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Ok so I’ve been asked to report back on the one if I visit, however I thought I would report on what I did so far, and since I’m now resting after a long day sight seeing i have some time. This will include tourist activities so I’m sorry if that doesn’t interest you but the reports that included those helped me a lot as well. background on me. I am very late 30’s from North America. I have really only travelled in North America (Canada/USA/Mexico) before with Mexico being one of my favourite destinations (maybe now to be superseded by Thailand ) I arrived last Monday, I got to my hotel, Furama Silom. I choose this hotel based on many, many reviews I have read on this forum. I originally booked a different hotel closer to the bars but I realized it didn’t have a pool so I cancelled and book Directly with Furama for a great deal. So far there has been no issues with bringing back guests. I have the lounge access and I was even able to bring my tour guide to refresh after our tour and get some more information about the city before our time was up. Monday night I decided to go for a walk, I walked by the nine boys massage place and they asked if I wanted massage I said sure, so far this was the best room as it had a bed with a head cradle. I prefer this to just a pillow. The massage was not very good though. After we turned over he asked if I wanted happy for 1000 baht, my first night so I agreed, then he asked another 500 to take his clothes off.. I said sure but nothing happened besides hj. I showered alone at the end.. likely won’t revisit. Tuesday early morning I was browsing Grindr and I chatted with a guy who later told me he was a MB this didn’t bother me, I asked for rates and we agreed to massage+fun. He arrived. I had a decent massage and the fun was great. We had a bit of conversation, showered together then he left. I had a tour booked with Mac from siamroads. There has been some controversy on this forum regarding the owner, however Mac has had rave reviews so I didn’t let that stop me booking him. He was a bit difficult to get a hold of because his phone had broke. However we messaged by email. On the morning it downpoured and Mac got stuck but he messaged me to let me know he was running late, which was fine for me as I was still a bit tired, he arrived and we set out on the tour we planned. He showed me how to use skytrain, the boat transit, we visited the reclining Buddha, he has great knowledge on Thai culture and history and of the Buddhist religion. We visited south Bangkok to tour some local markets. He showed me the flower market. We also went for lunch and I ordered a lot, he felt bad at the cost but I told him not to worry it’s my first time and I want to experience some new things. It seems like he wants to minimize cost for his clients which is great. The food was delicious btw. On return he showed me the area around my hotel, where I could eat, and some things to see, then we chatted about when Bangkok become the capital etc. I felt like I learned a lot and would definitely recommend him to anyone in the future. i was tired this day so I went to bed early. next day I decided I wanted to goto thong plaza, as well as platinum mall and the markets down there. However first I thought I would try one of the massage shops at Saphan Kwai. I decided on 15m I messaged them on line and asked for more information on three guys, I chose one and was on my way, I decided to use taxi as I was still only comfortable going short distances with skytrain. I arrived and the guy I chose was waiting, his picture on line was likely from when he was much younger, I paid the fee he showed me to the massage room. Massage was not that great, not sure if I should expert more, the fun after was not great as well. He had difficulty getting up. Then when he did, it was over just as fast, I definitely did not enjoy this experience and after showing left unhappy, I likely will not return. I did some shopping at the two malls I mentioned, it started to rain so I got myself a manicure to wait it out then I headed back to my hotel. Furama is very close to arena massage now I was a bit nervous going here as I didn’t know what to expect with all the guys lining up looking at you expecting you to choose one leaving everyone else disappointed. However I did pick one. I did get upsold for the vip room, I was worried if this place was so old what would I get with a regular room. I liked that the tip is laid out in advance and it seems like everyone knows what they are there for. VIP room had queen sized mattress, water, private shower stall. I only chose 60 minute massage, I felt like the guy did a great job he hit everywhere I was expecting. Had fun after massage, was not rushed and we showered together. Unfortunately I forgot his name. I returned to my hotel to rest. next day I did safari world, I’ve never did anything like this before and just wanted to experience it. I really enjoyed it. I doubt the shows would be approved by peta but I had fun, I also did some of the extras like feeding tigers, hippos and took some pictures with the animals. I got back late I really didn’t want to leave my hotel room. So I hopped on Grindr and hired a guy off there, massage was more mechanical nothing really to it. However he was an expert at the fun part. After we showered together I went to bed exhausted from a long day. next day I did some more sight seeing. I went to centralworld, I walked around the city a bit to see some of the shops and sights. I took the skytrain back and since it was on the way I stopped at arena massage again. This time I decided to go for longer time, 90 minutes, the boy I was with last time was there again and seemed excited to see me, I felt bad cause I wanted to try something new. This was what I was afraid of with these lineups. I choose a guy but then quickly the papasan said nonono he can’t he has booking. I think he should have had him sit out the lineup at the beginning. So once again I choose. A different guy.this guy was very good massage was excellent, since I did 90 minutes I believe he had more time to spend massaging, he was much better than the first guy, we had a lot of fun, his name was Chai and I would recommend him. We talked a little bit after we showered and he told me I should try four hands next time and gave some explicit gestures on what we could do. The thought crossed my mind but on the advise from here have having first guy you pick find the second guy who they can work with.. what if you don’t like second guy.. then have to turn down. next day I hung around the pool a bit. I took water taxi/shuttle to icon Siam. Was only 10 baht. When I got back I decided I would venture out to the patpong night market area and maybe goto one of the bars, I had an idea on what to expect based on this forum but was still nervous. I decided to walk down as google maps said it was only 15 minutes I walked through the night market then the alley with some of the bars, the promoters are trying to get you inside. I did not find them to be aggressive or overbearing a simple no thanks, and they where onto the next guy, I walked the entire alley discovering this alley contained both gay and straight bars, I walked back down not sure where to go however fresh boys show was going to start in 15 minutes at 10:30 so I decided on that, this was Saturday night. They tried to seat me front row in the middle. I asked to sit in the back which wasn’t a problem. I arrived 10;15 pm there was about 7-8 other guys when I got there, however before the show started the room started to fill up. Mostly Chinese, Indian tourists. Only one other white guy besides myself, 2-3 more joins later in the evening, on stage was 15-20 guys wearing no shirts and white fresh boys shorts. When the light hits right you can see their white briefs underneath, they stood on stage changing position every few seconds. They were mostly younger with a couple older guys. When the show started most of the boys left to go outside, some went to the back to get ready to perform, while some sat down on the couch by the stage busy on their cellphones. The show wasn’t bad, they had a couple drag queens perform. One drag queen performed oral on two of the guys. They had a shower show where they soaped up each other and simulated penetration with actual oral. Then they had the cock show where the guys came out and banged their cocks against a pole after this they came into the audience, the mamasan told everyone “you can touch, you can suck” the guy who I was eying came over with his cock out, I played with it a little and tipped him 100 baht, once the guys saw I tipped they all started to come to me. Then I had ended tipping four of them. After the show the guys got back on stage. i asked the mamasan if the guy I was interested spoke any English. She said his English was very bad, so I asked if I could buy him a drink. She called out his number and he came out, had had been smiling at me all night, when he sat down he asked me the basic questions mentioned on this forum, where are you from? How long you visit? Etc. I cuddled with him a bit and asked him some questions like his position, has it been busy. Etc his English was more than adequate translator app not needed, I asked him his rate he told him 2500 I probably could have haggled. However i didn’t want to bother. I agreed. I asked him if he had to wait until after last show, cause he was part of the cock show, he said yes, however he misunderstood me cause a minute later he asked if I wanted to go now and I said yes. He called mamasan over to collect fees, while he went to get changed, he was from Cambodia. I said I wanted to take taxi as I didn’t feel like walking back. We got back to my hotel room, not an eye batted that I was brining someone back, he took a shower. We had some fun, a lot of fun. He was well equipped and was actually engaged and seemed to be enjoying himself as well, which is a big turn on for me, after we took a shower together, this is when I asked him if he had any friends in the club that he did threesomes with. He said he did. I told him if I was at the bar tomorrow maybe I would be interested, I laid the fee, with a little extra, then he left for the night. the next day, Sunday I was very tired from the night before as I woke up very early, I did some more sight seeing, I got back to my hotel room around 5 pm and was tired I ended up napping until 8. When I woke up I was deciding whether or not I wanted to goto the bars, I decided I should. I had a shower then headed out. This time I walked the alley again, then back out, to another small dead end alley with banana room. I didn’t go in looked interesting. I walked bit further around the block and I found moonlight and then I noticed the other bars under fresh boys. Goodboys. The promoters of these bars seemed less interested in calling you in. When I was in the alley with moonlight no one called over to me, I was wearing black shorts and a black tshirt maybe I wasn’t dressed well enough? Same for dream boys not a single promoter asked me to come inside, I was getting warm and decided to go into a bar to cooldown from the heat. I thought I saw a bar where the show started at 9:45 but I couldn’t find that board tonight, maybe only Saturday? So I ended up going to hot male. This place felt smaller than fresh boys. Again there was mostly only Asian tourists and a few Indian tourists as well, the boys where all on stage however this time they just stood there, no movement to change position. They smiled at you, grabbed their crotches, they were wearing white tank tops with red long pants, some shirtless. A couple guys interested me,but they didn’t seem interested in me, so why bother? Another white guy came in. He bought a couple bottles they seemed to know him there. 5-8 of the guys went to join him and enjoy drinks. I felt like the room was too brightly lit. I preferred the dark seats of fresh boys. the show started, it consisted of some strip dancing, cock shows, then big cock show, one guy had a very large cock and he stayed hard without using their makeshift cock rings, they did come out with weird costumes for this, I wasn’t interested in anyone so when they came around for tips I just said no thanks, the show ended I paid my tab and left, then I decided to head over to fresh boys. at fresh boys they where just finishing the show with the cock parade where they use their cocks to hit the pole. I sat down. After the guy from the night before saw me he waved to me and smiled, then after he out his shirts back on for the lineup he came over to me to say hi, I tipped him 100 and he rejoined the lineup. His buddy was standing next to him in the lineup and pointing to the both of them trying to get me to pick both, I was unsure, his buddy was trying very hard, even playing with the guys cock through his shorts on stage. It was getting late and I didn’t really want to make the guy I was interested wait longer so I asked one of the waiters to have him come sit with me and I will buy drink, I asked is he your friend who does threesome he said yes but he told me another number who fucks better. I said ok let’s see. The other one came around on stage however I wasn’t interested in him even tho he definitely was trying to attract my attention, I told my guy I’m not really interested. He asked who I liked, I told him I liked him the best, he was happy and asked if I was gonna take him tonight, I said yes. I didn’t want to put the guys on stage through anymore torture so I asked to pay bill while he changed. we took Tuktuk back to hotel, I had great time he was even better second time, usually I find that’s not the case, he really worked hard to ensure I was satisfied. We later in bed after finishing and talked a bit, I asked him maybe you have verse guy I can watch first then we can all play. He said he did have friend even better he thinks I will like. I said maybe next time I go I can see. He told me about some sights I should visit. I know this is transactional but I felt like he actually was happy to be with me and this matters the most to me. i will definitely off him again.. maybe with a friend… who knows. Tonight I will try to find the one bar and see how that is. I may end up going to good boys tonight as well. Depending oh one thing I should mention at fresh boys and hotmale both give you back 50 baht in your change as coins, likely so you will leave that as a tip, which they got me and I did. I will add to this post tomorrow.

