting - the last time that I checked I was down to 78kg. But in typical great Thai "save face" style the manager said to me, "mister, it ok, house is very old". I have a nice room that overlooks the Ping river with a small outdoor terrace. The room has a large 4 poster bed. You feel as if you are staying in the country side. Breakfast is served outside in the terrace alongside the river. Prior to 5pm you feel that you are in an antique gay hotel but after 5pm the place starts to transform as the sauna activities start to pick up and all of a sudden we have many new cute Thai "guests". I have not yet tried the sauna yet - sorry guys - there hasn't been any free time yet with all there is to do in Chiang Mai. Unpacked my luggage and headed off to the "old walled city with a moat" which was about an hours walk away as the C17 is pretty far away from both the historic centre and popular Chang Phuak gay zone. I arrived on Sunday so that I could take advantage of the 1 time per week Sunday Walking Market. I think that this is the biggest open air market that I have seen in my life. It was packed with people just walking around enjoying the many concerts, handcraft shopping, art, performers, religious ceremonies, and incredible "food courts" that were set up in each of the grounds of the 3 or 4 Wats (Buddhist Temples) that I visited. I ate wonderful things that I have never eaten before. It was truly delightful to have seen this event for the several hours that I was able to. If you do visit Chiang Mai try to make sure that your visit includes a Sunday evening on the "Walking Street". I was so exhausted afterwards that I took the first tuk-tuk that I could find and payed the asking price of 200 bahts back to the hotel. Sauna already closed so I did not encounter any action (I would have been too tired anyway). Next day after the wonderful breakfast I headed off by foot to discover the Nimmanhaeminda and Chang Phuak gay zone. It took about a 2 hour leisurely walk to get there and it was nice to see the contrasts in the various Chiang Mai neighborhoods. The gay zone is in a nice newer part of Chiang Mai with nice shops, bars, and stores, with many new condo buidings being constructed. I had hoped to have lunch in one of the gay restaurants but it being both a monday and also a government holiday (making it a 5 day weekend) the ones I had hoped to go to were closed for lunch. So walking back towards the centre I ate lunch in the big mall (Kad Suan) on the Huay Kaew Road - it was full of falangs which I found interesting. Again exhausted, I took the first tuk-tuk from the mall to the "2 Brothers" massage place which is in the cool hippy backpacking hangout area of Chiang Mai which is near the main gate to the old city. To no surprise I chose the 4 hand 2 hour massage from 26 year old O (โอ) and 24 year old Aok (โอ๊ค). Showered alone and awaited their arrival in the small room with a low futon bed. Their massage was an excellent intense deep tissue massage for over 1.5 hours which is what I needed after all of the 2 days of walking. The "happy ending" was in the remaining 30 minutes and was less intense but ok. Then we showered together which was a lot of fun. Afterwards, I told them that I wanted to buy them a drink in the downstairs bar and we hung out for about an hour together before they were taken by new arriving customers. It was great because I got to see how the other massage guys are chosen by the other customers. I realized that my choosing style is very polite and shy like while I saw other customers reject and then re-select the same guys that they already chose. Maybe it was a power thing. I tried to get the various massage boys to help me find a gay tour guide as I want to go out of Chiang Mai to see the mountains, jungle, elephants, and possibly the famous white Wat in Chiang Rai. With their limited English we did not get very far - but it looks like we are close to finding a gay guide who can drive and speak English. http://www.2bmassage.com/ Wanted to take a short nap and either try out the sauna or head over to the Adams Apple go-go bar but my body slept until 23 - so I could not try either - so I wrote this trip update. Tomorrow is New Year's Eve and they are having a party here - so I will check it out... hopefully my report was not too boring. This portion of my trip will be more cultural as Chiang Mai does not have a Twilight zone like in Bangkok.

