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I always amazes me how heated people are becoming when discussing other people's money and how they spend it. Every post on tipping on very forum seems always most popular and generates most od what you call mildly 'strong opinions and words" Just an observation

you have a good heart !

I second that, we tip because we want to. It makes us and other side happy. If we don't want , we do not tip or tip very little but unfortunately we need to live with consequences if tip was expected. Sometimes one wonders where complains about slow or unsmiling service are coming from. Even if Thais don't tip we farangs likely are expected to tip I guess and as long as it is not requested we should. For most of us is still token amount and don't have idea why people are spoiling their vacations and stealing their fun from themselves due penny pinching or haggling over few cents worth. I'm not picking up at anybody because I was the same at one, thanks God, short time of my life in my travels and in recollection still feel uneasy over that.

On Agoda sometimes it depends of hotel and price When booking Tarntawan for my incoming trip Agoda had a choice of paying up front but rate was lower or paying later at the hotel with higher rate. Saved aprox 20 / like 1 off fee at Dreamboys those days / by taking up front option. And as a plus you can pay by Paypal so no need to reveal C/C number . For Malaysia it was prepay only , for BBB Inn and Le Café Royale no prepayment was required. I personally don't mean up front payment as it reduces amount of cash I need to carry. Hope one day we will be able to prepay for off fee at Twilight bars or for services of Saranom boys.

http://web.cruisingforsex.com/bb/thailand/340145-bangkok-go-go-boy-bar-update-2.html#post688058

Just today I saw post on CFS forum that this new bar named ZEUS opened in Soi Twilight-any visitors / comments so far . Hopefully one of you local guys will volunteer to inspect premises and reports. Don't feel rushed though. I sense Soi Twilight does not have many fans on our forum here

Thank you for excellent and detailed report , enjoyable to read. Congratulation on your pick, very nice hunk he is. Hope to contribute to this thread in 3 months

Last time when I was requested to wait I found it quite un-romantic but just got an idea that if we need to wait we can always utilize time for some hand holding session with our newly found friend.. Definitely will return thanks to you encouraging post and short video. It looks that extra 500 makes it worth to use VIP room as regular ones used to be quite small.

What is the best time to go there / day of week and time of day / for the best selection of boys and to avoid any wait time? Few years ago I was, or rather boy and me were made waiting for room quite a while so never visited since but next visit is coming due as per my rotation. Is this frequent occurrence or I just had a bad luck? I know you have a lot experience with the place and I subscribe to the common wisdom that they have best looking guys of all massage places.

Eristic and erastic probably means erotic but with soft and small dick

Criticizing somebody's grammar is very un-gentlemanly IMHO. For some of us English may not be even second language / for me for example /, not to mention first. Sure sometimes sentences in the posts are not making much sense but it's the same with speeches of so many prominent politicians, celebrities etc. so we should just to let it go.

You are 125% right with your complain but how much of your 30000 you paid goes actually to the pocket of guy on reception you are dealing with on departure? Pont I'm making is that they are doing their job and my not have any leeway in pricing / charges.

Neither laugh or cry ,just pay. Quite possibly room attendant making 20 baht per hour or less would be charged by management for shortage in case of broken bottle or missing chocolate bar from the fridge. Being nice guy you don't want do this to people who smiled at you nicely every morning, afternoon and evening / and possibly even asked you if you want massage by them in your room /

I don't agree with you Nirish, on more than one occasion, taxi drivers of all people ! in Bangkok either told me to forget about last 5 baht or simply gave me higher change i.e. 20 baht from 100 baht bill on 85 baht fare. /last time in May on Grand Place-Vinamek trip /

for example you don't like coins in your pocket- 18 baht is at least 5 coins a so all this is neat trick by the greedy owner

Forgot to ask: you are picking up masseur from line-up or is assigned for you from rotation?

Thank you for the info, ' pamper place for a good massage ' is what I'm looking for mid-day, special services can wait till evening in the Boyztown. Will definitely visit Magnolia when will be there in Nov.

Exactly, in both US and Canada prices shown are almost always prices before tax so one never pays what is on the price tag but 3-15 % more unfortunately. Logic is that buyer can see how much tax he pays but this is crap-simply prices are looking lower. Petrol in one exception I can think of where you pay what you see. Sad to hear that this BS is creeping in Thailand.

How far Magnolia is from Boyztown hotels? Is walking suitable? I know about free shuttle but like to walk everywhere if possible, it's how I soak myself in the atmosphere and places/ and loose some calories too /.

As it happened to me at least 4 times over the years it's quite possible others had this dilemma to solve as well. You picked up boy and when both of you arrive in your room and getting ready you noticed that owing to dim lights at bar, too rosy glasses , one glass of beer to much or just fact that boy was half dressed on stage you overlooked something or did not have a chance to see it. Boy is not dud, is able, willing and getting hard , clean and smelling nicely but you know that encounter is spoiled already. Oddly shaped or deformed by botched silicone injection dick, ugly scar or warts hidden under briefs, hidden tattoo you hate, too much body hair or clean shaved pubes or whatever your turn-off is. Whatever it is, you hate it , your lust is melting, dick is shrinking and now what you do? -send boy away with or without explanation ? with full tip you'd pay or reduced one? or - pretend you don't see it , grab Cialis to go ahead gnashing tees in meantime and may be reduce his tip on departure, again with or without explanation or -keep boy but reduce / change your planned activities to whatever you can stand / or rather you can't stand/ converting your night of passion to some light body contact in completely darkened room or - it never happened so you are telling me I'm too hasty picking up companions or simply had bad luck / 2 times ugly silicone deformed dicks, 2 times shaved pubes / neglecting "check the wares" part before off. Red recently some old post about the same kind of problem and contributor proudly announced that sent boy away with token tip what I considered cruel treatment so looking for other opinions. I usually go long time .In all my cases being soft hearted I converted planned hot nights to quiet sleep-overs. Should I consider myself pervert for sleeping whole night next to naked guy without toughing his equipment even once ?

After reading about knives and machete in Christian's post I abandoned any desire to inspect Saronom Park at night , I'd rather pay extortionate off fees and drinks at Soi Twilight. Still tempted to see area during day, one never knows what may happen. Used street trade from Rama IV and Suriwong few times in the past but only for body contact and mutual wank only and took them to short time rooms at Suriwongse, somehow didn't feel like inviting them to my hotel room. My preference are massage boys , then go-go. MB only if I need some adrenaline boost.

owing to illness I was stuck at home for a few days and entertained myself by reading old posts on various forums. .It 's amazing that not much changed,7-8 years ago contributors were complaining about the same things we are nowadays- boring shows , expensive drinks and offs, puschy mamasans and loud music in Soi Twilight bars, handsome but lazy in bed boys from Jupiter, empty bars in Soi 6 wondering how they survive and longing for all good days few years ago. But interesting reads anyway

Not just you, rest assured. Or slightly lowered briefs with just a tiny bit of bushes visible - beats all of those big ****k shows in my book anytime

There are lots of people in the West who are driving cars, living in homes and hiring prostitutes they can't afford so I wouldn't blame Thai logic entirely,

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