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So I have been on the forum for sometime to collect tips / lessons learned from the different posts here, as well as refering to external resources. I thought it would be great just to share my observation on best practices in the forum. Hoping that this could be helpful for first timer gay visit to Bangkok. If you have anything else - feel free to add. A mandatory read it of course the Shameless Mack travel log - https://shamelessmacktwo.travel.blog/category/bangkok/. God bless his soul for being a faithful field reporter of his escapades in Bangkok with lots of charm and character. The forum here also contains many trip report which are written by forum veterans … (Vinapu and others) Massage Parlor Understand that there are different type of massage parlors. Not all massage parlors are created equal: Booking or not: Parlors along Silom area tend to operate on walk-ins (VCK Club, Arena massage) while Saphan Khwai operate on booking basis (KMAN, Phetboy, One, etc). You must have LINE on your phone and add individual massage parlors on LINE to make prior booking. From what I gather, the booking need not to be made too far in advance - a day or two before is probably sufficient Tipping: It is important to understand what is the minimum tips required for each shop. Whereas the massage parlor state a minimum tip of 1000 baht+ - this signals that some sex is included - if you are not sure and want to have an exact activity in mind, be sure to ask in advance. The common courtesy here is to tip above minimum (up to 50%+) if service received is good. General thai massage parlor: Some stores along Silom are just a general massage place (like Green Massage by way of example). Here there will be a negotiation with the masseur if you want additional service and what that entails Not all massage parlors have “happy ending”. For instance, Prime Massage is known for their quality massage and unlikely you’ll have happy ending here. Some men-oriented massage is targeted at high end of the market and will not have sex involved (e.g. Prestige massage, MSense Massage) comes to mind There are tons of massage shops out there - some are geared toward tourist with tried and true business model (VCK, Prince, Ssense, Gannymede, Arena) while some are geared toward local (KMan, Aura, One, etc). There are stores further out too that are just not in tourist area (Taywa, Master Gallery, etc). VCK club is likely the most famous shop among foreigners - I’ve heard that the service in this store has gone down with it being too mechanical. You’ll likely be in and out well below the time purchased If receiving masseur photos in advance, be cautioned that the photo has been enhanced in post-edit - just to keep expectations realistic. The profile of the masseur will often indicate HEIGHT/WEIGHT/ Orientation (Gay/Straight/Bisexual) / Tool size. Generally have cash ready for tips and to purchase the massage. Do not bring valuables or too much cash. Gogo Bar (The One, Dreamboy, Moonlight, etc) GoGo bar is another way (beside Massage parlor) that enable you to have an ‘encounter’. Each bar has its own forte and the reports by various forum members here describe the type of performers are there. Sometimes you can also check out their TikTok to see the lineup of guys there. There is typically en entrance fee (500 Baht+) that includes a drink The shows typically start late 10p+ During the show, you will have an opportunity to interact with ‘mamasan’ or ‘papasan’ to see which boy you are interested to take with you at the end of the night The best practice here it seems is to have a quick chat with the boy first (with mamasan/papasan help, or just wave at him). If you have a chat with the performer, then you need to buy him a drink and maybe a small tip like 100 baht (if you dont end up taking him) During the negotiation, the best practice is to ask how much is his service be depending on your preference (Short time - couple of hours, or Long time - until next day). This is to avoid surprise of tip amount at the end. If you absolutely need certain activity to be carried out, it also does not hurt to ask now I believe the rate for ST here is about 1500baht-2000baht whereas long term can be as much as 3000-3500baht. You will also need to pay a bar fine 500baht typically when you take the boy away If the boy end up leaving earlier than anticipated, you adjust the tip accordingly (advice per forum member here) Based on my guestimation, the time you will be able to take the boy off with you is likely well past midnight - therefore this method is less than ideal to those who tend to like to sleep earlier Apps (Grindr/Hornet/JackD/etc) App is a very common way to find ‘encounter’. Of course, this is probably one of the more uncharted territory that comes with its own risk and reward. It is important to state your boundary if you have any (Such as no drugs, no alcohol, etc). Pay attention to emoji / description of the profile If you encounter money boy, looks like the rate is similar to the rate quoted above for Gogo Boy I heard some hotels as safety measures are more strict with guests and that you may have to register him. I think that’s totally cool and add layer of protection Sauna / Baththouse Some famous sauna in Bangkok comes to mind like Krubb, Sauna Mania, R3, etc. These saunas involve an entry fee (500baht?) and has the typical feature of a gay baththouse: change room, dark room, shower, onsen, sauna, movie room, lounge area, etc You can see in advance which day the sauna may have a ‘special peformance’ that night which may involve some group activity which you may participate / just see As with any visit to any gay bathhouse, it is 100% YMMV (Your Mileage may vary). However, if you go in with the expectation just to experience it - especially during night of performance - that on its own can be rewarding to some extent Safety / STD: This need not to be said that you need to pay attention to it. Best practice for STD prevention should be top of mind. At the end of the day, just as with any trip, you may have good experience on certain days and encounter hiccup on another - so don’t worry. We are just learning from each experience and most importantly to have fun Feel free to add any other tips that I may be missing

For my 63rd birthday, I decided to join @vinapu in Bangkok. We had already met up in Pattaya the previous week with another forum member. For my birthday, we celebrated in Moonlight, piggy-backing off of the party that was already underway for Jessica. Earlier in the day on the 29th, I treated myself to a Vinapu recommendation, Alex, a wonderful muscle Burmese guy in my Raya room with the "in the middle of the suite" transparent glass shower. ohh lala... On the following day, the 30th of August, I decided to pamper myself at the new GLAM's Massage & Spa, that was getting a lot of gossip, reviews, etcetra in the Twitter (X) Massage Insider forum. --> reference to what is the Massage Insider forum from 26 January 2024 https://www.gayguides.com/forums/topic/40375-is-the-gay-scene-dying-off/page/5/#comment-372916 It is located at: 380/2 Ratchadaphisek Rd, Samsen Nok, Huai Khwang, Bangkok 10310 and can be easily reached via the MRT Blue line at the Sutthisan station and then just a 5 minute walk to the shop. From our BKK gay ghetto, it is only 8 stops away from the Lumphini blue line MRT station to Sutthisan. - around 40 baht. Here is the front of the GLAM shop. I took my sneakers off and left them outside of the entrance door. Here is the reception - you will see that it is huge and beautiful. You will be greeted by the manager and told what is on offer for that day and shown a menu of various programs. From here, I was taken up 1 flight via a large beautiful staircase where you are made to feel like you are in a museum or art exhibition. I was not allowed to take a photo on this first floor because the manager was sensitive about what could be misinterpreted (as I told him that I was going to write an article for a gay farang newsletter) --> as the shop was only open 2 weeks - and they wanted a chance to survive (any wrongly prying eyes) this initial opening this soft opening period. If you were lucky to visit the former Hero (Sukhumvit soi 11) or the current Prince - there is the famous glass wall with the hot guys pumping iron and showing off so that you can select your guy(s) for your visit. https://www.gayguides.com/forums/topic/10299-hero-massage/#comment-89772 internet photo of Prince glass wall for illustration purposes Well, GLAM has a similar concept, but instead of workout equipment behind the glass wall there are several leather sofas where the guys sit and with the manager you select your guy from outside of the glass. Unfortunately, on the day that I showed up - it was 1pm and all of the guys were in a training class for their new Hot Stone massage offering. So, the manager was able to only get 3 guys to exit the training class so that I could chose 2 from them - as I was interested in = surprise --> hahahaha --> a 4 hands massage. The manager told me that they have 30 guys working for them. So, my 2 masseurs walked me up another 3 flights to the top floor 4, to the VIP room. The massage VIP room was huge with a big comfortable bed and an amazing shower where we truly had a lot of "warm up" fun. All was good - the 4 hands massage, the "afters", and the "cool down shower" get ready to go back outside onto the streets of Bangkok. My program was expensive - as I selected the VIP room and 2 guys for 90 minutes. I paid 1.750 to the massage shop and each guy's minimum tip was 1.800 each - so the total for my birthday extravaganza was: 5.350 baht. For me it was well worth it. They have much cheaper prices for standard rooms and with just 1 masseur for 60 minutes instead of 90 minutes. Would I go again? YES, as it was nice to see another Bangkok neighborhood and to experience a decadent type of new massage shop like GLAM. I wish them the best of luck. Enjoy.

After a successful venture at Arena, I spent the rest of the afternoon and early evening recharging with a good snooze and a glass of wine. However, when the temptation to get out and about became unbearable, I marched towards Surawong for a foot massage and to indulge in my favorite sport—people-watching. Around half past nine, I made my way to Good Boy. Perfect timing, as a few customers were already inside, sparing me the awkwardness of having everyone on stage vying for my attention. Scanning the room, I noticed that both 7 and 42 were present tonight. Now, it was just a matter of making the right choice between the two. As soon as the Papasan saw me, he promptly sat next to me, and we engaged in our usual chitchat. Interestingly, this is the only bar where I’ve ever been asked if I’ve had dinner! While still wavering between 7 and 42, 7 caught my eye and grinned mischievously, making my heart flutter just enough to summon him to sit beside me. 7 is from Laos, and his English isn’t the best, considering he only started working in bars this past April. But there's something so engaging about his persona that the language barrier hardly mattered. Either that, or he’s so good-looking that I was just giddy having him next to me. As the show began, we continued our conversation using a translator app. Oddly, the app kept translating "Top" as "complainer," which we both found amusing. I shrugged it off, and we agreed to let him “complain” on me tonight—and maybe tomorrow morning too. After 7 went to get dressed, I watched the show, eagerly awaiting Mai's performance. He’s such a handsome lad, and I would’ve "offed" him if given the chance. Unfortunately, I was told he’s not offable, as his partner works at the bar manning the counter. After Mai's performance, 7 and I headed out to the street. I asked where he wanted to eat, and he gave the standard "up to you." We took a taxi back to the hotel, and once in the room, I handed him my phone and asked him to order food for both of us. We showered together, and just as we finished, our food arrived—perfect timing. After dinner, I handed him the TV remote, offering him the chance to watch something. We cuddled up for a good half-hour before he shyly suggested going to bed—a suggestion I didn’t resist. In bed, he turned out to be a surprisingly passionate kisser. He took his time before "complaining" on me, which I thoroughly enjoyed. After we cleaned up, we stayed up chatting, watching silly videos on his phone, laughing together, and looking at photos of his family. We fell asleep cuddling, with me wearing a huge grin. Lucky 7, indeed!

