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In sex business like in any other most of the job is done by the average people. And top performers like in any other business tend to be demanding knowing their worth and at times pricing themselves out of market - circulating opinions about Jupiter boys seem to belong to this category, which I can personally attest to , granted , based on one encounter only. Used the same to be said about Tawan boys but recently for at least a year all feedback about them is excellent. And on top of this sometimes unattractive face is attached to very attractive body / top in X-Boyz Twilight sex show for example / and average looker is very good and willing bed performer. So looks are important but only when light are on, after we dim them other attributes are coming to play good heart included.

whatever makes you cum

ChristianPFC specified that this is a fantasy

I wouldn't reject place when you don't have a choice as one of my most favorite boys of all times was assigned to me from rotation at Bangkok Massage, saw him 5 times total which is my personal best with one boy. So really we never know what happens but I agree with Christian that best way is to have a choice, not fool proof though . My worst encounter ever by far was with boy I was salivating over 2 days before I managed to hire him.

Don't worry , this is not cooking class forum, we are talking sex all the time. Most of the above can be arranged either directly in bar / few of them have short time room on premises though/, best way would be to befriend bar boy who will lead you to further encounters and finds other boy for few-some or girl who will be happy being fucked by him and watched by you at the same time. Those are sex professionals after all and know their job and what's involved. Lots of home work and trials may be involved as not everybody will go for it , be specific when asking yet very discreet. My opinion is Thai boys are not big fan of cum, they cum for you or with you easily and almost always but run to the shower immediately after. Kissing is easy part and you may be surprised how hot kisses by straight boys can be , never hurts to ask though but I'm big kisser and rarely get rejected. Some of those things may cost you extra but not necessarily. A for filming you with boys it may be tough but not impossible to find naive one who will actually trust you that is for your viewing only as kokopelli rightly pointed out above / not doubting your sincerity but pointing that boy may/ . so yes , those possibilities are realistic , bring money though

Don't be too sentimental about our sisters toughing your leg- this is where your pocket is located , doesn't matter who you are with. Some of them are very skillful, not long ago we had thread here about stealing ladyboys. No need to be paranoid though , but if drunk I'd use 2nd road instead. You are right need to try new places and boys but always is good to have some trusted ones to return to, I call them my consolators and return to them after crappy encounters

Hope you report something about your findings, enjoy your trip

There's something true in Arena needing new coat of paint but still is usually my first place to visit when in Thailand . I like the boys and for sentimental reason - my first gay place in BKK was His in the same plaza

While my first choice is Arena and massage places in soi Twilight I would not venture to say that Hero is highly overrated considering that place is always busy even if doesn't have a website and is almost not advertising. So they must be doing something right and selection of boys is vast if one likes muscly , manly types Of course we are entitled to have our favorite and least liked places but is good idea not to allow bad encounter to be basis for opinion about the place. Worst ever encounter I had was with boy from Dreamboys and still consider that bar as the best in whole soi by quite a distance. To avoid tipping problem you mentioned I always keep different amounts in my pockets so if I have 1500 prepared but think this is excessive simply dig out to other pocked where have 1000. If boy exceeded expectation there's another pocket stuffed with 2000. Always use shirt with 2 pockets and pants with 4. This system allows to minimize risk of theft in crowded places and helps me to keep track on spending. Agree with Banana suggestion, never saw boys outside though. I like the place and on few occasion got detoured on way to Hero, never regretted. First massage place on the right side of Soi Twilight , just past X-Boys is Bangkok Massage, then few steps later on the right is Bonny, both have boys waiting outside and it's why I like them, selection can be made without actually going inside and steering at anxious boys like at in most places. Boys Bangkok in bar under the Dreamboys , both sharing owner , mamasans and boys. Massage place on the left further down would be X-Size massage, I must be looking destitute as after good massage with happy ending for both boy wanted 1000 . I don't good memories from the encounter but fault is entirely mine - picked up skinny twink , not my type and felt a bit uneasy.

world is full of injustice, they are talking beach and I can't open window this morning because it freezed

thank you for explanation, makes sense, At the same time you nicely pointed how thick skinned am I, hanging my head low. He, he, he on serious note it's fascinating to find out how our bodies are reacting to various stimulations we don't even suspect - I feel much lighter after massage when boy is using very long stokes and when use their feet to massage not just hands, I guess because foot skin is coarse

Alex already helped you , welcome to the forum. Christian has knack for finding out of way interesting places few people visit so if you like Thailand his posts are very informtive.

