Travellerdave

Z909 The 2000 I quoted was in respect of boys in Pattaya, where I spend the majority of my Thai trips. Obviously the cost will be increased by the off fee, boy drinks and maybe a breakfast in the morning.

I almost always mention the services I expect and and the tip I will pay when in a gogo or bar. I think my long time rate of 2000 baht is good and I cannot recall a refusal. I have mentioned higher tips to ensure a second or subsequent nights when the boy is particularly attractive or his performance in bed was very enjoyable. When I go into daddy mode I mention potential benefits like presents of clothes or a phone in order to keep him performing.

Ryanasia has an accurate assessment of tha Bamboo Bar. It's not a place to find a pretty twink, but it's certainly a gay cafe/bar. I occasionally call in for a tea or coffee on my way back to Pattaya from the beach which is quite pleasant. I was there once when an elderly Russian couple walked in but quickly left when they saw a gay customer with his arm round a boy. I can understand how they strayed there as the Bamboo is located well away from other gay oriented business's. During the day I spend time in one of the many gyms during the late morning and then move to the Dongtan Beach for the afternoon. After that I sometimes visit the Samsuck gay Sauna about which there are many accounts on this forum. I don't often have a boy with me during the day - I find they will go to Dongtan but a bit on sufferance and are sometimes reluctant to wear the speedos I buy for them. Koh Larn is a bit crowded in the high season and I don't like the stares you get when accompanied by a boy.

I can't think of an occasion when a ladyboy turned up at my hotel from GR. As everyone knows there are always several posting there but I would never contact a full on ladyboy with breasts (Ugh), silicon around hips, slutty dress&heels, long hair etc. But I suppose it could happen if the ladyboy assumed a boys GR identity, in which case I would send him/her away empty handed. But like z909 I rather like femboys and am OK with attributes like eye makeup, painted nails or belly piercings but not the features mentioned above or female mannerisms.

That is so true and never for one moment should a sex tourist forget it. I have being visiting the "worlds biggest brothel" for 15 years and know how easy it is to be seduced by its temptations. During my first few visits I paid lip service to the need for safe sex but in reality I diced with danger having unprotected oral and anal (top and bottom) sex with boys from the bars and gogo's in BT and Sunnee. in recent years I have been sensible but there is always that moment of temptation when anal sex is about to commence to leave the condom on the bedside table. I find it easier to cum when I lube my dick before putting on the condom but this makes it easier for it to come off. After sucking I always use mouthwash but I'm not sure how much good that does. Also avoiding brushing my teeth for a few hours afterwards seems sensible.

Some boys quote a reasonable price for short time but a sky high one for long such as 5000. That's fair enough in that they don't want to spend the night in a customers bed.

I suppose that's one advantage of Sunee in that there you don't feel like a zoo exhibit for the Chinese tour groups following their flag waving guides. I was sat at Oscars a month ago with a boy and I'm sure I was pointed out by a guide as a typical old gay Western man with his young Thai boyfriend when the group paused there. Mind you these days there is not much for them to ogle at in Sunee.

Reading this thread I was trying to remember the names of gogo's in Sunnee that I visited 10+ years ago and which have been long time defunct. Z909 mentions Euro Boys and I recall the boys wearing lace up briefs which were often of a size too small to cover their assets. But the one that stirred my memory was when I remembered Kaos which then became Villa Rouge I think. The place was always packed for the mass chuck wow. I offed quite a few boys from these two during the glory days of Sunee.

Qualityonly - that's an interesting thought about about a farang writing English for the boys but it's a bit far fetched. When I contact a boy on GR I always ask for his phone number so as to avoid the message interchange delay and more accurately assess what he has to offer. The last time in stayed in Sunee, last Jamuary, I found on several occasions that I had to explain where it was, and even then one boy failed to turn up. This never happens when I stay in BT. Incidentally I stayed at the Colonial Bar which is now another of the closed businesses.

It's probably all over for Sunee. In a year or so I think it will be taken over by Muslem visitors from the Middle East. I pity I suppose. When I first discovered Pattaya it was a very vibrant area with bars, gogo's, hotels and restaurents and I spent a lot time during my visits there and stayed during a number of my trips. In subsequent years bad publicity about under age boys and drugs did damage and the decline in gay tourism added to that. I was told by a long term Pattaya hand that there was a long term plan to move the sex industry away from Beach Road to make it less visible to main stream tourists. This seems to have happened with the hetro scene in that Soi Buakhow has mushroomed during the last few years. If there was such a plan you could have envisaged the local government encouraging businesses catering for gays to move to Sunee away from BT which is close to the seafront. However I don't think town planning is thriving in Pattaya !. Access to Sunee is poor from BT and South Pattaya Road. I've often had to asked Motor Bike Taxi guys for directions when I became lost walking there from Tukcom. Getting there can be daunting for first time visitors.

