Travellerdave

I have taken boys from Winner in Sunee back to my hotel in the Complex by motor bike taxi “three Up”. A 10 minute blast of night air !

Yes Vessey I think you are right. The remaining gogos are now back to pre-Covid in as far as boy’s dress. They are now back to skimpy shorts or even jocks or g-strings so will feel the cold below say 25c. Better to run the ac to suit the boys, perhaps that way Winner will attract more to work there. The choice was limited when I visited a couple of months ago, but I accept things vary night to night and by the hour. The most attractive lads are sometimes offed before 10.00 pm.

Two more photos from the Winner Facebook site. The blonde boy in the first picture would be my choice for closer examination and a possible off. Never bothered with the ping pong balls - I have found placing tips in their shorts results in more fun.

Quite an achievement to stay in business for over 30 years. Few nightspots have lasted that long. I can’t think of a gay bar/gogo. Krazy Dragon in Sunee lasted a long time but is now only a memory.

The accounts of chuck-wow contests takes my memory back to my first visits to Sunee Plaza around year 2001. In particular the Kaos Gogo was the place for it where the “hat” was passed round for contributions following which naked boys (maybe 10 to 20) commenced wanking enthusiastically sometimes assisted by members of the audience. It seems the only survivor now of that scene is Nice Boys. I was in Pattaya a couple of months ago and visited NB twice looking for a boy LT for an off, ideally a top with slim rock hard equipment as these days I’m largely btm. . I didn’t off on either occasion. The first time there was few customers and little action just maybe a couple of guys playing with boys cocks and I only stayed for one beer. The second time I invited a rather attractive boy down to the bench where I tongue kissed him whilst wanking him for a fair while until a good load of cum spurted on the paper towel provided. I afterwards thought maybe I should have had him cum in my mouth but I’m not brave enough to do that in public - only in the loom. I tipped him twice - total of 400 plus a couple of boy drinks.

Interesting thread ! I’m now nearly fully converted to btm and look for well endowed guys after the first few days of my trips to Pattaya and Bkk during which I can only accommodate more slim cocks. But I dont like to think of myself as a size queen however maybe I am. looking at the previous posts I wound agree that it is accepted wisdom that Isaan guys have what we btm’s like but it is not always true, based on a very large sample over the last 20 years. Viewing pictures of awesome guys in this site’s photos folder I should go looking for Myanmar guys in the Saphan Kwai shops. Another thought I have is that i should head for Rio based on sydneyboy1’s advice. I’m not one for trying to have sex whilst seated in gogo’s but I find a quick check of the boys assets is a good precaution before making the “off” decision, as is trying to explain my later requirements

Marc - sorry that’s a rather clumsy sentence I included in my post. To clarify : 1. I would say the number of sex workers (attractive or not) looking for business in Thai resorts has declined over the years due to better education and more job opportunities in manufacturing or tourism 2. has the attractiveness of Thai Guys declined ?. That’s an interesting question. As to their physical shape I would say probably yes. More consumption of Western food and less physical toil in the rice fields being responsible. As to their outlook on life, probably not. I still find them enjoyable to socialise with and their English language ability has on average improved over the years. Many boys with virtually zero English when commencing their careers in the sex industry make rapid progress and after six months are even able to conduct a conversation. Some ability in English is usually regarded as an asset by their farang customers, as few native English language speakers take the trouble to learn any Thai.

I’ve been visiting Thailand now for more than 20 years as a gay tourist and very much agree that its attractiveness for us has declined over those years. There are no statistics giving the numbers of gays and str but I’m sure the proportion of gays would be now a lot less than previously, which is reflected in the much reduced numbers of bars and gogos and the decline of the Pattaya gay beach. The scandal of under-age sex which surfaced in the years 2000 to 2005 was a major blow to Thai gay tourism and I think it still reverberates. The attractiveness of Thai boys and their availability has reduced considerably due to the availability of other economic options for them. I’ve never been to South America but that might change noting what Boy69 has just said. Before discovering LOS I spent my holidays in Spanish resorts like Playa del Ingles and Benidorm but the experience there was rather different with minimal commercial sex and I was a lot younger and considerably more attractive on the beaches there.

