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You are 125% right with your complain but how much of your 30000 you paid goes actually to the pocket of guy on reception you are dealing with on departure? Pont I'm making is that they are doing their job and my not have any leeway in pricing / charges.

Neither laugh or cry ,just pay. Quite possibly room attendant making 20 baht per hour or less would be charged by management for shortage in case of broken bottle or missing chocolate bar from the fridge. Being nice guy you don't want do this to people who smiled at you nicely every morning, afternoon and evening / and possibly even asked you if you want massage by them in your room /

I don't agree with you Nirish, on more than one occasion, taxi drivers of all people ! in Bangkok either told me to forget about last 5 baht or simply gave me higher change i.e. 20 baht from 100 baht bill on 85 baht fare. /last time in May on Grand Place-Vinamek trip /

for example you don't like coins in your pocket- 18 baht is at least 5 coins a so all this is neat trick by the greedy owner

Forgot to ask: you are picking up masseur from line-up or is assigned for you from rotation?

Thank you for the info, ' pamper place for a good massage ' is what I'm looking for mid-day, special services can wait till evening in the Boyztown. Will definitely visit Magnolia when will be there in Nov.

Exactly, in both US and Canada prices shown are almost always prices before tax so one never pays what is on the price tag but 3-15 % more unfortunately. Logic is that buyer can see how much tax he pays but this is crap-simply prices are looking lower. Petrol in one exception I can think of where you pay what you see. Sad to hear that this BS is creeping in Thailand.

How far Magnolia is from Boyztown hotels? Is walking suitable? I know about free shuttle but like to walk everywhere if possible, it's how I soak myself in the atmosphere and places/ and loose some calories too /.

As it happened to me at least 4 times over the years it's quite possible others had this dilemma to solve as well. You picked up boy and when both of you arrive in your room and getting ready you noticed that owing to dim lights at bar, too rosy glasses , one glass of beer to much or just fact that boy was half dressed on stage you overlooked something or did not have a chance to see it. Boy is not dud, is able, willing and getting hard , clean and smelling nicely but you know that encounter is spoiled already. Oddly shaped or deformed by botched silicone injection dick, ugly scar or warts hidden under briefs, hidden tattoo you hate, too much body hair or clean shaved pubes or whatever your turn-off is. Whatever it is, you hate it , your lust is melting, dick is shrinking and now what you do? -send boy away with or without explanation ? with full tip you'd pay or reduced one? or - pretend you don't see it , grab Cialis to go ahead gnashing tees in meantime and may be reduce his tip on departure, again with or without explanation or -keep boy but reduce / change your planned activities to whatever you can stand / or rather you can't stand/ converting your night of passion to some light body contact in completely darkened room or - it never happened so you are telling me I'm too hasty picking up companions or simply had bad luck / 2 times ugly silicone deformed dicks, 2 times shaved pubes / neglecting "check the wares" part before off. Red recently some old post about the same kind of problem and contributor proudly announced that sent boy away with token tip what I considered cruel treatment so looking for other opinions. I usually go long time .In all my cases being soft hearted I converted planned hot nights to quiet sleep-overs. Should I consider myself pervert for sleeping whole night next to naked guy without toughing his equipment even once ?

After reading about knives and machete in Christian's post I abandoned any desire to inspect Saronom Park at night , I'd rather pay extortionate off fees and drinks at Soi Twilight. Still tempted to see area during day, one never knows what may happen. Used street trade from Rama IV and Suriwong few times in the past but only for body contact and mutual wank only and took them to short time rooms at Suriwongse, somehow didn't feel like inviting them to my hotel room. My preference are massage boys , then go-go. MB only if I need some adrenaline boost.

owing to illness I was stuck at home for a few days and entertained myself by reading old posts on various forums. .It 's amazing that not much changed,7-8 years ago contributors were complaining about the same things we are nowadays- boring shows , expensive drinks and offs, puschy mamasans and loud music in Soi Twilight bars, handsome but lazy in bed boys from Jupiter, empty bars in Soi 6 wondering how they survive and longing for all good days few years ago. But interesting reads anyway

Not just you, rest assured. Or slightly lowered briefs with just a tiny bit of bushes visible - beats all of those big ****k shows in my book anytime

There are lots of people in the West who are driving cars, living in homes and hiring prostitutes they can't afford so I wouldn't blame Thai logic entirely,

and somehow pays for his mobile

and this is what makes bar hopping such a pleasant experience, even if we don't score just hunting makes it worth. And is nothing wrong in being picky, after all we are looking for somebody we spent very intimate moments or hours with so we should give a chance to ourselves and to the boy to make right move.

I only hope they still be there in November, this is very good news indeed, 'cute boyish muscular and extremely friendly' ,I can't ask for more.

fountainhall you are right, perspective of expats and repeat, multiple time visitors is different for those who are coming for first od second time. First group finds go-go bars boring, formula outdated and annoying mamasans not worth dealing with. And this will not change as novelty value for old timers is long gone. They are either not that interested in anymore or knowing their way around the problems with bars. IMHO if go-go are to survive onslaught of internet hook-ups and increasing competition from massage places they need to deliver whatever newcomers are coming for- stable of attractive young men on the stage , Newcomers did not discover yet that shows are boring -this comes with multiple visits. While internet is formidable threat to bar's business they will survive as there are plenty of people who prefer direct interaction with other warm bodies on the offer right away and are looking for time off not only from work ,suits, home etc on their vacations but also from their computer screens. And there always will be attractive boys fresh from the bus who do not have means and knowledge to organize their offer on internet sites

What do you mean no cute boy in the bus ? what about you?

There are some rumors that some less beefy but still well built boys appeared recently at Tawan , hope somebody will volunteer to inspect bar and place report. Recent post on CFS forum says that drinks at Dreamboys are 380 and off fee 600. This means outlay of 1000 before one even toughs boy's d***k . But you may be right-owner knows his clients and is cashing in. But this is very unwelcome move and hope it will not work. I'd rather spend money on the boy than bar. Low number of boys is not necessary a bad thing as long as one can find somebody attractive. When I peeked inside last time out of 4 boys at Nature , one was definitely offable at least by me. So there's hope. Too much choice is creating confusion as of whom to pick

Market economy at works I guess. May be there is grain of truth in circulated wisdom about stingy Pattaya expats. As long as bars are full this is good news. If we love Asian boys why Asians shouldn't ? When I red your Jupiter statement I recalled that during my last time there only handful farangs were in audience for a show so you must be right

Now I'm scared Christian, I 'm planning to start my sightseeing with Tawan and Dreamboys when I'll be in Bangkok in November , never been to Tawan and Dreamboys is one not visited for longest time. As sworn butterfly I rotate bars in order. Hope I will not show any attitude when there. As for Jupiter I still think is best bar for show & eye candy and mamasans are not pushy at all but understand what you say as I was not happy with my last ' business ' meeting with boy from that bar. But may be it was lack of chemistry. Will visit them when their turn comes, not any time soon as this was my last bar visited on the last trip so landed at end of line anyways .

We all say ' never again ' but sooner or later we are back in THE SOI watching shows and passing traffic as there's no place like that anywhere

Good for you. Staying in company of permanently unhappy people sooner or later becomes contagious disease and one becomes the same. I'd call him once a year him at Christmas for old time sake to show you are not bitter.

Did anybody used massage services of that apparently very popular Thonburi venue near Wongwian Yai BTS station? looking for feedback, thank you

Quite often I found that trying to convert boys from top to versatility is money well spent. Not much success but trying can be fun, works better on long time offs though. This is my IMEHO / even humbler opinion /