With only a few more days left in Bangkok, I thought it might be interesting to a few to pen a few notes. Please forgive that they are unstructured. I hope to understand more from the distinguished posters here present for my next trip or perhaps my last few days here. For context, this is my fourth trip to Bangkok. My first two trips were for weekends and my second was for a week so I do not try to compete with the experience on this forum. I cannot commit to a daily report but I am visiting some other countries in South East Asia during my time away and I will try to do the same while travelling. Before flying from London Heathrow, I jumped at the chance to spend a few days with friends in Oxford as I would be in the UK anyway. I can highly recommend the ‘Oxford Tube’ as a means of transport, which actually a bus! It took me from central London, where I had stayed for two nights of tourism to the beautiful city of Oxford in an hour and a half. Returning from Oxford to Heathrow required a change at Hillingdon station and one more bus for the princely sum of less than 2GBP. Grindr in Oxford was full of handsome, university types and it was interesting to see many described themselves as ‘trans’, ‘non-binary’ or ‘queer’ despite presenting as a masculine. Grindr in London was very busy and it was pan-European in nature, despite Brexit! For those interested, I gathered that the going rate was about 150-200GBP though I did not partake. Eva Air direct to Suvarnabhumi on their business class product was efficient, friendly and comfortable. The food was good, the wine flowed and the flight landed right on time after a good night of sleep. Arrivals was very busy, there was a 10 minute wait at the fast track section but the bags were quick - so quick in fact that most people had not made it through security. I’ve been staying at Le Méridien, and it is good. I like the evening pizza menu and breakfast is very good. I’m not sure there has been much benefit to my suite upgrade, I have barely used the lounge and the men I have brought back to the room have on more than one occasion have been confused about why one person would need so much space (I think even regarding it as an unnecessary extravagance). No problem with guests, key cards required for the lift, friendly staff. Lots of gay folk, as I type from the ground floor I am looking at a middle aged guy European couple walking together wearing rainbow pins and holding hands. Last time I stayed at Raya but I would choose here next time and save a few THB in a standard room. The lounge is very nice and if I have time I will post a picture from the lounge, which I think may be a fair challenge for the ‘best view from a toilet’ posts previously seen on this forum. I am ambitious to become a flâneur (I cannot think of an English equivalent) in my later life and there is no better city than Bangkok to practice. I’ve enjoyed (most of the time) my solitude, thoughts, my wandering, my coffee, my aimlessness and people-watching. Today, for example, consider Soi 4. At around noon, a large gathering of very smartly-dressed business types in designer suits queued for street food. Interested, I wandered down the Soi to see about four carts in front of Banana Bar and other venues in the Soi. It seemed to the most popular place for these hi-so workers for miles. I wonder if these distinguished folk know the depravity that takes place just a few short hours after they have gathered their tasty morsels? I imagine they know all-too-well and care little - and this is why I love Bangkok! I enjoy these aimless considerations. I felt something was ‘off’ about Tawan compared to my previous visits (when this was my favourite bar). I have since read that the papasan in the beret, that I have before met, has recently passed away sadly and this is probably why. Much lenience is required, I suspect he was well-loved by staff. I have not stayed for a show but when visiting earlier in the evening the men working are less likely to sit alongside customers than in my previous visits. Some older Thai men take the place of papasan but do not occupy the attention of customers. The place is looking more dishevelled than before. That has, though, always been part of its charm. I have a fond (?) memory of walking up the stairs from the bar to a room for a massage (if I assure you that it was virtuous, you will not believe me). A large rat ran over my foot, leading to my loud screams and a look of horror at my exclamation from the masseur. Happy memories. I have not found a guy to take home yet from Tawan as their huddle of men now includes a number of twinks, which are not my type. I did have an interesting moment with a man who I think said his name was David. He was my type and I was leaving the bar, having concluded after one drink that enough was enough. He chased me down the road, threw his arms around me and told me he was horny. My intention, of course, was to take a man to the room to discuss neoclassicalism’s influence on 18th century Greek literature so this admission of horny-ness took me rather by surprise. I declined the offer, wrongly now I think about it, as I was in the mindset of marching to HotMale determinedly. I will try Tawan again and hope that this is a temporary situation caused by the loss of a formidable figure. HotMale beer bar is still a good spot with fairly priced drinks, smiling staff and good views. I was surprised to see cannabis being smoked at the tables (only by one group of customers on one day). There is a very handsome man who seems to stay behind the bar there, preparing drinks rather than waiting tables. I have been trying hard to have eye contact with him, succeeding often, but receiving a nonchalant response. Perhaps my portly (read: fat) build is off-putting or the stars just do not align. I will not give up yet. Advice welcome. HotMale’s gogo has been the surprise of my trip, in a good way. The men on stage are keen to smile and engage with eye contact, are engrossed in securing your attention and not on their phones. Though they are thin in number, there is something for everyone and especially for me (preferring 25-45, handsome, not thin, Dadbod or muscular-but-not-too-muscular types). Smoking being allowed will be an irritant for some, but the papasan is flexible about reseating (and it has never been busy enough for this to be a problem). The HotMale ensemble are mostly topless and wearing fetching, pillar-box red sweatpants. The show is awkward when it is quiet but ends well with an explicit fanfare that even would make my old Aunt Agatha blush (and she a woman with a remarkable, audacious character). I had one strange experience with a guy I offed from HotMale when motivated by the aforementioned explicit display. His girth, so to speak, was impressive from a distance. Back in the hotel, just as we made progress with a particularly challenging logarithmic identity, I became distracted. Something about this girth was not quite right. It wasn’t that there were beads or noticeable defects, but the thickness seemed somehow artificial and not in keeping with the rest of the member concerned. He was a good egg, and no harm was done. He showed me his Lao passport which revealed both that he was aged 29 but also that he was considerably more handsome now than when the picture was taken a number of years ago! FreshBoys has the same loud and irritating mamasan and her interest in me has been only for the purpose of generating tips. The men are young, I would say 20-25, predisposed to mobile-phone addiction at all times when not on the stage though smiles are frequent. I am unlikely to revisit but this place will be a gem for some. The new Sol Bar is interesting and I have no conclusions. From a distance (that is to say the HotMale beer bar) the men look handsome on the balcony, are mostly topless and I really like the shorts with numbers on rather than the usual badges. Inside, I had a different experience on my one visit. In some way, the lighting is not flattering and the building looks more downtrodden than when it was Dream Boys. Somehow, I have not yet been able to bring myself to have more than one drink but my reason is not rational and based on some ‘feeling’. I will try again. I have not yet made it to the Dream Boy show but will before I leave and update. I cannot be motivated to go to Jupiter or Moonlight but I must do so because the men are hot and I have seen good reports recently. My struggle is the passive, unsmiling approach I previously saw when visiting. Also, I feel the men are hoping a woman will ‘off’ them, there being so many and the men being straight, and I will therefore be a disappointment. Advice welcome. I would also like advice on the language barrier. I am almost ready to ask the mama/papasans which men speak English well. I think this relates to another problem. My ‘offs’ have been gratifying, but short with little room for conversation. Yesterday, I had to use Google Translate ask the guy if he wanted a drink from the minibar. My ‘offs’ last half an hour usually and I am craving more (they are probably enjoying the easy cash!). Though I don’t want LT, I cannot sleep unless alone. On my first visit a few years ago, I think I got lucky and saw the same man three or four times (now sadly ‘gone’ as per the report of the papasan) and we went for a few drinks before our deliberations on counterurbanisation in the room began. I enjoyed his company and sense of fun. This has not happened naturally for me yet. I would like company than extends beyond 30 minutes in the room talking through a phone. Advice welcome. Although I have adjusted to the jetlag, I do also have a dilemma about adjusting to how late everything happens. I am trying to dine around 2030, as things just don’t begin here until about 2230. I cannot do a 2am finish and a breakfast that finishes at 10am! I need more to be occupied with between 1700-2200 and cannot drink alcohol during this time as I will be drunk by midnight! I will post again and await thoughts and advice eagerly.

Day 1 He was losing the battle. Talking to him daily by video call on WhatsApp for last 3 weeks I could see him getting weaker and weaker and our talk was shorter and shorter. Even if he kept his mental faculties intact he was losing strength inch by inch. His last words I heard were ‘ thank you ‘ presumably unfinished ‘ thank you for a call “ . And then next morning message from wife “ he left us last night”. Even if I’m quarter of world away I knew that I need attend his funeral , simply because I felt I owe it to him and his family I was so close to for that last 44 years. Fact that we were the same age , to a month, was kind of warning signal ‘ you are somewhere in the line man”. Is not easy to get last minute decent prized flight but Guardian Angel was on my side I found one although requiring stay there over one week past funeral date, option I was not keen on for few reasons. Then moment of enlightenment came ‘ see if you can find something to Bangkok for that week”. After all I was to be half way there already. An hour later I had a ticket for some obscure airlines, Pegasus and Air Arabia, carry on up to 6 kg and food for purchase only but price was right. And since I travel light anyways it was not obstacle. That way instead of January of 2027 or perhaps even 2029 I found myself landing in Swampy mid Nov of 2024 via Istanbul and Sharjah. For those who are curious about those dates -my August trip was partially disappointing and I did not have any immediate plans to return any time soon as result. But lets be honest , if one is stressed and want to get away from it all while looking for calm and consolation there’s no better place than Bangkok urban jungle , at least not for me. Arrival at 4.30 pm was very convenient, immigration was a breeze, weather quite pleasant and rates in the exchange kiosks by the train station quite digestible. It was already darkening when I walked from Sala Daeng to Red Planet, my hotel for first 2 nights. Budget option but recent price raises of BKK hotels were substantial so I decided to look for cheaper options this time. Room was on smaller side but had all amenities one needs, AC and safety deposit box were working , everything was clean and bathroom was of proper size, one can say almost as big as room itself. Only thing in short supply is place to hang your stuff , only 3 hangers provided but since I travel light , I managed anyways. Best thing about Red Planet is discretion. Reception is on 2nd floor so it means when coming to the room alone or with somebody one bypasses it entirely, the same like in Raya. No breakfast provided but on ground floor facing street there’s 7/11 and walk to Foodland is not that long. At 9 to Foodland to eat something , soon reader showed up since I reported to him my arrival from the train . After sharing news we parted ways and I went to Hot Male but S was sitting with somebody who looked is serious about offing him but was nice enough to allow him to come and shake hands. Seeing that I don’t source any consolation there after finishing my beer I went to Jupiter , at mouth of soi enthusiastically greeted by Guido, owner of G’Bangkok restaurant and both barkers from Banana across the soi. At Jupiter I wanted to check one guy strongly recommended to me by one of our members and I spotted him immediately , impressive indeed and 127.48 % of my type. Soon there was walkabout so I gave him red note but during second walk he did not even look at my side so I abandoned an idea of approaching him tonight. I have my rules but it needs to be said , he impressed me indeed so no hard feelings. Modern technology helped as my phone buzzed. Hoping it was S I went to bathroom and indeed it was him saying he is free already. Soon we met in Foodland and after a meal we walked to Red Planet. On corner of soi 6 K from Tawan eyed me and asked for a tip so I gave red note to him resolving at the same time to skip that bar this trip entirely. S is rock sold quality and performance so indeed he was somebody I needed to be with after such sad last several days. He noticed I’m in different mood and tried to be as romantic and gentle as he could and it worked. This trip started well, very well I’d say.

Day 1 That will be short one as I said arrived at 17.40. Immigration line was hair rising but speed was world beating. It was second longest I saw in BKK ever and still with all boths opened and personnel wisely directing internationals even to “ASEAN or Thai only” booths when they were free it moved shockingly fast. By time I bought SIM card my luggage was out already and in exactly 75 minutes from plane touching tarmac I was already waiting for train at the platform. Raya, where I opened door exactly 47 hours and 45 minutes after closing my home door, was informed that I will miss previous night but at least room was waiting for me ( no refund for no show) so I unpacked , desoiled and went to 7/11 to buy some necessities in process took circular way through Thaniya and Patpong 2. At 21.00 I was supposed to meet J, our member at G’Bangkok , soi 4. As it happened his last day was mine first. So we caught on news and food and being already in soi 4 we decided to go to Jupiter . On recent trips somehow it’s always first bar I’m visiting. Due to esthetics as their boy collection beats them all not a bad place to start. I’m not being big fan of Jupiter due to their policy requiring boys to appear cold , aloof and uninterested. This of course changes right away after one invites boy to seat beside but still I don’t like it as can’t gauge if g boy is treating me as transparent because I deserve or because boss told them so. Of course looking at them during their walkouts is pure pleasure , smile or not. And soon after we sat down first round started. I tipped red note two of them including hero of my many stories and veteran of dozen if not more offs over the years HC (Handsome Cambodian). I did not count on anything other than may be nod and shy smile during next round acknowledging tip and my presence. But disappointingly during next walkabout I was still transparent air. There were few smiles but not at me and not by me tippees . That was bit discouraging and disappointing so when J, who in meantime had some hunk sitting beside signaled he is ready to go I gladly went with them. This was my only visit at Jupiter this trip or as my father would say “ this trip I was there two times - first and last”. Outside I wished guys fun , to J also safe trip home and we parted ways. I went to Moonlight hoping Y will be available but he was already booked to tonight so I secured his presence for tomorrow by slipping him and mamasan who leeched on me immediately remembering me very well from previous visits red note each and went to Hot Male beer bar where P was present so I offered him a drink and in process asked about option of accompany me tonight. He agreed but I sensed answer is kind of suspended. On top of it , even it treated with drink , instead of keeping me company he was constantly on the move here and there. At some point when I noticed he is going to bar upstairs with some female patron I did one of best things this trip, right on the first evening – paid for both drinks and just took off. As it was past midnight I decided to try my favorite corner in Bangkok at soi 6 and Suriwong. That the place where Tawan boys use to drink after bar closes. Tonight it was only D solitary drinking from small Hong Thong bottle. We meet many times in the past, now he is in bit less of shape but his skin is still as smooth as baby’s and being late I made another best decision, drunk or not I asked if he wants to go with me. Happy smile and nod. He wanted to ride his motorsai but I declined and we walked to Raya. Holly Molly, he was always quiet and bit reserved companion , very suitable for 1st night after long trip but not tonight. I was hoping for pussy cat but instead got lion, very sweet lion indeed. As close to boyfriend experience as one can dream about. It was almost shocking in a best sense. I guess blend of being bit drunk and probably not being offed for some time contributed to that energy. What an introduction to Bangkok and a trip and end of day 1 !!!