My last night in Bangkok Checked out the Uniman massage place and thanks to Vinapu‘s great directions from his November trip report of the BKK massage places, I was able to find it very quickly in the Korean Town building on the 4th floor. Upon walking in the guys lined up right away for the selection process. There were about 20 guys available. They are very different than the other massage places that I have gone to - they are on the rough side with that hot “working man“ look. They were older guys in the 28 to 37 year old range with a nice selection of body types. The man called Pu (age 36) got my immediate attention with his beautiful rough smile and nice muscled naked torso. This time I did not want to divide my attention ordering my typical 4 hand 2 hour massage. Instead, I took a 2 hand 2 hour massage. We went up to the room and as written in other posts about Uniman - the roomss have seen better days - it has that 1970s look as well as the shower - but it all worked well together as the guy was rough and so was the room. Pu gave me an EXCELLLENT massage - it was very strong and he found ALL of my muscle knots and worked them out right away. The massage was so good that I fell asleep - something that I NEVER do. The final part, the “happy ending“ was good and rough guy like - as if we were 2 car mechanic friends who decided to jerk off together. So, I give Uniman a “thumbs up“ even if it is in need of a home decor make over. Had dinner at Dick‘s Cafe and watched the electric scene out on the Twilight soi. After my great dinner (it was 10:45pm) I asked the waiter which go-go bar would he recommend for my last night having already been to Classic Boys, Dream Boys, Bangkok Boys, Zeus, and Tawan. He said, you MUST go to Jupiter 2002. So off to Jupiter I went and it was standing room only when I entered. It was SUPER packed and there were HOT guys already on the stage in the middle of their show. Prior to this moment, Dream Boys had been my favorite go-go bar - but rapidly Jupiter became my new favorite. Why? The show is less sleazy (there is no fuck show) and there is less dick in your face. But, instead they use a "hide and seek" approach, which is very stimulating and erotic. For example they have some sexy hot guys dancing on the stage with towels being moved in such a way that you get a 2 second glance at their enormous hard cocks and sexy ass muscles. In addition there was a hot shower soap seen in a shower with transparent glass where the boys put a lot of soap on the glass to create that “yes I can - no I can't see that hard cock“ effect. Many years ago, we had a similar shower show at the famous Muccassassina disco bar in Rome. So, I would say that Jupiter is a go-go bar with class that tries to stimulate you in an erotic way. In addition, the individual show scenes are short and intense and fun. In between the 2 shows the boy fill the stage, there must have been about 30 of them on the stage, to strut their stuff hoping to be picked. The Jupiter customers last night were about 85% Asian with at least 1/2 under the age of 40. The remaining balance were us falangs. I did not see any women there. What I found shocking was that I had to compete for the guys on the stage with a very young guy from China - he must have been about 28 and offed the guy that I wanted who was about 30 before I could make my first move. This totally surprised me - as in all of the other go-go bars it is usually the older guys offing the younger guys and not the other way around as I saw in Jupiter. So for my second choice I immediately set my eyes on number 5, called Jon - a nice 26 year old with a very cute smile and beautiful teeth. I rapidly asked the waiter to have him sit with me (before another young Asian beat me to it) and we chatted and we agreed that he would come back to the Babylon with me. He has a car, Jon is from Bangkok and he drove me back to the Babylon. He told me that he is 1 of 5 kids in his family and that no one knows about his secret life. We had a great time in bed even if I had to do more than him - I could tell that this guy did not have much experience in bed with men and he is most likely taken to be idolized. But more than idolize him I serviced him so well that he said, "Wow, it was so good". He finished me off and we both showered and then I paid him the standard 2,000 (no taxi money required as he has his own car). Unfortunately I don‘t remember the off bar fee but I think it was 600. Please correct me if I am wrong. Ok, I am leaving Bangkok a very happy and satisfied man - even if I was not able to realize my dream of meeting Noom the character from the bangkokbois blog, “I fell in love with a bar boy“ series. Hopefully I can meet Noom on another trip back to LOS. Now waiting for my plane to Chiang Mai. I will terminate this travel report as its focus was on BKK and I will start a new one for Chiang Mai.

hello, welcome to the wonderful world of BKK you wrote, If you've been to BKK before, do you prefer to just offer money boys for fun, or prefer finding locals who are looking for real romance? Money boys - it's easier to negotiate and cut to the chase Locals (not money boys) - the sex is less of a transaction and includes real feelings I had the same exact questions/issues in my head before I came to Thailand. I voted for option 1 - money boys. why? because its your first vacation to BKK and the hunt for the go-go and massage boys is VERY exciting - especially in the context of the specific venues in which you do the hunting. It is a very unique and stimulating experience and can only be done in those places. So, to get the maximum out of your vacation - go for the money boys. Forget about the locals and real romance and Gay Romeo - those are all things you can do back in your home country and are not unique to BKK. Go for what makes BKK unique and special. Have fun and we look forward to your trip reports posted here.

hello xiluzer I love your reports - they are great. to post pictures you need to click at the bottom of the screen on the "more reply options" and in the new screen that will appear there is an option to browse for your picture to upload it. Then click on preview to make sure that it appears and if you are happy with the result click on the post button - then the picture should appear.

