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imagine the high feeling all of the local residents had after all of that bong smoke

Hi Shax, I was in Da Nang for 12 days last month and the number one app for meeting guys was the HeeSay (formerly BLUED) app. The ratio of available guys when compared to Grindr was 200% more found in the HeeSay app. The Hornet app had hardly any people posting. Good luck and enjoy

TIT - This Is Thailand - contradictions and always changing of the mind I read somewhere else that there are approximately 6.000 marijuana shops across Thailand and then all of the related upstream businesses (farms, cultivation, distributors, equipment, etc.). All of these will be interrupted and many people put out of work. Then there will be the above mentioned loss of income and related taxes to the government. In addition, with the government wanting to tax us "residents" (those of us who live here more than 180 days) - you wonder if this current government is trying to hurt its economy with the elimination of the marijuana industry and ability to attract foreigners who want to live here without this new additional tax burden and tax reporting....

so sad these photos - I hope that this phenomena does not spread to Boyztown and the Jomtien Complex (Supertown).

I had to go into Pattaya city from Jomtien twice last week due to birthday celebration activities. One time by songtaew (bahtbus) and as you wrote the traffic was jammed all the way up to where the songtaew starts for the return trip back to Jomtien (near the temple) - but now they are restricting 2nd road in many places from Boyztown for minor construction sites (we counted 6 of them) that restrict the 3 lane traffic down to 1 lane. So, you get the DOUBLE nightmare of part 1 (normal) + part 2 (new due to redoing already completed construction). For the 2nd trip we went by car and did as you said to turn right - so we avoided the above mentioned part 1 (normal) delay - but because we were going to a birthday dinner in Wongamat - we encountered all of the part 2 redoings of already completed construction traffic jams.... Does the mayor of Pattaya city every have to drive around in this traffic nightmare?

Very correct what you wrote. I try to only venture into Pattaya city from Jomtien 1 time per week - as that never ending traffic is so frustrating. And most of it is because of the NEVER ending road construction on roads that have already completed their road works months earlier.

Hello Olddaddy, I flew on Thai Vietjet Air directly from BKK Suvarnabhumi airport to Da Nang airport - flight time a little more than 1.5 hours. I rented an AirBnB for 12 days directly on the My Khe beach with an amazing unobstructed view of the beach, city, sea, and mountains from the 22nd floor balcony. On average, the daily temperature was 3 to 4 degrees cooler - mostly because the winds coming in from the South China Sea. Enjoy.

More info about my recent trip to Da Nang can be found in the below 3 links. https://www.gayguides.com/forums/topic/50942-i-may-do-a-side-trip/?do=findComment&comment=389766 https://www.gayguides.com/forums/topic/50942-i-may-do-a-side-trip/?do=findComment&comment=389909 Enjoy

Olddaddy - I escaped the water gun fights of Songkran to Vietnam and I had a great time. I was in lovely Da Nang on the South China Sea for 12 days and it was great. I used the local gay tour guide services of Lê anh - a cute fun guy (no sex - as I did not ask as I made separate arrangements for that as my Heesay app |formerly BLUED| was always FULL with meet requests). I asked him this morning if I can share his contact details here and he said yes. Line and Whatsapp Grindr and Heesay (formerly BLUED) Enjoy Da Nang as I found the prices to be 20% less than in Pattaya due to the poor performing Vietnamese currency (VND Dong).

one more please. I was at a birthday party last night and the conversation about all of the recent closures in the Complex came up. Someone mentioned to add Dorothy's Showbar to the below list: Lambada BC Dolce Vita Dorothy's Showbar 😒😪

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yes I agree 100% - there was one Oral Academy guy that I wanted to off and take home at all costs. I asked the owner to please help me make it happen. So, when the model finished his work I sat with him at the front part of the bar - near where the entrance is. He did not speak any English but the "woman" next to him did. So, I had to tell the woman all the details about what I wanted from him. She replied to me - Excuse me, but I am his wife - I send him here so that all of you can look at him - he is my baby - and he will only do what I tell him. She said, if you want him then you need to off the both of us - as a husband and wife team. I declined the offer as I wanted him ALL for myself. In my 9 years of working and living in Budapest - this type of above situation manifested itself more than one time. Many of the wives were punting out their husbands to bring in more income (bacon). I always found it amazing that the wives were never jealous. I became VERY close with one of these types of straight guys and I actually got to know the wife who liked me because she did not see me as a threat to their relationship. I saw her husband for 4 years - but in year 3.5, he betrayed her and used my name as his alibi. One night she called me frantically at home looking for her husband (he told her that he was with me giving me a massage) and instead he was out with another woman. I was so angry at him for using me as an alibi and not even telling me about it.