Preliminaries and getting to. This was my first trip to Thailand after leaving workforce for good and as result it was also longest of them all (so far I hope).Also first covering month of January, I was in that month before twice but only for ,few days in the beginning back in 2003 and at end last year. I keep travel diary on evert trip everywhere so no need to stretch my memory, cleaning glasses from time to time will suffice to produce this report. Reading it this morning I noticed that some occurrences faded from memory already which makes point again not to be upset about small things as they are soon forgotten for good. Winter trip has advantages of escaping cold but also carries risk that weather may go in the way. It was exactly a case this time. When we boarded plane snow blizzard started . It was sudden and energetic and as result we took off exactly 2 hours later than scheduled. Considering that at Narita I had originally exactly 2 hours connection time it was obvious that something will happen. Either, like last time I took that route plane to Bangkok will be waiting but luggage arrive day later or I need to be placed on another flight that evening or day after. Did not bother me as nothing I could do on my part. I did not enjoy flight much ( one of those things faded from memory I mentioned before but diary remembers). It was cold inside and this comes from guy who likes winter over summer. For first few hours entertainment system did not work which I don’t care but in modern aircrafts one can’t turn on reading light if screen is dead so I lost few hours of reading time. And to add to my misery , food was nothing memorable and that is charitable. But as always there was bonus – nobody seating beside me. I always fly at the back , middle section , aisle seat , hoping for that to happen and it did again. I noticed that elbow space is as important as legs one on those long flights. We landed as we departed , exactly 2 hours after scheduled time and were advised to see agents who will inform as about further connection. This being Japan , was organized very well. Indeed lady was holding placard with Bangkok and my flight number, told me where to go and there another agent gave me boarding pass for tomorrow morning , advised to pick up my luggage , pass immigration and go to the parking spot nr 16 where shuttle bus to hotel will be waiting. It was all in print on small piece of paper. Impressive enough. Japan I thought. Then somehow things get a bit less smooth as I was waiting exactly 2 hours for my luggage to emerge entertaining myself with Whatsapping, e-mailing and Lineing. After that we were back to Japan. Bus arrived and was filled to capacity with people sharing my misfortune, from what I heard not only Bangkok bound but also Bejjing and Saigon but somebody said Manilla passengers were lucky to be placed on next flight departing tonight. At the hotel they knew exactly why we are there, there was special counter arranged and we got our keys and coupon for supper tonight and breakfast tomorrow as well as information about bus to the airport departing in the morning. In short all my questions at Narita were answered before I even asked them. It was too late to go to the city 1hr train trip away so I settled in the room and did not even bother with evening meal. Just made my tea and went asleep. As for breakfast ‘opulent’ is understatement. All tasted soooo good and I feel sorry for myself that days I was eating more than I need are over. I was placed on Thai flight and again had luck of nobody seating beside – it’s after all still 7 hrs flight. I already commented in another thread, meal they served was probably best airplane meal I ever had and no, after that breakfast I was not starving or something , it was just extremely tasty, just pork with rice but made for kings and CEO’s . This way instead of landing at 22.30 , I arrived at 17.40 next day and day 1 of my trip started. still Christmas time in Japan Scat Airlines ? I wonder what this is all about

Summary Definitely and by far sightseeing’s high point was Sukhotai and Kampheang Phet. Fact that my friend K decided to go with me doubled that travel fun. Angkor and environs were second, because all those places I already visited in the past but Cambodian ruins have such pull on me that I can visit there to no end. I’m glad I went to Phuket, finally I know how it is there and may return in future if only to explore gay scene bit more energetically than I did this time. I beat my cousin to James Bond Island , that counts for plenty as well. As for boys I did not get anybody I regretted to engage. With few some improvement could be used but there were no antics like leaving suddenly out of blue (ok there was one case but I let it go for reason explained ) . It looks that engaging tried and tested pays big time and if we meet winner it’s good to keep him close like I did with both PP and Pattaya guys, new to me. S was great travel companion and I’m glad I had him with me in Siem Reap and by my side every few days in Bangkok. Y knows I like him and shows his appreciation every time we met. NM surprisingly showed his romantic side and both Tawan guys I offed facilitated steamiest nights I had in whole month. All 7 guys mentioned above had one endearing trait, none of them asked for any extras other than agreed. When we dined their choices were modest. I liked that . I don’t mind to open purse but don’t like to be treated as money well. Some quotations this trip were excessive, certainly boys are trying to cash in. With one exception I managed to keep their tips within my budget, bargaining down when necessary. Only case I yielded I treated as last of our many meeting in the past and can’t see repeat in the future. It was one upsetting disappointment , right in the beginning, indifferent look of Jupiter guy , veteran of many offs. But I guess all comers to an end, even customer loyalty and client’s infatuation . And two regrets, both for lack of time . I should off that Tawan waiter at least once more. I never thought I will be regretting not offing the twink but here I am. And I did not gave a chance to two Banana Club guys , Vu Thy and new #31. I think I know where my first steps next trip will be. Now you guys can vent your frustrations with me “ who the fuck writes such long and convoluted trip reports ? Screw you vinapu!

Post trip reflections. Highlights - S'sense is a big winner and a pleasant discovery for this trip. I always tend to go to a no hanky panky spa for a decent massage and then visit another place in search of the fun extras. I am delighted that from experience, both elements are present in S'sense. I always make it a point to avoid recommending a specific guy as experiences and individual connection can vary. However, I would recommend Knott just for his massage skills alone. - Hotmale is another surprise. I am pleased that I gave this place a second chance after a lack lustre experience from my first visit. - My meetups through apps have been consistently pleasant during this trip. While this mode takes heaps of time and effort to weed out time wasters and dodgy characters, it can be worth it. My meetups with non Thailand based MBs thru the app is a new Bangkok experience for me. - Tawan is always a highlight. The unpretentious ,relaxed and friendly atmosphere is something other boy bars are not able to duplicate. - Kman Spa. Another notable discovery this trip. Worth the effort getting there. Looking forward to explore the other establishments in the Saphan Kwai area next time. - LTs: maybe because of the lean season, securing LTs are not as difficult compared to previous experience pre pandemic. Most guys are also not in a hurry to go home the next morning. Maybe it's just my luck this time. Lowlights - Banana bar just didn't tick any of my boxes this time. I'm not sure if its unusual but they only had four performers rotating the whole time I was there. People will take a peek by the door and will instantly walk off. - Fresh boys is always a lowlight for me but I always end up visiting at least once every trip. The lack of subtlety on the part of waiters and Mamasans when asking for tips and drinks can be irritating. I mean asking for tips/drinks within the first minute of conversation? - AirBnB: given its legal status in Thailand, I always second guess and brace myself everytime I bring a boy back. The apartment I rented have posted notices and banners saying that the building is strictly for residential use and not for short rental like air bnb. The notices were written in a way that the renters can get into trouble if they don't report this to building management. But again, this is Thailand. While I didn't have any issues during my previous stay, I'll stick to the usual tried and tested Silom hotels next time. - Jupiter: as advised, I will try to ignore the ice cold standoffish behaviour of the guys next time. I might be in for a surprise. - Dreamboys is a mixed bag for me. While their new place is a definite improvement, both my visits didn't result to an off. Not crossing this off my list and will give it a try next time. Compared from my visit last year, things are really looking very positive. There seems to be no remnants of the pandemic and Silom / Surawong area is bustling with most establishments back to operating till late night / early morning. Overall, this 12 day experience have been pleasant with no major dramatics with any of my off. Fingers crossed it will be like this next time. Thank you for reading my reports and hopefully this will be of help to you guys for your next trip. I am looking forward reading your future reports too!

hi guys.. i am ash.. from INDIA. This is my 4th visit to pattaya and 1st time i came alone here to explore more naughty things. I reached BKK airport at 9.30am on 25th october. as there is no visa policy for INDIANS just done direct immigration and came out. Grab taxi cost me 1500 thai baht to pattaya Sunshine hotel. Sunshine hotel is cheap( 750 babt per day for total 4 days) and best for solo travel. They given me room at 2pm afternoon even though check in time is at 3pm. 25-10-2024 Day 1 - I went to Helios men .. the best for me {[( 2017 i went once , 2019 i went once , then 2023 march i went once)]} helios never disappointed me. I always take foam massage because massage less fun part more. the boys here are very co-operative massage cost - 600 min tip to boy -- 1000 I met the guy name Tree. he is medium to gym build. I dont like six packs or heavy built guys.he is best he told me to take shower and left for 2-3min , after shower he came and given back rub and we did alot of fun.. kissing hugging i did massage to him as well ofcourse he did massage to me.. 69 we did.. i fucked him little because just fucking is not my cup of tea i like passionate romance alot. I am versa top ( sorry if someone felt bad that i explained little more about what happened at Helios. I paid him extra 1000baht to him because he did his best. I took his whatsapp number and asked him to come with me for Xboys night 10pm and 11pm show because i never went to any gogoboys bar. he came at 9.30pm and we went inside Xboyz. Xboyz show was mind blowing.. full of cocks. I thought to take back the same massage guy who i met helios thats the reason i told him to come with me. Xboys pattaya at 9.50pm show cost - 300baht including drink I like 1 guy age 25yrs and finally talked to someguy who is operating this show.. initially told 800 is off fee and boy told 2800 his fees. then i told no. but operating guy finally told to take the guy for total 2500 without off fees or 500 off fees and 2000 for Short time(ST) both are same haha. I offered 2 drinks for him.. he is very co-operative.. and operating guy took my hand from boys shoulder and told me to catch boys cock.. and i did that he is very comfortable and rest his head on my shoulder. The guy name tree who came with me since 9.45pm he is just laughing with me as i ditched him and taking back new guy in positive way. I told Mr. tree guy clearly .. if i dont like anyone then u come to my room i pay 1500 baht as u fixed the price if not i will take u to my room some day in 4 days visit here for sure. Mr.tree is co-operative and helped me to talk with boy and decrease the money by bargain as well. finally i given Mr-Tree 500 baht and 300 drink for him and he is happy too. Me and the new boy from Xboyz went to my hotel room and enjoyed under hot shower. he is very soft and medium tight body. I licked his entire body all parts almost did romance for 1hr 30min. i went to Indian restaurant and ate he left after the fun. He is top and i am too so except fuck we did everything. Xboys pattaya show is the best full of nudity and timepass. I loved it. at 3.30am i slept till next day 11am. If this content helpful and to give some suggestions plz do comment and will continue my rest of journey for 4 days.

Tittle is misleading but was given to this trip by our member bkkmfj who accompanied me to Bangkok during this short, 2 days in Pattaya and 6 in Bangkok trip to Thailand last month. I think only terrorizing part were 3 hotel changes three days in row but I booked those before he decided to join in and to sweeten whole thing , all were walking distance from each other. Day 1 This time I arrived by KLM from Amsterdam and arrival time was great , at 9.30 in the morning. There was no line up to immigration at all, I just walked in to get stamped and had even option of choosing one of three officers. No waiting for luggage as I was with carry on only. Buying SIM card took few minutes and I found myself with almost 2 hours to kill before my Jomtien bus departure scheduled at noon. This trip I decided to try something new for me i.e. going to Pattaya straight from airport. With excess time I went to train station to exchange some money, then ate something in coupon restaurant by gate 8 and went to the booth to exchange my bus reservation for an actual ticked as instructed when booked on website. I got moment of enlightenment since it was 10.45 and asked if I can get seat on 11.00 am bus. Luckily , there was seat but I was charged extra 50 baht for changing reservation. Around 1 pm I was already marching to Agate hotel in Jomtien Complex where room was already waiting for me. After desoiling I went to 7/11 across the street for some goodies and decided to see N, my semi regular there at his massage place nearby. No sign of him, as I learned later he went to see his folks at home for few days but consolation was at hand at the same shop. T, whom I never got pleasure with before but got good feedback about from one of our members was at hand so of we went for 1.5 hr session, 400+1200 tip. I was happy to discover that recommendation was very accurate. Got his Line with intention of asking him for long time in case none of guys I was hoping to see at Dreamboys would not be available. Either tonight or tomorrow. It was darkening when I took songtaew to Boyztown where I had a dinner is one of Indian restaurants there. Chicken with cashews there had some distinctive taste likely due to use some Indian spices but it was great tasting anyways. Then to Copa to claim my room. As advised in some thread in spring , in Pattaya to avoid travelling between Jomtien and Boyztown I often rent cheap 2nd room at either end. Handy just in case either boy or myself doesn’t feel like traveling in the middle of the night. As mentioned above I hoped to see #36 and #37 at Dreamboys. #36 was my outstanding companion when I was there in January. I did not have pleasure with #37 then but saw him in the bar waiting for his customer and he was extremely handsome HUNK. On top of that I got recommendation from trusted member who had better luck and engaged him at Christmas time. After obtaining key I parked myself with beer on Copa’s terrace where shortly bkkmfj joined me for a chat and ironing our trip to Bangkok after tomorrow. We both noticed very attractive tattooed massage freelancer offering his services in the soi while sitting on his motorbike. At 10pm we went to Dreamboys , me full of hope and excited with anticipation but as soon as we sat down it was explained to me that neither boys I planned to see is no longer there. So much about dreaming about boys at home, first day and already 3 boys from the list MIA. Disappointed , after we emptied our drinks I suggested checking show at Xboys and it was great idea as show was very progressive with, ahem, some risky numbers. A , veteran there recognized me but still smarting after Dreamboys fiasco I was in no mood to take him with me tonight although he is worth every penny he may ask for. Great body and personality as well as very qualified to participate in big c…k show. We returned to Jomtien complex where I have some hope, guy I saw on Grinder, hunk who likes kissing by his own admission on the profile. Bkkmfj knew who I’m talking about and even knew bar he is usually sitting but at that time of night he was gone. Another disappointment. But wait, I still have Line of T, the masseur and it was time when his shift should be over so I lined him but answer was “cannot tonight , can tomorrow “ . Ouch. So I gave up hope of having somebody tonight and went to 7/11 to eat problem out with some sandwich. Then I got stubborn and while munching outside hotel I fired up Grindr and found somebody I liked. “ I sleep with you if you give me money “ was the answer to obvious question. How much ? 1500. Waiting for you said I. In 10 minutes he showed up. Not looking exactly as in profile with face less cute but built more substantial than I anticipated. So off we went to my room to check recent acquisition to my and his stamp collections. And it’s how day 1 was over.

