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Possibly because tipping boy 1000 for having a coffee is act of charity and is not much harm in drinking coffee with stranger. Having sex with the same stranger bears possibility of harm / STC , unwanted pregnacy in case of girls / which requires an assessment by mature person , hence age restriction by law , common sense, cultural norms and moral obligations. I don't think SpermAholic is alone in his oppinion

pretty common affliction, most famous directionally challenged person in history is Columbus, set-off for India, forgot his GPS and landed in Bahamas instead

I'd gladly pay 1000 baht just to steal few kisses from him, lucky you

If we are so smart and others are so stupid why we are asking for directions, wouldn't be easier to find things for ourselves? On more serious note inability to read map comes from lack of education on the subject as beermaker noted and is quite common everywhere, test your aunt like Alexx did and you will discover. But thank you for creating thread as it brought very interesting responses

hopefully firecat or travellerdave will respond as they are in PATTAYA right now I believe

exactly, exactly, chances somebody fall for our beauty aren't that big unless supported by the bulge of wallet

Morality and law aside, do people realize how child molesters are treated by prison population :? It's like standing whole sentence with firing squad in the back.

so you are saying that having a coffee and having a sex are the same or similar things? forget about age, if we re-phrase this question : so "old men 'having a coffee with his sister / mother is OK but sex is not ? how we answer? do we really need to seek guidance on such a question, in Thailand or elsewhere. I'm not sure I understood quoted statement correctly

That's right and some have guts to ask if Thais are smart people, right?

Christian, missing but not forgotten. Thank you for bringing it up. In May I spied very handsome masseur at Lomchoey and In November tried to go there but cute Kao from Magic Hands , few steps before Lomchoey stole the show, could not resist and never regretted. For those not familiar with BKK soi Ngham Duplee is where famous Malaysia Hotel is.

If you arrive early during day you can have a massage, I'd pick up Bangkok Masage or Bonny also in soi Twilight - boys are waiting for clients outside so you can see the offer before deciding . Easier than wade in to Hero, Senso or FanClub where you may feel intimidated inside will all those beauties smiling at you and counting that they will be chosen ones After that stay in soi where you have 8 go-go bars, 4 beer bars ,3 massage places and 2 restaurants to choose. Pick up one of go-go bars , go to see the show, arrive 1/2 hour earlier so you can pick up boy from the line , invite him to sit with you during show , buy him a drink , be prepared to tip him 100-200 baht for his time. If you get horny off him to check your stamp collection in your hotel or short time room / Suriwong holtel or BBB Inn /. After that you will be seasoned pro and ready to make your own choices. This is advice I got before my first trip years ago , just venues were partially different . It served me well

what do you mean 'finally ' , do you think coup will resolve anything other than possibly increasing demands for coffins for a few days and calming few hot heads for while ?

nice to see you back in regular , not depressed form ! As long as I'm concern small dick is OK as long as is attached to nice face and body

as long as economically lower classes are provided with opportunity of improvement and half-decent life gaps in income are tolerated and capitalistic system understood it very well as long as was threatened by challenge from communism. When communism collapsed under it's own weight greed seems to be prevailing, looks us economically upper classes forgot what is in their best interest -social peace to make even more money. Younger generation in the West looks as first to expect to have lower standard of life than their parents working part-time contracts at age when their parents were mostly settled with permanent positions and careers. Add to this challenge from new technologies and it's possible we will see more Thailand type upheavals closer to home in near future , God forbid

greedy and scheming supposed- to- be- lovers are not endemic to Thailand, they are everywhere. Thai boys just happen to be easier available as country has reputation as gay Mecca and draws us from all over. Mixture of lust and guilt makes us more susceptible to open wallets so some are taking advantage of situation and creating skillfully holes shayatfirst and others falling in and doing it willingly and with pleasure before is too late. Two happy endings here - shayatfirst finally came to his senses or so it looks like and traveller123 story confirms that decency can be found everywhere and Thai boys are as decent as as any others, thanks God they have less body hair and softer skin though !

Finally !, and make sure you really did, forget about everything and just move on

Great advice, I would add Om Yim, BBB INN, Take-a-Nap, all three budget friendly and Malaysia- bit further away but great value for money

Strictly adhere to Alexx advice above, chalk off your loss as there's no way of recovering anything, sounds harsh but this is what it is. Cut off all contacts, do not count his sms , phone calls, e-mails etc, just erase everything without even looking into it, hang off the phone, change number if you need to. Sooner you forget about him and your loss better for you, your soul and your pocket. Avoid any contact as you may be tricked again- in this relationship you know who was smart and who was not, sorry for being blunt but you asked questions so answers are flowing. As consolation think that you helped poor Thai family to lift them out of poverty so you earned merits and hope your karma will improve. Sounds cynical and sarcastic but I actually believe in what i said. As for places to go since you don't want o go to Pattaya or CM, Phuket is too expensive and in neighboring countries gay life is not developed as in LOS, stay in BKK, rent an apartment for a month for 15000 and you will never be bored, guaranteed.

congratulations firecat, he is adorable, I'd fall for this smile even if he is not exactly my body type, reminds me those cute boy types populating massage places along Silom Bkkmfj, can't wait for your Pattaya report, I was not that impressed in November but now from distance of time I have second thoughts and suspect I was too harsh on the place, firmly decided to return next time and likely for longer than just 2 days I spent there last time

don't worry and just go, have you eyes open for developments though

judging by your picture above rest assured you don't although make sure you wear something anyways , no nudity allowed

I like your statement very much, thank you. It should be added that moral age of consent can't be lower than legal age. Somebody on this board once wisely said that is not engaging with boy he would have second thoughts about being seen on busy street with in broad daylight, another wise man claimed that is not going with boy he feels he needs to check his birthday on ID. And this is not only for fear of breaking law but should come out of common decency as SpermAholic suggested.

few years ago when booking in BBB Inn youngish farang in front of me was negotiating extending his stay for that day since his flight was leaving late at night or early in the morning next day. Later on he sat beside me at one of those upstairs bars / Hotmale or X-size, not Dreamboys /, we even exchanged few words ,during show he invited boy to sit with him and was getting pretty intimate with him at times, after show he did not tip boy promising to off him next evening instead fully knowing he will be leaving in few hours. But there's happy ending to that story, going downstairs he misstep, felled down, did not hurt himself but broke his glasses , obviously boy's Guardian Angel was pissed off with that mischievous farang. To this day I feel uneasy about this as I think I should somehow intervene either by shaming him in front of boy or at least slip boy 100 baht

for stay I'd recommend Silom area over Sukhumvit, both connected well to BTS, more gay venues in Silom with Soi Twilight being crown jewel with 8 go-go bars on 100 m stretch. Sukhumvit area is better for shopping and dining. Four places you mentioned are three shopping malls and one market - Bangkok malls are fabulous and Chatuchak is huge but are you sure you want spend your days shopping ? Don't worry about finding BTS - this is overhead rail impossible to miss, actually pretty ugly sight but immensely useful.

This is our side of story but I guess younger boys would have plenty stories about older men who got bored and dumped them for newer modes too.