Vinapu - today I had a good day - I felt like you going at almost your full cycle. woke up at almost 1pm - read some internet stuff and headed over to the Eat Me restaurant off the Convent street but they were not open - they only open at 3pm. So I went to the Coyote bar/restaurant and ate a great Taco Salad. To date I have not had breakfast at Babylon as the stop serving breakfast by 11am - so this is a negative for me as the first thing that I must do everyday is to search out a place to eat. You would think that gay hotels would understand the needs of many of us late nighters. Then I went to my favorite massage place, Guy Spa (28/7 Sukhumvit 19 near the BTS stop Asoke - behind the Uno Hotel). I reguested a 2 hour 4 hand massage and I chose the 2 guys myself and then asked the mamasaan if they would work well together and he said they would. One guy was from Chiang Mai (I forgot his name) and the other guy was from Myanmar (a first for me) and his name was Ban. They were both about 25 years old. First Ban scrubed my feet in a wooden bucket of water in the reception area which was busy - there were many customers coming and going and about 20 guys available. Then we headed upstairs and we took a shower together which was erotic. Then they started the cream massage with me laying on my stomach and themgiving me a very strong massage. Then I turned over and they massaged everywhere but the happy ending zone causing a build up of anticipation. Then they moved in for the kill, with the Myanmar guy going too fast and was told to relax and the Ching Mai guy gave a GREAT edging massage to my cock - he had an incredible talent in the way he massages cock - then after a while the mutual Big Bang in 3 happened and we headed off to the shower to clean up. It was a great experience - but not as good as my first time at the Guy Spa last March (read that trip report to see the difference). Paid the same prices as reported by Vinapu for his 4 hand massage. Then I was starving so I headed over to Firecats suggested place to eat at the Firehouse (3/26 Sukhumvit 11 - at the very end of the street turn left and you will see it on left hand side). As written by many people here in this forum, the have one of the best hamburgers that I have eaten in my life. Be warned, the place is small and fills up fast and they turned many people away that did not have a reservation - I was lucky as I arrived just as the rush started. Went back to th Babylon to rest and then change clothes for the night out. First stop was Maxi's bar on the Twilight for a beer and to watch the action. It was about 11:10pm and the Twilight was hoping. As reported by Vinapu, you have an excellent view from Maxi's of the other go-go bars and massage places with the guys sitting outside. Then at midnight I headed into Dream Boys where I had a great time - first with the cute bar guy from Chiang Mai who took my drink orders and sat with me giving me comments on ALL the guys up on the stage - it was like having your own NSA spy or Wikileaks report. The 12:15am show is much shorter than the 10:30pm show. There are only 3 short acts and everything takes place downstairs on the smaller stage. The shows were not as good as 2 nights ago, but that was ok, as the objective was to off the man with the biggest cock and he is 32 year old Akom from Isaan. One of you wrote that the biggest cocks come from Isaan in Thailand and I can say to date it is true. :>)) we basically just chuckwowed (reciprocal JO) but I was evil as I tried to keep him on the edge for quite a while and at least 2 times when he was going to cum I lightened up my touch to make him work for that orgasm and when he did he let out a big masculine yelll and he was tired but he still managed to get me off. It was hot fun to play with and worship a hot straight man. I think the off fee to the bar was 1,100 (it was combined with the drinks total so it was hard to decipher) and I gave the guy 2,000 plus 100 taxi money.

ok, I solved the mystery about the origins of the mysterious number 65 - where it came from and why it creates confusion for those seeking to find the Hero massage place. as you can see from the attached business card, their legal street address is: 65 Soi Chaiyod, Sukhumvit 11 since Hero does not keep its own web page, it becomes a victim of random internet users posting its address with several various permutations, such as the one that I found of : Sukhumvit 65, Soi 11. so lesson learned - if a business does not maintain its own web page, be careful on what to trust from the internet....

