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I am totally with you @TotallyOz with what you wrote above. Thanks for sharing it with us. Especially the part about the "diamonds in the rough" - especially if it has sharp edges from a bad upbringing and/or unfortunate MB experiences --> or both. Those "sharp edges" can wound the both of you - but the potential emotional rewards and happiness can be unparalled.

It depends - if memory serves me correctly - gay camping and cruise walking "in the forest" .... proved to me that it is NOT hard to "grow boys in the forest" boys will be boys in the forest https://nomadicboys.com/gay-campgrounds-usa/

@jason1975 Great work with your new AI video creation skills. One of the things that i notice about these is that all of the belly buttons (navel umbilicus area) seem to be identical. Also, the packaging of what is in their underwear briefs. Does the AI software simply duplicate the 1st person onto the 8 other guys ? I see that the face and height of the individual guys are different - but much of the rest of their body is the same (as if to be duplicated).

@faranglaw thanks for posting this, as I believe that this is the NUMBER 1 reason why I joined, participate, and stay active in "OUR FORUM" = gayguides.com. It warms my heart when our responsible membership take care of our guys. On the other hand, it saddens me when we occasionally learn/read/discover that some of our members exploit our guys in a monetary and/or psychological way that is degrading to their wellbeing. In the end, we are all human - and we should be all treated with dignity.

YES, the water was MORE wet in the years prior to covid because the management of Boyztown made the experience more titillating, exciting, arousing, stimulating, and salacious. And do you know what all of these words do @vinapu ?? They make you MORE wet from the anticipation about what is to cum..... Unfortunately, the current Boyztown management (mainly BoyzBoyzBoyz) dried up the former wetness with their current BORING marketing practices and show formats.

@jason1975 I love it because of the song that you chose. I believe that is the SAME song that was played for the BoyzBoyzBoyz in Pattaya 9pm sexy red carpet march of the stage guys. I so do miss those yesteryear good times.

With all this negativity about Cebu - I guess the winner for my "where to retire" trifecta will be Da Nang - as it already meets: 1.) The Jomtien like hirise condos directly on the immense Da Nang seashore. 2.) Traffic in Da Nang is NOTHING like Manila, Bangkok, HCMC, Hanoi, Pattaya, and perhaps Cebu (as I still need to have my feet down on the ground to assess the actual traffic situation). But I still need to go through with this comparing retirement destinations excercise anyway, as actual field research is generally more reliable than just relying on hearsay. My preliminary research for gay life is that Cebu appears to have more to offer (bars, clubs, and saunas) than Da Nang does.

Unfortunately, Baguio is not on my list, as I am a sea view loving person. Nearness to the sea and sea view are one of my top 3 priorities for a retirement destination. Thanks for the heads up about the nasty Cebu City traffic situation. I am hoping that the traffic situation on nearby Mactan island Newtown beach area will be similar to the ok level of traffic that we have here in Jomtien. The secret to a happy traffic life here in Jomtien is to minimize the number of times that you need to venture into Pattaya City, as that traffic can be a nightmare.

I am about to embark on this adventure at the end of this month. I am currently a retiree in the Pattaya suburb = Jomtien - a small establishment directly on the Gulf of Thailand beaches with hirise condos all along the beach. Due to the new Thai government recently implementing unfriendly tax laws - I will scout nearby countries for alternate retiree solutions. I am trying to find the Jomtien equivalent in the Philippines - and this has been an enormous challenge to find beaches in the Philippines that have hirise condos directly on the beach like in Miami, Da Nang - Vietnam, and here in Jomtien - Thailand. It appears that most of the beach communities in the Philippines are underdeveloped and do not have clusters of hirise condo buildings with direct sea access. So, I will start my 2 month scouting adventure in Cebu City (near IT Park) - as it has the closest potential similarity to Jomtien - Thailand in nearby Mactan (island) Newtown Beach - as shown in the below map. If one would live in the heart of Pattaya City and wanted to get to the Dongtan gay beach then depending on traffic that would entail anywhere between 15 to 25 minutes. My preliminary research shows that to get from IT Park in Cebu City to the Jomtien area on Mactan island at Newtown beach entails 45 minutes depending on traffic. So I will live for a couple of weeks in Cebu City and then go over to Newtown beach and rent a place in one of the hirise condo towers there so that I can assess how similar it is as the retiree destination that I currently have here in Jomtien. I ruled out Manila as it is too big, crowded, congested, and a general traffic nightmare. For Davao, I could not find any seafront neighborhoods that have a Jomtien hirise condo on the sea feeling to it. @bobtpa1614502761 If you are aware of such places in Davao - please let me know. Thanks.

