Travellerdave

Yes I was suprised when Sunny Boys closed. Was this about a year ago ?. I will check out Winner boys during my forthcoming trip starting next week. A new gogo could arrest the steady decline of Sunee, which was my favourite gay area a few years ago.

I'm due in Pats in Ten days and think I will stay at Zing instead of my usual hotel in Boystown. Has anyone stayed there recently ?. It used to be called Ganymede. Is it a gay hotel or maybe mixed now ? What's the pool like ?. Any information appreciated.

Reading this thread I'm attracted to the idea of staying a few days in the Complex at the start of my trip in 2 weeks, rather than at my usual Ambience in BT. I Particularly like the mention of a plentiful supply of twinks. I've often wandered through on my way back from Dongtan Beach stopping for a drink or massage, but I've never stayed there. Googling hotels the Zing Resort (ex Ganymede) appeals and is rather cheaper than Posiedon. One review on Tripadviser by a str couple amused me by stating that they didn't like the place particularly the pool where old gay men were to be found with their young boyfriends. Sounds good to me !.

During my November trip I only offed one boy from Sunee and he was from Power Boys. I don't recall the mamasan. I would be suprised if there are any under aged working in Sunee, unlike in the past. I stay in BT and find the trek back with a boy from Sunee a nuisance. Years ago I actually stayed there but wouldn't think about it now.

I usually take boys longtime and find that the manner of their departure varies. Some can't wait to depart after being paid and on the other hand sometimes it's hard to get them out of bed and on their way and they want to continue kissing and cuddling. The offer of breakfast is sometimes necessary to get them out. I generally accompany them to recover their ID card and at the exit door a goodbye kiss is often called for. Looking forward to me next trip in Late February.

I don't care much for massage both at home and in Thailand. I've never rated the therapeutic benefits but that's just me - it's obvious that others derive benefit. As to the sexual pleasure I very much prefer to have the boys in my bed overnight. Beds are so much more comfortable than massage tables !. Maybe once or twice per three week trip I will have a massage in one of the places near Tukcom.

When I go into a gogo it is with the expectation of having a boy sit with me, although maybe 50% of the visits this does not happen usually because I don't see one which I find attractive. Encounters can cover the full spectrum from just an arm round him to cock play or tongue kissing. I rather like a bit of exhibitionism which can be enjoyed in for example Eros in Sunee. My standard tip is 100 but can be quite a bit higher when I have enjoyed the encounter. Checking out the boy before an off can be wise and having the mamasan explain to the boy what my expectations are is worth a tip or drink to him/her. I'm versatile so a hard cock is important as is the boy's willingness to rim.

I visited Vinegar in November but never saw anything for sale like that shown in Vesseys post, but maybe it's available on their website. I agree that older guys in poor shape should be very cautious about wearing extreme beachwear in public and as far as I've observed they are just that on Pattaya's beaches. When I first discovered Pats and heard there was a gay beach I imagined that it would be something like the one I had visited hitherto at Playa del Ingles on the Canaries, where all shapes and sizes congregate on a section of the beach, usually nude but sometimes sporting g-strings. When in the latter category I loved to wear my black leather g-string, which I would sometimes remove when flirting and looking for sex in the dunes. However my first visit to Dongtan showed me that beach wear there was relatively modest and my g-string stayed hidden beneath my shorts. The disappointment was however compensated by other attractions !.

Can confirm that Vinegar has nothing like the gear displayed, although I have bought brief speedos for my boyfriends there. Oscars in Boystown have a small shop on the second floor where I have purchased jocks like this one. I take a small supply of g-strings and thongs with me to Pats for pre sex wear by myself and boys.

I'm versatile but tending as I grow older to be more bottom so the shape and size of my boyfriend's cocks is a big issue. But more important is that I need them rock hard, which for a young Isaan boy should be standard. When offing from bars it is essential for me to check their cocks to make sure. There is the very occasional risk they are aspiring ladyboys on hormones. A slim long 6in + cock inside me owned by an attractive smooth boy and to finish a well filled condom is lovely.

I tend to pay more in the first few days of my trips when I go over the 2000 LT average I mention above, but not always. In November I offed LT a twinky boy from Cupidol for my first night. I'm versatile and like to be topped before sleep, but he couldn't get hard enough probably because he had done a ST earlier, despite watching porn on his phone and me sucking him. Instead I fucked him with difficulty and managed to cum. He left early in the morning with 1500 which he didn't seem pleased about.

It seems that there is a wide spread of tip size. My average is 1200 and 2000, but for the latter, which is more usual for me, the tip is only part of the cost for pleasure of a sex liaison with an Asian boy, which can include the off fee, drinks and presents for a longer time. It can't wait for my next trip in February/March when I will have the excitement of a few of them in my bed.

Pattaya is a nocturnal place with not a lot happening during the daytime. You could have a little mild fun by taking a boy to the gay beach and go in the sea with him. At a decent distance from the shore start fondling him. Of course both of you would need to be confident in the water and be able to swim with the sea not being rough. You occasionally see this and I have done it myself. A few years ago there used to be boys available for a liaison in the afternoon but now they don't seem to come anymore. I loved to see their slim brown bodies in brief speedos.