I’ve also seen boys advertising on Grindr and Romeo but have never responded. However over the years of visiting Pattaya I have I very occasionally had two boys in bed with me following “social” situations . For example one memorable time was when I offed a boy from Winner and returned to the Complex with him by motor bike taxi. Before going to my hotel I sat with him in a bar looking at the action having a drink, during which time my boy spotted a friend who had also worked in Winner previously who I invited to join us. They seemed to enjoy each others company and I found both to be attractive so I suggested that the friend joined us for the night, which was enthusiastically agreed to by both boys after I confirmed that both would receive an appropriate tip. That led to some of the best sex and fun I’ve ever had helped by the draining of a small bottle of scotch I had in the room.

Over the years of visiting LOS as a gay sex tourist I’ve occasionally retained boys for periods of up to a week. Trying to remember how much money I paid I recall on one occasion where it was 10k for 5 days/nights. But the cost was increased by presents of clothes, beachwear ( I like them to wear brief speedos) and phone costs. So the total cost would have been rather higher, particularly in the case of one particularly hottie I remember . I understand the point about the boredom factor of being with them 24/7 but that was mitigated by meeting friends who also had “boyfriends” or allowing daytime interaction with their friends. It would seem that currently the balance of supply/demand is in the boy’s favor.

Yep that’s him Billy I don’t know who took those pics, but seem to remember he had them posted on his Romeo account. My report on my meeting 9 years ago is still on the site section dealing with Romeo Grindr etc. pity we don’t see boys like him on the gay beach anymore.

Years ago when I stayed in BT I often spent the afternoons on the Dongtan Beach where in those days money boys were often to be found wanting action. They were not keen to travel to BT for short time , so on several occasions I took them to an ST room in the small Soi near the police box. I can’t remember the details cos it’s years ago. Another boy took me to his room in one of the older buildings in an soi off beach road. I wrote a report on one encounter for the section on this site which used to give information on boys members had enjoyed. It’s still there ! This is a boy I took to the room a couple of times. It’s not my picture but maybe long standing members will remember him

Over the years I’ve been visiting Pattaya I’ve visited Koh Samet quite a few times, mostly in company with another gay friend and our respective boyfriends. The easiest way of making the arrangements is to buy a package deal from a travel agent to include transportation, ferry, National park admission and bungalow accommodation. ive never stayed there more than five days but that’s enough to get away from the madness of Pattaya to enjoy clean air and sea. It’s usually better to avoid the weekends which are busier with people from Bkk.

A few years ago I occasionally bought poppers on the Dongtan Gay beach . That was when I was converting from being top to versatile. Helped me take big Isaan cocks. Not seen the sellers there during my last few trips.

Yes Seed looks hot in those tight low slung jeans. Could be gay for pay.

Ryanqqq Reading your reply to my post about visiting Maspalomas. It makes me think about making another visit next rather than going to Pattaya again. I’ve not been there for 21 years but you say that on the excellent beach, Kiosk 7 is still attracting gays as are numerous hotels and apartments near the yumbo centre. The beach at Kiosk 7 was my favorite daytime rendezvous for meeting others. Sometimes more than meeting, I enjoyed flirting and occasionally going into the dunes for sex, although you had to watch out for the cops. Commercial sex like in Thailand did not happen, as far as I remember ie no gogos / host bars and of course then, there were no apps.

You can be robbed because of your own carelessness. A few years ago I was staying at the Ambience after a short trip to Vietnam from which I had returned with around $200 which I had placed in the room safe. I had returned to my room alone fairly late but then obtained a boy from Grindr to join me LT. During the night I remember him going to the bathroom twice. In the morning I paid him from money in my pants pocket before he left, after which I got back into bed for an hour. Getting up and dressed I was leaving the room to get some breakfast when I noticed the safe door ajar - I had not locked it the previous evening and the dollars were missing. The boy had seen the safe open, removed them and I guess placed them in a toilet bag he had come with. The guy on reception said he had never seen the boy before, who did not appear on Grindr the rest of my stay.