I am starting to believe that the answer is yes. I just have to figure out HOW to avoid that I become one of them. Do I need to change countries? Or perhaps relocate to a less jaded city in Thailand ?

I’ve heard this question a lot. While it may seem aimed at high-income individuals, the reality is that it applies to everyone. If you’re bringing foreign income into Thailand, it’s important to get ahead of the game with proper planning. And this is the MOST nasty part of what the Thai government has allowed to transpire. If you have passive income greater than the equivalent of $80,000 USD for the prior 2 tax years - you can qualify for the Thailand Board of Investment (BOI) LTR (Long Term Resident) visa, specifically the Wealthy Pensioner visa, which EXEMPTS you from having to pay tax in Thailand. Unfortunately, and unfairly, if your income is less than the equivalent of $80,000 USD, then you are possibly subject to the progressive personal income tax on funds that you transfer into Thailand - as per the below: So, we clearly have an example that these current Thai tax schemes are NOT targeting big fish. It is us little fish that are being targeted. What could be the rationale for this warped thinking ? Thoughts ?

Hahahaha This is NORMAL modus operandi for many of these guys. No shame. No guilt. No self control, No financial responsibility, etc. It is just amazing. After living here as a new retiree here for more than 2 years - I now see how to survive here psychologically and mentally --> in that you just need to become a grumpy non-heart cold jaded old bastard expat retiree. So sad, as I had not envisioned to have this kind of existence in the last years of my life.

And the bounce that his rock hard cock makes is one that says: Remove this blanket NOW and give me some strokes because I am so ready to shoot. 🍆💦💦💦

Below is today's YouTube from Benjamin Hart - an American Attorney with Integrity Legal, who became a Thai citizen many years ago. He is pretty hot under the collar about the Thai government's recent move to align with OECD's norm to align Thai taxes with the global standard before Thailand actually becomes an OECD member. If I understood correctly, I believe that these are prerequisite steps that you need to do as a country in order to qualify for OECD membership ? Kind of like what prospective EU countries need to do to join the EU via the EU Accession process ?

@spoon Why do you think that is? Why does a str8 MB have this very important understanding about finances and a gay MB does not?

And this is extremely hard. I have tried to engrain this mindset with several of the guys that I became close to over the years and I have failed in 98% of the cases. Why? Us as outsiders, we are fighting very strong cultural norms. Such as: 1.) Family back home is first and foremost priority - as the social security pension system here is intentionally inadequate by the government - because the government knows that the youngsters must take care of their elders. 2.) Poor families are often the ones who are intentionally sending 1 or 2 of their chosen children (once they are of legal age) down to Pattaya to earn easy money for the family. Often the child is pressured to do it for the family. 3.) Thailand is part of the collectivism mindset. I see this day after day here - if one person is down and out financially the others chip in to help. Unfortunately, due to the previously stated above 2 points + bad or zero education spent on financial saving and budgeting skills, this collectivism mechanism never allows any one individual to climb out of this downward financial spiral. The only way is for said Thai person to leave and/or remove himself from this group of friends - for which, 98% of the time they will not do it because then they would lose face. Therefore, I do not see a light at the end of the tunnel for our guys unless perhaps we remove the one that we care about the most by moving him out of Thailand? Thoughts?

Is 41 a lucky number?