I think the Thai Ministry of Tourism should toss this forum a commission for all the spur-of-the-moment trips it inspires. I mean, who wouldn't feel a twinge of envy and rush to book a trip after scrolling through those Thailand adventures and tips written here? So, there I was, bitten by the travel bug, and voila! ------ found myself booking an unplanned trip to the land of smiles. Touching down in Bangkok after a longer than usual stopover in Taiwan, I braced myself for the infamous immigration snake lines. But despite the full queues, every counter was promptly manned, and I breezed through. Maybe because cause of the build up in immigration, baggage claim took less than a minute, thanks to my luck and eagle eyes spotting my luggage as soon as I approached the carousel. Sorted out some cash and a SIM card, then off to my pre-booked pickup. As I got whisked off from my pickup point, I was hit with that warm, unmistakable Bangkok air, making me buzz with excitement and giddiness for the adventures ahead. Hotel check-in was expected to be a breeze, yet I found myself low-key panicking as my card repeatedly acted up declining the transaction. It finally dawned on me that I had forgotten to adjust the low maximum spend setting—a habit whenever I travel. The allocated room seemed reasonable initially, but its issues became apparent later. After showering off my jetlag, I hailed a taxi for my pre-booked appointment at S'sense Spa in Suan Plu. Knott was still at the spa and appeared delighted to see me. Upon asking if he really remember me, he promptly identified me by removing my socks pointing at my ankle tattoo, a gesture that left me both shocked and impressed. The quality of my session with Knott, both massage and cheeky extras, remained consistently good as I remembered. This explains my choice of S'sense as my first stop—a reassuring and safe start to the trip, saving the fun experimentation, risks, and disappointments for later. Following purchase of supplies and stocking the fridge, jetlag began to rear its ugly head. Nevertheless, I resolved to push through and explore Silom. To my disappointment, Tawan remained shuttered, prompting me to wax nostalgic reminiscing nights spent there, particularly recalling that going to Tawan was my first foray into Silom nightlife. My first ever off was with Tawan's hunky Lek, given my hotel was close by (the now defunct Glitz). Although tempted to inquire about familiar faces nearby, shyness prevailed, fearing potential embarrassment if they were not from Tawan. I strolled towards Hotmale, noted a familiar performance and lineup except for a cute, smiling hunk whom I promptly invited to join me. He's from Myanmar and only been working there for four months. He has a very sweet and friendly demeanour. Being a rookie, he seems to be very dependent on translation apps. I typically don't mind language barriers, often finding them endearing and cute. But given my fatigue from travel and jetlag, I decided to listen to my body and give tonight a pass. I bid him farewell with a bit generous tip, sincerely promising to return. And that, folks, is how I ended up with no off on my first night in Bangkok!

Last night, I sat in my favorite haunt with J., my regular boy, whom I have been taken off almost every day whenever I'm in Pattaya since last Dec (1-year anniversary coming up). As usual, I asked him to pick a friend to sit with us. J., from Laos, called T., another Laos boy, over. He said "Although we are not close, I want to help him. I hardly ever saw he had customers. " T. is slim, not bad looking but quiet and reserved in manner (kinda out of place in this kind of bar), and on the older side in terms of barboy age (28). We talked and he indeed had few customers. Been working here for nearly two months, only 4 off so far, not so many drinks either, so he barely made it. While we were chatting, a customer, who was sitting alone at the next table, looked on with interest. Then he asked me in English if T. is also working in the bar, probably because he was fully dressed while all other boys (including my own) were shirtless. Feeling an opportunity is presenting itself, I confirmed and asked if he wanted to sit with the boy, explaining that although T. was sitting with us, I'm more than glad to let him switch tables. The guy appeared he wasn't sure what to do, saying that he's pretty new to the scene and still trying to figure out how things work. So T. remained at our table but the customer joined in the conversation on a translation-chain basis, meaning he said something to me in English, I Google-translated into Laos then showed it to J. who in turns repeated to T. It went like that for a while, and all of a sudden, the customer said loudly, to no one in particular, "It would be better if he takes off his shirt". When that idea finally reached T. down the translation line, he still looked sort of uncertain about what to do. It was time something needs to be done to speed things up. So I stood up, marched over to T., who was sitting across the table, and took off his shirt with my hands. Then I chaperoned both him and his drink to the next table, and gently pushed him down next to the customer. Now T. can communicate directly with the customer using google translation. Things started going smoother and the customer ordered two more drinks for himself and T. The customer is Dutch but lives in Spain. He said he is quite reserved himself so has great affinity for a shy boy like T., who, in the customer's words, obviously was not self-aware of how handsome he is. The customer himself is not bad-looking either, and J. confirmed he checked off several things on a bar boy's list "neat-looking, polite, no body odor, not too old, not too fat." "I'm not gonna take advantage of the boy the first time we talk. I can't promise that the next time though." He said. Gentlemanly conduct, but me think "Please. He's ready to be taken advantage of. That's why he's working here". Then I noticed there was still some (physical) distance between T. and the customer, who sat ramrod straight. I told J., who told T. to get closer. Since T. still didn't look like he knows what to do, I gestured for him to follow my lead: I nudged closer to J., hugged him, rested my head lightly on his shoulder, and placed a peck on his cheek. T., albeit a bit haltingly, followed suit, down to the pecking part. The customer, obviously seeing the whole thing, looked both amused and happy. He declared "I've been here for only three days and I'm already in love!" Again, I told J., who reminded T. to ask for the customer's contact. They later parted ways with what looks like a big tip for T. and the promise by the customer that he will come back and talk to the boy again tomorrow. I believe, he, being such a gentleman, will keep his word. I also believe I would make a good Mamasan in case I need a side job. To end on a warm note: late into the night, after J. went back to his room, I came back to the bar to watch the soi winding down. I looked inside and saw T., now totally shirtless, dancing energetically with other boys, smiling broadly when he saw me. He seemed to get that confidence boost he needed. Then I sat at the bar outside, chatted with the bartender and watched people. Somehow I might look a bit lonely and sad, to the point that another gentleman, who'd obviously mistaken me for someone in need of a customer, came to give me a hug upon leaving the bar and whispered in my ear "Don't be too shy. Things will get better!"

Left Bangkok last week for my twenty second year (have long forgotten how many individual trips but they must be closing in on 60). There we’re two things that stand out. First, was the opening of the first new gay bar in quite a while with the Dragon and Koi on Patpong 2. I believe it’s destined to do well, judging by the reception it’s energetic dancers have been receiving. Second, it’s the evolution of the massage business in Saphan Kwai. Although most of the shops are continuing to do wel due to the Continued arrival of newcomers, it’s the opening of Phoenix on Soi Inthamara 25 that stablished itself as unique. It’s all in, full service approach is superior to the competition because it eliminates the haggling. Eventually, I think, other shops will have to adopt the same policy or see their trade stagnate. One of my favorite moments each evening was opening the balcony doors and at about 1a.m. and listening to the muffled sounds of the workers collapsing the vendors stands on Patpong. My favorite view at sunset looking toward the river. Departure next morning from BKK wss nearly effortless, using the new immigration gate system. First one checks passport and second gate your photo .

Trip Report – Koh Chang – 15 Jan 2024 – 18 Jan 2024 I am behind on my trip reports. I present this one from Koh Chang (which was easier to prepare) and then I will have a bigger one from Christmas/New Years - 17 day trip report for Songkhla. Sorry for the delays. Up to now, my favorite island in proximity of Pattaya has been Koh Samet. Hanging out with my volleyball friends at the Dongtan beach (Sea Rescue area), we were chatting about a new island place to go to and we decided to make a 4 day / 3 night visit to Koh Chang. Aerial shot of the Trat island archipelago One of them has a car, so that made the transportation modality easy. Note that a quick search in Google - notes that there are many busses that also go there – primarily from Bangkok but I believe that I saw one from Pattaya as well. -> Please note that their facial photos are included in this trip report with their permission given as well as their contact details in case any of you would like to use their services. <- We departed Jomtien around 9:45am and we arrived at the Ao Thammachat pier in Trat at around 14:30pm, almost 5 hours – leisurely driving with breaks for the bathroom, iced coffee, and gas. We were able to get onto the 15:30pm car ferry at a cost of 120 baht for the car and then 80 baht for the each of us for a total of 360 baht. The ferry crossing is about 30 minutes. Ferry info can be found here at: Koh Chang Ferries price list 2023 / 2024 Map of Koh Chang and surrounding islands. As you can see there are many ferry options to arrive onto the island from the mainland. Above places highlighted with a red circle are the places that we visited We booked our 3 night stay at the Klong Prao Resort Klong Prao Beach Resort webpage We booked 2 rooms and paid 1,840 baht per night for a total of 11,040 baht for 3 nights. This resort is lovely and very big with a beautiful sandy beach and lush tropical plants everywhere. As we booked kind of at the last minute we were assigned to 2 older rooms. There are 3 distinct zones around a large pond, where the zone we stayed in is the oldest and the other 2 zones are more modern. My only complaint about our rooms were there were hardly any electrical outlets for all of our devices (electric razor, tooth brush, boom box, mobile phones, etc.). Other than this inconvenience the rooms were perfect – air con worked very well, shower had hot water, and unlike my stay in Koh Samet and also in Songkhla (I still need to write this trip report) there were NO noisy geckos to wake us up in the early morning with their annoying chirping sounds. However, they are very handy for eating any annoying mosquitos, bugs and spiders. Note that the 2 newer zones have many electrical outlets as they were probably built after the advent of the popularity of mobile phones and all of our electrical gadgets. The highlights of this resort for us were: The pool and their pool bar with early evening 2 for 1 sunset happy hours – as evidenced in the below photos, The white sandy beaches and blue turquoise water. Note that the Koh Chang municipality has strict rules that keep the noisy speed boats and jet skis away – thus rendering the beaches to be more in their wonderful natural state. Day 1 (15 Jan 2024) itinerary Arrive onto the island, check in unpack, enjoy the resort grounds, pool, beach, happy hour, fantastic sunset and eat at the resort dining facility = RimHad Restaurant. Watched a great fire show performed by some hunky macho guys (similar to the familiar B-Boys, who perform all over Pattaya, Boyztown, Jomtien) on the beach in front of our resort restaurant. Like when I visited Koh Samet, these fire show guys can be found traveling up and down the beach performing in front of the many resorts and beach restaurants. It lasted about 10 minutes and was very entertaining. I realized that I did not take any still photos so the above photo is from a movie clip that I made. Then before going to sleep I received my customary massage – as both of these volleyball friends are also masseurs. Day 2 (16 Jan 2024) itinerary After the great resort buffet breakfast (an enormous selection of Western and Thai foods were available) we headed off to the Khlong Phlu Waterfall in the National Park. It was nearby, and perhaps after 30 minutes by car we were already at the trailhead for our hike. The hike took about 30 minutes and was rather easy. Explore Koh Chang - description of Koh Chang waterfalls As it was not rainy season, the waterfall was a little bit subdued, but it was still cool and refreshing to take a dip and to swim with the millions of fish that were in the water. You need to resist their lite nibbles at your skin – kind of like those tourist places that you see all over Thailand where the tourists put their feet into a fish tank to get their dead skin nibbled off. There were about 20 to 25 people there when we visited with about half of them brave enough to enter the chilly refreshing water. There is a lifeguard off to the left up on the rocks to prevent that tourists climb up onto the waterfall, as it can be quite dangerous as it is very slippery. And there I am trying to acclimate myself to the lite nibbles by the fish before I dove in and swam over to where the water was cascading down – as that end is very deep. Entrance fee to the waterfall (which is part of the national park system) was 40 baht for each of my 2 Thai friends and 200 baht for me for a total cost of 280 baht. Afterwards, back to our resort to relax, swim in the pool, take advantage of the 2-for-1 drink specials at the pool bar, and to watch the sunset. For that night’s dinner we drove over to the popular White Sands Beach area – full of restaurants, hotels, resorts, markets, etc. to eat at the Beach Tango restaurant Beach Tango restaurant Facebook page which became our favorite go-to place to eat. Why? The food and drinks were good. There was interesting eye candy – one of the wait staff had our constant attention. Plus, there were many interesting people walking up and down the beach – as there are many, many, bars and restaurants in this area. Beach Tango is smack in the middle of all of the fun and is an entertaining place to be situated. Then after dinner back to the room to relax for my nightly massage. Life is good. Day 3 (17 Jan 2024) itinerary Enjoy the buffet breakfast and then head down to the extreme southern part of Koh Chang (on the opposite side of the island) to visit the very famous Koh Ngam beach. It was a very long drive as we needed to cross the island to the other side (mainland facing), and this part of the island is not built up like the other side, so consequently, the main road became narrower and narrower up into the mountains to the point where there was only room for 1 car to pass one way with very steep curvy roads. Scary, but well worth the reward to arrive at the tiny boat station to take the 10 minute boat to cross over to the breath taking Koh Ngam. You can choose your mode of transportation – by kayak or by motorboat. We chose by motorboat as we were too excited to already be on Koh Ngam. I believe that we paid 80 baht for each Thai person, and I as a farang had to pay 200 baht, which included the boat ride over to the island. Fee is paid to a ranger on Koh Ngam – as it is now part of the Thailand National Park system. Here is a good short video with some drone footage of Koh Ngam: Youtube video with drone footage of Koh Ngam And here is what awaits you on Koh Ngam – truly amazing. After enjoying Koh Ngam (swimming, relaxing, and enjoying the view and the nature) – back on the boat to Koh Chang and then back in the car for the 1 hour trip back to our resort for those 2-for-1 pool bar cocktails and amazing sunsets. Rinse and repeat the previous night at Beach Tango for dinner and drinks and then back to the resort for my nightly good-night massage. Day 4 (18 Jan 2024) itinerary Enjoy the last breakfast buffet and check-out of the resort for the long 5 hour drive back to Pattaya (Jomtien). Phong says to me – do you want to see one more exciting place before we head back? I say, sure, why not. So, we drive over to the Kai Bae Viewpoint, which is famous for its spectacular view of 4 of the Koh Chang archipelago islands, Koh Yuak, Koh Man Noi, Koh Pli and Koh Man Nok. https://www.google.com/maps/place/Kai+Bae+Viewpoint/@12.0205768,102.2919516,15z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x3104105179b452c7:0x2b4a04572dce185b!8m2!3d12.0205768!4d102.2919516!16s%2Fg%2F11b6tz721w?hl=en&entry=ttu Note that there is excellent coffee available at this Kai Bae viewpoint. Before almost reaching Pattaya, my 2 tour guides noticed that we were all sad that our 4 day trip was coming to a quick end, so they said do you want to eat at a fun place that is near Pattaya (about 1 hour away) before we call it a day? I said sure – as I really like to see and experience new places. So, we stopped off at the Tamnanpar Resort & Restaurant – one of these many nearby Pattaya / Rayong restaurants that are tucked away in a jungle theme – various Thai friends have taken me to different ones as each Thai person swears that his/her’s is the best. Tamnanpar resort and restaurant Facebook page This place is famous for their unique game cuisine where you can eat ostrich, crocodile, snake, and deer. All was good and our random waiter was someone that my 2 tour guides already knew and were teasing him about his in-the-bed attributes – he was quite shy but willing to tease back my 2 Thai friends. I truly enjoy when the Thais do this to each other as it is very entertaining. Then they dropped me off at my condo room in Jomtien and our trip concluded. Trip summary: Would I go back to Koh Chang? Most certainly – it is a large island and there is still more to see. Especially to visit many of the many off-shore islands in the archipelago. Maybe stay for one more additional day to take some time to do kayaking. Any regrets? Yes, we did not have time to see the famous abandoned boat “ghost” hotel. Nation Thailand article on the famous "ghost" ship on Koh Chang Contact details (HORNET and Line) for my 2 Thai tour guides from the Dongtan volleyball field in Jomtien. They can be available to be a tour guide, companion, or masseur. permission was granted to me by the both of them to publish their details for all of you Also, come and visit them at volleyball (nightly from about 5:30 pm until 8pm to 9pm daily) – right next to the Sea Rescue in front of the Pattaya Park Tower on the beach road of our Dongtan beach. Phong Hornet ID is: @m-thailand Boat Hornet ID is: @13hq91