When I stumbled across these forums, I was shocked that people openly and unashamedly recount their experiences and recommendations for the sinister practice of sex tourism. What a bunch of pervs you are! I feel right at home 🤗 Since this is my first post, I’ll start with the country where I have the most (and most recent) experiences: Brazil. Rather than repeating what everybody else has already said, I’ll just highlight some of the salient points. Forgive any duplication with other threads. I understand that I cannot yet see all threads (since I’m a newbie) so my post my contain ideas that are already discussed in those invisible threads. In/out: I always order in when playing from Grindr or meeting a GP from an ad. When booking my AirBnB, I therefore avoid apartments that have rules along the lines of “Only persons registered at the time of booking are allowed in the apartment.” I’ll only use a hotel in a country that I haven’t visited (and only if I’m concerned about safety there). And when reserving that hotel, I’ll book it for two persons (to avoid a situation where the desk says that only one person is allowed in the room). In Rio I always stay in the Ipanema/Copacabana neighborhoods; in SP, always Consolação/Jardins. Ads: I use Grindr (for playing and for GPs), garotocomlocal and vivalocal. I enjoy tantra massages but also like screwing. I have hired two masseurs from vivalocal who advertise “massage only” to receive a tantra/naked massage… and ended up making out and having lots of foreplay with one and fucking the other one. In fact, that is my ideal GP date. Regarding the ad photos/videos, I’ve seen many ads over the last few years with the same old photos. (I do the same thing with my Grindr pics, so: pot, kettle). I also realized that many of the GPs do commercial photoshoots when they’re in peak condition (eg, after finishing a cycle of steroids). The difference between their peak condition and their standard condition might be significant. Of course, even in their non-peak condition they are usually gorgeous. So do not be disappointed if the 8-pack abs are missing when you meet your online GP in person. Online GP prices: When establishing contact with GPs, I use WhatsApp with a local number (from a local SIM) and write in Portuguese in an effort to not receive an inflated tourist price. Because I don’t want to give the GP a step-by-step play of everything that I want him to do, I usually just inform the GP that I enjoy massages and that I am top. Many GPs have one price for massages, plus another price for bottoming (which, if I remember correctly, they refer to as the “full program”). They usually also have a surcharge for Uber. To avoid any issues, I now am always clear that I am paying one single price for their time and that there are no surcharges. I usually get a lot of pushback regarding the Uber, but I prefer GPs who are flexible, so I stick with that filter. As a result, all of the GPs who I do not filter out have been great and have always received generous tips (much more than what the Uber surcharge would have been). Rejecting GPs: Chemistry is extremely important to me. If the GP has arrived in the last 120 seconds and no clothes have been removed, I will only give him the equivalent of what the Uber charge would have been but not the price of the massage/program. Luckily that has only happened once in the last 18 years. Dance clubs: I never finished mourning Le Boy (at the Ipanema/Copacabana intersection) and then had to start grieving the closure of The Week (Rio). So I don’t even bother with dance clubs when I visit Rio these days. São Paulo has many more options for nightlife, although frankly I haven’t tried any of the SP dance clubs because I’m always too busy enjoying the REAL reason for my trip. Safety: I use Uber instead of taxis. I never use street trade. The AirBnBs that I choose all have a doorman. A couple of times I made GPs send me (via WhatsApp) a copy of the ID that they would be showing to the doorman. I walk a lot while in Brazil but rare venture beyond Ipanema/Copacabana or Consolação/Jardins. While there, my clothes are never flashy; just basic shorts, tank top and sandals. No jewelry or watch. No phone in hand. No camera. When going to the beach, instead of wearing speedos I wear a swimsuit with a pocket and only take sunscreen, a book and enough money to rent a lounge and umbrella (and to buy a couple of drinks), but leave my cards, cash and phone in the AirBnB. Fortunately (knocking on wood as I type this) I personally haven’t had any physical safety issues (but do not know people who were not being cautious and were mugged or robbed at gunpoint). Gyms: Relatively inexpensive day passes are available at most conventional gyms. As you might imagine, the eye candy is there incredible. I never hooked up directly from the gym but did hook up on Grindr with someone who went to my gym. Rio vs SP: When I’m more in the mood for the beach and relaxing (with sex as an added bonus), definitely Rio. When I’m more in the mood for sex, definitely SP. If you’re mostly a fan of online GPs, note that many of them do travel circuits throughout Brazil. So don’t plan on going to a certain city just for one particular GP, since it is highly possible that he may have moved on to his next destination when you arrive. OK, I guess that’s (more than) enough for now. Hopefully someone finds this helpful.

that's harsh and insensitive. Those 'idiots ' are aplenty, they mop your floors , sort your garbage, flip your burgers and mow lawn in your park. Not everybody has parents pushing them through school, quite opposite, pushing them out as soon as they finish basic schooling. Often , instead of taking courses they spent time tending to disabled family members and litany may go on and on. Even if lazy, chances are, they are happier with their lives than people retiring with 5 times as much and constantly losing their sleep because movement of currency or stock prices. With such attitudes , no wonder that they vote for snake oil peddles like Trump and stick to them. Comments like that enforce my long held believe that communism will return and I'm glad I'm too old to see it's resurrection as it won't be pretty.

Hey all! Been a lurker here for some time and finally visited Thailand for the first time some at the beginning of August. Been meaning to write this post for a while now, but been procastinating for far too long 😂. Oh well, here we go! To start, I'm from Latin America but currently live in China and I'm pretty damn young, younger than most bar boys even hahaha. I don't really know why I engage with bar stuff/moneyboys, I really don't need it, but in a somewhat wicked way I do somewhat enjoy the dynamics of it... I don't know 😛 (be it in Thailand, China or back home). Anyway, everyone know's Thailand's fame for this kind of stuff, so I was excited! China's MB scene is quite great, amazing handsome boys that enjoys doing all kinds of stuff, but oh is it expensive!! You can easily spend $400+ for short time, which is not really sustainable At first, I went to GBEAT Spa. No real reason, but I had a thai friend recommend it to me (I suspect he worked there lol). Prices seemed reasonable, boys were mostly meh but I found one that really caught my eye. Boys were divided into "gay" and "men", which i thought slightly funny lol. The room was nice enough, the boy was super nice but the massage was pretty mediocre and he couldn't for his life find my asshole, my poor perineal! When it was time to spice things up, I asked to top him and he was utterly confused saying he was never asked to bottom before. Thankfully, even though he acted surprised a little he didn't seemed to bother it and did it anyway, I thought he was just playing hard with the whole "ohh noo I've never done it beforee.." thing, but oh boy! That INSANELY thigh ass almost ripped my cock out 😂. Felt a little bad for him, even more because he was clearly struggling with it, so I left a bigger tip at the end (even though he nailed the fuck out of my butt 😅). When I said that I spoke Chinese, he started moaning in Chinese, which made me really struggle not to laugh One day later, I wanted to try out the bars. I'll start by saying that the LGBT scene in Bangkok as a whole really dissapointed me, I was kinda expecting something more, I don't know. Few bars and most of the boys honestly didn't looked that great... but anyway! I was reading conflicting info about all the bars, so instead of trying to min-max my night I just walked into the first one I saw haha that one being HotMale! The bar was empty... literally! I had all of the boys on stage looking at me and vying for my attention, it was quite the awkward position 😅. Honestly, most of them were preeetty damn ugly, but at that point I had already paid for my drink, so might as well stay! I ended up calling a cute Cambodian boy (I think 31 or 32), he couldn't speak much English and just kept using his small vocabulary (mostly variations of "i fuck"). The mamasan had pretty good English and we kept chatting a little, until he told me to take the boy out and he took me to a hotel upstairs (I couldn't take him to mine). The boy was still cute but kinda felt like a slab, pretty uninterested in the whole thing. After a miserable amount of roleplay he cums and.. leaves?? Demands 2000bht for not even 15m of sucking. I was aware that he was bullshitting me big time as I made the mistake of telling I was new in the city, but oh well, not worth the hassle, so I just paid and left in frustration for my first night 😂 The next day I went back to the first SPA I went, I really liked the first boy and I wanted to try out the 4 hands massage. Wanted to call another boy that I almost chose the first time, but according to the manager he was sick, so I spent some time looking around again as many boys couldn't work in a pair according to the manager, I ended up choosing someone kinda meh but still hot enough. We went upstairs to the same room as last time and they waited outside for me to take a bath. The massage this time was actually not bad at all, the new dude had great big hands and the old one knew how to make it really erotic by hitting the right places and moaning in my ears. The new one seemed pretty disinterested and in a hurry, which kinda sucked, but he also cummed many times and kept placing my hand on his cock, so who knows 😅. Cute boy however never took out his underwear, this time no penetration happened in 2hrs After that I went to the southern islands in the gulf and spent quite a few weeks, I only returned to Bangkok when it was time to catch the flight back to China. Nothing happened during this time as there wasn't much on the islands for that and I was having a great time overall. When in Bangkok, I wanted to overcome my shitty first bar experience and go somewhere that actually had people for a change. I ultimately settled on Dreamboy due to some Chinese tourist recommendations, and have to say that it didn't disappoint at all! The only thing that REALLY annoyed the hell out of me was that maybe due to my age, clothing etc the staff ignored me quite a lot, lost the boy I wanted cuz the mamasans clearly ignored me. Anyway, I ended up calling 103 from the show, he was quite huge and looked so happy dancing! He sat really excited next to me and took out the phone from his pocket for us to chat though the translator. He was from Myanmar and we watched the show together while he groped my body from top to bottom while wearing his dancing jockstrap, quite nice! Ended up offing him and it was the complete opposite from the other dude, he was a total sweetheart from beginning to end. Grabbed me though my waist or shoulders while we went to 7-Eleven and lied me down on his legs while we were on the taxi on the way to the hotel. On the hotel, we took a bath and when I went to bed he was already laying down stroking his rock hard cock looking at me and using all of his english to say "Come suck". Oh yes I will~. The sex was phenomenol, but I embarassingly didn't last long (at least not long enough to warrant the short time ;P) and he already got all dressed up. What's up with Thai boys and wanting to dash though the door at the first opportunity 🙃 Oh well, final considerations: I honestly really disliked Bangkok. Not only for the boys, but I genuinely didn't find anything special with it, really. Insanely dirty, overcrowded and nothing much to see if you're already used to Asian life. Most of the other young tourists I met were backpackers with shit for brains with an insanely high-and-mighty attitude and no respect or common sense whatsoever. Sooo many people that travelled all over the world but seemed to have lever left the same place, idk. The boys themselves were fine but honestly nothing special either, I much prefer the ones back home. The bar system is quite needlessly overcomplicated and the boys aren't really cheap or hot enough to warrant the price. Back home I can just pay 1800 with no hotel, drinks, off fees and god know what and just fuck with the hottest people you can imagine (and they aren't straight neither will complain if you get 200m too close to their butthole even if by accident). I suppose I'm just not the target audience, I really just want to fuck while I feel like in Bangkok they're selling a whole love experience, I don't know how to explain. I want to just switch off my brain and get railed/rail someone, but I feel like I have to micromanage the Thai boys to do anything, otherwise they just stay there. Feels too commercial maybe. I'll be back for sure, but next time I can just stay for two nights, have some fun and leave, maybe I'll have someone from the forum help me out hahaha