actually masage place in on one of upper floors, I was passing by few times daily and it was always more than one cuties with flyers at street level, during massage when scratched boy's knee he suggested than he can be available for more for 1000 baht, no reasonable offer refused as they say I agree with neither of us is retard comment , hope you never had any doubts, he, he

Christian just posted a piece about his experience st ThaiBest in his blog

Don't worry , this was not about you. Your question was exactly one the forum is for, keep asking and we will keep responding, check your PM too

In places when boy showers with me it's all clear from the beginning and I have full access to joy of his body, fun starts when either one of us gets I'd say, impatient. In places like Silom ones where I shower alone and boy starts fully dressed and we both pretend it's massage only I wait for signal from him - usually toughing balls or anal area for nanosecond longer than course of massage requires.First time I let it go, after second one I either give some voice signal like mmmmmm or move my hand to tough his leg or hand. Than usually first level of his clothing gets discarded. And whole situation repeats with nanoseconds being longer and longer at each attempt. At times I can feel something hard and warm somewhere on my back , boy not knowing he just earned his extra bonus / if boy gets hard before I tough him I pay 500 extra , I mentioned it before few times / But always I let him to do first step. By time my back is finished he will be usually undressed or in briefs only which I prefer as i find it quite stimulating to try to explore their contents until he sports hardon. After turn over fun starts / gee , getting hot in here, need to open window ./ Bottom line - when I'm on my stomach I let him to take a lead, when I turn over then I become active - sometimes need to slow him down, I like prolonged body contact even more then he likes to see his tip right away. No abrupt changes,I Iike my time with them and take thing slowly I's why I take longer courses, even if we are finished before purchased time elapsed we still cuddle, hug and I listen to their lies how hansum am I and how they like me. In few places / Magnolia, Sawatdee Spa, Scandic on my last trip / boys seemed serious about massage and did not make any sinister moves actively rejecting my wandering hands or skilfully positioning themselves in a way I couldn't tough them. All hope seemed lost but after massage was done they either asked what's next , how I liked their massage or simply moved their nether areas closer to me in a way not leaving any doubt they are for more personal fun. Hope I elaborated enough ChristanPFC, I noticed reading your posts in the past that you are speeding things up finishing boy in 1/2 hr or so, did not want to comment on this as it's none of my business but always thought you are not getting enough bang for your buck. As for pouring oil on body or hands, difference between those two approaches would be level of sophistication behind my comprehension

now we have the same perspective our massage boys have before they start mutilating us

-14 C No, I'm not there unfortunately. It's actually summer in southern hemisphere so they must have around +30 C

May be they think this is way to increase their own self esteem, create illusion of being in control

that's firecat's point, incredible value for money of Bangkok hotel accommodation, once staying in Royal Benja, Sukumvit soi 5 I discovered that room size is minimally smaller than my then condo and this is not even 5 star place

I'd rather see boring posts than none at all, like with any social conversation some boring and repetitive remarks are unavoidable just to keep talk going. Agree that new blood is great asset as it brings new perspective and new threads, as for wackos -ignored long enough they tend to go away or at least turn to be passive readers only. And as always , boring and wacko for some may be novelty and exciting for others. I'm surprised to see in stats that some pretty old posts are still viewed by some daily so obviously there's still value in them

in order to solve this mystery we need some deep pocketed investigative mind who ventures there and find out what they provide for such a charge. Must be some lengthy and luxurious treatment ending with big bang. One thing is sure - it won't be me,

firecat once noticed that is 57 kinds of Campbell soup to cater to all tastes. I'm with Christian when comes to hotel spending frugality but understand other want to treat themselves better than we are. Neither I have problems with others over tipping , over shopping and doing whatever with their money. Thing I don't get, and this in not directed at anybody on this thread and even on this forum, but read this on other places quite often is that at one breath some posters are boosting about staying at , say Dusit Thani and at next breath are pontificating against 30 baht rise in drinks price at soi Twilight whatever bar

Better do market research in advance - not sure travelling through half of the world to get intellectual stimulation in Pattaya would attract many takers. But idea of minimal fee language school is great as it's always nicer to chat a bit before those carnal thingies

Your findings in Silom places are confirming mine . I usually go with long oil courses 1.5 - 2 hrs and they request 1000-1500 ,at times they ask how much I'll give them, sometimes they come with an offer ' this for that much'. I like semi conspiracy atmosphere in those places, adds to the fun. My preference is boy slowly undressing while testing if I'm interested in extras, Best part is one can see who is available as boys are fronting their stores, even if some boys are not my type their smiles always are.