Gentlemen, I have just returned from Bangkok. My gratitude goes out to all who shared invaluable tips and travel insights, which I studied intently in the month leading up to my journey. Before this, my knowledge of Bangkok was limited to what I had conjured in my imagination, fueled by the song “One Night In Bangkok” that I listened to on repeat as a youngster. As my 30th birthday approached, I desired an adventure, something wildly enjoyable. Impulsively, I bought a ticket to Bangkok, setting off to create an impromptu plan for my trip a month or so before departure. Now, back in the northwest USA, I find myself grappling with jetlag, a mix of sexual exhaustion, euphoria, and a surge of existential mania. I'm ready to contribute my own story to the esteemed Gay Guides message board. My hope is that future travelers will gain insight from my experiences – both the successes and the missteps – or perhaps the seasoned veterans will find amusement in the account of a newcomer navigating the renowned sex tourism capital of the world. Prologue I am not new to international travel or to the company of escorts, having indulged in both across various continents. However, my experiences had never extended to Asia, a region that has always intrigued me, particularly due to my interest in Asian men. The distance and cultural differences were daunting, but now, having immersed myself in this new environment, I regret not making the journey sooner. In short, I am shaken. Day 1 The anticipation for this trip had been building intensely, fueled by the erotic tales from this message board. I meticulously planned my itinerary, including visits to famed MB Bars and anticipated massage experiences. The flight itself was an endurance test — over 24 hours of a dehydrating, cramped, and stuffy journey, catapulting halfway across the globe through numerous time zones and across the dateline, leaving me questioning the very fabric of reality. Stepping off the plane, my senses were heightened, and I found myself admiring the uniformed army men and security personnel while navigating customs. My fascination with Asian men was now confirmed as “a thing”. Prior to my arrival, I had arranged for a Siam Pride Limo Taxi, thinking it necessary to bridge the language barrier in this foreign land. My Day 1 in Bangkok began late at 11:30 PM. To my relief, I soon discovered that most people I encountered spoke excellent English, and that transportation would be one of the easiest aspects of my trip. Yet, there was a certain excitement in being greeted at the airport by an attendant holding a sign with my name, and then being ushered into an aged black car with tinted windows, driven by a middle-aged, fit, and stoically silent driver — perfect. The drive from Suvarnabhumi Airport to my hotel was shrouded in darkness, exacerbated by the tinted windows of the car. The surrounding scenery gave off a melancholic and almost sinister aura, reminiscent of my experiences in São Paulo with its vacant skyscrapers, trash can fires, and eerie silence. But considering it was midnight and I had been awake for over 24 hours, my mind was on the brink of implosion. Upon arrival at the Ibis Styles Silom Hotel, the mood shifted dramatically. The hotel was bright, modern, and welcoming, staffed by two cheerful attendants who provided exceptional service in perfect English. I chose this hotel as it seemed relatively close to the action and was about $40/night a bargain bin price for a 3-star resort that I would take any day. However, the room itself was quite compact and only offered a view of the hotels busy looking atrium. Nevertheless, I enjoyed the site of its jewel box glass shower nestled conveniently next to the queen bed and private toilet tucked in a separate room. The designer knew what he was doing. It was now 3 AM, and I had been awake for more than 30 hours. Weary yet restless, I checked into my room and immediately logged onto Grindr. The display of muscular, toned, shirtless profiles on my screen was overwhelming. The flurry of messages from eager locals was like nothing I had experienced in other gay neighborhoods. Focused on my purpose, I zeroed in on a profile offering “Massage” services. After all, this was Bangkok, and I was here to immerse myself in the famed experiences the city had to offer. The masseur, a youthful-looking individual probably in his early twenties, boasted a fitness model's physique, which was evident from his popular Instagram account overflowing with followers. This online presence served as a form of validation for me, and I decided to accept his offer for a 2500 Baht outcall visit. The fact that he was just a block away added to the appeal, as I was eager to get a glimpse of the streets and residential life in this new land. He was available - NOW! In a flurry, I quickly freshened up and made my way to his apartment. Upon arrival, I noticed he was shorter than I had anticipated, yet his physique was strikingly chiseled, likely around 8% body fat. He had a pleasantly shy demeanor and his English, while not perfect, was more than adequate. He walked me to his spartan studio apartment and we stripped down. The massage itself was satisfactory — and playfully frisky. He had mentioned it body-to-body and full release. I did not expect much more than a rub and tug, but after about thirty minutes, he went to town, going down on me. Oh wow. Then came the 69. He allowed me to poke and probe his entire smooth and boyish body with my tongue as he ravaged my cock with his mouth. Very good! A climax for both of us. I tipped him 500 baht, completely forgetting what I learned from this board on how to handle such a custom, and at 5AM, I returned to the hotel with the confident knowledge that Bangkok is the greatest city on Earth.

