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Browsed GR this morning where I noticed this boy and contacted him. Exchanged messages to and fro as he didn't seem to want to give me his telephone number. He later said he had no idea where the Jomtien Complex was. Typical Thai boy - they seem ignorant of geography apart from the immediate area where they work. I told him to take a motor bike and I would meet him outside. He turned up minus ID card but I just walked him through the lobby to my room. Turns out he works in a hotel and speaks fair English. Supplements his small wage. Small twinkly boy aged 19. Nice smooth body. Small rock hard cock. Good session 4.5/5.00.

I don't have much of an appetite when in Pattaya. Today I've just had the excellent Agate breakfast. Last nights boy decided he would go back to his room at about 8 am. Suited me as I had had enough sex for one night. On the beach at 3.00 pm I had a salad with potato. That's it !. Mind you I've had 5 SAN Miguel light beers and some tea in the room. At home I am a chocoholic but here none has passed my lips, despite being tempted in 7-11 whilst buying condoms, lube, and listerine last night. Maybe I will loose a few pounds whilst here or probably not.

I've been here two days now and my impression is that this is the quietest I've ever seen Pattaya. My flight was an hour late and whilst there were no queues whatsoever at immigration my bag was virtually the last one to appear. Consequently I missed my booked seat on the Bell Travel bus, but the alternative regular bus was leaving in 10 minutes which terminates in Jomtien where I am staying. The 120 fare is a real travel bargain with the trip taking only about 15 minutes longer than a taxi at 1500 baht. I just towed my wheelie bag a couple of hundred yards from the bus to the Agate Hotel. The Agate is certainly a large top class hotel but at the moment seems very quiet - just a few guests mixed gays with boys and heterosexual couples. Rooms are very comfortable and the breakfast is superb with a choice of hot dishes cooked to order. First night I ventured to the gay bar strip which like the Agate was suffering from a distinct lack of customers which was the same last night. I did make a quick trip to BT which was equally quiet, taking in Cupidol, which was rather a disappointment, having a very average crew of boys who were not twinky enough for my taste. Returning to Jomtien I did however find an off for my bed, who met my specification. Same story at the Dongtan Beach with just a scattering of chairs taken. However it was very pleasant there with hazy sunshine and calm sea. Improvements to the beach front are well under way but do not interfere with beach activities. However the toilet was closed but you can use those at Tui's for 10 baht. Moving around on the baht buses is easier with lower traffic volumes.

I'm just at the start of my latest trip to Pattaya. Despite being very tired from the long journey I was horny enough last night to off a boy short time. An initial feel of his cock in the bar was promising and in the pre sex shower this was confirmed - a rock hard slim one maybe 6in lovely to feel and suck. However it came with a major disadvantage which emerged fairly early in the proceedings. After kissing and 69 sucking I asked him to top me. He slipped inside fairly easily and I loved the sensation but almost immediately he cum and the rock hard subsided. The rest was rather a fiasco for both of us. He wanted me to fuck him but I had lost the will, so we concluded the session. I suppose early cum is impossible to predict

I'm there next week. Good to hear such favourable reports.

Loud music keeping me awake at 3 and 4 am has been a nuisance for me whilst staying in Boystown over the years. So well done to the boys in brown on this occasion.

I've booked the Agate. No problems with bringing boys back ?. Are they allowed by the pool during the day ?. Gay friendly ?

I'm in Pats in 10 days. I decided to stay initially in the Jomtien Complex but hearing that Winner Boys has twinks I will certainly renew my acquaintance with Sunee, which was my favorite gay area during my first few visits to Pattaya 18/19 years ago. It is however a little awkward to travel between the two, but having offed I would invest in motor bike transport.