Having read a lot of interesting trip reports and learned a lot from these as well as from interesting questions and answers, I thought I might try my hand at a (not very detailed ‘cause its a year ago almost) trip report from Malaysia. I was there in November of 2023, entered the Country by train from Singapore, stayed one night in Johor Bahru, two nights in KL and four nights in Georgetown. From there I traveled overland to Chumphon, Thailand, and got on a boat to Koh Tao, but that’s a different story… Johor Baru was an interesting, but unnecessary stop. I booked a night there because I wasn't sure how regular I could expect the border trains from Singapore to be or how smooth the border crossing would be. Very regular, very smooth turned out to be the case, so that left me a good half day, an evening, and a night to enjoy Johor Bahru before catching a train to KL the next day. JB is not exactly a picturesque city and not very walkable, but you are probably not here for the family friendly version of my trip with sightseeing and good food, so I will leave those details for Instagram and go on to the topics of interest to this community; boys and men. Malaysia has three very distinct population groups, Malay, Chinese and Indian, so both food- and hook-up wise there are a lot of flavors to sample. I don’t have a specific type and like guys in their 20s, 30s and sometimes 40s (so many men, so little time!). I must say however, that I found Malay Malaysian exceptionally beautiful. High cheek bones, almond shaped eyes, cute little noses, pretty lips and regular white teeth in just the right proportions seem to adorn the faces of many Malay men and women. Grindr is my hook-up app of choice, and I got a decent amount of attention. One message was from a guest from the local sauna “the Maze” (or it might have been direct marketing from the sauna itself). I decided a trip to the sauna would be a perfect way to sample different types so I went. As far as I recall the place had a bar, a gym and a fairly big maze where the sampling took place. It was a fairly mixed crowd of mostly Chinese and Indian descent in their 30s, 40s and 50s, so there were samples to be had. Sadly it was mostly sampling because the maze was haunted by a little old man and his flashlight. I don’t know if his job was to clean or to make sure the hanky panky didnt get out of hand, but he did a great job at both. After a couple of hours of a lot of close close encounters interrupted by the infinite loop of flashlight man, I decided I had had enough appetizers and went back to the city center for dinner and another look at Grindr. Among others I chatted with an early 20s Malay man, we met for a drink and a chat and went to my hotel where we had a really good time. I stayed at the Bello Hotel JB Central and there was no issue bringing my date to my room. Maybe because I had booked for two, or they didn’t care, or my assumption that the receptionist played on our team was correct. I hope my sample of Malaysia is of interest to the forums and plan to make a report on KL and Georgetown in the near future.

So, after three days of work trip in Taipei perpetually surrounded by colleagues and having zero fun (seriously, how can you be surrounded by cute Taiwanese men and not have a chance to enjoy?), I finally landed in Bangkok, ready to unleash some excitement. My luck was on fire right from the get-go—I breezed through immigration, and my luggage appeared on the carousel before I could even blink. From landing to securing my Sim card outside for less 20 minutes. Seems like the universe is finally cutting me a break! I got to my hotel, Quarter Saladaeng, way earlier than expected, but lucky me, they had a room ready for an early check-in. This place seems pretty great! It’s competitively priced, within a healthy walking distance to Silom, and they've got a free shuttle to BTS Saladaeng/MRT Silom. It’s the perfect balance—close enough to be convenient but far enough from the chaos. Oh, and some the staff? Super cute! There’s one ruggedly adorable doorman who’s so charming I’d consider hiring him if he is a bar boy. He even helped me with my ridiculously large delivery of bottled water and random stuff. Fingers crossed I get to see him more. First stop: the reincarnated The One, which I missed last time. Big mistake , I showed up too early and asked if I could return the unopened can of Coke and come back later, and they were cool with it. I spent some time strolling down Surawong Rd., taking in the sights and smells. There’s something uniquely electric about this place—it’s crowded, a bit grimy, and just so sensory-stimulating. When it started to drizzle, I ducked into Good Boy and ended up chatting with their mamasan while lounging on the outdoor couch. She kindly invited me inside to check out the night’s lineup for free. Tee, the papasan, spotted me and started raving about their new hires—"Lao, Lao, Lao, so many from Laos!" he said. According to him, numbers 7 and 42 seemed promising. Before their show started, I left, promising to return later. At Tawan, the 10:30 showtime got pushed to 11. I was starting to worry that the recent negative reviews might be spot-on. The guys weren’t in top form, but as the show went on, I saw glimpses of the old Tawan charm—the friendly banter and lively atmosphere. I left hoping things will only get better from here. Back at Good Boy, the place was almost packed. The papasan directed me to a seat just as a customer was vacating it. Coincidentally, T—one of my previous favorites—was at that table and recognised me (even remembered the hotel we went to last time!). T immediately started working his magic, reminiscing about the fun we had at Khaosan Bar and insisting he’d like to "take care" of me again. He was pretty persuasive, so I decided to play it safe tonight and maybe check out numbers 7 and 42 next time.

Hi, long time Rio resident / expat here. This whole back and forth about whether or not there is higher pricing for gringos / tourists is never going to be solved. The answer is: “it all depends”. (1) It depends on who the garoto is. Some garotos price themselves higher than some others — usually because they look like male supermodels or are built like professional athletes, or are hung like a Shire horse — and the market has already taught them what price point they can command. (2) It depends on who the client is. Often, like with many other kinds of services, regular clients get reduced rates. A client that may not be seen ever again, or at the most only once or twice a year, or who may not see him regularly but also doesn’t provide him fringe benefits like gifts and Western Union, probably should not expect this kind of discount for a programa. Also, like it or not, looks / attraction as well as age, charm and personality, do matter to quite a few of the garotos — whether “straight”-identifying or not. The extremely rare superstar client that resembles something like George Clooney, Henry Cavill, Ricky Martin or Idris Elba would get this “discount.” But the overwhelming majority of us clients not blessed with such physical gifts aren’t in this category, and have to flirt with our wallets instead. (3) It depends on what the client wants out of the programa. Asking a garoto to do more performative or more “difficult” or unusual sex work in a short programa — especially for a visiting, rare client — is more likely to increase the cost. Remember, these are human beings, not machines. Yes, there are some garotos who want take advantage, act like scoundrels and charge foreigners more just because they’re gringos and might be naive or unaware of the current market. There are also some who will charge the same, no matter who the client is or what is done during the act. But the price is also to be negotiated and agreed upon in advance, each garoto charges his own price, and he is not obliged to charge the same price as the others, nor is he obligated to charge each client the same. The guys all are independent contractors, not employees of the saunas. The client goes into this knowingly and willingly. It seems like the problem arises when clients take these pricing differences personally. Hey, I’ve also seen the reverse occur: garotos getting upset when they somehow find out that a client paid another garoto more than him! So, it all evens out, I suppose… Gringos / tourists paying more has always been part of “the game.” It’s not like how it is with gentrifying-areas real estate prices; it’s more like tourist-area restaurants or gift shop two-tier pricing. It doesn’t seriously affect local pricing, and locals already know about the two-tier system. Gringos also try to “game” the system themselves by getting local pricing on what basically amounts to only a few dollars, euros or pounds difference between the two. Hope this helps.

I am confused. I believe that you wrote in a previous post from a previous trip that you did not like the fact that you brought your Filipino partner with you to Thailand because it was limiting your ability to have fun. Is the purpose of your Filipino partner to fill the empty void that occurs when you might feel lonely ? I am curious because over the years I have had friends who dreaded to feel lonely and could not do anything alone and would often call you to fill their void to feel lonely - I never liked the feeling of being an NPC to fill the role of substituting someone's fear of the void / loneliness - instead of them wanting to genuinely be with you - and not because instead they needed to avoid the fear of the void and loneliness. It made me feel as a place holder because the friend was not willing to discover the source of this fear of the void = to be alone and where it comes from. I love being alone - I recharge when I am alone and I do not fear it. Some of my best vacations have been when I was alone, as it forced me out of my comfort zone and I was challenged to meet new interesting people and to see new exciting places. Often in the past, when I vacationed with friends - we often only hung out together with each other and we never met any new interesting people and these types of vacations were more bland (harder to remember) than those when I was alone.

Since i didnt have any company last night, i invited my friend to join me for breakfast at my hotel. We then did a bit of shopping trip to the new shopping mall, Emsphere in Sukhumvit, near Phrompong station. Fan of Jeyspa should be familiar with this bts station already. We had our lunch at the famous Terminal 21 food court, Pier 21. Cheap food, not much diff than street food pricing, in a convenient and air-conditioned mall. We continue shopping a bit more in Emporium before making our way back to Saladaeng BTS for him and Chong Nongsi BTS for me. Since im already near prestige center, i just went in to see if my masseur is available earlier than my booking at 5pm and the counter said he is not available earlier. So i went back to hotel to rest before coming back for my session. Prestige massage center is very close to BTS Chong Nongsi station, near Silom Soi 7. From BTS, take the exit toward silom, and the center is just less than 100m from the stair. Very convenient location indeed, very near to Furama Sathorn. The lobby is well appointed, manned by 2 person, a male and female receptionists. Since I already says hi an hour before, when i arrived, they already know who i booked. They asked me to sit and offer a refreshing drink, and asked me what type of oil do want. I already booked through line 120min Aromatheraphy Massage for 1650 Baht with masseur of my choice. Not long after, my masseur appear and my oh my, he is drop dead gorgeous, and i blushed a little lol. He leads me to the massage room which is on the second floor. The room is definitely very upscale. Roomy room complete with sofa, a very comfortable and decent size massage bed with face hole, ensuite bathroom that is also spacious. Definitely worth the higher price, though not by much. There is a minimum tip of 50 baht for foot and thai massage, and 200 baht for all aroma courses. The oil they use is Panpuri massage oil. My masseur is dark-skin manly muscular, tall and handsome. He apparently has been featured in fitness magazine as their model. Despite that, his massage skills is definitely above average, and it is clear that he has received some formal training. I believe i received at least 90 min of great massages before he noticed that i wanted more than just massage. He asked if i wanted HJ or B2B, and mentioned that he dont do sex as he is straight. I asked how much for those two services and decided to take B2B. How can i resist that muscular perfect body gliding against mine. After the deed is finished, we got to talk a bit and i told him i first saw his ads in Aurora. He said he prefer this new place as Aurora is mostly focus on sex as most "masseur" there cant really massage. Prestige line up on the other hand have guys who can actually massage. At least thats what he told me. Ive yet to try any other guys though. Overall, I am very satisfied with my massage and after. Hopefully he will be open to do more in the future hehe. But he is one of those rare guys that i dont mind to have him just for hand holding session.