I took a 3-month trip this year across 11 countries and 23 cities in Australia, India and South-east Asia. My first time in all of them. And while the focus of my trip was scuba diving, attending religious festivals, seeing friends, hiking, sightseeing, food, etc., I was very eager to experience the boys in Thailand. Especially after reading this forum for the past couple of years. Admittedly, I met a lot of boys in all of the countries. But they were typical Grindr/Sniffies/HeeSay hookups. Thailand’s massage boys and go-go boys were something new. I typically don’t pay for sex, but am occasionally fine with it if it adds novelty and variety to my sex life. BANGKOK HOTEL - I stayed at the Grande Centre Point Surawong Bangkok. A highly-rated 5-star hotel near Silom 6 (a hub of gay massage boys and go-go boys). It’s a beautiful property and I’d recommend it to anyone. DAY 1 - I arrived around 10:00 p.m. It was a long travel day and so I decided to get some sleep and get an early start in the morning. But my brain didn’t cooperate. Even after taking one, then two, CBD sleeping gummies (which typically knock me out in 20 minutes), I laid wide awake in bed for hours. I got out of bed at 2 AM and decided maybe cumming would help. I considered jacking off. But thought, “Hey…I’m here for the boys…let’s see who’s on Grindr”. I quickly found a hot guy who was close by. A money boy. He asked for 2000 baht ($60) and I accepted. I was excited for my first Thai boy. When he came over I asked him where he was from. He said Loas. The in-person chemistry wasn’t fantastic for me, but I just wanted to cum and sleep. So I fucked him and passed out. DAY 2 - After meeting a friend from India for lunch and doing some sightseeing, I was excited for my first massage boy experience. I decided to go to Silom 6 after reading all of your posts. It seemed to have the highest concentration of massage boys. I sat in a lot of traffic getting to lunch, so I decided to try the metro. It was fast and easy. Highly recommend. Much better than the roads. Just as described in other posts, I searched for 9-teen Massage Silom-6 on Google Maps and it didn’t take long to find. There is a black and white 9-teen Massage sign you can see from Si Lom Road. I got there around 4 PM and there were multiple massage parlors on Silom 6 alley-street. Each with about a dozen boys dressed in black sitting in front of the door. I slowly walked passed each cluster of boys, deciding which boy I was most attracted to. In the end, it was a cute, fit twink from a place called Paradise Spa. The 60-minute oil massage was 895 baht ($28). We went up a few flights of stairs and he invited me to take a shower in the shower next to the massage table. The place was nice. When he came back, he wanted to start the massage but I asked if he could get naked first. He said, “you help me, I help you, $1500 baht ($45).” I agreed. He got naked. Gorgeous guy. Average-sized cock. I asked him where he was from. He said Laos. I wondered if I would ever meet a Thai boy in Thailand. Haha. The massage was fantastic. While he was working on my back, he poured massage oil directly on my asshole again and again and again and again. My ass was drowning in it. Hahaha. I’m sure he was just lubing up the runway, but, unfortunately, I’m a top. When it got to the fun part, I asked him if he is gay. He is not and is only a top. So we just kissed a little, sucked a little, and jacked off. I was happy with the experience…but learned (as many of you have suggested) that if I want to fuck a boy, ask if they are gay or agree to it before selecting them. I walked back to the hotel to rest for a bit and shower before coming back to Silom for a night of go-go boys. Because my time in Bangkok was limited, I spent an hour re-readingd many of your posts to see how to make the most of one night and went early to check the places out. I started with Moonlight. I was the first customer of the night. All of the boys quickly stood at attention when I walked in. Haha. The entry fee was 500 baht ($15). I sat down, ordered a drink (all drinks 400 baht whether water, beer, or cocktail) and looked at the 20-or-so boys rotating on stage, all wearing white shirts. After 10 minutes, I told the mamasan which one I liked. He came over. We started talking. I asked him where he was from and he said…Laos! LOLOL. I couldn’t break my streak. I ordered him a drink and we talked for a bit. No real chemistry for me. I went to pay for the drinks and told them this was my first night out in Thailand and I was going to see some of the other bars and I’d be back. They said the show would start and 10:45. I said I’d come back for that. I then went to Good Boys and was also the first customer of the night. A much smaller place, smaller stage. Not as nice, but I was attracted to more of the 20-or-so boys. All shirtless. I pointed to my favorite. He came over. He said his name was Lucas and he was from Myanmar. Gorgeous guy. Huge smile. Super skinny. Kind of giggly. It was fun to put my arm around his tight, shirtless torso as we talked. I got a little hard. I definitely liked this guy. I bought us each a couple of drinks and then told the mamasan I was bar hopping and would be back. He told me the show time. I told her I would return. Next, Fresh Boys, just above Good Boys. I went through the same motions…picking a boy, buying us drinks. This time I bought one for the mamasan. And at this point I was feeling a little drunk. I found out the show times and definitely wanted to be back for this show since their show was cocks-out. For the next four hours I bounced between Hotmale, DreamBoy, Moonlight, Good Boys and Fresh Boys meeting as many boys and seeing as many shows as I could. Here is the summary: I didn’t meet one Thai boy the whole night. Haha. All the boys were from Cambodia, Laos, Myanmar, Malaysia and Vietnam. At least the ones I picked. The Moonlight show was boring as fuck. I left early. The Good Boys show was regular drag show. You can see that anywhere. The Fresh Boys show was my favorite in Bangkok. Cocks out and somewhat playful. Most of them wore condoms, both during the show and when they walked around to get touched and tipped by customers. I only touched one cock without a condom. I thoroughly enjoyed myself and look forward to trying some new places next time. At the end of the night, I went back to Good Boys and paid the 500 baht ($15) off fee for Lucas. He was with another customer when arrived at 1:30 AM and I waited for 15 minutes for him to break away. He said he thought I wasn’t coming back. I told him he was my favorite boy of the night, by far. We agreed on a 2500 baht ($75) tip. He got dressed and we took a 4 minute tuk tuk ride to the hotel. He didn’t bottom, but I was fine with it. He was gorgeous. Fun to talk to. Playful. Open minded. Cute hard cock. We both showered and then got into a rhythm of playing for a while then talking for a while. I asked him if he liked the work. He said 5/10. Depends on the night. He told me he usually gets offed by 10 guys a month. Between that and tips at the bar, he earns $1500-$1800 per month. Alternative jobs would pay $300-$400 per month. His friend and former roommate is only offed by 4 guys per month. We finished by cumming in each other’s mouths, exchanging numbers and then Lucas told me his real name. I went to sleep happy. DAY 3 - My plan was to do a day trip to Pattaya and come back to Bangkok late evening. But I decided to read a bit on this forum just to refresh myself on how to approach everything and I realized it was a bad plan. All the fun in Pattaya happens between 10 PM and 3 AM, and it’s a 2 hour ride back. So I booked a hotel in Pattaya for the night. PATTAYA HOTEL - I decided to stay near Jomtien complex and chose the Poseidon Boutique Hotel. It was a great stay. Super sweet staff. Cheap. Nice room. Very affordable mini bar. My only suggestion would be to add a foam topper to the beds…but I could say that about 70% of the hotels I stay in. I walked around the Jomtien complex multiple times…looking for a massage boy I liked. Sadly, I didn’t like any. So I directed my focus to the evening. Like Bangkok, I wanted to get an early start to get a lay of the land. I hopped in a GrabCar and walked around the Boy Town area for a while. I saw all the straight bars and clubs along Beach Road and Walking Street. And then I walked to Nice Boys. As has been mentioned here, nice Boys no longer exists. It has been replaced by “Boys Nighclub”. I’m sure they meant Boys Nightclub, but that is how it is spelled on both of the signs. As of this posting, you can still find the location by searching for Nice Boys on Google maps. Most importantly, the format has changed. This was my experience… When I walked in at 8:00 PM the mamasan welcomed me and I ordered a drink. There were 5 guys on stage. I would describe all of them as rough looking. She explained the format and from what I understood I could pick the guy I wanted to cum and pay 500 baht ($15) each. I picked 3 out of the 5. I was confused when all three started to masturbate…but only one was jacking off in earnest. Eventually the two others stopped. Finally the first one came and then I understood it was a cum contest…only the winner got the 500 baht. Because the place was a bit seedy and the guys were rough, I was ready to pay for my drinks and leave. The mamasan assured me many more boys would be there at 9:00. I told her I’d be back. I then went to some of the other go-go spots in Boy Town. Toy Boy had the most boys I was attracted to. And I decided I would come back to make my final selections there. I bounced back to the Nice Boys / “Boys Nighclub” for one last look. The mamasan was right. There were now about a dozen boys now and two of them were smoking hot. Sadly, they were occupied by other guests. The hottest one by far, model material, sat to my left. He was jacking off behind a pillow, he didn’t want the other go-go boys to see (but I could), and he had a huge asian cock. Gorgeous cock. The guest would fondle his cock and balls behind the pillow…then the boy would get back to masturbating. The guest to my right had two boys jacking off and this is how his night went. The boy on the left would cum and he’d slurp it up and order a new boy. Then the boy on the right would cum and he’d slurp it up and order a new boy. For him, at 500 baht ($15) per cum shot, he could suck cum off their cocks all night like it was an all-you-can-swallow buffet. He didn’t stop the whole time I was there. I ordered my own boy. He was cute enough and had a nick dick. He quickly opened some straight porn and went to work. I was a touch drunk and lost some inhibitions at this point. Haha. I sucked him 3 times and when he came I thought “what the hell”, and slurped up his cum like the guest on my right. The more the merrier. I decided to wait to see if the hot boy to my left would eventually get free. I saw him cum earlier and thought he’d go back on stage. But the guest had his hand on his leg and wasn’t letting him go. I don’t know what arrangement they had. I waited and waited. Eventually the boy looked my way and we locked eyes. The dead look in his eyes was as if his soul left his body months or years earlier. And I decided to leave. X-BOYS - When I first walked in, about 9:45, there was a skinny, 75-year old American wearing a long-sleeved, khaki, Boy Scout shirt being lifted at the waist and twirled around by a muscled go-go boy. The man was in heaven. His eyes closed behind his glasses. Smiling. Ever so lightly caressing the boy’s back as he was spun round and round. After a while the boy set him down, he tipped him, and then he chose another willing muscle boy to give him another ride. We all have our thing. And then it was time for the show. OMGGGG! X-Boys was of the highlights of my trip, for sure. THANK YOU to everyone on this site who recommended it. I was there for both shows, the 10:00 and 11:00. And it was everything you said it would be. Rape scene, two shower scenes, orgy scene, mini-golf contest, fuck scene, eyes-wide-shut scene, hard cock scene, breakdancing, so many more…it was so well conceived and performed. It was Erotic. Beautiful. Fascinating. I didn’t want it to end. I was worried that if I pulled a boy down from the stage to sit with me it would mean he wasn’t in the show, and I was right. So I tipped, tipped, tipped the performers the whole night. Two of the drink-boys sat with me through the shows. A younger one by invitation and one in his mid-30s by self-invite. Haha. I bought both of them drinks, the mamasan drinks, a couple of the performers drinks and myself a few drinks. I was in heaven. I was kissing both drink-boys. Making out with the younger one whenever I could. Fantastic kisser. Both of them played with my hard cock (through my shorts) during the show. I regretted wearing underwear. I’m sure they would have put their hands down my pants if I invited them to. I should have. My drink tab was 3200 baht ($100) and it was money well spent. I felt so bad…the place was only 1/3 full for both shows and I wanted to do whatever I could to support them. During the fuck show the boys walked into the audience…while fucking…soliciting tips. I had already tipped both of them. When they came to me, I pulled down the jock strap of the bottom and felt his dick and then I felt the hard wrapped cock in his ass as they were fucking, basically on top of me. Wow! I tipped again. I wish more visitors would support these shows and the guys that perform in them. I’d be sad if we lost it…as it seems the world has lost so much from Bangkok/Pattaya over the years. I will absolutely go back anytime I’m in Thailand. My only suggestion for the show is for them to mix up the acts. I think that might be one reason for the low attendance. I think it might be the same show every night. But again, BRAVO boys for an amazing performance!! I think I could’ve stayed and had more fun with the guys at X-Boys post-show, but wanted to go back to Toy Boy to see who was on stage. TOY BOY - Also nearly empty of guests on a Sunday night, Toy Boy still had about 20 boys on stage just after midnight. I talked to the mamasan and asked which ones were tops and bottoms. I wanted a 3some and wanted at least one bottom and one top/vers. He had told me that they “had a room upstairs” where we could play. I thought that would be easier than going back to my hotel, logistics-wise, so I picked the two boys and we went. I paid 2000 baht each, plus a tip for the mamasan, I think. Haha. I was still a little drunk at this point. It turns out that the “room upstairs” is a hotel next door…they must have a by-the-hour arrangement with them. The three of us showered and jumped into bed. Both of them were giggling a bit. They’d never been naked together. It was clear very quickly that one was gay-for-pay straight and the bottom was gay. The three of us fucked around for about 30 minutes…but I was connecting with the gay bottom, “Tree”, in part because he could speak English, and in part because he was enjoying it, so I eventually excused the straight who was only going through the motions. Tree was Thai and a real sweetheart. We fucked and talked and talked and fucked. I know this was a paid exchange, but it felt like love making. He said he was finishing university in Bangkok and got into some sort of an accident. He’s the youngest in the family and his older brother and sister said he needed to do something for money. The accident exposed how vulnerable he was financially. His brother said, “I’m working at a bar in Pattaya…you should come work with me.” He didn’t tell him what kind of bar. Haha. So Tree showed up to work the first day and was like, “What the fuck?”, but he eventually decided he liked the work and is still doing it. I asked Tree if his gay-for-pay brother still worked at the bar. He said yes. I asked, “what would you have done if I had randomly picked you and your brother for a 3some tonight? Would you do it? Enjoy it?” Initially, with a mischievous, horny smirk, he said yes. But then later when I asked again he said no. He didn’t want sex to ruin anything between them and, of course, I respected his answer. Eventually we both came and exchanged numbers. We’re still talking. I got a ride back to the Poseidon Boutique Hotel from a friend I’d made that night. An owner of a restaurant. It was 2:30 AM. I decided to walk around the Jomtien complex to see what was happening. All of the bars were wrapping up for the night. I popped into three bars and talked to a few guys. Then decided to call it a night. I was walking back to the Poseidon hotel and there was a group of guys sitting at a table on the street, close to the hotel. I said hi to all of them as I passed. I locked eyes with one. A hot 20-something wearing a yellow, L.A. Lakers jersey. I walked another few steps and turned around to look. He was standing up…staring in my direction. I thought, “If a guy stands up for you, you should go talk to him.” So I did. All of his friends were like, “OOoooooo-ooooooo”. After saying, “hey”, I asked, “Do you want to go up with me?” And he said yes. As we walked away, all of his friends went “OOoooooo-ooooooo” again. Haha. We immediately went up and both got in the shower. OMG. This guy was drop dead gorgeous. A 27 year old from Myanmar, he works at a bar in Jomtien. He was bright, funny, spoke great English, was brimming with muscles. And his cock! The biggest I’ve seen on any asian. Hard as a rock. I asked about his position…he said vers. I asked if we wanted to bottom and he said yes. We kissed hard for a while, talked for a bit, started fucking…and in missionary position I asked if he was HIV positive (normally something I ask earlier on). He said he was. I am on prep and he said he was undetectable, so we kept going. He said he used to be a money boy and used to do meth. He didn’t know if he got it from the sex or a needle. But he’s absolutely focused on his health right now. And it was clear that he was. We kept having fun and he came while I was fucking him. What a night! I’m so glad I stayed the night in Pattaya. DAY 4 - Just a few things of note: The floating market in Pattaya is a waste of time. I’m sure there are others in Thailand that are authentic and amazing. This one is a tourist trap. Nothing is real. IMO, the beaches weren’t that great in Pattaya and there are a lot of posts online about how dirty the water is. If beaches are a driver to visit here, head out to an island for a day. Better beaches and cleaner water. I got screwed by “The Limo Pattaya” service recommended on this site. We set up a time. I confirmed the day before. The time came. I reached out 20 minutes before to confirm the driver was coming. Nothing. I called and he said, “Give me a minute. Let me look to find a car in your area”. What?? Why did you confirm the day before? WHAT are you confirming the day before? That you will look for a car in my area 20 minutes before my pick up time? Then he wrote and said he couldn’t find a car. Anyway, super frustrating. Grab was the same price. I’ll just use Grab in the future. On the way back from Pattaya, I decided to stop by Zoo Spa and Onsen. BREAKING NEWS - they’ve moved! Next door. I’ll post a photo of the new place. The guys are gorgeous, but the massage and the tip is 2x to 3x as much as you’ll find in Silom 6. Between the premium price and the 45 minute wait for the boy to arrive (in-call only) and not knowing if there would be in-person chemistry, I decided it wasn’t worth it and left. I went back to Silom 6 to see if there were any massage boys I liked. There were four, but they were all straight. So I said “no thank you” and went back to the hotel and had a hot (free) Grindr hook up with a sexy 30 year old Thai bottom. DAYS 5-10 I went to Phuket for 3 days. Had an incredible time on the islands. Only Grindr hookups here. I then went to Chiang Mai for the Loy Krathong “Festival of Light” / lantern festival. FYI - the sanctioned, out-of-town lantern event was chaos x Chaos x CHAOS. I’ve never experienced a clusterfuck of that magnitute in any country. Sexwise, for me, Chiang Mai was a mix of Grindr and HeeSay hookups. And one go-go bar named Adam’s Apple Club. I was there for two hours during prime time. I’d give it a 3/10. Mostly because the guys are average looking, the go-go scenes are cliche and uninspired, and, according to the mamasan, all straight. (I like gay bottoms who are into being bottoms). I spoke with a guest who moved to Chiang Mai 20 years ago. He’s being going to Adam’s Apple for-e-ver and has known most of the models for 7-10 years. To me, that explained why the performers were just going through the motions. They’d done the same thing every night 1000s of times. I don’t blame them, but I didn’t find it enjoyable. He also said he gets massages for 250 baht ($8). I always paid more…but I’m not a local. And that mot of the straight go-go boys at Apple will do anything you want…you just have to agree in advance. I felt a number of hard cocks (no condoms here) and tipped the boys as they walked around. But I wouldn’t go back. And that was my time in Thailand. I hope you found some of trip report informative and entertaining. My advice to first-timers in Thailand: Read this forum and get familiar with everything before you go. There is a lot to learn and things are changing all the time. Download the Grab app for car transport. It works just like Uber. Download Line for texting. It works like WhatsApp. Take the metro as often as you can in Bangkok. Big time saver. Get familiar with how each massage place works. Many have boys on demand. Some are in-call, reservation only. Contact those places on Line in advance. Because Bangkok is so big, I’d combine sightseeing with checking out massage places. For example, the Chatuchak weekend market is somewhat close to BT House Men Massage and Gbeat Massage. Would I ride the metro for 30 minutes just to go and check out a few massage boys? Probably not. Would I walk a few blocks after the weekend market to see which boys might be available? Yes. I suggest creating a physical or digital map with all of the sightseeing spots, restaurants and massage places you might want to visit, and leverage the proximity. In Pattaya, for your hotel, I would decide, “would I rather take a boy to my hotel from a bar in Jomtien complex or a go-go boy from Boy Town?”, and pick a hotel near that spot. They are both relatively close, but I’d rather not have to deal with finding a taxi late at night for a hookup. Don’t miss the X-Boys show in Pattaya. It’s totally worth going to both shows. You may consider wearing no underwear and some loose shorts if you want to get a little drunk and handsy while you enjoy the erotic performances. I loved my first trip to Thailand. I may be back next year. : )