Yesterday I went to MBK for some shopping - I do love that place - everything that you can immagine (and more) all under one roof with some VERY good prices. For example, a fake Armani shirt for 700 baht (17 euro) where the real one back in Italy would cost 4,200 baht (100 euro). I found the following address for Hero Massage from the internet at 65 Sukhumvit Soi 11. I put that address in my smartphone map navigation program and it told me to take the Sukhumvit BTS to the Ekamai station, which let me out at 63 Sukhumvit. I walked to 65 Sukhumvit and then walked and walked and walked trying to find Soi 11. Unfortunately, 65 Sukhumvit becomes Sukhumvit 71 after Soi 10 - there is NO Soi 11. So I walked back to the main Sukhumvit where there is the BTS line to ask the local mocy drivers for help. Unfortunately noone could help me. So, I returned to the BTS station and a cute mocy boy stopped me and said to me, "you call friend I speak". I called Hero and the mocy guy spoke to them and the problem was resolved - but it required a hair raising nervous 30 minute drive through rush hour traffic. The correct address is Soi 11 (near the Nana BTS station) which is off the Sukhumvit - the number 65 has nothing to do with it. So much for using technology to your advantage. I tipped that great mocy guy very well - he was an amazingly great driver and smart at solving problems. so ventured into the Hero Massage place needing a stiff drink but settled for ice water when I saw ALL of those HOT and sexy guys behind the giant glass wall. There must have been at least 30 guys - it was around 7pm and the reception area only had two other customers who were also choosing. What a sight for sore eyes. I told the mamasaan that I wanted a 4 hand 2 hour massage and then I picked out what I thought were the 2 hottest guys. I asked the mamasaan to go and see if the guys would have any problems working together. He returned to tell me and said, "one is man the other is gay". I said no problem and then the guys brought me into a nearby room and we disrobed and took a sexy shower together. Then they put me on a marble slab to give me an intense rub down. Then we washed off together and dried ourselves and went into the next room where the bed is to start the cream massage. By this point I understood that the gay guy is very queeny for my tastes (but very entertaining). That big glass wall in reception that separates the customer from the guys - does not help you to understand if the guy has a masculine or non masculine voice - something that is important to me. Anyway back to the fun. So after they finished massaging my back and front with a combined Sports Sensual and Traditional Thai massage (which was excellent by the way) we took yet another shower (very clean guys I must say). Then we dried ourselves and we got back into the bed. The gay guy started to kiss my neck and cheecks while I caressed his hot body meanwhile the man put on a condom and tried to start to penetrate me when I said to him, "wait, I am man like you". He replied, "Ok we fuck gay guy" and then the gay guy screamed in ecstasy in a girly way - he could not wait any longer and sat on my cock after putting on the condom while I tried to caress the sexy man guy. Then we switched roles and the man massage guy fucked the gay guy while I caressed both of them - it was very hot. Then they chuckwowed me and we all came together and then had a fun final shower together. The rapport between them was very entertaining, as Ping, the 24 year old gay guy is from Bangkok and Jon the 26 year old man guy is from Chiang Mai - so there was a lot of rivalry between them on "who does it better". So, Hero is definitely all worth what everyone writes about. The house asked for 1,400 for the 2 hours and the guys got 1,500 each plus an extra tip for their great and entertaining performance. Hero could do ALL of us a great service by creating their own webpage to avoid confusion on finding the place and implement a way to let us hear the guys speak during the selection process, as the glass blocks this important step. Then went to eat dinner and then back to the hotel and remained in for the night as I was too tired for the 12:15 Dream Boys show. So that shall be for tonights adventure.