Right poppers are illegal in Thailand. Mind you I rather think the number of convictions will be very low. Watching local tv in Pats featuring all the arrests of farangs by the boys in brown, I never remember seeing anyone appear for using or selling poppers. Although I suppose being shopped by your boyfriend du jour or the room maid is a possible risk.

Not seen the popper seller on the beach during my last two trips to Pattaya but maybe I was asleep when he passed. I remember he used to cup the bottle in his hand only showing it to potential customers. Maybe poppers are illegal in LOS. When I first discovered Pats fifteen years ago I took poppers with me but over the following years I lost interest and have not used them for some time.

TCP/IP As regards the beach there are two principal ones - Pattaya Beach and Jomtien, which are separated by about two miles of a headland. The former many years ago was no doubt a beautiful 2 mile stretch of palm fringed golden sand, but regretfully no more. The sea is said to be badly polluted but you do see brave/foolish bathers. Nearly all the sand is covered by concessions who hire chairs under parasols for a small fee. Jomtien looks rather better and is much more attractive and the conventional wisdom is that it is cleaner and less than polluted. Of particular interest to gay visitors is a sub- section known as the Dongtan Gay Beach, where older gays like me like ,to spend time often with their young Thai boyfriends. Up to a couple of years ago quite a few unaccompanied Thai boys used to be found in the concessions looking for business, but for unknown reasons they are now few in number. We miss their brown slim bodies clad in brief speedos. So it is not likely that you would have a raunchy time actually on the beach, where everyone maintains a high decorum. However close by is the Jomtien Centre where there are gay boy bars where things can certainly get raunchy although there are no gogos which are to be found in Pattaya. Have a good trip !.

I'm in Pattaya now and tend to wander about a little lot. The hetro sex industry seems to be in good shape in what I suppose is high season now. I don't know how many str bars, gogo's, massage parlours etc there are - maybe 1000 with an average of 20 girls each so 20000 sex workers. As far as I know there are no comparable "dating" websites to Planet Romeo. The gay scene is far more subdued compared with when I first discovered Pats 14 years ago. In addition to BT and Jomtien Complex Sunee was thriving then with perhaps a dozen gogo's. Perhaps there are now less than 500 boys in the gay bars and gogo's catering for gays like me. Maybe nearly the same number look for customers on the Internet. The increase in ladyboys in recent years is interesting . Like Vessey says it remarkable that men claim to be str after enjoying anal sex with ladyboys. I wonder how many boys make the transition by starting to use make up, grow long hair and put on high heels etc.

I'm very carefull taking photos of boys and indeed myself. Last night I slept with a boy I contacted on GR who told me he worked at a hospital, I don't know in what capacity but he seemed educated. There is no way I would take him and publish photos. Also I would like my friends at home seeing me cavorting in Pattaya - well known as the world capital of sleaze. I have however library of pictures I have taken over the years of boys who were OK with it after me asking permission. I have a remote selfie device which enables me to get in the picture with my boyfriends.

I arrived in Pattaya on Thursday evening which I think was the end of the month's mourning. I'm staying in Boystown where things are normal I.e. Bars and gogo's open with loud music and flashing lights. Walking about town during the day I do notice a small proportion of Thais wearing black and many business have tributes to his majesty. In the Royal Garden shopping centre there is an exhibition showing various episodes during his life which is open for a few weeks which I intend to visit. last night I offed a boy from Cupidol and took him for a walk down Walking Street. At 2 am it was packed with visitors and it looked like the gogo's were doing a roaring trade, although I had no interest in going in. The noise in BT ceased about 3 am. So in summary - as far as entertainment is concerned it's COMPLETELY BACK TO NORMAL.

I went into Cupidol last night . I don't know about lots of Cambodian boys but the one I offed was. It was fairly busy at 10 pm with maybe 15 customers some cuddling boys. It's probably the best gogo in BT for twinks. The mamasan likes to chat to customers and told me she works manicure on Dongtan beach in the afternoons.

I've just come to Pats via Belltravel from Swampy. Cheap and efficient service. However you now have to book onLine. I feel safer on the big bus and now they insist you use the safety belt. If anyone wants to meet up for a chat email me - I'm staying at the Ambiance.

I went into A-bomb once during my July/August trip and found it to be a twink desert. But like Vinapu says BT has something for every gay visitor and my requirements for smooth cuties were closely met when I visited Cupidol a number of times and also Vassa, but I didn't have the pleasure of Biguyby's boy, but maybe he will be there next week when I'm in Pats again.

Older Western women visit Gambia in Africa and also Jamaica with a view to having sex with black guys. The former has a well developed infrastructure of hotels, bars etc and and flight time is only 5 or 6 hours from Europe. Inexpensive package trips are available with warm sunny weather in the Northern winter. I did a little research thinking about going there myself but there were reports of hostility towards gays. One report mentioned 50+ blonde Swedish women with Boys on the beaches and in bars, to whom they give gifts of money, clothes and iPhones. Sounds a bit familiar ?

What about the boys ?. Some twinks ?.

Yes what a difference the case of a letter makes. I don't think Oscars has a selection of Scotsman upstairs - not usually anyway !.