I was lonely during my first few visits many years ago because I only interacted with the guys in bars and massage shops. But after I met some of forum members here, I have not been lonely. I meet forum members and we go for dinner and bar visits while exchanging latest news.

Small dicks are an advantage when you're top. You won't get bottom boys turn you down with "You too big, cannot!". Until... you meet a well-practised bottom who is loose and roomy down there, in which case you don't feel a thing, and the boy asks, "You enter inside already or not?". Whereupon it shrinks to nothingness.

Certainly agree with your conclusions. Although the boys can't control how many westerners decide to visit their bar, they can improve their odds of being offed. One, the easiest and most important is obviously smile.--and keep smiling. If they don't get that down, they've halved their chances from the start. Two, acquire as much English as they can because it's the most common denominator to induce conversation and sustain the customer's interest. Three, be open to suggestions such as, "would you like to get something to eat?" Getting to know the customer in a social setting is a great ice breaker that will very likely extend to how things go in the room. Four, look for opportunities to show affection. Simple touching--accompanied by a smile--will not be lost on customer's overall satisfaction. Five, don't rush. Don't be too eager to return to the bar. Even if you don't want LT, be leisurely in your departure. Assure the customer you look forward to seeing him again. Granted, none of the above will initially bring more westerners into the bar but it will encourage those who do to return. And few things are more advantages to the boys than repeat business. Perhaps some entrepreneurial veteran of the bars will see an opportunity to become a bar boy coach, sharing what he has learned in his days on the stage with the newbies.

High rise in place of our beloved and sadly demise soi Twilight is growing very fast and onlt trace soi was there is our memories. As expected bar recently opened across form world famous Foodland Patpong, well known for never having any customers closed and unit sits in darkness again. Yesterday was Saturday, usually busiest day in bars but at 10 pm Hot Male gogo had no customers. Few come later but we are talking few. What is surprising dozen or so boys there were very decent looking, attractively dressed in uniform red track pants and equally uniform shirts removed. At first glance I could off any one of them so bars and boys must have it hard. I did not stay for the show so no idea if they had any. Drink and off fee 500, boys drink 400. From tips dispensed yesterday and today it looks that boy's expectancies are accordingly lowered, it was, long since I got a kiss planted on me just for tipping nothing outlandish.

I woke up feeling surprisingly energized after my solitary sleep. Last night’s kerfuffle at Fresh Boys wasn’t ideal, but the upside is that today, I’ve got a full tank of energy to make up for lost time. After brunch, I caught the free hotel shuttle to Saladaeng and got off at Siam station for a leisurely stroll and some visual treats. When I started to feel tired, I ducked into a random coffee shop and browsed through options in Saphan Kwai. 15M’s daily LINE messages and gallery have been particularly tempting lately, so I made an inquiry and eventually chose JJ. His photos are obviously touched up, but I’m hoping for better luck in person. I took the BTS towards Saphan Kwai, exited at number 3, and found the shop just a quick two-minute walk away. As I entered, I noticed several pairs of shoes by the stairwell, so I slipped off mine and headed upstairs. Even from afar, I could spot JJ, and to my satisfaction, his real-life appearance actually outshined his edited photos. After paying at the counter, JJ and I headed off to our temporary love nest. We engaged in the usual small talk—turns out he's from Myanmar. Based on my last few trips, it seems Burmese guys really do it for me. It makes me wonder: if Myanmar’s security situation improved, would it be worth a visit? Or have all the handsome guys already migrated to Thailand? JJ’s massage skills were average, but he was clearly putting in the effort. Thankfully, he switched things up pretty quickly, as the massage wasn’t adding much value. Once things got a bit more exciting, JJ really came into his own. As a "straight" top, he clearly knew what he was doing—unlike others who just go through the motions, often leading to discomfort or no pleasure at all. He offered to climax for an extra 1000, but I politely declined. We continued, taking turns pleasuring each other. At one point, he muttered something in panic, and I realized he couldn’t control himself and started cumming. We both laughed it off, and I threw in a little extra on top of his mandatory tip. That moment replayed in my head on the train ride back to the hotel, leaving me feeling somewhat triumphant and amused. Later that evening, my wanderings led me to Banana Bar. By the time I arrived, the show was already in full swing and the boys are somewhere unseen, so I asked the mamasan if Nine was available (another handsome Burmese guy I offed on my last trip—he’s the one with the gun tattoo on his torso). A few minutes later, Nine appeared, and we exchanged the usual pleasantries while watching the performance. This is where Banana Bar excels—the show is so captivating, though it does tend to overshadow the boys. Nine and I cuddled up while watching, with him sneaking in quick pecks now and then. He was clearly trying to secure an off and I let him play his game, knowing full well I’d be taking him with me anyway. After a while, he asked if I wanted him to come along with me. When I asked for what, he flashed a mischievous smile and said, “for happy happy.” Something about that sexy grin made me realize the show was no longer my main focus, and soon enough, Nine and I were heading back to my hotel.

Heh, I'm from Brazil! And I agree with most of your points too (except the food, I much prefer brazilian food over thai, but maybe I'm a little biased 😉). We don't really have a tourism focus like Thailand, so I suppose most of these complains are expected (even for locals!). We also don't have much of a massage culture hahaha, some boys offer it but I never tried it out, it's probably pretty shit. I suppose I just enjoy the latino style more, there's just more "fire" to it, I don't know. We're also pretty open as a whole and wilder, come out with the weirdest shit and we'll be excited to try it out, while thais shudder at handcuffs 😜 . Also, I don't know if we're necessarily better at holding our alcohol, but we're definitely experts at hiding we're drunk as fuck😂 I think that's a good point, my ingenuity definitely played against me here. But my main point is still that I just didn't found Bangkok a great city, it's not that it's boring per se, it's just really ordinary. It doesn't feels exotic, it doesn't feels like a vacation, it just feels like I'm back home but with Thai writing and rats. And I just really disagree with Bangkok being the gay capital, the gay life is pretty ordinary, hell, the ones working at gay bars are mostly straight ffs hahaha. The gay venues in Sao Paulo are much better in almost every aspect. I'm not new to Thai culture either, I have tons of Thai friends and classmates, I suppose I just expected that behind closed doors it would be a little different. And I think I just didn't enjoyed much the bar thing as a whole, I just wanna have a good time and be done, but the whole bar thing feels like such a chore... I think I'm just not the target audience Hahahaha I was actually thinking if this would be asked! The Chinese scene definitely isn't as open as Bangkok's, but it's suuuuper huge! But if you're not a mandarin speaker, I think it would be quite hard to break into. You can find actually quite a huge chunk of it on Twitter, but you will eventually head down to WeChat. Since it's all underground, your best bet is always going to be knowing local people at the specific cities you want to go to. For big cities (most capitals) you can download Blued (the chinese version! the one on the appstore is international) and there will be tons of MBs already, ask them out or befriend other Chinese and ask for tips of where to go or to hook you up into the wechat groups. For Twitter, you can start following one chinese porn account and follow their followers, the people that comment etc and just build up a lil base for the algorithm to recommend you more stuff. This is where the mandarin knowledge kicks in, because people will use slangs that a translator won't understand, so you need to know them beforehand. The most obvious one is if they have 约/可约 in their bio, it means they're avaliable for hookups, they'll usually say SPA or 按摩 (massage) too. Other keywords can be 可线下，门槛 etc. If you can access 抖音 (chinese version of tiktok), a very large number of "influencers" are MBs too, most hot boys posting sexy videos under 30k followers with a wechat attached can probably be booked (look at the comments too, people usually say if they ever did any porno ;p) But Chinese MBs aren't really looking for hookups. They're pretty expensive for short time sex, starting at 2000rmb at the low end and 7000+ at the high end, since they get most of their money out of sugar daddying, not really the prostitution itself. So they're looking for a "sponsor" or a bf, servicing you might be a low priority, and they might ask for lots of stuff. But I can make a whole post about it, there's too much to write in just an unrelated comment! hahaha

So...went to 1097 tonight, sat at a table with locals and was sort of comical how I knew more about Brasil saunas than they did, lol. The advice I took from them though was the going rates here is 70-100 MAX I ended up wanting to go with 4 guys, not all at once but was a very difficult decision between which one. As I'm not a very shy guy , I enlisted the guidance of the bartenders...was a good choice, and so much fun. I'm going to Rio Monday and he said he is too, but on the bus. We have plans do do a 3-way tomorrow with the 3rd to be decided still.....my 1st time here has been totally worth it!