sorry for letting you down vinapu - but the backstory on why I slowed down on the massage and go-go visits was because I was fighting off the early beginings of a sore throat and an attack in the bowels. It has been chilly here in the evenings (and I did not bring a jacket) and driving around on the mocys with the cold breeze killed my throat. Plus on this trip I challenged myself to eat from the food carts, as the food is SO good, but it seems that something has set my system off. So, I am remedying the situation for the throat with propoliz spray and the bowel problem by switching my diet back to western food and consequently, tonight I was able to venture into the famous Tawan muscle go-go bar, www.tawanbarbangkok.com/eng/ They put on a good show (not as good as the acrobatic show I saw at Dream Boys). The Tawan guys cannot dance very well, as their huge muscles get in the way. They did the typical showing off of their muscles by striking various poses, followed by a fucking show where they came down off the stage and placed the persons being fucked onto various customers to get that in your face feeling, then a lame love story, and a finale with a jerk-off contest with 3 muscle guys to see who could shoot their load the farthest. The mamasaans encouraged the customers to give money tips to the various JO contestants to encourage them on. It was hot and I placed a bet on contestant number 3 and it was the right choice, as his load shot to the end of the stage right up to the customers sitting in the front row. hot,hot, hot!! I offed a sexy 40 year old muscle guy called Silom (is there such a name?). Back at my room he started things off with a hot massage and then things progressed from there. It was hot and worth the 2000 going rate. Not bad considering that I heard that Dream Boys guys ask for more - so I will have to return to Dream Boys to off a guy to see how it works.... so vinapu, are you happy that I am back in service? :>)) cheers, m.

Since the Babylon is so near the Lumpini Park I ventured there yesterday. It's very lovely and reminded me of being in Central Park in New York with all of the skyscrapers in the background. I did manage to come across a monitor lizard. I tried to get close to take a picture but not close enough. They are amazing creatures - like something from Jurassic Park just wandering about in Bangkok's Central Park. I also walked by the famous outdoor gym where all the buff macho Thai guys were working out. What bodies and testosterone. I saw a couple of people-like-us sitting on nearby park benches - I would immagine for a post workout hook-up.....so, Lumpini Park is well worth a visit. I was still feeling hung-over from the night before (I normally don't over do it but last night being in 4 different go-go bars did me in) so I decided to rest by the pool at Babylon. It was nice and relaxing and very quit, as us gay falang can be when everybody is being in that cautious I don't know you mood. Then around 5:15pm off to start the long journey to the otherside of Bangkok in rush-hour to meet Christian for dinner in the famous backpacking shopping tourist zone called, Khao San Road. First MRT to Silom, then change to BTS to the Saphan Taksin station to transfer to the Chao Phraya River boat service, exiting at the Phra Arthit Pier. Total transit time was 1.5 hours - which included the extra time at Silom as the first train to arrive was too packed to be able to get on. Met the infamous ChristianPFC at around 7:25pm and we had a nice pizza together. For me it was great to ask him a million questions about what it is like to live and work in Thailand - as I also have this wish for myself if I can manage to win an interview competition that we will have next year for a new position that will be created in our Bangkok office. Then Christian took me to the nearby gigantic night market which is on the way to Saranrom Park, our objective for the night. Basically, you walk an entire area that consists of the outer perimeter of Saranrom Park and the Grand Palace, which takes around 35 minutes to make one loop. On the first loop there were only a few boys out and about. For me, the most interesting ones were on the river side of the Grand Palace along the sidewalk opposite more towards the river. There was also an interesting bunch on the road between the Grand Palace and the park itself on the park side walk side. The boys were super friendly to Christian as he speaks Thai and is young looking like the boys. Things picked up on our 2nd loop with even more guys out and about. Perhaps I saw about 15 to 20 guys - but spread out over a vast distance - some were solo and others were in small groups of 3 to 4. What was the most amazing to me was the older men in taxis driving by trying to chat up the boy from inside the taxi from the window. I have never seen anything like this and I can only immagine the stories that the taxi drivers have to tell. Like in the go-go bars, you have to be fast to get the cuter guys because with only 20 guys available the people in private cars and taxis had a clear advantage over Christian and myself. Christian mentioned that tonight was a slow night and that there are usually more boys out and about. On the third loop, Christian and myself, we parted ways and went in opposite directions. I chatted with 2 different boys along the way - but the first guy wanted to know where Christian was and the second guy could not speak English. So, it being almost midnight and after hiking for more than 2 hours, I called it quits and took a taxi back to Babylon. So, would I do it again? Probably not, as the area is just too vast that one must cover on foot. I would have prefered a smaller more dense area. However, it was a fun and stimulating adventure, even if I did go home alone. I think Twilight and Silom 2 and 4 are more my cup of tea. Thanks Christian for the great adventure....

