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Noi I as believe that Christian has said that he does so far intend to return to Europe again at some point in the future then I think think sex tourist might be the correct definition still after all - he's just a VERY "long time" sex tourist and not a short time one :-)

Quite simply a thank you to whoever edited out the spoilers ( whether that by the authors of the post of a Mod) as I'm as guilty as the next man of chatting away about a film whilst forgetting others may not have had the time to sit down and watch it yet - which is the case for me for this film - so thank you, spoiler edit appreciated !

Praelu - no harm to you but i think the boy has more to worry about going with you than the other way round perhaps !! So, you're basically asking would someone mind going in to spy on my ( Pattaya bar working BF) to see if he's still in the same bar I'm paying him not to be in, oh and if you would also mind maybe offing him too and take a few pics when you're in bed with him too so that I can really hammer it home about "SEE I knew you were still working" ( in the same Pattaya bar where I found you). As I said in my message above if you even feel that you need to double check his "story" then run a mile and keep running as unless you go in open minded and aware of what's what there's probably only heart break ahead for you. Even if one of us was kind (stupid) enough to do what you ask and you went ahead and "fell in love" with your new now non working BF just how long do you think it would be before the next time you were sitting in a bar in god knows where with him and some other farang happened to pass by and raise an eyebrow at him to say hi ( i.e. fancy a fuck when you're not about) and EVEN if your "BF" totally ignored him about that your brain would be going into instant overdrive and your ( probably quite justified) paranoia would kick in once more with you ending up coming back here asking for someone to buy him a drink when you go to the toilet or offer him 1000 baht for his number etc etc to "see what he does" etc etc - do you REALLY want to live like that for the rest of your realisitically probably short relationship with him. My advice ( which I fully accept you didn't ask for but you're posting on a public message board so I'm giving it anyway :-) is either accept him at face value and see where things go, being ready but not surprised if the worst ( if it IS even the worst depending on your outlook about such trivial things as sex etc) occur or bin him now and avoid the heart ache OR just DECIDE NOW to just live and be happy when you're with him and let things take their natural course and take every day as it comes as tomorrow just might be your last so theres really no point worrying about such trivial things ! ( here's hoping its not though of course) as if you think for one minute you can check up and outwit your Thai Pattaya bar working BF if he's committed to fooling you then I hate to be the one to break it to you but you're probably very sadly mistaken there :-( Either way best of luck with him and I hope it ends up how you want it to -but alas I'm not so sure it will :-(

The fact that you already even feel the need or want to check would in my book be enough of an answer to myself as to whether to proceed or not with inviting him to my home town as if you don't trust him now you probably never will and will just drive yourself ( and him) crazy - plus let's be honest if you know him from one of the bars in Pattaya whilst it's not impossible the term leopards and never changing their spots comes to mind, either way best of luck with that.

And when looking at the robbers picture neither a man of taste or fussiness as to the looks of his companion for the night it seems either ! :-)

Don't Worry New Allaan, I totally agree with you and am careful to have that conversation in a nice joking way for exactly the reasons you state and Nop and I have laughed at the "why you not tell me, I did, ok it's me who's a little ting tong then obviously" type conversation. I also agree with you re their not rushing you out of the rooms and like yourself I have benefited greatly from VERy late check out - like 10pm etc ( after settling up in the afternoon of course) and that is one of things I value when staying there if on an early morning flight back home, mind you I never have to worry about clearing my room as the staff are always there ( at my request) to help themselves to the pluck from my fridge as I never yet have mastered buying "just enough" and leave enough snack food, chocolate, beer, spirits and god knows what else enough to feed a small army and TOILET rolls, don't start me about toilet rolls, it's the bane on my life there, I buy several large packs ( just in case as I can't be bothered shopping for them often, using hardly any, leave a mountain of them ( which is fine) until I come back and there's ONE miserable toilet roll lol - I reckon by now I must have run up enough toilet roll credit that they could at least leave me a few spare rolls back at LEAST ! :-)

Re I reaffirm what both New alan and Anonone have said above, it still amazes me that Nop etc in Mosaik do this. Even this very trip coming I have to go through the same "fully booked" rigmarole FOUR times with them, going all the way from "sorry, room not available" to "sorry no room available for dates you want" to "sorry hotel fully booked we very busy"etc, whereupon I was starting to take it personally lol - when all the while he meant "sorry the specific room you asked for isn't free on just ONE of the days ( out of two weeks) that you'd suggested but i can move either you or him elsewhere for that one day if you're happy with that - or just move you to exactly the same style of room but just next door to the one you wanted for the full dates you need" - but NONE of this info was forthcoming from Nop or Nong and only knowing what i know about their thought process had over several emails to tease this information out of him and when we finally worked it all out and I said "Nop just like last time why didn't you just tell me this all at the start and save us both all this emailing drama" to which he simply replied " I did, I say room not available" Grrrrr This has now happened on about 4 of my last trips and I've ALWAYS ended up getting the exact room I needed for the dates I wanted ( after several emails back and forth though) so I would definitely suggest you keep trying or better still just give them a call and save all the to and fro typing craziness ! :-( Here's their number for handiness for you......+66 38 723 667 - although I seem to recall when you ring their voice mail system says "for english press one" DONT !! as when you do it sends you to straight to voicemail, when i advised them of this I was told "yes because when manager not here no one speak english" ( even though I was ringing during their working day) so, just let it go on through their phone process without pressing anything and Nop ( who speaks perfectly good english should answer ! ( TIT, ya got love them...... or NOT lol ! ) Out of interest do let us know how you got on and if you got sorted out by them in the end perhaps so others know to follow suit in the future perhaps !?