I woke up to find 7’s arm and leg wrapped around me like a human pretzel, and I couldn’t help but smirk at my incredible luck from the night before. The warmth of his body and the comfort of the cuddle were tempting me to stay in bed all day. But alas, the real world called—I needed caffeine, and a quick check of work emails to ensure nothing urgent was demanding my attention. Thankfully, it seemed to be a slow workday, leaving me ample room to procrastinate and savour the morning. With my tasks temporarily sidelined, I turned my attention back to the gorgeous specimen sprawled out next to me. His cute face and tousled hair were just too adorable to ignore, so I indulged in a few moments of quiet admiration. My gaze must have been borderline obsessive because he eventually stirred, opened his eyes, and flashed me a smile. He motioned for me to come back to bed—a request so obvious, it was practically a silly not to comply. We dozed off for another blissful hour, until the sound of him rummaging in the bathroom brought me back to reality. After sorting ourselves out, we headed downstairs for breakfast. Similyto my previous time with T, I slipped into my role as unofficial photographer, snapping a picture of him with his buffet selections, which were, by the way, quite impressive. Back in the room, we settled into a relaxed morning, both of us engrossed in our own devices. I had my head comfortably resting on his lap. Around 11, he mentioned he needed to get going and asked what my plans were for the day. When I mentioned a trip to Platinum Mall, he asked if he could tag along. At first, I hesitated, thinking of the inevitable shopping spree, but then I figured—why not? A little extra retail therapy never hurt anyone, especially with charming company. After snagging two shirts for 150 baht each (it was a surprise on my part), it was time for our goodbyes. He asked me to send him a message later, and with that, we parted ways. Returning to my hotel, I realised I wasn't in the mood for my usual afternoon or early evening massage escapade. Honestly, two rounds with 7 had left me physically drained, in the best and most exhausting way possible. The guy could also kiss like it was an Olympic sport, and I was definitely still feeling the aftershocks. Instead of diving into another naughty massage session, I decided to change things up and headed over to Prime Massage. Perhaps it was the low season or just plain good luck, but I only had to wait 10 minutes for my 1.5-hour appointment. The massage was just what I needed—I walked out feeling like a new person, rejuvenated and ready to take on the night. I spent a few minutes at Starbucks, enjoying the people-watching scene while mentally mapping out my evening plans. When the time was ripe, I found myself heading towards Fresh Boys, ready to see what the night had in store. The place was packed to the rafters—so crowded that customers were practically sitting next to each other, leaving little to no room for the guys to join us from the stage. Clearly, this level of business amidst the low season got something to do with the sleaze and raunchiness of their show both in amount and intensity. Compared to other venues like Moonlight, which was more on the vanilla side (not that there’s anything wrong with that!), Fresh Boys didn’t hold back. When the show ended, the crowd thinned out, leaving a more manageable number of us behind. I quickly caught the eye of a cute guy and motioned for him to sit next to me. We started chatting, building that all-important rapport, and just when things were getting interesting and building towards an off, one of the mamasans decided to butt in. He tried to fast-track the negotiation, throwing out prices for a short time without even letting us finish our conversation. Must be my mistake that I mentioned I'm looking for long time as the mamasan suddenly huffed and puffed and kept pushing, insisting that nobody does long time anymore. My guy looked annoyed, and so was I, so I decided to pull the plug on the whole thing. I handed my guy a pink bill as a gesture of goodwill and said I wasn’t interested after all. Then, in a move that left me almost speechless, the mamasan had the audacity to stick out his hand and ask for a "tip for mama". I stared at him in disbelief before flatly saying, “No,” and turned back to my drink. After the mamasan finally left, the guy apologised, calling him crazy. I felt for him, so I handed him another pink bill, settled my tab, and made my exit. Not wanting to let this little fiasco ruin my night, I sent a message to my African guy as I walked back to the hotel. Luck was on my side—he was available, and we agreed to meet up. So, in the end, it wasn’t a wasted night at all!

Last night visit in Dreamboys and Moonlight. Two rotations of boys, total probably around 40 of them. Quality much improved from last visit of mine. Music way too loud. I spotted 4 who made my heart rate speed up a bit, numbers 5, 27, 77 and 109 and could do with another fifteen - twenty if in need. In 1 hour we were there 5 and 27 were sitting with customers, 109 gone and only 77 still on the stage. Audience about half full which considering bar size is quite OK for Monday. Dreamboys, rose in my eyes after last night visit as it was never really my favotite. Drink 500 Then in the drizzle ( at this time of year never leave your room without umbrella even if sky is blue at the moment) we went to Moonlight. Model show in progress, Mark, Peach, Babe, Nut, York, Tum and Nest present. It was late so after show singing started with remaining floor boys, in the background. My heart pumed at the sight of 9, 10, 19, and a 30. I know member who offed 10 and was, very happy and another who offed 30 two times and was even happier. Mamasan who must know what I like from gossip from boys underscored 30 is fine with LT. Despite of being after midnight bar half full with few bottles opened and few lavish spenders. Each floor boy got 100 baht each and all models, between 1 and 7, yes, seven in Nest case those 1000 baht garlands. So you don't need many people to do good business it seems. So Moonlight continues to be my favorite bar in the area. By quite a distance. Boys in long pants and wife eaters, models the same but their shirt has their name. Drink 500, boys drink 450, off fee 500. Models off fee I assume still 1000.

After a leisurely breakfast, I found myself in the mood for some shopping. Two tempting options quickly came to mind: 1. Chatuchak Weekend Market with a side trip to a Saphan Kwai massage shop. 2. Platinum Mall with a pitstop at Arena Massage on the way back. Just the memory of navigating Chatuchak's maze-like alleys in sweltering heat was enough to steer me towards the air-conditioned comfort of Platinum Mall. The massage guys at Saphan Kwai could wait. As I stepped out of the hotel, the cute doorman greeted me with his big smile. I pointed to the shuttle and asked when it was leaving. "Now, I can take you," he replied. I giggled internally and reminded myself to behave—this hotel is quickly becoming a favorite, and I don’t want to risk getting banned! I may have mentioned this before—while hardcore bargain hunters might argue that Pratunam Market across the road is the real deal, I prefer to pay a bit more for the convenience of air-conditioning and the peace of mind that I won’t be run over by vehicles, food carts, or the bustling crowds. One perk of Pratunam Market, though, is the people-watching—especially the shirtless local guys marching back and forth, carrying goods three times their size. After a quick shopping spree, I took a taxi to Silom Plaza. The traffic was surprisingly cooperative, but that meant I arrived at Arena Massage way too early, with slim pickings in the masseur department. I asked the Papasan for advice, and he suggested coming back around 4 PM. So, I strolled around Maha Nakhon in search of a quick afternoon bite. When I returned, the selection had dramatically improved, leaving me torn between three appealing options! The Papasan did his best to upsell me to a deluxe room, highlighting perks like free coffee and snacks for just 300 baht more. I declined, preferring to give that extra baht to the masseur as a reward for good service. Besides, the irony of a "deluxe" room in a building that wouldn't pass a building code inspection back home wasn’t lost on me. After making my choice, the masseur, Pon, graciously offered to carry my shopping bags and escorted me upstairs. Pon introduced himself, directed me to the shower, and said he'd return in a few minutes. I hinted that I’d rather wait for him, and he got the message—we ended up showering together both before and after the massage. I can't help but chuckle every time I see those ketchup bottle dispensers being used for body wash and shampoo. It's funny yet clever. Oh, and the room I was in had a Hello Kitty wall clock—not exactly what you want to be staring while getting serviced. As for the massage itself, it wasn't anything to write home about, but the cheeky extras were quite remarkable. Before leaving, I scanned the reception area one last time and confirmed—the roster had indeed improved significantly! I stepped out of Arena quite satisfied, happily walking back to the hotel while planning my next visit to Good Boys tonight, with hopes of meeting #7 or #42.

Final day - After breakfast, we returned the bike and walk back to our hotel to check out. We took bolt to the airport and arrived at DMK around 3.30 pm. Take a taxi to Hilton Sukhumvit for our last night of the trip. For the price i paid, its definitely a splurge but u get what u paid for. Nice location, close to bts phrom pong, great service, wonderful selection at their breakfast buffet. While location is further away from action, it is close to jey spa, and taxi ride to and from silom is still cheap. Since my guy has never been to bangkok before, I treat him a visit to Mahanakhon. Bought the ticket online while waiting for our flight at the airport, and given a time slot 5pm for the sunset. We stay there until its a bit dark before making our way to icon siam for dinner at their street food place ground floor. Afterward, we went back to our hotel to put our stuff and clean up before heading out for bar visit. While at our hotel, my jupiter guy message me asking about my phuket trip. I told him it was great and im already in bkk. He asked if we can meet tonight. I told him a friend is sleeping with me tonight but Ill go to his bar tonight as it is my last night tonight. Anyway his message makes me think of a possibility of 3some. Its not what i prefer so it is more of me trying to see if my guy is open to it, without ever trying to make it happen. I first asked my guy if he had done 3some before. And he said yes, with some of his fellow MB, servicing one client. I asked further if he will be ok if we take a guy for 3some tonight, and he said he is open but i notice some uneasiness in his voice. I try to find out and he finally said he will only service me and wont do anything with the other guy. I think he is the shy type and prefer 1 on 1 session but willing to do 3some only if the client wants, but he wont do anything else with the other guy. Anyway, im my mind, Im not going to pursue this anyway, just thought its the perfect time to pre-emp him on this possibility especially if my jupiter guy has no off tonight. At least i know his boundary out of this conversation. We went to the bar and arrived slightly closer to 11pm, and the show was already on going. We were seated at the bar stool seats with good view of the stage. And there i saw my jupiter guy, already sitting with customer in the front seat to the left of the stage. I told my guy who is my jupiter guy and he agreed that he is good looking. We stay until the show ended, and i saw the customer is offing my jupiter guy. I feel a bit of relief, no need to worry about 3some anymore hehe. I managed to says hi to my Jupiter guy discreetly just before he went out and slip him a tip. We then return to our hotel for one last night before heading back home. On our last day, managed to get late check out 1pm FOC, and we then head to Prime for our last leg, neck and shoulder massage before heading to airport for our departure.

Thought I'd share my experience at Lagoa here instead of starting a new thread. I was there past 2 nights, just to check the place out. They had a karaoke session last night, and a drag show the night before with hunky strippers before and after that. The bar area was crowded on both nights I was there (Sat and Sun nights) Personally, I'd say most (if not all) the GPs there are hot! GPs ranging from bodybuilders to muscle hunks to toned, next door type. Clients seem to be mostly middle aged/older gentlemen, with a few exceptions. I only had a session with one of the GPs there: tall, muscular (Russian looking?) guy. Quoted 200 with gozar, which is pretty low based on what I understand from the posts here. The session was alright, he was straight, so some stuff were off limits (which I don't mind) but he gave me a rub down, kissing, some foreplay and let me play with his body. We both came, and showered together. I don't speak Portugese, and he doesn't speak English but we somehow made decent attempt at a conversation before and after the session. All in all, the place is amazing, with lots of options, especially for those who are particularly into hunks and toned guys.

When I was single, I found the afternoons in Pattaya difficult to fill. Jomtien beach was fine for a couple of hours but no longer than that for me, and the go go didn't start until 2100. There were only two gay massage places, both far away from Boyztown but with only a handful of masseurs available; and no apps in those far-off days, obviously. Even TV was limited, very limited in the sort of hotels I could afford. No mobiles. Nor laptops. Royal Garden was newly-open (two floors of it) and there was some cruising there but I was much too shy; I needed gogo bars. I suppose I was lonely. The only people I knew in Pattaya were "short-time" friends. And of course, that particular tribe only comes out to play after dusk. This was the time I stopped being lonely. So , all I can say now to younger guys is "count your blessings". The internet, the numerous a/c-ed malls. Even TV. Hotels that are probably more comfortable than they were thirty years ago in my price range. Massage guys and willing visitors to hotel rooms are available twenty-four hours a day. No time to be lonely!