The new site is a complete mystery to me and I can't get to grips with it at all. It's becoming more difficult to get back to the old layout on my ipad

The idea of the naked night does not attract me. I have visited Babylon but the Sansuk in Pattaya is the only one I visit fairly often during my frequent trips. I've never heard of a naked night there. Most gays walk about both round the pool and in the upstairs play areas with a towel draped round the waist, but I like wearing speedos and sometimes when I'm daring one, of my g_strings or thongs. I get more welcome attention with the latter in the maze

I have found the thought of public sex rather erotic. Vessey mentioned the Sansuck Sauna which I generally visit a couple of times during my trips to Pattaya. Some visitors like to have sex in the upstairs cubicles with their boyfriends or after hookups. Occasionally some leave the door open and quickly attract an audience. Occasionally you see climbers peering over the tops of the walls to watch the action. I noticed a face looking over the top whilst I was in 69 state with a hookup. Such activities are policed but still go on. Punya likes to keep things respectable especially round the pool. I once shared a sun bed with my boyfriend doing a little kissing, but he spotted me and told me to behave !.

I use help from Kamagra in the first few days of my trips to Pattaya, which I buy from a pharmacy on Second Road, perhaps 10 minutes from Boystown, next to the Tim hetro gogo. It's reputed to sell at the lowest price in town. After topping boys successfully a couple of times I gain confidence and hornyness and chemical help becomes redundant. I do find that after taking Kamagra it seems to take me longer to cum, but I don't suffer from the headaches often reported.

Yes you could certainly use your own padlock, but as you pointed out some of those on sale in Pattaya for say 100 baht are of poor quality. Once I used one in the Tony Gym and proceeded to loose the key. The girl at the reception desk unlocked it with a hair grip !. Throughout the world tourists are preyed upon by thieves and I think Thailand is no worse than some Western Countries. France, Spain and Italy are very bad for car crime against British holiday makers. However us gay sex tourists have particular security issues in that we invite young itinerate boys into our rooms and beds. It's good to exchange ideas and experiences on this forum.

Samsuck lockers are secured by the locker lock itself and also by a padlock. You get both keys from the locker room attendant when you arrive there having paid your admittance charge. Both keys are on your arm (or leg) band which you retain for the length of your stay. Any purchases are charged to your band number. Seems as secure as they can make it. I've never had a problem there after numerous visits. Z909 I take your point about being discreet about putting items in the safe whilst having company in the room. I do this usually when the boy is in the shower. I even sometimes leave small amounts of money on the desk or slip my wallet into my travel bag which usually has a few other items in it. I don't take security to extremes but large amounts of cash, spare credit card and passport go in the room safe. I take a note of the cash amount, but have never found any missing.

On the subject of security I find that I can be rather careless after a night out in the bars and bringing a boy back to my room and the following illustrates what I mean. In the Ambiance the safe is near the room exit and you cannot see it from the bed. On one occasion during the night i woke up And went to the toilet and saw that I had left the safe door open following depositing my wallet and loose notes. I remembered that the boy had been there before me and would have also noticed the open door. I did a quick check and formed the impression that maybe money was missing. Getting back into bed I turned the situation over in my mind and was not in the mood for sex even when the boy cuddled up to me. Thankfully I did not confront him and After he had gone I checked and calculated the money carefully and realised that he had not in fact taken any, but it could have been a different story. Ladyboys are now far more in evidence now compared with when I first discovered Pattaya 18 years ago and they seem to have a bad reputation for crime. I certainly would not engage one for sex or anything else for that matter. Silicone breasts Ugh !. However maybe other gays stray and cross the line.

Regarding holding hands with boys. I find they often initiate this when accompanying them from their bar to hotels. I think they believe it to be part of the off ritual. I'm OK with it in gay areas and is common place to see older gays doing the same with their young boyfriends in BT, Sunee, Jomtien Complex on Dongtan Beach. Hetros are often seen holding hands with girls young enough to be their grand daughters on Beach Road. However I would not do it for example at the Soi Buakhow Market or in a shopping mall and of course it's rather difficult on Pattaya's crowded and often uneven sidewalks.