And that decision was the beginning of the demise of BoyzBoyzBoyz (BBB) - as they eliminated what was fun for all of us - nude torso muscular men parading on the red carpet - as they now cater to the Asian female market - where they like their guys to walk around fully clothed - hence no need for an external gym to tantalize all of us while we waited for the 9pm parade. As stated by Vinapu, covid killed off the former exciting and unique BBB parade where the guys marched through ALL of Boyztown. Now that walkway is quite empty.....how sad. Covid has long left all of us but they refuse to bring back what worked. For the sake of historical fun red carpet parade memory: https://www.facebook.com/PanoramaPubPattaya/videos/the-boyz-boyz-boyz-parade-appears-to-be-back-with-the-best-view-from-panorama-pu/1856803917670027/ https://www.facebook.com/reel/395906382853548 https://www.facebook.com/BoystownPattaya/videos/บอยซ์ทาวน์-เปิดให้บริการแล้ว-เพลิดเพลินกับการแสดงเวลา-2130-น-คุณมีทางเลือกซ้ายหร/2869747523321074/?locale=ms_MY

I remember back in the day when Boyztown in Pattaya was still in its glory with the 9pm red carpet sexy boy march - there was a small gym outside of BoyzBoyzBoyz (BBB) where while waiting for the show to start you could watch the sexy gogo guys "warm up" their muscles for the red carpet march and then inside BBB for the on-the-stage take me home show.

All of this is so bizzare to me when you know the historical story of how Pattaya was transformed from a sleepy small fishing village into one of the sex capitals of the world. Just ask some of the 400,000 military personnel that were sent to Pattaya for R&R (Rest and Relaxation) during the nearby wars in the 1960s and 1970s. How many orgasms were released in that period - and hence "seeded" this industry that we see today in Pattaya? And was it not the Thai government that ok'd and facilitated this arrangement back in the 1960s and 1970s?

I already met with a Thai tax accountant and my new tax minimalization plan is already being executed, as I will live outside of Thailand for more than 180 days in tax year 2025 to avoid becoming a tax resident. This strategy will also let me test drive the Philippines and Vietnam in case I would need to vacate Thailand if they would implement the dreaded Global Tax Regime that is being pushed heavily onto this new government. As expats living here we have no rights --> but we can vote with our feet.

And this is what is frustrating about this new Thai government. The previous Thai governments resisted this pressure to conform that was being exerted on them by the OECD/WEF supranational organizations. What originally attracted me to Thailand many years ago was its uniqueness from other countries, as Thailand was never a colony of another nation that imposed its norms and culture onto Thailand. And in my opinion, this is what makes Thailand special and desirable. Now to see this new government to acquiesce to these external pressures - especially in light of the fact that Thailand resisted colonization for thousands of years is very disappointing. Even the Bangkok municipality government has recently started a movement to remove the street vendors and food carts from Bangkok's sidewalks --> because they now decided that Bangkok needs to be like Singapore. Really? This is crazy. These are the things that help to make Bangkok unique and original. To make Bangkok sterile like Singapore, in my opinion, would be a sell out of Thai culture. Why is Thailand suddenly deciding that "external ways" are better than "the Thai way"? It makes me so sad to see all of this happening.

The term side was coined in 2013 by the sex therapist and author Dr Joe Kort. https://lampoonmagazine.com/article/2023/12/07/side-sexuality-grindr-category-no-penetration-gay-top-bottom/#:~:text=Last year%2C Grindr added a,sexual act except anal penetration. I personally lobbied hard with the PlanetRomeo admins to add SIDE as a new sexual category shortly after Dr Joe Kort invented the new term way back in 2014. The above lampoon article gives all the credit to Grindr - but I believe that both PlanetRomeo and Hornet introduced the new SIDE category way before Grindr did.

yes I agree. Who knows, maybe someone here in this forum is thinking about this J temptation. By the way, it is not me. But I had a similar arrangement last year and when my previous employer called me back to Budapest to work for some months my Thai spies were keeping me updated with gossips and photos about what my Thai guy was up to. No surprises - as we had an agreement - that I could have fun in Budapest - with the stipulation that I would make videos of these encounters to share with him and he would share with me what he was doing back in Pattaya - and my spies gossips and sneaky photos were consistent with what he was telling me.

wow - what a GREAT idea. I never tried this. I will definitely give this a try.... Thanks for this tip.