You have to consider the price !. I have stayed at hotels ranging in price from 6600 per night (banyan Tree Bangkok) down to 800. Inperfections I tolerate in lower price ones I would make a complaint in the higher. The lack of hot water is a common moan in Thai hotels - but who needs it hot in a tropical climate. I have occasionally fixed minor faults in the room myself such as with curtains, rails or toilets not flushing properly. My multi function Swiss Army knife is very useful on holiday.

Looking at the Tripadviser reports on the Ambiance I see that the majority are bad although the latest referring to a visit one week ago was very positive. I stayed there a few weeks ago and my experience was the latter. I had no complaints about the room and I very much liked the restaurant. Ok the location is not for those who like to turn in early but the same could be said for many Pattaya hotels. I wonder if the bad reports come from hetro guests who were not aware that it is very much a hotel for gay sex tourists like myself and are embarrassed by others coming and going with young boyfriends.

Pity this post has not so far attracted much attention. It's a good idea. My favourite post would be "my favourite Thai Boy" started by Vessey in November 2015. It includes lots of tasty pics of members favourites and was started by this one

A few years ago I decided to stay a few days in Bkk before spending the bulk of my trip in Pats. I was feeling rather prosperous at the time so I checked in to a rather excellent hotel near Lumpini Park. A young rather gorgeous bellboy took me to my room on a high floor and proceeded to show me its features including a picture window with a great view. I rewarded him with a 200 baht tip. It was early evening and at the time I was into running so I decided to jog to the park for a few laps. Walking through the lobby I saw him and he asked where I was going in a rather friendly way. In the park ideas flooded in my head and back at the hotel I chatted to him again mentioning that later I was planning to go out for a meal and to visit bars. He asked if that would be Soi Nana and I replied no because I was gay and liked to meet boys. The following evening I was again en route for jogging and he made some flattering comments and I asked him if he liked sport. He said yes but he was sure he could not do running. I jumped in saying that perhaps he would like to go running with me. He looked embarrassed and turned away to attend to another guest. On return I wrote my telephone number on a hotel note pad and gave it to him but after two days there was no response and I didn't see him again until I checked out two days later. I gave him a 500 baht tip and took a taxi to the Tantawan as I decided to economise and was not sure about the guest,policy. Later in my room in the evening my phone rang - it was him. After a few pleasantries I asked if he would like to go jogging - the answer was no with a silence. I followed by an invitation for a meal and he agreed. In the restaurant I indulged in flirting and touching and discovered that he was not gay and was working as a temporary bellboy for the high season and mentioned his need for money. He agreed to go with me to my room after I said that I could help him with that and that I could be his daddy. In bed naked he had a beautiful smooth body and I enjoyed the usual foreplay but on lubing my cock and his hole he said he could not go further. We finished by sucking and wanking and he left with 2000 baht. The next day I phoned him inviting him to go to Pattaya with me but he terminated the call and I never saw him again.

This is something I did not appreciate. Thinking back of the many boys I have offed in Thailand I do recall several who resisted my tongue but we're OK with my dick. In future I must bear this in mind so that as I don't want to be unpleasant to the boy. I do enjoy tongue kissing as part of foreplay.

I very much go along with the advantage of engaging boys long time. During my recent trip to Pattaya the best sex I had was from offing boys (usually twinks) from gogo's. Ok I have sex on first getting the boy in bed but I love waking up next to his brown smooth body and feeling my cock hard. Gently wake him up by soft kisses and stroking and then gradually work towards lubing and getting my cock in. Great way to start another day !.

I have occasionally used poppers whilst in Pattaya but not during my latest trip as I forgot to pack a couple of bottles which I normally do. Whilst on the gay beach Dontang I kept a lookout for a seller but none appeared. I had seen them being sold during previous trips, but maybe the sellers have been caught or maybe there was no market amongst the Older gays there.

