Travellerdave

Anyone know a authoritive definition of a twink ?

Krazy Dragon - great memories for me also. I used to love it when the guys (note not twinks) used to hop from table top to table top. Never saw one fall off. A small wad of 20 baht notes bought lots of fun. What’s with this fetish with twinks and lensless spectacles ?. Maybe a factory had a faulty production run of frames and is now promoting this as a fashion.

Twinks in abundance in JC suffering from a shortage of daddy wallets !. I must get my next trip organised to help correct this unfortunate situation. Presumably the same oversupply is also found in the BT and Sunee gogos,?

Taking Olddaddy’s definition of meeting guys, I’ve racked my brains for a contribution to this enjoyable thread. i have mentioned already encounters with boys on the gay beach years ago which sometimes lead to playing with their cocks in the waves and once or twice an hour or so in bed with them back at the hotel. I was beach fit in those days and very horny when beach boys were in the vicinity and had no inhibitions about approaching them despite failures. Much more recently, perhaps 5 years ago, I remember trying to pick up a boy from the street. Whilst staying at the Ambiance I had walked down around midday to Tukcom with vague ideas about buying a cheap phone, but first decided on a latte coffee whilst sitting outside from where you can view people passing on the footpath below. Of course my viewing was directed towards passing boys, many of which live in the vicinity. I tried a few times to smile or give a little wave to several attractive ones with zero response, until one shouted something to me but carried on past. It took me a couple of minutes to recall who he was - a boy from Cupidol Gogo whom I had bought a drink a couple of evenings previous, without offing. At that point I gave up and wandered around until going for a massage. That evening I went to Cupidol where the boy was available for me to off. I asked him later in bed, why he had not joined me that morning - his reply was something like “bar not like “. I don’t think this really meets Olddaddy’s definition but it adds to this enjoyable thread.

The last time I went to the “gay” area near the toilet block about 6 months ago it was still a rather pleasant place to spend a couple of hours, but compared with former times the “gayness” was very much diluted. In between the predominately groups of older farang men was a few str couples and even the occasional single lady. I’ve nothing against the latter but I’m bemoaning the decline of what was an asset for the gay community and tourists like me. The only Asian boy was the occasional one sat with presumably his daddy looking bored. In former days a group of boys used to play volley ball by the waters edge displaying their lovely brown bodies wearing brief speedos.

Spot on Vinapu - I would add to your list of annoyances: “ladies and str couples on our gay beach” I really like reading your reports particularly when, im back home. Love the pictures of chicken and cashew nuts which is also my favourite too. The dish does vary a lot in Bkk and Pats particularly with the proportion of expensive cashew nuts compared with that of the chicken and other ingredients. I always feel cheated when there are few nuts. I’ve tried a couple of times making it here in U.K. - getting chicken and cashew nuts is easy but I cannot replicate the spicy taste of the juice. The second time I tipped half of it in the waste. I must look for a good cook book or have a lesson during my next trip.

Got to agree with you kokopelli3. Would not argue with your boyfriend about the fares Sunee-Complex 1 passenger / two passengers . I have never had an argument with a mocy driver - I just pay what they ask and sometimes tell them to keep any coin change. I thin’k the fare I've paid was usually 180 baht for 3 up - sounds very reasonable and it’s of course a tiny fraction of a night in gay Pattaya with a boy in bed to follow. I’ve never got into the habit of taking Bolt taxis - must try them during my next trip.

When I first discovered Pattaya (year 2002 -2003) the Dongtan Gay beach was good for meeting boys underneath the umbrellas. They were easy to spot taking chairs near the end of the rows and walking occasionally to the waters edge. For a small tip you could ask one of the concession boy workers to suggest joining me (or us ) for a drink. That often led to fun in the waves or at a short time room. Doesn’t happen any more.

Alone in bed on the last night ?. That’s been my experience at the end of my trips since Covid. Thoughts of the long 24 hour journey back home and potential problems when I get there, crowd out those of boys and sex. It wasn’t like that years ago when I would occasionally be saying goodbye to a “boyfriend” I had acquired on one of the longer stays or more likely having a good final night with a hottie or maybe two.

I don’t disagree Olddaddy . I’ve never been to the Philippines but have heard that the boys there are into us older daddy’s . A trip there is on my “to do” list. ive played the daddy several times when I visitedPats for longer periods ( + 1 month). Then I tended to retain boys for a period after the initial off, if I got on ok with them and they could communicate. Even visiting their Isaan homes in two cases. Mostly rewarding experiences both in and out of bed, but it could be a bit expensive.

Or more realistically to the daddy’s wallet

Blasting along Thapraya Road at 80 kph 3 up (me, driver, twink) in the late night semi darkness, the last thing on my mind was groping. I always had a lot of respect for the motor bike taxi drivers and their skills. Having said that I was always relieved when we were deposited at the entrance to the,Complex. No doubt the boy would have looked at my nervous face with amusement.

Yes I’ve got to a stage in life where I’m doing a lot more reminiscing. Discovered Sunee during my second trip to Pats in 2002. Loads of hot twinks to be found there in the bars and gogos. Took full advantage cos I was horny as hell in those days (top of course). Now i take it more easy with a variety of boys and I am 90% bottom.