After breakfast, i asked counter if i can checkout a bit late as my flight to phuket is at 4.30pm and they told me i can check out at 1 pm. Had a bit of rest after packing and head to DMK after checking out. My companion will be joining me at DMK, taking a flight earlier from Indonesia. When he arrived, he message me and I told him i will arrive at the airport soon. Thanks to free wifi at the airport, its not hard for me to find him. We then go for lunch together at the airport food court upstair, then check in for our flight. I will be very brief on my report for phuket since we mostly do touristy stuff. My guy is a regular guy ive met many times before back home. He will come 1-2 weeks at a time and ive always had him for overnight. This trip will be our 4th trip together. First two trip was in indonesia, and one trip was within Malaysia. He has a PT gigs back home so it will take some arrangement on his side before he could join me. Our Phuket trip will be 4 nights, and we stay at Bang Tao area, which is surprisingly very pleasant area. Our hotel is in the laguna area, and have free shuttle to the mall and beach. First day - Not much activity, stocked up in 7/11 and just spend the night at the hotel, sort of reunion. We talked a bit on what to do tomorrow and he also went to check out the gym. 2nd day - before breakfast, i went to the concierge to see what trips/sightseeing they have. Decided to take their half day city tour that start in the afternoon and ends with visit to the Sunday night market in the Old town phuket. Visited the Wat Chalong, Big Buddha, Khao Rang Hill View Point, Jui Tui Shrine and lastly the Old town phuket for the Sunday market. Overall, its a good introductory half day trip covering most of the tourist spots and no unwanted visit to farm, tiger/elephant place, nor visit to specialty shops. U can get a great view of the island on top of Big Buddha, but our most memorable place was at Khao Rang hill, where there was a troop of monkeys claim residency there. Towards the end of our visit, one of the monkey were trying to grab the skirt of one of the girl in our group. Luckily, she didnt panic and the monkey did let go. There is also a Harry Potter themed Cafe near the sunday market. For dinner, we just order grab for dinner. 3rd day - had our breakfast and get ready for our island tour today. As per recommended by the tour lady, we took the bigger catamaran boat, and our tour will be focusing on phi phi island and surrounding, with lunch buffet there. First stop is Bamboo island where we had time to swim on a very pristine beach. It wasnt too crowded too, so it was very pleasant to swim especially with my hunk on my side. After lunch at phi phi island, we head to the Pileh Lagoon for long tail boat tour around the towering limestone cliffs, and stop by the side for snorkeling, paddle boat or canoeing. Afterward, we head to the famous Maya Bay. Definitely one of the most beautiful beach, but overcrowded with tourists. No swimming allowed, and all boats now stays on the otherside of the bays. On our way back, we stopped at Maiton island, nearer to main phuket island for sunset and bbq dinner. Overall, the tour is definitely the highlight of my phuket trip.

I had a guy I wanted to see from Ganymede Spa and thought he was stunning so I made a booking. I normally don't go to a spa where they have no VIP room (shower inside) but I wanted to see this lad and I did. First, it was really near Central World and Siam Paragon. It would be a very short taxi ride away. If you drive (I did) the parking is 200 baht unless you get a stamp from the spa and then it is 80 baht. The boy I wanted see was excellent. But, he said he only stays here a short time and goes back home so if you want him, you may want to do so in the next month or two (but, you never know if that is true). He was truly one of the best I have had in Bangkok. He was sexy, sweet, good English, truly versatile and very passionate. He is in his late 20's and his body is rock hard and his legs were like solid big muscle. But, he was not a body builder, just very in shape. The rooms are clean and the bathrooms are clean. They have a good array of guys to select from. I enjoyed the visit and this lad was excellent. https://x.com/GanymedeSpa 69/37 phatumwan resort Phaya Thai Rd, Sub-district Phaya Thai, Bangkok 10400

Since I've off T few times before, we barely talked about the off. No discussion of LT or ST nor compensation. I did jokingly asked if he will stay with me until morning and he says up to you, if u want me to stay until morning, i will. He did went out to 7-11 after i said i wanted him LT, saying he is hungry. I already asked him if he was hungry right after we leave the bar but he said it can wait. Anyway, he left after breakfast. Ive been chatting and exchanging stories with my friend who stays at the hostel and having fun. Took a nap before heading out for lunch. My friend has been shopping around siam and centralworld, so i went there to meet him and have lunch there, at one of the burger place on 5th floor. After lunch, we went back to our respective accomodation before heading out for a visit to yunomori onsen, sathorn. We arrived circa 5.30pm, giving us quite a good time to relax and explore before dinner. Great onsen, 7 pools with various degree of temperature, from the chilling 16°C to scorching 43°C. 2 of the pools are for cool dips, while the other 5 are the hot springs pools with variety of content as well as temperature. One is full of tiny bubbles, another has specific minerals added, with two of the pools are sort of outside with partially exposed roof. Crowd is mixed, although if i were to trust my gaydar, Id say 80% are gays. Throughout our stay, there are few instances of people having discreet fun but overall, if you are not looking for those, u wont see them. People are generally cautious as it is not allowed. 90% are not wearing any underwears/shorts, but majority covers their private with the small towels provided. I do find one guy who has really great body with very handsome look. My gaydar says he is straight but that only adds to his hotness for me lol unfortunately, he is one of the 10% that actually wear the shorts, which u can request from the counter when you register. We went there without any bookings, although if you wanted to have their massage, a booking might be necessary. They provided a locker, two towels, one small and one big, a yukata to wear when you are exploring outside the onsen area. Overall, it is a nice area to rest and recharge while having eye candy walking around, but if you intention is for fun, maybe this isnt the place. The entry fee is 550 baht. We stay there until 7.30pm before heading out and go for dinner in silom. After dinner in Beirut, i suggested for us to go to soi 4 beer bar to kill time before heading to bar for the show. We ended up sitting at circus bar. While we were there, i noticed the poster on VIP room with host boys on Level 3. If anyone had experience using this room, I would love to hear the experience. Near to 10pm, the circus bar also have some coyote shows, with some ladyboy number as well as the coyote dancing by the host boys. 2 of them are very muscular and can fit right in jupiter or moonlight model, and one can definitely be in the one (ex-tawan). Crowd wise, not as packed as during peak season but it is still lively, while there are some empty seats outside, inside circus seems packed. On the other side, quite a good crowd as well. And this is on a Wednesday night. Tonight, my friend want to visit bars that has the most good looking and muscular manly guys, so its a no brainer that bar will be Jupiter. We enter jupiter around 10.15pm. Waiter seated us at one of the stools at the back. Not the best seat but not the worst. Ordered our drink and their singer, if i recall correctly, poppy, was singing tonight. Not long after, mamasan who knew me saw me and my friend, and proceed to offer us the vip seats up, the very front seat near the left of the stage. Without wasting my time, i asked mamasan if my guy is available and he went to call him for me. Once he appear, all smiles, ordered his drink and we continue to enjoy the singing. I asked if he will go with me tonight and he said yes. At some point, he said he need to go for catwalk, which means the show is about to start. He participated in the same number as before. Although this time, i saw the two ladies sitting in front of us are flirting with him. At this point, i havent pay off fee yet. As soon as mamasan asked me, i told him im offing my guy. We stay throughout the show since it is my friend first time in jupiter. We thoroughly enjoyed gossiping about the guys that my friend likes. In the end, we left after the show, and we say goodbye at the mouht of soi 4. Replenish some supplies in 7e across the road and off we go to our hotel to discuss about skin care and what not. Even better service deliver the second time and he even hinted that he is available for other things like travelling to other places. I wouldve jump on the opportunity had i not already have someone planned already for my phuket trip. Maybe next trip.

I managed a side trip to BCN last month and can summarize as: Seems like old times. Packed with about as many workers and clients (20+ each) from 3 pm - 8 pm on a Friday and Saturday night. Guys were not exodusing yet at that time. Many familiar faces, many new talent, 50EUR.

Any newbie to Thailand should be aware that hiv is still a serious issue and that, despite improved medication resulting in it not being a death sentence, victims can be assured of a lifetime of tablets and monthly check-ups. And fear. Add to this the social stigma, particularly in the provinces. You should assume that any commercial or "just for fun" partner is hiv+ and act accordingly. A young guy like the poster has decades of fun (and even perhaps a rewarding relationship) ahead of him; a bad decision, fuelled by drink drugs or desire, can change all that. So he should bring his own condoms and lube and not have unprotected sex, including oral. That issue has been thoroughly discussed on this forum so he should check the archives. And, finally, ensure that he is not unwittingly infecting his partners.

Japan is allowing six years to roll out this requirement. Thailand is allowing ten months. What could possibly go wrong?

I actually understand where you're coming from. Having myself spent a lot of time travelling around Asian cities, including Chinese ones, whatever initial charm there is in one's eyes wears off quickly, and all one is left with is seeing everything that is wrong, broken, inefficient, superstitious and plain illogical. Massive urban sprawl, congestion, poverty and mendicancy have a lot to do with it too. If there's anything that makes me go wow nowadays, it is the super-modern technology that the top-tier cities of Asia have here and there. China's top-tier cities are in this league. And China's Gaotie (the superfast trains). Previous generations of White people (from Europe and North America) saw Asia through the lens of the exotic. Half-naked children, superstitious rituals, unfit-for-habitation cottages, outdoor baths, meals cooked beside the toilet, and bone-shaking transport vehicles were seen as charming instead of depressing. That generation is largely gone, but perhaps a tinge of that perspective lingers here in some posts which might have led to skewed expectations on your part. As a Brazilian, you're also further removed from the older White perspective. (I recently met a French tour group that returned from Senegal, and they ooh'd and ahhh'd over the photos and videos they had of precisely all that: half-naked children, superstitious rituals, unfit-for-habitation cottages, outdoor baths, meals cooked beside the toilet, and bone-shaking transport vehicles. They had a wonderful holiday, they said. I secretly suspected that "wonderful" meant it reinforced their sense of Western superiority. If I had dared ask them about Senegalese mosquitoes, they might well have had nothing but praise. It's refreshing too to read from what you said about the younger generation: Sometimes, I don't know which is worse - the mostly-gone older generation with their skewed exoticised perspective, or the louder, younger one with no self-awareness at all!