Vessel - Twinks are not normally to be found at the Samsuck but there are normally a few Thai boys there very often looking for daddies. You could certainly take a boyfriend but most customers go there to hook up in the dark rooms and maze in the upper floors. Having stauked a partner you take him into one of the many cabins. I sometimes like to leave the door partially open to invite others to enter for a small orgy. Most walk about wearing towels but a few lie nude by the pool and I sometimes wear one of my thongs or g strings. Give it a try - it's a bit hit and miss but there is nothing to loose and I find the food rather good there.

I've just returned home from a very enjoyable three week trip to Pattaya. I am versatile tending towards being bottom with a liking for twinks (especially Cambodian boys) I'm trying to remember all the boys I slept with and I think that there were twelve but maybe I've forgotten one or two. When offing from a bar I try and handle their cocks to make sure they can perform as a top. However this is not infallible as I had a couple of failures - one partial when the boy got his hard cock inside but after a short time it subsided. The other just couldn't manage an erection despite watching my best porno on my iPad. But apart from these two I was very satisfied and I'm very suprised that brall3 had his experience. From Romeo I took I Horny Boy and can confirm that he is a reliable top.

The Jomtien Complex is different to Boystown and Sunee in that it is not obviously a gay venue with non gay businesses mingling with gay bars. As such one often sees str couples wandering through. I suspect that sometimes there is a voyeur motive and a sight of a older gay farang with Thai boys an interesting sight particularly if fondling is taking place.

I think you can plan too much in advance. It sounds like you will be travelling with your girlfriend which rather complicates matters. Much of the advice above assumes that not to be the case. For example she would not be welcome at a gay sauna and to an extent females are not approved (including myself) of on the gay beach. If travelling solo I would book into a gay hotel such as the Ambiance for a couple of nights, that way you would avoid any potential embarrassment when accompanied by a boyfriend. Visit a gogo in Boystown and off a boy on a short time basis. Before this make sure you have condoms and lube. You have no doubt read in this forum the accounts of gay sexual practices, but being bottom with a boys cock inside you is not for beginners so make sure you off a bottom boy often described as gay. Give it a try you have not a lot to loose. Maybe you will decide that it isn't for you. For the first time I would not advise a sauna visit as the experience can be very variable. If you get into the gay scene you may well enjoy a visit in Pattaya to the Samsuck. Best of luck and I hope you enjoy the delights of Thai boys with their brown bodies and stiff cocks. Certainly the gay industry can do with more customers at present.

I'm in Pattaya just now and whilst I describe myself as versatile, this trip so far I have been bottom more often than top. What I have found in the past and especially over the last week is that it definitely becomes easier taking boys cocks. It's probably due to the stretching effect and also to being more relaxed. I don't rush things and prefer a gradual procedure before anal sex, involving kissing and sucking. Often watching porn on my iPad gets the mood right with illustrations of different positions. I should mention in passing that the Brit Pound is at an all time low at just over 46 as compared with 53/54 a couple of weeks ago. Certainly this makes me more cautious money wise.

I define myself as versatile with a tendency towards bottom. My ideal overnight with a boy in my bed would be an initial period of kissing sucking and rimming, following which I have the urge to be penetrated. The problem sometimes then arises after applying lube the boy looses his erection after previously it being rock hard. I hate it when he fumbles about wanking to get hard with the condom slipping off. We them have to start again with him lubing himself ready for my cock. This is in the wrong order for me but it shows the advantage of versatility. Hours later after sleeping the boy very often recovers his confidence and completes the deal.

Halfhansum if there is a cruising area at Oscars Third Floor there was no cruising when I went upstairs. They do have sling but this is low season so maybe thinGs happen at a busier time. Abang I have a small collect of thongs, jocks and g-strings daring back to when I spent holidays in Eoropean gay resorts. I have never worn them at Dongten but I've had them on at the Samsuck Sauna. I went there this evening but there was no action so I left fairly soon. Big thunder storm spoild my plan to go back to Sunee and off a twink I had checked out earlier. The mamasan assured me He could top so maybe tomorrow. The Sois are all flooded just now so back to the room Condio. Maybe a sensible idea.

I went to the Dongan Beach yesterday which is often my venue in the afternoon. It was windy and the sea was rather rough and few bathers were tempted. The concessions were quiet with many vacant chairs and no eye candy (boys wearing speedos) to brighten things up. I read my book for a couple of hours and left. I think I will visit Jomtien this evening and view the scene and probably have a massage. I had a drink in Oscars in BT again. I went upstairs to view a selection of garments they have for sale including jocks. I bought one for myself and another as potential gift for a future boyfriend. The things you do on holiday !.