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I'm pretty sure it was in operation when I was first time in BKK in Nov 2001 , but then Albury also in soi 11 was kind of king of massage places, now after they moved and closed last Dec they are only distant memory. I think Michael from his board can confirm how long Hero is in bussines, he is big fan of the place from time immemorial

Christian , welcome back, you were silent for a week or two, I guess we can expect Laos report either here or in your blog? As for Playboy I have no idea what this 1800 racket would be, I visited place in Nov and was charged 450 for 1 hr oil massage in regular cubicle , did not prevent me from having fun at the place, ahem. My guess would be that 1800 room is very luxurious and body to body means full sex with whoever you hired but it's just a guess. Did they specify that tip is not incuded ? At this price I 'd suspect it would be. Too bad you did not ask them when there. Only other place with pretty specific price list I recall is X-Size massage listing ' sex massage " for 1000 Baht / hr. And by the way if somebody is looking for internet cafe in Silom, there's one on 2nd floor right next door to Playboy massage

only rich people have problems with taxis, poor people are taking bus, usually mosquito free

You guys above count your blessings , -14 this morning here, but at least sunny

buckbee , you're silent recently, hope it's because you occupied with your new love. All the best for both of you

There's something with those last days, you have good luck at end of your trips , remember in Oct you found gem on the last day too. I must be cursed as usually my last nights are finished on a little sour note / not last days though so not all lost/ . Don't blame you want keep boy for yourself by keeping him hidden, must be some limit to communal spirit. Have a safe trip home firecat !

firecat, I think you wanted to post this in other thread / aussie seeinkg travel companion during Songkran time /

and not a bad way to capture bigger share of gay travel market

You may have a lot of fun as Songkran this year falls week before Easter

Nice view, you stay in this place during your previous trip, right? No need to be sorry, treat yourself and possibly some nice boy too. 3250=110 $ , in most Western cities you would pay more for room size of an envelope. You are right I consider fancy hotels and restaurants wasteful spending but this is about my spending, I'm last on to criticize what others are splurging at. When I spent too much on something always console myself with thought of how much others are simply puffing away, I quit smoking back in grade 6. We know what your true weakness is , long legged twinks, well illustrated in your interesting posts, whom you are kidding ? Enjoy your last days in my beloved BKK, hope you comment a bit on mob situation

did you notice that actual hole is placed somewhere in the middle of the sea between Africa and Antarctic so nobody would be offended ?

I smell some controversy here but would somebody take mercy and explained to me what the problem is? Certainly suggestion of chill pills was overlooked by some but shoot of straight gin would do a trick I presume.

while I don't see any problems with members using more than one handle I guess Scooby has right to implement his rules as he sees fit. I'd say is posts which are at times offensive , not posters. Firecat is right that this Board is the least moderated for reason that collectively we are behaving ourselves , personal attacks are rare and when they occur are mostly ignored allowing flames to die fast. Opposite opinions are treated as such , not as intended offense, shortly speaking we are acting as boy loving adults , not balding and greying teenagers.

Not defending rude behavior in line at Starbucks but I'd consider inconsiderate if somebody in front of me would be taking time to pick up merchandize while in front of me, may be I'm just impatient ? Not surprised by Chinese night noises. Once in China our long distance bus broke and all passengers were herded to the local school' gym to overnight while waiting for replacement to arrive - did not manage to close eyes whole night because constant loud conversation across the hall, when we tried to ask them to quiet down clearly they did not have an idea what the fuss is all about. So as you said we chalked it off to cultural difference. My personal stereotype - tourists travelling from place to place are much nicer and considerate than those who settle for a week or two in just one place

you forgot to pee on the plane ?

I don't think is any nation which can be called rude when travelling, there are people and people. Generally speaking people in bigger groups tend to behave more loudly and less considerate - this may be source of bashing as Russians tend to arrive in groups. As for your fellow Americans my personal stereotype of them is that they tend to be less visible in non-English speaking countries, I guess shock value of discovery that countries can function with some straight from hell language spoken instead of English. But rude - not known to me at all.

that's very handy, what did you guys drink?

It should work if one encounters bad behaving Russian and calls his behaviour nekul'turnyy, at least worked in Soviet times.

I like his Mona Lisa like smile. Speaking about toothbrush, I don't know about others but I always have supply of new brushes in my room and ask boys to use one in no uncertain terms. Did you manage to hook up with boy you found on the last day of your previous trip and entertained him 3 times in that day if I recall correctly? Sorry for being nosy

Ok, I stand corrected. I had only on encounter with boy with such alignment and they were easily visible and touchable but may be is not always a case. Boy was visibly uncomfortable with my discovery but in order to save his face I told him I'm for massage only and I like kissing boys but don't have sex with them , story he bought with visible relief - I guess he was afraid if pain

First , one must be pretty close to a boy to learn about him having STD. And if you close it's your call how much you want to reveal about people close to you. Venereal warts are easy detectable so no need to warn as one can see and tough possible danger when with boy and made his call as how to proceed. As williewillie noticed , if somebody would be spreading mailcious news on the board I'd immediately suspect sinister motive like revenge and unlikely be deterred from seeing a boy. so while OP question is very interesting and posses real moral dilemma it's pure theory. Follow anonone's advice and assume everybody you are intimate with has STD and protect yourself. And pray that our boys assume and do exactly the same when seeing us.

me too

This is what good people of Georgia and Virginia used to say about slave owners and their slaves but eventually they got over it. I think gay people particularly should be careful with statements like one quoted as there are many places where we are not welcomed. My Pattaya experience is VERY limited but I'm kind of well traveled and never had any problems with Russians so I'm quite amazed and curious to know what they actually doing in PTY to deserve such a scorn. No , I'm not Russian, understand some language and script though, may be that helps to feel easier in their presence. If somebody needs some Russian stereotype from me -here's one : I noticed that when abroad they are reluctant o speak Russian with foreigners, wonder if others noticed the same thing ?

Agree and I'd add that my Pattaya experience is very limited, BKK is generally considered more expensive.

Not Thailand as I hate heat, rest in PM as we don't want derail this thread