Day 2 First full day and kind of quiet. After energetic night and jet lag still lingering I took it easy. D and me had breakfast at Foodland of all places and parted ways. As it happened I did not see him anymore this trip even if visited Tawan quite a few times, Perhaps he went home or it was just bad luck. I had some dental work to do at Thai Smile. Passing by I stepped in just to book an appointment but doctor was expected to be free in few minutes and since I had money on me I just wait and had it done . Then feeling bit sleepy decided to energize myself with massage so went to soi 6 and Nut from Maha spotted me approaching from mile away and grabbed me right away. Sweet , talkative , tiny but very muscular guy and I was happy with our 1.5 hr session. Massage made me hungry so I took motorsai to Charoen Krung soi 49, you guessed rightly to Madrid Tavern for my first pizza this trip. Late afternoon jet lag made me wanting badly to get some sleep so I returned to the room, set my alarm for 21.00 as I was supposed to pick up Y at Moonlight as agreed yesterday and collapsed on the bed. It was good idea with that alarm since I was sleeping soundly. After making myself looking decent – in Thailand I have habit to shave just before I hit bars in the evening and went to Moonlight. Y was there already , I bought him a drink and told him we will go after the show. At 10 pm bar was almost empty bar even if it was half an hour before show. But models and floor boys soldered on regardless. By 11 filled up nicely to about half capacity. Show quite decent. There, s new model, I guess his nick is Sam or similar. Quite handsome . Several new, floor boys, as well. Lack of crowds did not mean disaster as some high spending farang was holding court and was distributing tips by a handful. Y when sitting with me asked by said farang to join for round of drinks. Y asked my permission and he said for 15 minutes only. I agreed and it was a good move costing me nothing. After 15 minutes, and gulping 2 or 3 shoots he was clutching in his fist no less than 900. So it seems that sparse crowd doesn’t mean financial disaster. All depends. On another hand during my time there i.e. 10 to 11.45 my off was only one and I was, sitting in good position to see comings and goings through the door. So at 11.45 we went to Happy Beer Garden to have some meal, no prize for guessing what I had. Y ordered something simple as well which can’t be said about most boys I used to invite there. Since Raya is across the street few minutes after paying the bill we were already in the shower. Y never disappoints and did not even try to this time either. 2nd night and 2nd great one. Will I ever get decent sleep while in Thailand?

This recent trip was the longest I've stayed in Thailand (nearly a month) and was enjoyable despite some random health issues that decided to pop up. Rather than a day by day account, I'll just outline some interesting points. Bangkok Bars Dreamboys: I went here a few times, mainly to see my favourite boy and managed to off him just once. I think he is popular because on another two occasions I visited the bar, he was already booked by a customer. I felt as though the quality has dropped since last time, but there are still some gems. Screwboys: I was surprised by the high quality here actually, and there were lots of good choices to my taste. I had a short list of two, and it so happened to turn out that they are brothers (and Vietnamese). Took the older one first, and his English skills were really good and he was quite charismatic. The following night I went with the younger brother. Both were satisfactory, nothing earth shattering but an enjoyable time nonetheless. Mamasan was helpful and wrote down the badge numbers of boys that could do my requests. Freshboys: Didn't off anyone here, rather just watched the show and had a drink. I liked the choices here though, lots of toned twinks. Tawan: Just went here for the show as the boys here are much too big for me. Really relaxed atmosphere (although packed in like sardines), and the most x-rated show with a fucking show and jerk-off show amongst others. There were a couple of smaller looking guys in the rotation that would have been suitable for me, as well as the waiter. Banana bar: The majority of the show is katoeys, but they are the most stunning I've seen in all of the bars. The boys don't get much stage time, but I did spot one that I had offed previously when he used to work at Freshboys so we had a drink together. Smoking is allowed in this bar so you will smell like an ashtray when you leave. Moonlight: Went mainly for the show, which is very tame these days. Lots of good options in the rotation though, plus there are the models. Hotmale: A good line up here, and a good show (with very nice dicks). I went back with a Cambodian guy and he was lots of fun. Jupiter: Firstly, very impressed with the quality here. All model material and I could have easily gone with any of them. Mamasan told me the off fee and expected tip for boy, which he said 3000 for short time which I thought was a little on the higher side but maybe because they are models, the higher tip was expected. Or inflation. I ended up going with a nice Cambodian boy, sex was pleasant (but not earth shattering), and afterwards when I gave him 3000 he asked 'is that all?' I was confused, so then he said his rate was 5000. I was dumbfounded. To avoid any conflict I offered 4000 which he accepted. Note to myself for future, to always ask the boy what his tip expectations are, even if you know what the market price is. Kinda left a sour taste in my mouth, but this doesn't reflect so much on the bar itself. You live and you learn, and I'll put it down as an expensive mistake. Sol: The only bar I didn't manage to get to, but there is always next time. Massage Prime: I went here quite a few times, as I always do, and it's always high quality and run like a well-oiled machine. Advance bookings are required, although I think they are getting a little quieter now that high season is slowing down a bit. Jey Spa: My first time here. I booked in advance a boy who I had been admiring for quite some time, and I was really happy I finally met him. Exceeded my expectations too. Facilities are quite nice, and they are very responsive on Line. Senso: Only my second time here. The boy that I had last time was on vacation, so I chose another who was smiling and waving at me. He was a lot of fun and definitely worth a repeat when I come back. Kman: Last trip I had an excellent time here, so ended up booking the same boy and had an excellent time again. Prices here are much cheaper, but I tip generously. Hotels Quarter Silom: Good location. The rooms are a little small but well-presented, and with some interesting lighting controls. Rooms are not sound proofed, so you will hear everything. This hotel attracts I think mostly gay clientele, and there is lots of eye candy. Crowne Plaza: Probably my most favourite hotel in the area, but it does come with a hefty price tag. Very quiet, and very guest friendly. I came in late one night with boy in tow, and a manager-like person even pressed the elevator button for us. Le Siam: It's decent, and I did like staying on the other side of Silom Road for once. There are heaps of food options on Convent road which was great. Room size was okay and it is a little dated, but the price point was appropriate. Other things of note I finally met the esteemed @vinapu in person! My first forum member I have met, and we had lunch at Happy Beer Garden, whilst having pleasant conversation. Nice to meet you! To be continued...

Day 8 , last After my guy left I had good sleep till late morning , them went for breakfast and returned to the room to pack up. Earlier I asked about the option of late check out as my plane leaves at 7.pm but I was told by lady who seemed to be in charge that there are no rooms available. Considering that other guy , manning laptop in the lobby seemed sympathetic to my query and I notice strange grimaces sent his way by said lady I think they simply did not want to bother. No problem although it would be nice to have room till , say 4 pm. I found solution, left my bag on reception and went to soi 6 to have massage at Maha with diminutive hunk there , Nut. Great , no rush session. At 3 pm my last chicken and rice soup at Foodland, minutes later reader joined me for latest gossip and he walked me to mouth of Convent Road here we had our good bye hugs hoping to see each other very soon. Train to the airport was very crowded but no surprise there considering it was peak hours. At 7 something pm my Gulf Air A321 took off on its way to Bahrain with me inside waving good bye to Thailand for 36th time. In sharp contrast with September this time I was leaving with bleeding heart. Considering what brought me there I was in need of something uplifting and this time guys delivered , one after another. Even bump mid trip with underdelivering Banana guy, mostly on time , was not that painful. Who would think that my best guy will be from Jupiter ? Even now , week later I’m kind of amazed . And I still have my sights on another hunk from there, one who mildly pissed me by not confirming his tips with smile but I’m not giving up on him for two reasons, first he was recommended to me by forum friend I absolutely trust judgment of, second because he looked much better in flesh than on pics and clips I saw of him before .So it looks for my next trip whenever it will be I have my homework already assigned , I’m not giving up that easy. I’m glad that Handsome Cambodian with whom I have long history of offs , not all of the happy – once he dumped me after I complained about his constant surfing on his phone , looked happy and somewhat settled. I have soft spot for him because of his troubled , early orphaned life. Chai, new discovery in Arena was joyful and I cherish sense of achievement of finally being engaged with #10 from Moonlight and #31 from Banana I pursued for some time. Very uplifting fact that all bar one of boys I known previously bar that I engaged this trip performed , I must say even better than previously. No games , no stupid excuses ( I overlook last night because I have feeling it was not malicious ). Only think I feel sense of missing was another meeting with Y from Moonlight but simply our schedules did not align. Those familiar with my report perhaps notice one , so far always present , thing missing - absence of visit to Tawan. Yes it was on design. I still love bar and it’s boys dearly but this time I was in no mood to partake in their constant ‘ tip, tip, tip “ requests. Even when I had chance meeting with K on that famous corner , he immediately raised his shirt and asked for ‘ tip for eating “. I wish them well and hope to visit in the future but this time I gave them a miss and I ‘m glad I did. How far I went from days when my trips were on Tawan monodiet ? But not my fault. Life is strange thing. One week you attend your best , lifelong, friend’s funeral, next you have week of your life and one of best of my many trips to LOS. I love you life !

Second visit to Bangkok 15/11/25 So this is my second only visit to Bangkok and my first trip report. I will try to do an update every three days or so as I am taking my time and won’t have much to add on a daily basis. Staying at the Hilton Millenium a little out but only 15 minutes to Sala Daeng and 100 bhat in the taxi back from Soi 4 so not too bad and I like the full service hotels and have points so that’s another reason I use the hotel, also no issues taking people to room. First night I did not realise was Loi Krathong so the hotel was full with youngsters in traditional dress taking there Lantern’s down to the pier to put in the river, very nice to see. To take away the stress of the first night I had a boy from Dreamboys who I offed twice on my fist visit come for the night, we have stayed in touch since February so was nice to see him, go to Icon Siam for a meal, the place was very busy and then have first night fun, he headed home after a large breakfast. Hilton dose serve a very large and good spread. Saturday was a lazy day about 8pm went across to Soi 2 and 4 and had a walk around the area to familiarise myself with the various locations, I have to say I find shamelessmack maps very useful in this. Was early about 8.45pm but decided to have a quick look inside The One, funny thing I went to Tawan in February but it was the night the police had closed the place so just found a locked shop. It was probably because I was too early, but I was the only person in the place, three models on the stage and everyone else on their phones completely ignoring me, all older 30 plus nothing toned more solid / some weight. I finished my 500 baht coke and left within 5 minutes. The guy outside who had taken me in then offered massage and sex but he was not my type, same as the guys in the shop so declined and headed off to I think Soi 2. I called in to Dragon and Koi, again this is about 9.20pm so still early, couple of people in the bar had a cocktail (395 baht) and a beer (130 baht) and was joined by one of the servers from Myanmar who spoke quite good English. Let me know he would be one of the dancers that night but I would miss him as by 10pm I was heading to Freshboys for the remainder of the night. Freshboys (10pm show started at 10.30pm) the boys where on stage in their white shorts doing the normal parade, all twink / twunk most nicely toned and my type. Did not think I was going to off anyone but decided to buy number 16 a drink and he stayed with me for the rest of the night, apart from going back on stage on three occasions. Very affectionate and with a fantastic hard body all muscle from Vietnam. The place got busy as the show started and was full of people, having to squeeze in by about 10.50pm. There were only three Diva songs (same person) which where quite good as well as the big dick show, shower show and at least two sets where oral sex was performed so I thought a good show. By the last parade at about 12.30am my boy had not been offed so after enjoying him for the best part of two and a half hours I changed plans and offed him for the night. Quick bite to eat at Foodland. Walking past Dragon and Koi it was definitely more busy with a dance show going on two boys on the floor and three on the bar, but you would think at that time on a Saturday night it should be. Lots of fun with my Vietnamese boy for the night he left after having breakfast. This has gone on far too long so will stop at day two. Hope my writing style is ok, having read a lot of trip reports I find it difficult to know if this is any good or waffle. Feedback and suggestions welcome.