There is no set time for a ST. It depends on mainly on you. Could last 3 hours but frequently a Lot less. For me Often it comes to an end following me cumming following topping the boy but sometimes afterwards I like a little kissing and cuddling. For long time it is better to specify the expected time of departure, as some boys try and leave too early and occasionally it's hard to get them up, dressed and away. Typically it could be between midnight and 9/10 am, but sometimes I will take them to breakfast or even with them staying for part of the day, perhaps going to the pool or beach. When you like a boy that can result in him being with you for the rest of your holiday. I've had long term young boyfriends in the past but not during recent trips. However they will still be money boys requiring payment and often expect presents of say clothes or jewelry, so not necessarily a low cost option.

In February I stayed at the Posiedon. Of the major Complex hotels it's one of only two 100% gay places, the other being The Venue. So if you don't want contact with hetros or women it would be a good choice. I was very satisfied. It's got a rather unique very small indoor pool with a pumped current, against which you can swim. Once I used it in company with another guest, both of us having fun with our boyfriends. For dinner the restaurant is very good if you value quality food, but the breakfast is not so special.

For me the main purpose of calling a boy from the stage would be to check him out as a potential off. I prefer to get my gratification in bed rather than by a lot of fondling in the bar. As a rule I would not try and expose his cock rather I would assess it for hardness by gliding my hand over his shorts. In the same way I like to assess his kissing by a quick tongue kiss but not a lengthy session.

Pity about the decline. Last year Cupidol was a happy hunting ground for those like me who like twinks. I did find however that n February this year when I made a couple of visits that the proportion was lower and that cute boys were in short supply.

Samebb Can you elaborate your statement that you "have to be a special kind of strange to want to stay there" and "it's a shit hole". I'm contemplating staying there during my next trip and all the reports seem positive and that it is gay friendly. Earlier this year I stayed at the Posiedon which was fine but rather more expensive than Zing.

If the powers that be in Pattaya saw sense they would see that the Jomtien Complex should be developed into the prime gay area to the disadvantage of Boystown. If the long term aim is to move towards a family friendly resort, Boystown has to be run down because of its name and its prominent position close to Beach Road and Walking Street. The nightly parade of guided Chinese really annoys me being treated as some sort of freak to be stared at. On the other hand The Complex is inobtrusive away from families and hetro couples and Chinese !. Gogos should be encouraged there and gay tourism nudged in that direction. Sunee has been ruined by its past, its reputation and the development of the area towards catering for Middle East visitors. It's also difficult to locate as I found when I first discovered Pattaya 16 years ago. However when I did it was my favourite for a few years.

It would seem that the majority in this thread, including myself, prefer the "pay off and return later". The motive here would be to secure the boy early, who would be probably one of the more attractive ones in the bar and hence likely to be offed, without the boredom of him accompanying you until your preferred bedtime. There is of course the risk that he does a short time or cums in the bar and so reduces his performance in bed, which would be very annoying for for me, as although I'm versatile I generally like the boy to fuck me first. Maybe now in the low season there is not the necessity to secure your boy early if there are fewer customers about. I'm due in Pats 5 September so maybe I will off late.

One negative factor with the pay off and return later is the risk that when you return for the boy you find him sat with a customer who is examining the "goods". This happened to me during my last trip at Cupidol when "my boy" took quite a while to disengage and go and get dressed, join me and leave, with hostile looks coming from the disappointed guy who thought he had a boyfriend for the night.

Yes if i latch onto a cute boy relatively early (say before 11 pm) I avoid taking him from the bar then but instead pay the off fee and return later. There is not much point in taking them back to your gay area hotel much before 1 am due to the noise from the surrounding bars. I cannot concentrate on sex when some drunken farangs rendering of "I did it my way " booms through the windows and walls. Taking them to BBB would be rather expensive and I don't enjoy the place much these days. After collecting them from the bar the best would be to have a meal together at a restaurant or with street food in the room. The last option could increase the tip if he deserved it.