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Yes - Budapest's hey day was when the Action Bar was in its FULL glory. I lived in Budapest for many years and I went to the Action Bar almost every weekend. In addition to what you write above, on Thursday nights they had "Meet your Escort" night where you could meet many of the escorts that you would see in Hunqz or others who did not advertise. It was fun to meet them outside of the bedroom. Ironically, the former owner of the Action Bar is here as a retiree in Pattaya.

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I was in the Complex the other night and I noticed that DoubleShot was also closed. Is it temporary or permanent?

I say amen to what you wrote above. That is why I chose to retire in Asia and not Europe or the USA - where the attitude games are a daily ongoing frustration.

quick funny story to add to the flavor of this post back in 2011 when I moved back to Rome from Budapest I was in a new apartment and I was waiting for the Telecom technician to install my wifi box and setup my internet in my new apartment. He was sexy. When he finished his work, he said to me get your laptop so that we can test the performance of your new internet. I opened my laptop and then my Chrome browser and what pops up - the web page for CircolodelleSeghe - https://clubdelleseghe.forumcommunity.net/ Oh my God, the Italian jerk off club was in full view in front of the Telecom technician. I turned apple red and said excuse me so that I can test another web page. His reply astonished me - "Don't change the web page - I like to jerk off with other guys......" Next thing I know we are jerking off together - his cock in my hand and his hand on my cock..... Reminds me - we never did complete the internet speed test.... but he did a good job as everything was fast - hahahahahaha I tried to contact him again for more fun but he told me - "I am straight and married with kids....." I said - so what - all straight guys need to jerk off from time to time :>))

Wow - I am now living here for 18 months and I was not aware that there are several Pattaya baht bus routes. Above is mentioned, "Operating along the Route 4..." So, I queried Google and sure enough there are many routes - here is the source article: https://www.pattayaunlimited.com/getting-around-pattaya/ with a link to a custom Google map, image below: Prior to reading this article I was only aware of the Jomtien & Pattaya route and the Beach Road & 2nd Road Loop routes. The above map implies that there are in fact 8 routes = wow.... Everyday we learn a new thing....

Thanks for the compliment ichigo. This forum gives me so much enjoyment and information that I like to share whatever intel that I have with our fellow forum members. I spent the 2019/2020 New Year's Eve in lovely Phú Quốc and I had a great time. I have a funny massage story from Phú Quốc. I was walking in one of those narrow alleyways near where all the main hotels are that go from the main road down to the beach and there was this very sexy massage guy that convinced me to get a massage in his shop. The only problem was that there were no walls just a sheer type of sheet separating each of the perhaps 10 massage beds from each other. This guy got me so excited with a BIG erection while I was laying on my stomach and he kept massaging my dick but I could not moan too load or shoot my load as there were women and other straight customers to my left and right. When I rolled over onto my back we had to stop because things became too obvious. I left there so horny and frustrated. My only regret was to ask him for a way for us to continue in a more private place. To this day, I think about that moment. If I ever go back to Phú Quốc I will try to find him again but after 4 years already I am sure that he has moved onto other things by now....

