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and this is smart move you are planning ryoyo, make sure you pick up boy who is making eye contact with you to increase chances of satisfying exercise hope for another report

and certainly they appreciate fact you returned to them

Nothing wrong with a bit of aching, in certain age if one wakes up in the morning and doesn't feel any pain chances are he may be dead,It's why I'm always grateful. for my morning dose of discomfort

Don't get discouraged with your a bit disappointing experience, may be lack of chemistry? As you noticed there is always lots of guys to choose from at HERO. If I'm in the room with a boy I always ask him to shower together and almost never was refused anywhere and certainly never at Hero but some need a little encouragement to do that, may be cultural thing? May be boy thought you don't want to shower together. As for recommendation for any boy we need to remember that for many reason excellent boy for one may be plain vanilla ort even disappointing for somebody else-many factors are involved- chemistry , our and boy's mood, preferences, body shape and hair etc so it's always better to go with your guts rather than just follow recommendation of others Thank you for excellent report and we hope for more of those from you wishing you better luck next time

Thank you for resurrecting this thread as I read again bkkmfj's exploits with pleasure , Tom , hope you will keep your promise since we didn't have any trip reports here for a while

If you love big cities certainly you will not be disappointed with Bangkok one of great cities of the world IMHO. As for Pattaya being beach town this is also truth but test quality of beach an a water by yourself before you will fall in love with the place. Welcome to the forum and good luck with your " help wanted " hunting.

I placed Thai Best on my list to visit for next trip, thanks for recommendation

how it went?

at times even this will not be fool proof, I had boy who knew me from past and whose co-worker I offed few times and still wanted 5000 for long time , I did not took his bait paid him 3000 which is generous i believe but I liked him and it was long long off / 11 hrs /

isn't it you who said : " Never believe sex=money ....No way ... :0 " in another post, not being sarcastic but just noted your change of heart when comes to paid fun

OP=original poster or original post

which one? For me almost always first stop is Arena, only last November I deviated from this habit due to late arrival, too late for Arena not not late enough for Bangkok Massage

paying for sex is not a matter of believing, it's just pure convenience for both sides as no strings are attached. Often works cheaper that free sex . The same goes with free meals

Never hurts to ask how much he wants and usually standard answer is famous ' up to you' but 1200 may be on lower side so I'd follow firecat's guideline. 2000 for sort time would be generous but not unheard of. Don't worry about inflation for future patrons, it's free market after all and your money / and hopefully your pleasure /.. Yes I wish you luck at Hero

again I recommend xiluzer, bkkmfj and ( shamelessly ) mine reports from end of last year, all places mentioned offer both massage and extras , cream massage is the same like oil if you don't like splashing oil all over. I like part when boy splashes oil and uses his own body to distribute it evenly over mine, usually something hard disturbs otherwise nice feeling massage boys may be available for offs so if you like one just ask if they will go with you, in fact most my offs were massage boys. Off fee is usually cost of 1-1 1/2 hr massage, you may be asked to pay boy tip up front / rarely /. I had cases when off fee was waived if it was later during day and I had paid massage in the venue earlier that day. whomever you off make sure not only you like him but there's hint he likes you for better experience

we behave ourselves so no need to moderate I guess. Possibly contributors to Bitch forum founded joys of blood pressure pills and no longer require vents that forum provided

koko is right but credit it to your cool head wit not just a luck

I second everything Z909 says above, in fact I never had massage without option of happy ending being suggested / offered, not that I always used it, sometimes I'm just happy with body to body contact. But at times we have reports from various places that masseur was not interested in any extras, my guess would be no chemistry built up or it's due to patron' s cheapskate fame As for tipping z909 statement is even confirmed on ARENA's website as they say in minimum tip shower, massage and hand job is included and their min tip is 500 for 1 hr. massage. If you ask me, if I put my hands on his less accessible body parts and I always do, I never tip less than 1000 even if minimum tip suggested is less than that. I take abuse for spoiling market gladly.

don't worry , next taxi will appear in 37 seconds, reason to refuse to go to other side is that it's hard to get fare back at deep of night as Thonburi is not famous for night entertainment let us know how did you do in BKK

right, just make sure G-string is covered with jeans

Peninsula hotel is across the river from Saphan Taksin BTS station, convenient during day , not so much for night life but taxis are affordable in BKK , Taxi from airport should be 300-400 on the meter, public transport from airport stops at midnight so you have plenty of time, you should be out of immigration by 9 p.m., if you want economise and have a first shot at eye candy take train to Phaya Thai station, change there for BTS, change BTS at Siam to other line to Saphan Taksin and than short hop across the river. Enjoy while it lasts

you falled silent for a while so I was sure things are running well, thank you for update and good luck !

I always wait for him to make first move , if touches me here and there I follow with z909 advice and brush his whatever is close . Do not get discouraged it he is dressed , sometimes you think all is done and then explicit question or gesture arrives, it seems it depends on place's policy as koko noticed. Rest assured if boy is in for more action he will make sure to let you know somehow. Do not rush things even if you are horny - massage itself is very good so let him mutilate you a bit. Some boys who are more alpha -males may be naked from the start and still will not allow you to tough them until very late in the session. It's just teasing to warm you up.l In more mainstream places he may not allow you to tough him but to me it's pure theory - heard about it but never happened to me . In all places described in this thread you will have happy ending and as you see there's plenty of them to keep you occupied

best guide available: http://bangkokbois-gay-thailand-blog.com/2011/02/26/first-timers-guide-to-bangkok-gay-gogo-bars/

do they offer oil or cream massage? hard to be done without undressing for fear of soiling undergarments with greasy residue. It would be nice if somebody with first hand experience from both NYC and BKK would do some comparison report here