Saturday night visit in both bars in soi 4. Banana first, at 9 pm quite empty but 4 quite attractive boys already on the stage. As show time approached bar filled up to perhaps half capacity. Everybody, boys, staff and performers very friendly. Few participants in big c****k show and all had something to show indeed. Price of drink depends if it's, alcoholic ( 380, boy's 400) or non accoholic at 300 Lively and fun atmosphere but we decided to check Jupiter as well. Quite a contrast with boys sober look. Bar was full though so we were seated upstairs, not a bad place. Show becomes more progressive than before and in 3 numbers rigid goodies were presented in full glory. I m under impression that in comparison to May quality of boys deteriorated. I used to say I can off everybody, now I'd take every second at the most . Drinks 500

I went to Otot-otot sauna tonight. The first time I went - before Covid- I didn't know where it was so caught a taxi. Unfortunately, it was a Saturday evening and we got caught in rush-hour. It took over an hour to get there. Then I realised it's a 8 minute monorail trip from where I am, plus a 10 minute walk from Chow Kit station. (Actually, it only took me 5 minutes because I ran all the way! Lol) It gets busy around 7:30 but today was a public holiday so I got there before 7, thinking it would start early. I noticed quite a few guys going up the stairs. The guy at reception was very friendly and wavered the regustration fee. I was then led to the lockers where I got undressed, wrapped a towel around my waist and rushed straight into the darkroom maze. It's totally dark and I folliwed the wall inside, brushing up against lots of guys and having a grope. There was a bit of light near the entry and exit so I did get to see a bit of what was going on. There were lots of guys, but they were mainly just leaning up against the wall and not really getting involved. I managed one good groping session, but a lot of time was wasted waiting for the guys to loosen up. Last time I was there the action was full on, including bare backing on the mattresses inside the dark room and lots of guys getting blow jobs. Have they all suddenly become shy? But everything comes to those who wait. I finally found a guy who was interested and we got up on one of the raised beds. He had a beautiful, thick cock. I was dying to give him a blow job, but I never do that in saunas. After fooling around for a while he asked me to go to the toilet with him. "I want to fuck you", he said. I told him we could do it on the bed so he slipped on a condom, lubed me up and slipped it in. He was quite rough and after a while I had to ask him to stop because it was getting a bit painful. I spent a lot of time waiting for the next guy, still wondering why they weren't all getting down to business. Then a guy went down on me as I lay on my back on the bed He was so skilful that I ended up cumming rather quickly. With that I got up and left. I was pleased to see that the sauna is very clean. Two staff members came into the darkroom collecting up used condoms. I have a feeling I may be going back tomorrow! .

I caught a train from JB to KL and stayed two nights. I visited Petronas Tower, Batu Caves, a couple of shopping malls and had really nice food. The amount of attention I got on Grindr was insane, so I had to make a decision to go offline while I did the regular tourist activities. I think I might have missed some opportunities here because, when I was finally ready to cast my net, I think Grindr’s algorithm had decided I was no longer fresh meat and the interest from the local talent had waned. I had two hook-ups of the quickie variety with late 20s/early 30s guys. Both times enjoyable, and no issues meeting them in the lobby and bringing them to my room. I stayed in the AnCasa hotel near Chinatown. I didn’t manage to get train tickets for the next leg of my journey to Georgetown/Penang, so I had to take a bus The curtains on the bus effectively blocked light and heat from the sun, but also any chance of taking in the scenery, so it was a very long and very dull Bus ride from KL to Georgetown. Georgetown was not dull. I will make a post of my 4 nights there in a few days.

Forum high deportation consisting other member and myself performed undercover inspection disguised as an ordinary visit yesterday, on Sunday. Usually not busiest day in bars, but at 10pm bar was full and we were treated with last remaining seats in far corner by the bar. No boys on the phones, all either on the stage or sitting and drinking with the customers. No chance of being neglected as immediately I was accompanied by a few asking for drinks or/and tips and mentioning off. As for boy types usual mix of big bodies, some in shape, some were in shape during rein of previous, king. But not doubt all have their admirers, there were even two male/ female couples in the audience. New addition noticed was twinky twink of hip bones protuding type, look of bordering on malnutrition, who aparently started only recently and was offed subsequently to an applause of whole congregation. Nice gesture of his colleagues. So much for those who don't like big boys there. Off fee and drinks 500, boy drink 400. I must confirm reported finding with mamasan involved in negotiating tip without an invitation, as long as my humble nobody is concerned, that is big time over stretch. Neither of us, your deputies, is is novice customer there. Show more or less similar to what we are accustomed, ladyboy number just one song, candle, wax whipping, big cock, all shows were there. J O consisted one competitor but he shoot far, reaching chair. In short, fun is still there but it would be nice to see some new bodies as it, s bit weird to still see in business guy I offed in May of 2015.

4th day - I had a brilliant idea that on our last full day in phuket, i suggested that we rent a motorbike, and have a leisurely trip of our own, visiting several beaches. So after breakfast, we head down the mall area, called boat avenue, and rent a bike for 1 day, for only 300 baht, with 3000 baht deposit. We visited bang tao beach, surin beach and kamala beach, had a casual stroll at each beaches and had our lunch nearby kamala beach. We then head back to hotel for some rest, before heading out again to view sunset at surin beach. We missed a bit the beginning of the sunset but the view was definitely much better than yesterday sunset view on the boat due to the perfect sunny weather today. After it gets dark, we made our way to Patong. We parked our motorbike at 7-11 near the dolphin roundabout, and have a nice stroll along Patong beach. After few blocks of walking, we walk towards the city and make our way back to our bike to go for dinner at a restaurant we passed by before, a bit uphill with view of patong beach. After dinner, we went to hard rock cafe phuket area to buy some souvenirs. We then parked near paradise complex area, and walk a bit towards the walking streets. It was tuesday night but the walking street is packed with tourists. Several very big bars here with grand decoration. I saw one bar that has muscular russians guys on their rooster, similar to the one in pattaya. We did a tour and after, we went to paradise complex. When we enter the soi, show was on going outside of zag club.They have about 5 coyote dancers on a small raised platform. While they have some muscles, non really my type. We sit down on one of the table outside and ordered our drinks. Half way through the shows, i saw one more coyote dancer going up the small personal platform, replacing his colleague. Then lady boys shows, one after another. While sitting, i saw that the bar on the corner, further inside, has shirtless muscular guys that are more my type. I told my guy i wanted to go there just to have a peek, and the bar name is cruise club. And to my suprise,the muscular shirt guys they have are actually similar guys that i saw in circus soi 4. I guess these guy were invited to be for a special show? There is also another bar called (i) bar that have some guys more on the twink side too, located in between cruise club and zag club. Anyway, i only did a quick peek so i didnt leave my guy alone too long at zag. We stay until the show moves inside, closer to midnight, and unfortunately, shows inside is pretty much similar to the outside show. Only diff now the coyote dancers now goes down the stage and start mingling with customers for drinks and gropings. Too bad non are my type, but cant complaint much, i have a hunk beside me. We decided to call it a day and start heading back.

Yes, I have. I live here. It’s used about 50% of the time when it’s operable, but it’s often not operable — like with the hot water in the showers.

I never feel lonely nor bored on any of my many trips as I always find something to do or see, being that I only travel alone I have always found it easy to do things (and without arguments) and on a quiet day I check out the cinemas and after go for a sex filled couple of hours at a massage shop. I usually like to do day trips out of Bangkok as that helps to pass time, Ayutthaya is a favourite, I can enjoy the ruins all day long if need be and if booked on the right tour the river journey back to Bangkok (with buffet lunch) is quite a good time too.

I am a fan of repeat encounter with known quality, and my second session with jupiter guy is even more rewarding. Usually on first off, i just let things goes with the flow, but on the second, we already learned some things from previous session, so it tends to get better. Of course, the initial awkwardness and shyness is gone too. My jupiter guy left after breakfast and i went back to hotel to continue my sleep. Also chatted my friend before i sleep about today's plan. He will continue his shopping and also told me he got a grindr hookup prior to checking out. Today he is moving to a hostel in silom. His plan is to go to sauna this evening, and mine is another prime massage hehe. Went to prime around 1pm and got a slot immediately. Another 2 hour of great oil massage. Afterward, we met at the new park silom complex to have something to eat. We ate at a japanese donburi stall. We then go downstair for coffee and we make our way, me towards my hotel, and my friend towards sauna mania. Tonight for dinner, i already plan to meet another friend i know from malaysia telegram group, who is now working in bangkok. We agreed to meet at a bbq place in samyan mitrtown mall. We had a blast catching up on bangkok scene as well as about life. We finished close to 10pm and we start making our way to silom. As it turns out, it was raining quite heavily, so we were stucked for a while near silom complex area. Once the rain start to lighten a bit, we decided to give a new bar called Beef a try as it is very conveniently near the mouth of soi 4 and we didnt have to brave the rain too much. The bar has a separate lift that will take u straight to the fourth floor. No entry fee, and drinks are quite reasonable, 140-180 baht. Very nice music, cute bartenders, wearing oversize tee and knee-length short. Several small round table with bar stools, banquette style seats along two sides of the wall with small table to put your drinks. They have a DJ for the music. Since its a weekday, and its raining, we didnt have to queue to go inside. And when we enter, there are already quite a good crowd, though we still manage to get on the banquette seats opposite the entrance. Crowd is mixed of all type. It could be the rain, as most of the reports ive read saying the crowd are usually more beefy/stocky/bear type. But tonight, its the usual type is maybe less than 30% of the crowd. As the night progress, it gets livelier and more packed. It closes at around 2am. From where we sit, we can see the outside and it is still raining every time we check, and the rain doesnt stop until we leave the bar. Initial plan was to enter this bar and wait for the rain to stop before making our way to patpong for bar visit. Since the rain didnt stop at all, we ended up just staying in this bar and enjoy people watching. There are few eye candy around and one guy did flirting with me a bit, until i saw his BF enter the bar and he make a quiet sign to me after lol. He isnt my type though but im flattered still lol. We leave around 1 or so, since we decided not to wait until the bar close as we might need to queue to use the small lift. I went back with a taxi due to the rain. My big lesson here is to always brings umbrella with me. But then again, the whole trip, i only needed an umbrella only on this night. And yes, no off tonight. I needed this rest and get ready for tomorrow's massage session with prestige's masseur that ive been eyeing for a while.

Last night I was accosted by a small, very cute guy on my way to 7/11. He told me he knew me becsuse he's a waiter at Freshboys. He was out of uniform so no, I didn't recognise him. He wanted to come back to my hotel but he was too late - I'd just finished sex. I'm flying home today so I decided to go to Freshboys and off Mr Groper. As soon as I walked in the cute waiter rushed over to greet me. My God, he's gorgeous. I had a quick grope in the shadows - he's quite small down there - and immediately tipped him 100 baht. Sitting in the bar I could have been in Beijing as everyone was Chinese. I somehow felt out of place. Mr Groper sat with me and I bought him a drink. He flashed me his very engaging smile and then put my hand inside his shorts. He got hard very quickly so I decided to off him. I had to wait until he had performed his acts in the show. Before I made the decision I found out what he would and wouldn't do, and made a point of asking him if he would cum. Turns out he could fuck me but he didn't do blow jobs. At least we got that straight before I offed him. Back in the room he took a quick shower and the fun began. I started sucking him, which he really seemed to enjoy. One thing I noticed is that despite being in the big cock show, in the room it was quite a bit smaller. Never mind - no need to fear a painful insertion. He fucked me for a short while and then I chuck wowed him. His cumshot was spectacular! He hit his shoulder, the pillow and saturated the sheets. OMG! This is what I've been waiting for! He then jacked me off but for some reason (too much sex?) I found it hard to cum. But to his credit he just kept on going until I eventually finished. I apologised for taking so long. No problem, he said. Like the other 2 guys I've had from the bars, he was dressed and ready to leave before I'd even gotten out of the shower. At I handed him his reward he have me a cheeky smile and asked for taxi money. I returned the cheeky smile and said, no. He just laughed. The sex could best be described have as adequate. I would have liked him to fuck me more than a few minutes, but I guess you can't have everything. I'll return home now and plan my next trip - back to Bangkok, or maybe to Chiang Mai, Phnom Penh, orJapan. I'm not sure.