I found my masseurs in the apps: HeeSay and in Grindr Note that the word "massage" is an illegal word to use within the HeeSay app - so everybody just uses a different version - I used "maxsage" and I had no issues with the HeeSay chat monitors and the Vietnamese audience was able to understand what I was looking for. I am a 4 hands massage afficionado and I had difficulties to arrange those in my AirBnB room - as the Vietnamese are much more conservative than their Thai counterparts - as they still need to hide what they do - as they are all expected to get married by their traditional conservative families. I told all of the guys who complained to me about this to find and marry an open minded lesbian who has the same predicament - which will allow: - the family to be happy with the desired facade, - they can live their lives with their respective man-to-man and woman-to-woman partners, - and if needed to produce children for their respective families - then it would be easier to organize within this open minded facade family structure Almost ALL of the conservative Vietnamese that I told this to - were like WOW - now how do I find an open minded lesbian? None of them knew of any lesbian bars, or apps where lesbians can meet. Is there a lesbian life in Vietnam? Thailand ? They all envied the openness of Thai society - as the gay Vietnamese community was very interested in the Thai government's idea to legalize same sex marriages. I digressed - too much free time as a retiree.... For 4 hands massages - I used this massage shop = "Spa 4 some" which is located at: 43 Tân Thái 6, Mân Thái, Sơn Trà, Đà Nẵng, Vietnam The contact details for this unique massage shop are: local phone number: 0363 640 356 WhatsApp number: +84363640356 email: bkhanhkaka@gmail.com The owner, (I do not remember his name) is very nice and he contacted me via Grindr and proposed his massage shop to me. Normally I don't frequent massage shops as I like to order in - and since this was difficult to arrange for the above stated reasons, I agreed to go to his shop. He has 6 guys that he works with and he arranged for me to have 2 of them (site unseen - as I wanted a surprise) for my 4 hands 90 minute meeting for a charge of 1.400.000 VND - approximately 2.000 baht - 50% of the price that I normally pay back in Thailand - so, Vietnam is so much cheaper because of the poorly performing VND (Dong) currency. The meeting was very good - professional 4 hands massage with a nice smooth transition into the elongated happy ending phase - I was a very happy customer. Lastly, the local guys in the chats use a slightly different mechanism to identify that they are for hire: - the most frequent one is CB or CallBoy or Call Boy - for our Thai equivalent of MB - Money Boy - for massage - they tend to use variations of Massa or Mass or some other iteration You will figure it all out as each country has its hidden secrets to discover :>) which is the joy of why we like to travel and discover.

I just returned from 12 days in Da Nang, Vietnam - as I needed to escape Thailand's Songkran water splashing madness. I LOVE Da Nang - a mid size city right on the South China Sea with little to no pollution as the winds from the sea keep things fresh. I live in Jomtien, Thailand and I found that Da Nang from a financial point of view to be between 20% to 30% cheaper than what things cost in the Pattaya area - I believe that is because the VND - Vietnamese Dong currency is not doing well at the moment. I hired a local gay guide to show me around and he was great - DM me if you want more info about him. No sex - but a great kind guy who has his own car and could take me out of Da Nang to nearby Hue (to see the imperial city), Hoi An where we went to the nearby off-shore island of Cham to do snorkeling and on return to Hoi An proper we visited the unique coconut island water farm in those typical round circular Vietnamese boats (this was one of the highlights for me on this trip to Da Nang). The other thing that I did was rent a motorbike for several days and I just LOVED driving out of Da Nang up into the surrounding hills where you have an amazing view of all of the beaches and the Da Nang city skyline off in the distance. Da Nang has 1 gay bar = https://www.facebook.com/qbardanang1 I did not visit it as I was too busy touring around and getting my daily massages in my lovely 22nd floor AirBnB that overlooked the entire South China Sea. To meet guys, the number ONE app is BLUED - now renamed to HeeSay. Hornet is not big in Vietnam like it is in Thailand. and then there is Grindr (which I hate). Just from the HeeSay app alone - I received over 300 messages in 12 days - truly off the scale - for sex, dates (even for just a romantic walk on the Da Nang seaside), massages, and general queries. Food was great and my gay tour guide turned me onto a different type of Vietnamese coffee - which is called - Cà Phê Muối = sea salt cream coffee - this is now my MOST favorite Vietnamese coffee. so, I guess I need to do a trip report - how do I hate those - as they are so much work to write a proper one with maps, photos, info, etc. - but I will do it eventually.

Getting exact dates for this year's 2024 Songkran festivities has been confusing because the local government extended everything to help the slumping local economy. Below is what the PCEC (Pattaya City Expats Club) posted in their recent newsletter about the Songkran dates which I used to book my flight to Vietnam to escape the water bazooka mayhem. https://mailchi.mp/6c8ad0cceeae/your-news-from-pattaya-city-expats-club?e=f32891168a

You and Moses both wrote the same response. I am well aware that nothing is done for "free". The point that I was trying to make is: In the 1980s in New York City (NYC) these types of concierge services and access to a type of bellboy service were readily made available to you by the building that you lived in. Yes you had to tip them - so it was not free and their salaries were in the condo assessment fee. Now in the 2000s these services are no longer readily available - except for the elite and ultra rich - due to cost cutting and outsourcing. Now in the 2000s (2024) what was once available in NYC in the 1980s is still available in Thailand in many of the large condo places. Yes it is not free - as their salaries are included in the condo assessment fee. But what is more important is that these concierge / bellboy services were not taken away from us in Thailand. So, by living in Thailand - you can have the joy of going back in time to the good old days and get services (not free) that were readily available in the 1980s that are still available in Thailand.