Hopefully not as it would be an awful waste of many years of my making it so and enjoying doing it as I go :-)

But I'm guessing you may well have had a few racists IN you ! :-)

@ pong - you ARE joking in your post above I presume about racism not existing in Asia at all, that statement is so ridiculous im not even going to waste time going over it to explain how wrong you aa as I suspect you already fully know that. And as for your "how can one expect those poor motto cycles drivers" to know the difference - as im assuming you're imolyung "cause they all look the same don't they" - which again im not even going to waste time pointing out his vile that is The above intentionally or not is a classic example of a (poor) trolls post and I guess I'm as bad for replying to it but I couldn't let your last comment sit without at least one of us on the board pointing out how wrong it was "for the record" - but again Im guessing you already knew all this anyway and were just looking for a reaction.

^^^ Nope, I think you're right on the money there A447 in that I believe we're all merely "tolerated" until either the money runs out or our behaviour is deemed to be so "un Thai" ( as if that's something magical that one should ever aspire to somehow anyway!) that they can stand us no more and either leave us sitting alone in bars to be ignored or at worst push us off some balcony somewhere. Thankfully both my money and manners have spared me either of those fates to date but I've no illusions that their love of us and our skin etc IS only skin deep !! - but that's ok as shush but don't tell them but I just might feel exactly the same way in return about them actuslly now and also be playing exactly that same "game" in return that they are to just get what "I" want or need out of them re our "lets all smile at each other and say nothing bad about each other to the others face deal" and as long as we both continue to play our respective parts amicably and with good grace so the game will go on.......until of course one or other of us decide otherwise and then it's all over.

I assure you several of my Thai friends were racist to the bone long before Ebola raised it's ugly head, don't be fooled about that - and when pulled on this there answer more or less is "so what it's only a ( insert whatever race they were slagging off at that particular time as they have a long list - and I'm probably on that very same list in my absence no doubt when my baht contribution isn't to be taken into consideration)

You say this like it's news, as you say above racism is unfortunately alive and well in Thailand of that there's no doubt.

On reading your above GB I was just wondering if in the long term and as you get older etc if it might be an idea to always keep the opting out of the prescription thing under consideration based on insurance companies love of the term "pre-existing condition" and how they won't put you on cover once you DO need that cover when you consider what might happen if you did succumb to a longer term, more serious illness ( fingers crossed you don't of course). I'm thinking back here to the likes of the ex owner of SGT and his crippling monthly prescription bills which aside from his actual illness where always the main cause of his ongoing angst as his costs for those would have floored him had it not been for his American ex business partner agreeing to pay for them under a old agreement they had re him being covered for health insurance in Thailand by his ex company, which then had to be cancelled, leading to the need for the agreement for physical cash payments to take place to carry on in lieu of the insurance to cover that for as long as was required, as if that help had not been forthcoming then his that large monthly ongoing prescription tab alone could have proved crippling to almost anyone I believe. Maybe however you're sitting on a several hundred million baht there under your pillow so it's just not an issue for you I don't know, but I just thought I'd mention it as none of us are getting any younger of course and is always something to think about for the future as no doubt at some point the insurance company will stop offering that cover as you get older?

Don't know if you ever managed to meet that first guy or not - but if so and you and he hit it off you were I'm sure in for one hell of a ride - at every level :-)

And lets face it if the guy WAS going to get stung like that I'm guessing it would be for a hell of a sight more than 2500 baht ! Hell he talked about the sex being no good, so there's 1500 before you even start, so this shocking Thai hoodlum was threatening him for all of 1000 baht....hardly ! OP - you're so full of shit your eyes are brown ! As another poster said......get a life.

