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20-30 % would be my guess as well and we collected our statistic samples at the same time of year

Not only in Thailand, I met that one in 2001 in Phnom Penh, Cambodia and remember this very well for simple reason : on top of the above he said that girl who he was with stole his money and my answer was 'if you like boys like me you'd not be in such trouble ', this was first time I publicly and loudly stated my preference, that's why . Of course I did not give him single riel / Cambodian money/, not to mention dollar .

Prince along with Hero,Senso , VClub and Uniman is best place for hunks although you will see them in most places. As for sex you need to discuss that with mamasan while there or boy itself, certainly nobody will be surprised if you ask so don't be shy. Don't assume hunks are top only although statistically probably most of them are but mixture of proper tip, your personality and size of your equipment may lead to better accommodation of your desires whatever they are.

you are not farang expat just farang visitor and your concerns are shared by multitudes here

http://www.gaythailand.com/forums/topic/9774-off-to-thailand-again-december-2014-trip/page-6 one correction to the narrative - Prince is in Suan Plu soi 6 , NOT soi 4 also watch http://www.gaythailand.com/forums/topic/9796-the-journey-begins/ thread by TMax as he just announced today that Prince is in his near plans

April is month of Songkran which may derail your plans a bit due to all this water splashing so take this into consideration in your timing.

I don't think majority of farang expats are that concerned about access to cheap sex workers but otherwise I think your observation about colonial mentality may me spot on.

Cultural difference

From Silom: walk Convent Rd to Sathorn, find overpass and cross Sathorn, Suan Plu is fairly busy street almost opposite Convent on other side of Sathorn , take left hand side and walk along Suan Plu, third soi on your left is soi 6 where IResidence hotel and Prince is located, Prince will be half way through the soi on your right in kind of courtyard, is fairly big structure. there are at least 2 signs on your way so keep your eyes open. It's not hidden at all and IMHO easy to find. You will not regret although prices are higher level than else other than Senso but so are facilities and line of boys, only Hero can be compared

Cultural difference and access to approachable and reliable banking system may be credited for the fact. I'd not be so radical in crossing friends off. When my parents were throwing a function and were short of chairs they borrow them from neighbors, who did the same in their hour of need. Me, being from different generation and living in different society, in the same situation borrow them from my condo's party room, partly because I can.

class solidarity?

I can volunteer to be one...

that's advantage of dealing with Thai boys and Thais in general, they are extremely polite as long as we don't rile them off, worse you may hear is some excused 'no'

are we any better? Just this week talked to friend who sold her mortgage free big house and was lucky to get much better price than listed. Downsized to small apartment so obviously has excess money and ever since according to her is constantly harassed by family and friends to lend them some money for this or that. And we are talking quite well off people in well off country so why Pattaya Thais should be different? I fully agree with last sentence above ' based solely on who has a money' or perceived as such.

First , you worry too much, boys heard and saw it all and much more so worst what may happened they may tell you no and it will be polite. They may not take a dildo but would not object to playing with you with, at least not tops I imagine. I understand your lack of courage for fear of rejection, my advice will be, found boy you like , have a massage with him, if you like an experience tell him you will return tomorrow or even later that day. On second time you will be braver and boy knowing you better more accommodating too , particularly if you tipped him fair on the first encounter /. fair , not excessively since he will expect even bigger tip with some kink /. With underwear sniff /trade your biggest problem is their extremely cleanliness and I can't recall their odorous undies. You can try boys from Bonny or Bangkok Massage at end of day as they are sitting outside in the heat so may get some saturation where you want. Or off boy long time , turn A/c down a bit, present him with new undies and make him sleep in them clinging tightly to you.Try to get him off but don't go all the way, repeat at 3a.m and 6 . In the morning you may get some flavor and boy can keep his original clean garments and a tip.

may be he just wasn't in the mood? Anyways nothing wrong with poking and withdrawing, better then those guys who are sitting without ordering a drink and just taking space and air.

Hope you will find it, as reported previously I tried last month but without any success in sois 93 to 97/1. Let us know if you will find it, you can even call me blind or dumb. Nothing wrong with bars not being your thing, I for one feel the same about saunas and whole soi 4. We all have our likes and dislikes and this is what keeps all sort of diverse businesses alive.

I'm 100% not beach person but I think tourists who consider beach very important are not heading for Pattaya, it's just an addition to other charms of the place IMNSHO.

I like this expression, we learn something new every day

This doesn't mean anything. In December on few different occasions I bar-hopped both in PTY and BKK with 4 members of this board / z909, firecat, Christian nad xiluzer / and lesson learned is what is 'nothing of interest ' for one of us may be gem for another. Neither they were with mine nor I was impressed with their choices and this is very good sign - it means every boy have a chance. Only exception was xiluzer who is fond of exactly the same types I like. so bottom line is - go and check for yourself. As for Love Thailand comment about Sunee I must say that even if that plaza is not my piece of cake at all in all 5 go-gos I visited last month I did not see drastically too young looking specimens. ID still should be checked for peace of mind but Sunee likely cleaned their act or may be I'm being naive. But again I'm not familiar with younger sector of working boys and leave all under 25 y.o, 170 cm and 60 kg to others

Jacuzzi treatment includes attendant boy. Nothing will stop you from inserting boy to the tube with you. This would be environmentally friendly action since less water will be used As for flow of events there are 2 scenarios: either you direct what happens or you leave to the boy to steer course of action. Second option is my favorite in all massage places. Mind you I'm not lying there like piece of wood and at times my wandering hands are even gently slapped but generally I leave it to the boy to take an initiative and see where it leads us. This is when I'm on their turf. When I off boy , in my room I like to be in charge but no, I don't slap gently his wandering hands.

OP, did you fell in love since you silent for last few days? How things are going?

in such a case I'd secure boy by paying off fee up front and telling mamasan time I will pick him up. This is what I did at BoyZBoyZBoyz on both occasions last trip. In meantime managed to visit few bars without boy and corresponding drink in tow.

my approach to long time and I almost exclusively off long time is to tell boy that in the morning we will have breakfast together. This does the trick of letting him know what I mean by the long time and gives them a chance of presenting their own time limits if any. Usually does the trick although I had an exception in December by the XSize boy who left after 1 hour or so. In the morning it's boy's choice if he goes for breakfast with me or not, usually they do, if they don't it's their loss. I must say that in 10 trips massage boys offed never cut me on time but go-gos from time to time did - on two occasion last trip reported above.

I like your approach and I'm using the same, no games. If I invite boy to sit with me I always tell him up front that either we only watch the show together and after that he is free because I'm not offing anybody or we watch the show and than he goes with me. No drama , no disappointments. It helps that usually I know very fast if I'm interested in anybody in the line or not. I taker mercy on boys and let them know my intentions fast so they can focus on other clients if I'm not interested in.