so after the hair treatment, I then went back to the hotel for a nap - too much walking - as the negative about Babylon is that it is kind of far from Silom and Twilight. I often walked it - it takes about 45 minutes if you don't get lost like I sometimes do. Later in the evening I went out for the night to The Zeus - formerly Ocean Boys - with the hope of finding Noom. No luck, mamasaan checked for me and confirmed the Noom does work there but went home. So I offed Ton, a sexy 30 year old guy from Laos who by the way worked for 3 years with Noom at Hotmale. Ton also told me that Noom went home for a while. So it seems that the search for the illustrious Noom is over yesterday, I went shopping at Siam Paragon to buy various requested stuff for friends back in Italy. Like Firecat says, the mall was all decked out for Christmas in a very beautiful way. It is pretty amazing that a Buddhist country is so into Christmas. Even my hotel, Babylon, has transformed their beautiful Thai gardens into a Christmas wonderland. Anyway, there was lot's of exciting eye candy at Paragon to view. Then I went back to Cutey and Beauty for my first ever pedicure. It was great as they transformed my rugged feet into nice feet. When I left I felt like I had a pair of new feet. They are great guys over at Cutey and Beauty. Then I was walking around crowded Silom and a cute boy grabbed onto me and asked me to follow him and he brought me to Fanclub on Soi Convent. As we were walking away from Silom I thought to myself why am I allowing myself to be led away by a complete stranger - then I remembered that I am in "Amazing Thailand". So we enter Fanclub and with the mamasaan I selected the 2 hour 4 hand massage with coffee scrub and I picked 2 very sexy guys - I believe they were between 28 and 30 years old. They brought me upstairs to the last floor to a big room with a big massage bed and seperate shower area. At first I thought that the coffee power scrub was going to take my skin off as it felt like sandpaper. Then after thay finished that part we took a shower together to remove the coffee scrub mixture. Then we moved onto the cream massage - my favorite part. For the final part, they made the "happy ending" long and intense. Consequently they were tipped very well (I will not mention the amount as I do not want to cause problems with the other post regarding "they are paying too much"). One guy was from Issan and the other was from the very south near the border with Malaysia. Massage package cost 1,400 paid to the house - well worth it. Back to the Babylon guest house for a nap and then afterwards to meet Firecat at Classic Boys where I watched him off a VERY sexy and cute boy. Check out his Xmas post that has pictures of the sexy boy and my comments relating to the rest of the night at Dreamboys and Bangkok Boys and going home alone because I drank too much. One of the great pleasures (at least for me) of this board is to pass from "virtual reality" to "reality" - for instance to meet and know the wonderful Firecat last night and then tonight I will meet Christian for dinner and a tour of the night market and then a tour of Saranrom Park. More than the info that this great board provides is the availability of its members to meet up. More to cum later regarding my Christmas Eve adventure with Christian....

I could not agree more with this statement. I went home to New York at the end of September for 1 month and I was picked out of the line for "a special interview". The TSA lady made it sound like I won a prize and said come with me. When I responded to the question that I have lived out of the USA since 1999 - they get weird and want to know every country you have lived in. They took my laptop from me and then wiped the external borders of it with a peice of paper. When I asked what were they doing with my computer they did not respond to me. Then they let me go. I don't believe that I will be retiring in the USA when I finish working. I hate the way they treat us "fellow Americans". If I complain to my family or friends they say that I am being un-American and un-patriotic. What happened to the America I left in 1999? I feel they have been brainwashed or body-snatched.....

you are so right. I am 52 and I already have started the great adventure to Thailand. It is simply amazing the number of young guys that want to hang out with you here in LOS with and without money boys. Where I live in Italy, most Italians don't want anything to do with older men. I had originally thought to retire in Italy but after seeing with my own eyes how Italians treat old men - there is no way I will retire there. Italy, like my native USA, is obsessed with youth, muscles, fashion, and showing off your financial assets. Here in LOS there is less of that. cheers, m.