Did they not have several nubile Young guys wearing skimpy loin clothes standing not 5 feet away constantly fanning them and taking care of their every need - oh I don't know I could maybe put up with that for a day or two - hmm that's just giving me an idea for an interesting multiple off !!!! Lol

[quote name="vinapu" Where you are taking boys from Bamboo, do they have rooms or there's short term hotel nearby I normally just nip back to my room in Mosaik as I much prefer it usually so I'm not 100% sure. I belueve Bamboo does have a ST room upstairs although Ive never used it and also there's the gay B&B just behind it that I think is suitable too ( rainbow rooms I think ?) but others might know better re that aa again I've never used it. I take a deluxe room / suite in Mosaik so prefer to get back to my room and relax with the guy properly to unitise the large ( clean) bed there plus I find the fun is always better when in your territory so to speak, with your own comdoms, lube in bottłes and not those damned awkward to open scathets and maybe some toys :-) also even though it's short term and I make that clear of course the guys always seem to think that by being extra nice to you the short time might turn into long time, plus as it's usually around 5-6pm the bar is empty so they're in no hurry to head back either so sometimes we chill out and get food in etc. Then come maybe 8.30pm I then "have to go meet my farang friend for drink now in Sunnee plaza so you can go back to the bar now thanks" ( he he the reverse of "my friend he forget key so I have to go let him in loom" lol - billshit works both ways and they know fine well of course but face is saved all round - the only decision then once they go is as to whether to stay in the room and reply to the usual traunch of Grindr or GR "hello, can I come your room" messages to squeeze in another quick romp until around 11.30pm before heading out for the night or whether to conserve my energy - have to say the first option usually wins based on my usual life's short, Im not getting any younger and tomorrow is promised to no one general philosophy in life ! :-)

I think from reading all the above it appears I must be the only person who quite happily goes to the beach for what it is now - a beach ( albeit a fairly shit beach at that). I tend to go every other afternoon or so on my trip if I'm up early enough ( ie 2pm or so) and or if it's sunny enough and or if I haven't some nice guy back in my room making it worth my while to stay there a little longer, but when I do go Im quite happy to not speak to a soul from I arrive until I leave. I usually have my phone and hence my iTunes with my ( on headphones of course ) along with perhaps a book or a few (gay) magazines ( the cafe opposite Mosaik has a small library Or books I always have a browse through and I take one on those to the beach simetimes to at the cafe owners insistence. I actually quite like the fact that there's never a "sorry we're full" anymore so you always get your chair, I arrive and my chair is dusted down and made ready for me, complete with a bottle of green or red Fanta ( it's a running joke that which ever the waiter leaves it for me I'll say I wanted the otter colour today - always - but take what he gives me of course :-). I'm then quite happy to lie and mind my own business, totally igniting the vendors I don't want to see and buying some ice scream ( and DVDS :-) etc from that I do - although I HATE the "you want young boy question when he asks what you want to browse and gets a firm no with a distasteful look only for him to follow it up with a even more offensive comment re "I have on memory stick so you no problem bringing home" as if THAT was the problem in the first place !!!! But aside from that I sun bathe a bit ( as much as my pale white Irish skin allows before I go my usual irish lobster red) then depending on the water state so for a drip ( some days barely ok other days definitely NOT), maybe have some food, then a message and maybe a pedicure and even a wee dose, all recharging my batteries ready for the night ahead and usually on my way back I stop off at bamboo bar for a beer and end up getting talked into offing one of the waiters there for a 6pm short time before the night begins in earnest elsewhere ( Boom the small guy waiter there one hell of a cock on him lol) so, whilst the beach may not be what it was 10 years ago it's still what it is today and Pattata would be one hell of a site less interesting during the day for a lot of us without it I fear.

Why of COURSE they were !! And whilst some of it could have been quite innocent such as "ok let's do his legs now, oh this is a nice room isn't it" of course some of it may well have been "ok let's hurry up and get this guy off fast so we can get our money and get to the bar) and of course our own paranoia is always going to fear the worst. So, the three options are to a) learn to speak Thai - bad idea perhaps as then you KNOW they're talking about you ! Or b) ignore them and enjoy the massage ( hard to do if feeling paranoid in the first place) or c) allow your mind to interpret their comments however you wish ie "my what a great cock this guy has and wow aren't we lucky he's allowing us to even touch his slim splendid toned muscled youthful athletic body, I'm nearly cumming just being in the same room as him!" - works perfectly for me every time !! Self delusion is a WONDERFUL thing sometimes !! Lol

Likewise to the above as only 1 out of the 3 or 4 of my attempts at this fun was any good and for exactly the same reason so if you're going to do it perhaps better with 2 or 3 guys you know or who are at least all comfortable with each other ( sexually) - although I gotta say the one time it did alkl slot into place ( no pun intended but not that I think of it why not as it works perfectly:-) it was GREAT - horny as hell no holds barred fun and a great massage too - although it was a fine line where the massage stopped and the 3some started I guess - but as I was the centre of attention the whole time it was worth every baht ! :-)

Now THERES a man who knows how to keep his audience on tenterhooks whilst they await his next exciting instalment ! :-) Enjoyed your report GM, do please keep writing.

^^^ See ! And people SAY these boards aren't educational ! Who knew eh !! :-) I was warned against trying Acrotomophilla by a friend but personally I thought it was all quite 'armless ! lol

Is GOD open again, last time I was there ( beginning of August) it had been closed by those who must be obeyed, with all sorts of stories floating around as to why, but it was early days then when the Army were stamping their authority about the place so maybe things have changed and those how needed looked after have been - so can anyone confirm is GOD back open again or not ??