During my recent trips I’ve always checked out the boy scene at Winner and I usually find what I go looking for ie twinks. When Staying in the Complex getting there is not a problem - just take a baht bus stopping at Soi VC. For the return having offed I have taken one motor bike taxi 3 up with myself in the middle being able to use the foot rests. The journey seemed like no time at all, blasting through the night air along Thrapraya Road. It has crossed my mind that it would not be appropriate for me to meet my end that way. I have stayed in Sunee but that was more than 15 years ago when the place was in its prime. I remember the Don Plaza (or elephant) which looked smart from the outside but rooms were accessed up a narrow steep stair case and very noisy. Late night The guy on reception was usually asleep or drunk and unwilling to take Id . I also stayed a couple of times at the Colonial Bar and Guest House, which was good for meeting other farang guests, who would call-up boys if you were without. During one stay I had several short times with the boy cashier, when the bar was quiet.

Yes I like it when the boy kisses me without being prompted by myself. I’ve often kissed and cuddled my boyfriends in gay localities such as the gay beach but would not do this for example around the hotel pool in front of str couples or families, for fear of causing embarrassment . Things have changed over the last 20 when I first discovered Thailand when I was nervous about say checking into a hotel not known to be gay welcoming with the intention of having “guests”.

Yes I see your point and agree with it. Obviously if he refuses to let you kiss him after you buy him a drink, it’s not likely to be a good experience after you off him and you have him in your bed. Not sure if that applies if he refuses your tongue in his mouth or down his throat.

When sat with a boy in a bar or gogo I have never asked permission before kissing them, but I would not persist if there was any negative reaction on their part. In fact I’ve only really done it when I’ve already offed the boy or had thoughts about offing. Again I would only get my tongue involved when I judge he’s ok with that. As well as in the gogos it’s common to see the Complex bar boys being kissed later in the evening when the drinks have been flowing.

I am mostly bottom these days, although for 15 years of visiting gay Pattaya I was 95% a top. being now of more of an advanced age I really only participate in sex during my regular boy orientated trips to Pty. This means that for the first encounters with top boys the problem is the pain when being penetrated, particularly by large cocks. Later after being stretched a few times the discomfort is not there to the same extent. Poppers are very useful before then during the “conditioning period”. I sniff before and whilst being ridden, ceasing only when the boy has cum. The mind wanders and I loose focus on the discomfort.

Yes I remember those gay booklets especially in the early 2000’s when I first discovered Pattaya. They were often to found on tables of the Complex bars. If I recall correctly there was a pile of them on a table at the gay Sansuck Sauna as you emerged from the changing area into the pool surround. I don’t think I did much reading there I much preferred to lay by the pool or go into the dark maze in search of action.

It seems to me that extreme noise is in the dna of Thais. I’ve been to Isaan several times with boys to their home villages and experienced local calibrations like weddings and always large speakers appear and the music blasts out. I suppose before electricity was available drums were used to produce the noise they love which together with moonshine whisky would lead to a party in contrast to their hard working lives in the rice fields. I've stayed at most of the Complex hotels, particularly at the Zing where the clientele seems to vary from one stay to the next. At one time gays like me predominate, often sitting round the pool with boyfriends, and then on other days it’s crowded with families and str couples. The Poseidon seems to be the only 100% gay hotel where the pool is indoors with an artificial pumped flow of water. I’ve not experienced troubling noise whilst trying to sleep (alone or with a boy) in a Complex hotel room due to them being situated sufficient distance from the bars.

Taiwan looks really great judging by PeterHolland’s pictures, not just for the guys but also the countryside. going back to airfares being a disincentive to travel to Thailand, I’ve being checking the prices for MAN-BKK-MAN in July which seem to be around £1000, which is 50% higher than rates in previous years. This increase is a factor for me as these days I am making 3 trips per year of 2 or 3 weeks duration, but it’s not an overwhelming one. im hesitant to book because I’m unsure as to whether I will enjoy the experience as I did in years gone by, which was that of drinking cold beer with good company in the sunshine and having sex with handsome boys. I suppose it’s getting older that’s the problem or maybe the boys aren’t as good in bed as they used to be. I like the sound of the Philippines having plenty of tops - maybe I should go there. I guess that there are a good number of older gay tourists having the same thoughts about the next holiday.

Me too - I like tight singlet tops. Combined with very brief speedos. Hot hot hot.

Whilst I am Pattaya based I often have a day in Bkk when my usual routine would be to have a morning cruise on the river followed by massage and sex in one of the parlours later on. I usually do some research online as to location and what is available, but it’s usually rather hit and miss as to the quality of the massage and then how enjoyable is the sex. These days I’m mostly bottom and 100% that way in the parlours. I want top boys who are well equipped and rock hard when it comes to penetration, and also to be patient when I ask them to slow down. It’s a happy day when these 3 factors come together.

I stayed in the hotel a couple of times pre-Covid for I think for 4/5 days each trip. It’s situated about 300m downhill in a side soi off Thrapraya Road which connects Pattaya and Jomtien. Transport is rather an issue but I had a rented motor scooter which overcame any difficulties. They had a Tuk Tuk which was sometimes available for a lift uphill to the main road. The distance to the Jomtien Complex is rather shorter than to Boyztown so I didn’t find it a problem to walk. At night it was sometimes difficult to stop a baht bus going to Pattaya on the main road as they were often full of passengers. it’s a while ago but my memory has no recollection of anything negative about my rooms and for breakfast sitting by the pool was rather pleasant. In the evenings I remember the restaurent food being pretty good. it is of course a gay hotel and I didn’t see any female guests. I usually had a boy with me overnight. I had to get one of the staff to explain on two occasions to boys from Grindr how to find the place. Guests of course get admission to the sauna and spa (including the dark maze) which opens about 4pm, but I was able to use the small pool with boyfriends during the day.

Very late evening in the vicinity of the Dongtan Gay beach - Jomtien. I’ve not tried it there for years. Also in Pattaya Pratamack Park near the Big Buddha during the evening after the joggers have gone. Can’t vouch for it now.