When I first travelled to Pattaya as a gay tourist 21 years ago, I had previously spent holidays on the Spanish island of Gran Canaria specifically at the resort of Maspalomas where nude sunbathing was accepted on one section of the beach which was popular amongst the gay community including myself ( I would say that in those days I definitely had the body for it which is not the case now) During my first visit to Pattaya I discovered the gay Dongtan beach but was disappointed to find that the dress code was beach wear. Making enquirers I found that being naked outdoors was not in the Thai culture, so I never tried it. I did wear a Lycra thong a couple of times on the beach but got quite a few disapproving looks. Even at the Sansuck gay sauna I never saw any nudism round the pool.

I think Forbes circulâtes mainly in North America hence the high ranking of Latin America. if the survey had been conducted in Europe, Spain, Greece and France would have ranked higher. Probably Portugal is top due to them not applying restrictions on length of stay (90 days) should you not have resident status. This rule imposed by the Shengan zone countries has become a big problem for UK expats making their home in France and Spain.

Another partial explanation of the good behavior of English fans in Qatar is that the trip there was rather expensive in terms of the airfare and accommodation. Generally more affluent people who could afford it, don’t cause trouble. Trouble at soccer events involving them has occurred in European Cities, which are cheap to travel. There was no trouble during the 2018 World Cup held in Russia. I think there they had a fear of being sent to Siberia !. However I don’t disagree that the lack of cheap booze was a major factor.

i had a short affair with an older guy who worked part time on reception in a bkk hotel where I stayed 12 years ago towards the end of my trip. He liked chatting to me, explaining that he needed to improve his English to get a better hotel job. Once when he was off duty I invited him to have a drink with me in the hotel bar, during which we talked about his life in Thailand mentioning that he used to be married but was now gay. He asked me about my life, work, and interests during which I told him I was also gay, which he said he suspected because he had not seen me with lady. A few drinks later he accepted my invitation to go to my room for sex and to sleep with me. He had a good body and we had a great time - not just that night but for the rest of my trip. But what made those days enjoyable more was the breadth of our wide ranging conversations. One day we went on the tourist train to Samut Songcran where he had worked before and could explain to me the Thai fishing industry. A totally better experience than I had had with young money boys. I did give him significant money and a leaving present of course. He did admit that I was not the first farang with whom he had such an experience.

I’ve no problem about walking BT to Sunee and return- must have done it more than 100 times since 2002. But sometimes after offing boys and returning I ran into objections when they demanded using a motor bike taxi, even saying they were tired after dancing in the gogo. I had to go along with that to avoid an hour or so of sulking. Sounds like I won’t have this difficulty during my next trip ie few offable boys available in Sunee

First time I went to koh larn was 2002 with a pal and two boys. Walked from the pier to Duen Beach (Monkey Beach) . 2 miles maybe. There was nobody and nothing there - took some booze and food from,7-11. Had lots of fun swimming out to the reef. Got taxi back for return to Pats cos I had cut my foot on the coral.

Reading these various experiences of fellow members about boys watching porn whilst in bed , I’m taken back to some years ago by something rather different. I was in a king bed with a very hot twink and was woken up in the middle of the night in the pitch darkness by noises (beeps, buzzes and clicks) coming from under the bed sheets, from which there was also a faint glow. I gradually came to and slid over to his side of the bed and whispered “what you do “ to which the reply was “play game”. . I was amused by this and asked him to show me. It was in the early days of smart phones and I did not possess one, only a basic mobile phone with few extras. He demonstrated the game and showed me how to play and for a while I forgot about sex in my efforts to master the skill. However I gradually focussed more on his delicious body and commenced sucking his cock whilst he gradually ceased play and put the phone aside and we commenced “normal service”. In the morning and over room service breakfast we Laughed about the experience and the game which I think was some sort of early version of Candy Crush. It was One of my boy “adventures” which remains in my memory bank and causes me to smile as I reminisce about times gone by.

I rather enjoy kissing boys in gay bars and “boyfriends” on the gay beach and of course in bed. But I wouldn’t do it, particularly French kissing, if the boy resisted in any way. Definitely not in public in non-gay places - you have to be conscious of your surroundings. I was once sat round the pool at the Zing resort where another farang was kissing and cuddling a boy which was rather unsettling for str couples present there.