I recall my inability to complete the Thailand Pass without the help of a neighbour....yes, I'm that incompetent on these d**n machines. And also that , two days after receiving my "welcome to Thailand" email, the procedure was dropped. Now, I have to face the angst of another fight with my computer or, alternatively, another humiliating "please help the old guy next door" request to my neighbour. No chance of a waiver for those of us of a certain age, I suppose? After all, I've been supporting the Thai economy for twenty five years.

neither did I until I subscribed to the Twitter (X) and LINE Massage Insider forums - several forums run by Thai moderators - all in Thai - where the theme is primarily 100% about massage shops and massage guys throughout Thailand - with the biggest emphasis on Bangkok - of course. By making friends with the local gay Thai guys here from the Dongtan (Jomtien) gay volleyball - where some of them work "freelance" via the Hornet app - an entire new world was opened up to me - as they use a different terminology set to describe: Top -> for them can be Attack, Aggressor Bottom -> for them can be Receiver / Receiving Sex that excludes anal penetration -> Outside -> this one confused me for the longest time as I thought that they were always referring to sex outside - like on the shoreline of the beach after dark. -> they laughed at my naivety - they would tell me - no silly - Outside is sex outside of the anal sphincter So, learning about the local culture and how they express these activities has been an eye opener for me. So, if you do subscribe to any of these Thai forums and use the AI auto translation feature - you will be exposed to these strange terminologies.... enjoy the journey....

You can also add the Senso shop to this list. When you walk in, the manager calls out to the guys in the back to do a line up where you tell the manager which guy(s) you want. When I was there last week, I told the manager that I wanted the 4 hands 90 minute offer and that I will pick the first guy and then that guy should nominate which other guy from the line up that he feels comfortable working with. For the first pick - all eyes and smiles are on you --> for the 2nd pick, I noticed that not all of the eyes were on the 1st guy I chose - so, I sensed that there is definitely some "good" and "less good" chemistry between the guys. This is why for 4 hands massages, I let the first guy choose the 2nd guy to avoid anything strange during our session.

All you can eat, so to speak! Sounds enticing, but the trouble with a buffet if you fill up too quickly!

I see. Of course Al Jazeera and The Times of India is famous for their western propaganda. 🙄

From The Nation The former commissioner-general of the Royal Thai Police, Pol General Somyot Poompanmoung, and former deputy attorney-general Nate Naksuk as well as six others will be indicted in the Central Criminal Court for Corruption and Misconduct Cases on August 29, the Office of the Attorney-General said. In a letter to the National Anti-Corruption Commission, the prosecutors have informed the NACC to bring the eight suspects before the court on August 29. The action against the eight stems from their controversial decision not to prosecute Vorayuth “Boss” Yoovidhya, who was allegedly involved in a fatal car accident that killed a police officer in 2012. The NACC report on February 27 had found grounds to charge them. The case relates to a decision not to prosecute Vorayuth for his alleged involvement in the death of Pol Sen Sgt-Major Wichian Klanprasert in 2012, where evidence regarding the vehicle's speed was allegedly tampered with. Continues at https://www.nationthailand.com/blogs/news/general/40040834

Some afterthoughts - Travelling during low season has its advantages and disadvantages but to me, the positive outweigh the negative by a mile. Yes, its rainy season, some boys might not be around, but so do customers, hence available boys are eager to please. The only time i had to change plan due to rain is during our unplanned extended visit to Beef club. In Phuket, its a good idea to be flexible and choose the day you will do your boat trip wisely. Im lucky enough to have very minor rain during our lunch, but no rain at all the rest of the trip. It was light drizzling during my first full day there, but no umbrella needed and it was raining on my way to airport on our last day in phuket. While in bangkok, low season is quite visible during weekdays, the weekends are still considerably pack. In Phuket however, its crowded with tourists, mainly from western countries. Another plus point, no need to wait/queue or book ahead for popular place like prime massage, beef club or sauna mania. I suppose this also extends to places like DJ station, GOD etc but i havent visited these place to confirm. - Taking another guy from outside thailand for a trip to Thailand has been quite smooth sailing for me. No issue for him to leave Indonesia, transit in Malaysia and entering Thailand. I have prepared him with flight tickets, hotel bookings, as well as some cash for him to show if the immigration ever asked (they never did). There is another reason why i take him for this trip, his birthday is coming up, hence the trip. Although, when he is about to leave thailand, since his flight is to Malaysia, he was asked to show his outgoing flight out of Malaysia during check in. - This trip, Ive met 2 repeat guys (Moonlight J, The one T, from previous trip, 3 new guys (Maha N, Jupiter guy, and Prestige guy) 1 multiple off (Jupiter guy - 2 off) 1 onsen visit (Yunomori), 1 social bar visit (Beef), 4 Prime massages. I havent visited arena, vck, jey spa, good boys and fresh boys this trip.

After my massage session, i texted my friend to reconfirm with him on our dinner plan. Tonight's dinner is with forum member that i met on my second night. We agreed to meet at Silom Complex Laem Chareon for a seafood dinner around 8.30pm. We had nice chat over dinner sharing about our escapade as well as planning for my phuket trip tomorrow. We say our goodbye after dinner. Tonight bar visit will be hotmale. My friend said he would like to go and check out his hostel and sauna mania first and might join me later. I went to hotmale beer bar first since show has not started yet. P saw me and immediately come to take my drink order. I told him to get a drink for himself too. We sit, chat, hugs, chat until its time for me to upstair for the show. I told my friend that im already inside the bar when he messaged me that he is coming to join me. As many have updated recently on hotmale, it remains the only bar that have shows 100% performed by their guys and no lady boy involved. When i was there, several boys are already seated with customers, but the bar is far from full, maybe less than half full. I saw the only twink that ive off before, is back at Hotmale. He was a waiter in Sols when i off him. He was with another customer. Also saw the famous S, and he is also with customer. After a while, i saw S changing to street clothes, offed by that customer. My twink on the other hand have now returned to the stage. We stay until shows ended, and went downstair to say goodbye to P. I didnt off anyone tonight. One, im not horny, especially after my evening massage with mr perfect guy. Second, tomorrow, ill be travelling to phuket with my regular guy, and ill have him for the rest of my trip. We then walked together to several 7-e as my friend is trying to find "promotional" items to collect. I think we go to at least 4 7-e in the area between silom and Chong nongsi lol. We then went back to hotel and i invited my friend for breakfast together at my hotel for tomorrow. He will not join me for phuket, instead he will go back to Kuala Lumpur for few nights before heading back home.

I escaped the debilitating heat of Phnom Penh yesterday and am now back in Bangkok. I went to Fresh Boys for a quick look. My friend - the groper- came outside and we had a bit of fun. He was wearing their special brief underwear - it's lycra, I think - and you can clearly see the outline of some of the guys' cocks when they are on stage. One guy sitting outside was on his phone playing with himself while the show was underway inside, and I thought he had a hard -on. But he's just big, as I witnessed when he appeared on stage. It was the same. Fresh boys was overflowing with customers; they just kept streaming in but somehow they managed to squeeze them in. As usual, most of the customers were Chinese. As I was sitting outside I saw 3 Chinese guys leaving with one boy. Someone is in for a rough time! Mr groper had to leave early last night - his mum came to pick him up to travel to Cambodia to renew his passport - so I left and went to Goodboys. Again, the bar was overflowing. I endured the show, which consisted of a little cock but mostly just fat, ugly overdressed ladyboys pretending to be superstars. I hate it! I was planning to off the super-sucker from the other night but he wasn't there, so I offed the second guy I had on my last night before going to Phnom Penh - the ever so slightly fem guy. We got down to business. I started suckling him but while I was busy he was looking at his phone! I took it from him and put it on the side table. Suddenly he must have become horny because he said he wanted to fuck me. I told him he was too big but he assured me he'd take it slowly. It was quite painful at first but I decided to persevere. Once he got it all in, it was fine. In fact, it was great! He layed down on his back for the finale - I chuck wowed him - and then he finished me off. The only problem was, while he was jacking me off, he was looking at his facebook page! It kind of killed the atmosphere. I got up and quickly rinsed the cum off my body in the shower. By the time I got out of the shower - less than a minute - he was already dressed and ready to leave! I will go back to Goodboys tonight and look for the first guy. I need to experience that blow-job technique again!

My final night at Space bar saw me, yet again, as the only customer. My 3 boys quickly came and joined me for the evening. The conversation soon turned dirty, and amongst other things I discovered that Mr Handsome only jacks off once a week "because it healthy to keep sperm inside body." OK. Thanks for that! He also told me he has a 20cm cock, a fact that was later confirmed by the other boys. OMG! This guy has everything. I then bought a fourth guy a drink. This is the guy who can't keep his hands to himself and is constantly groping everyone - except me, Of course he fits the mold of the guys working there. He's also gorgeous and is a model, and was in the Mr Cambodia competition last year. Mr Handsome number 2 again cuddled up to me and I found my hand spending a lot of time in his sweaty armpit. One of the guys - the singer - started groping me. (At last!! What took you so long!!) Naturally, I returned the favour. He offered to massage me in the hotel for $100 but when I said yes, of course it came to nothing. Just teasing. He told me the guys there do not go off with customers. Customers tend to arrive after 12:30 so it's a good idea to get there well before that. The boys then went back and forth between the 3 tables but I always had 3 sitting with me. As I was about to leave a guy came in from the street and immediately rushed over to give me a hug. "I know you!" he said. OMG! It was my favourite guy, Virat, from my last visit 8 years ago! I went to the bar every night for around 2 weeks and we sat together in a dark corner and just grope each other all night. (Sadly, things have changed). We would stop when we were about to cum, have a drink and then continue.He now has a very nice food cart and drops into the bar every now and then. I bought him a drink and we reminisced about the fun times we had back in the day. Although the hands -on action from the old days had gone, it didn't really matter because I had so much fun over the last 4 nights. For me, it's the only place in town.