Day 12 Today we repeated yesterday’s morning routine, breakfast was quite pleasant affair as I noticed few other patrons including few young girls were following S when he was picking his food and drinks and I swear I was object of their jealousy having landed such handsome guy in jeans showing quite a nice bulge. Doubt anybody was thinking ‘ oh that’s is guy with his grandson” . I did not mind S sending some smiles toward those girls fully knowing who winner is, let them have it. Today’s destination is Sambor Prey Kuk, temple complex predating Angkor with most temples made not of stone but of bricks from 7th century on, located near Khompong Thom , half way to Phnom Penh. It took us 3 hours to get there. Entry is 10$ , they suggested hiring guide for the same amount and I agreed . She even dragged with her another girl- guide in training. Having guide there is good idea as objects are dispersed in the forest , trails are well marked but still on you own one may miss this or that. It took us about 3 hours to visit every corner, I tipped that trainee 5$ then we went to local restaurant for a meal , 16.50 $ for three, not a bad deal . Again long trip home , fortunately today Saturday traffic was quite light and it was driver suggestion we go there on Saturday as he was afraid Sunday traffic will be heavier. At home S suggested artistic part – dinner with Apsara traditional dance show on Pub Street so we went there. I like when my travel companions have own ideas not only asking “what we are doing now ? ”. At the table beside us young farang couple was sitting and I noticed both of them were paying an attention to S presence . Bit later when we had chance meeting on the street they even said " Hi " to him ignoring me entirely. You can't imagine how my fragile ego was hurt at that moment I meantime S got message from his bar friend , Siem Reap native, who came to see his folks at home and when he show me his picture it turned out I also know him from 2 long time offs, one threesome included. So we went to see him , he was dining with another boy and somebody suggested ‘lets go check Barcode “. I offered to finance that escapade but at the door we were sent away- today bar closed for some private function. Other two boys said they are going to bed and that was idea S and I borrowed from them so we parted ways every couple marching to different bed. I had another senior moment – why I did not suggest “ lets go all to our room”. Knowing that friend there was chance idea would be approved. Oh well. S and me still managed to had some fun including feasting on some pistachios and fruit while sitting naked on balcony right above hotel’s pool closed at that hour.

Hello Everyone I'm devastated to have just returned home from a trip to BKK. I hadn't been since 2019 and definitely made up for lost time. It was sad to see Soi Twilight gone since I was last there, but also exciting to see new (and old) bars sprouting up across the street. I don't do massage places, so this is just some notes on the bars I visited Dreamboys Dreamboys (original) was the first bar I ever visited in BKK, and we've made a tradition of always visiting here on our first night. I always remember this place more for its crazy shows - like where the big inflatable cock squirted water over everyone. That seems gone now sadly. New venue is a good size. Boys are of mixed type. I'm concious from other threads that the owner fired non-Thai boys. I met one Viet working in Fresh Boys who said he had been let go from Dreamboys recently, but didn't elaborate, so this might be related. Jupiter Probably the bar that excites me the most and frustates me the most in all of Bangkok. Most of the guys here are undoubtely gorgeous - straight looking, athletic, confident types - some very good looking. This bar has a slightly cooler atmosphere to it. Some members complain about perhaps the boys being too... modelly. I get that. But they work for me. I have to say that their shows are the sexiest. I find most bars don't use best looking boys for the shows (maybe the best looking boys are not the best performers) but in Jupiter, the guys performing are great. The guys are all shirtless and will do 3 or 4 parades around the bar - sometimes in pants, and sometimes in jeans. Always seemed to be busy. We visited 3 times - even early in the week at 10, and could barely get a seat! But I find this place frustrating because the best looking guys almost always seemed to be taken quickly (or reserved) by high-rollers, VIPs, or rowdy tables of young women. Only on the last night, did one of the mamasans show any interest in asking us if we we wanted anything. He took me "shopping" backstage to find boy I liked. Worked out in the end... On a side note, a couple of guys I was interested were performers, but did not wear numbers on their jeans on the final "walk" of the night. Could not tell if they were simply non-offable performers, or perhaps if they were already taken. Does anyone know why they walk without numbers? On a second side note - some v cute, young-looking waiters - with numbers. Strange mix. I would imagine that the people coming to see the guys at Jupiter, would not be interested in this type. Moonlight I like the atmosphere in this bar. Even on a late weekday night, the place was busy with all kinds of customers, and everyone excited to see the performers. I have to admit, I had grown tired of seeing all the usual "superstars" in pics and videos online. But they still put on a great show. And seeing Babe perform again in person - he is beautiful. That smile! The selection of boys is good looking - feel like they have a similar vibe to Jupiter - the kind of guys young female tourists want to drink with. Most wore jeans & t-shirts. Tawan Only visited here once. Only ever visit here once on any trip. I take a notion to see these big guys out of curiosity, but ultimately bodybuilders are not my type, and the show is too rough for me - it had whipping, cigarettes, wax etc. As some members have pointed out, I did see one twink here - but he seemed to be the bottom for the muscle boys. He got carrieed around the room, table to table, for tips, while being f*cked. Fresh Boys Really liked the selction of guys here. Almost totally twinks (some twunks). All shirtless. They did a big cock show where they whack their dicks against a metal pole. Ouch. Hot Male Only visited here once, briefly, after midnight. The guys were attractive and nice bodies. I didn't see much of interest for myself, but I don't want to say its indicative of the bar, given how late I visited. Screw Boy First revalation of the trip. I don't know why I didn't visit here on previous trips. I sometimes got a sense from this forum that this bar was seedy or low class or something, so I was never really inclined to go. We ended up here somewhat accidentally when, after leaving a last minute, post-midnight trip to Fresh Boys, empty-handed, a hawker grabbed us surreptitiously on the staircase. "Show at 1!" So we went in. Really liked this place. I was delighted, not just to find a bar that opened later than the others on this street (they do shows at 1 am), but it had lots of really cute young guys, a fun atmostphere (opposite of cool atmosphere of Jupiter), 2 fun, friendly mamasans, good music and also a young male performer who looked like he could be an idol or something (later discovered he is a male performer on the Ladyboys of Bangkok tour). The guys all wore matching white baseketball outfits. Visited here 3 times. Banana Bar Second revalation of the trip. I was not going to go to this bar because there was nothing written about it in the forums that made it particularly stand out to me. But I was left alone by my friend one night of the trip because of a business meeting. After a drink alone at Connections Bar on Soi 4, I decided to wander in and had a great night. Beautiful ladyboys and performers, who had toured the UK as part of "The Ladyboys of Bangkok". Main performer very handsome. Waiters were friendly. And also I was startled to meet the mamasan here who used to work in X-Boys. I spoke to her about some of the changes since I had last been here. Of course a lot of money was spent. Amateur. Went back second night, but attention was on a VIP table. Mamasan told us same customer had spent 100k tips on a previous night. Wow. Had the same big cock pole whacking show as Fresh Boys. G's Third revelation of the trip. Sorry, I know this isn't about a bar - but I had never been to G's restaurant before on Soi 4. My friend and I went one night and got German/Thai fusion dishes which were delicious. Fully intended to go here again, but didn't due to other commitments, but this will definitely be a stop for dinner on the next trip. Recommended! Did not get to visit Sol or New Twilight unfortunately. Frustations with "Line" - had line contact for one of the Moonlight stars but when I logged into a very old account, it wouldn't let me add new contacts. So I tried to sign out and back in again, but said my account was blocked for 58 days. End of that adventure. Very sad and exhausted to be home now. But hope you enjoy my notes.

Set out for 9p.m. appointment at the most recent massage shop to open in the area: Phoenix. It was a pleasant and dry evening, perfect for the leisurely 25-minute walk. When I arrived on Inthamara 25, quickly located shop but it was closed. Puzzled because I’d made appointment, I texted shop on LINE and they sent me map link. It was all in Thai and nothing at all looked familiar. I followed with another text saying I’m on Inthamara 25 and shop answers, “sorry, we move to Lat Phrao 110.” Result: one disappointed customer and one disappointed masseur. Now in need of a sure-thing fix, I backtracked and headed for Phetboy and booked same guy from last Saturday who didn’t disappoint. I was a bit slow in cleaning up after and told guy to go to shower and I’d soon follow after checking phone. When I got to shower room, I opened door and placed towel on rack and ran a hand down boy’s back. Suddenly realized his tattoo had changed design and he seemed to be taller. He turned around with a surprised but amused look. Yes, it was a different masseur. Embarrassed, all I could think to say was “sorry. He was just finishing up and toweling off. Couldn’t help but noticing that he was very well equipped so I asked for his name. He told me, turned and disappeared. I was sort of hoping that find him downstairs but he had vanished along with what remained of my pride.

I typed this out and accidentally clicked the back button losing it all, then I typed this out in notepad to paste here. When I came back it said “previous comment restored” it was all back! Great feature. But I had already restored the below Monday I woke up bit later which was nice, I was on Grindr and talked to another tourist who was staying in my hotel, we hooked up for a quick session. After I took some of my shirts to get laundered. I did not bring enough shirts. It is very hot so I end up sweating and changing a couple times per day. So I recommend bring extra! I then decided to do the Hop on and off tourist boat, it was only 150 baht, Mac did show me how to use the regular boats but I liked the convenience of this predetermined route, I visited icon Siam again, where I went to the atm at a bank on the five floor to get some more cash. I then took the cash inside to have the 1000 baht notes broken down into smaller bills, I did this before and is much easier than breaking these large bills at places like 7-11. I visited wang lang market which I thought was a great inexpensive market. I bought a few clothing items. They also have second hand items if someone is truly looking for a bargain. I visited Chinatown, the amount of shops can be overwhelming but it was a fun walk. I also visited khaoson road, the amount of tailors approaching you for custom suites, shirts is astounding. I was asked more for a suit than a massage :p. I returned to my hotel around 6:30, tourist from Grindr messaged me asking if I wanted another quick session, I said sure and had some quick fun. I showered and relaxed in my room, it started to rain and I was debating wether or not I wanted to even go out in this, around 9:30 the rain died down to a drizzle and I decided I would venture out. I did not want to walk in this rain so I decided to get a grab car. While riding I was thinking about buying umbrella, I thought during the rainy season it might be wise for the drivers to carry some to sell to tourists they could make some extra money as I’m sure we would pay a premium. I walked through patpong market looking to see if anyone selling umbrella but wasn’t bothered if they didn’t. I made my way to the one bar, with the help from my previous post. I arrived just before 10. The promoter asked me to come in I said sure. It was a very small bar. They sat me in the middle directly in front of the stage. If I reached out with my arm I could touch the guys on stage. That’s how close it is. I thought there was 10-12 customers when I entered with two guys posing on stage. I realized after short time there was actually only 5 of us customers the rest were bar boys. The guys asked next to me, who worked there, was very pushy. Kept asking who I liked, this one younger, you like him, I kept stating I’m just looking for now, two different guys now went on stage and posed, they did not seem interested. This place was brightly lit, very small. I was not comfortable so I decided to leave around 10:15. The guys are more muscular and a bit older than the other bars I’ve attended. There was definitely a couple guys I was attracted to, but as I said the atmosphere ruined it for me. The entry fee was 500 baht, which you pay before entering, and includes one drink. Next I thought about going back to fresh boys but I wanted to try something new, so I went downstairs to good boys. This time the promoter outside asked me if I wanted to come inside, show is on. I said sure. He opened door and mamasan greeted me and took me to a table one row from the back. This place is bigger. Not as brightly lit and was packed with customers when I got there, two tables even had guys with bottles and multiple bar boys. The show was you going on and there was a drag performance. After a couple of the boys did a strip tease, followed by a light bdsm performance where two boys danced in their underwear with their hard cocks showing, after which they removed. One boy was hitting the other with a pool noodle. Another drag queen performance. I myself enjoy drag performances and these ladies definitely lip synced well. One of the mamasans came around to me, there was three of them, she asked if I liked anybody I said I am still looking she said okay let me know if you like anybody, after show they will be on stage and you can see, she told me they had boys from multiple countries not just Thai. I felt like she wanted me to:have good time and wasn’t just pressuring me to off one. Next up was big cock show, they showed off on stage then after came into audience to show off their goods. One cute boy approached me and I tipped 100 then another, and another, I wasn’t really interested in any others I saw one of the mamasans saw me tipping and told a couple of the other boys to come see me, I tipped one more then I politely said no thanks when others came to me. They didn’t seem offended and simply moved onto other customers. A simple no thanks has worked at all the bars I’ve attended so far. After the boys went on stage. They all are wearing tight white briefs. I liked a few, the boys here feel a bit more slender and slot appear to be more feminine in their mannerisms. I was looking for a top and was a bit worried. Mamasan came around again and said which boy you like, I asked her for some info on number 16. She told me he do everything, top, bottom, you will like. I wasn’t confident in her answers and said thank you and decided to watch some more. Here it felt like the boys were not interested in me, only one or two guys looked back at me and smiled. The rest seemed disinterested overall. This is a turn off for me. If they are not interested in stage when trying to present themselves, how will they react back in my hotel room? I decided to leave for the night, I called mamasan over asked for bill. She said oh no you don’t like anyone, I explained there was one boy I liked but he was busy with another customer who bought a bottle. She said oh you show me. I showed her she said oh yea. She said I see what you like. I told her I might come back tomorrow, she asked me to stay for the next show but I declined, she told me to come and see her again tomorrow, I paid, tipped her and left. I liked good boys. Staff was friendly, atmosphere was nice, seats are dimly lit. Just wish the boys seemed a bit more interested, I will definitely return, maybe the boy I like will be available next time. I was thinking on heading back to my hotel as it was just about midnight. I walked a little further and fresh boys promoter saw me and said come inside show is on, o thought for a second but said sure. I went inside and it was about 3/4 full of people. Drink is 400. The boy I had offed previously was on stage in the show and he greeted me. I sat down and ordered drink and watched the end of the show. After the show he came over and greeted me. I tipped him 100 we chatted for moment, I asked him if anyone new was here who was verse that he could work with. He gave me two numbers. Then the papasan told him to rejoin a couple male/female who I guess bought him a drink before the show. So he left to join them. I was disappointed maybe they were gonna take him tonight. I looked on stage and a few of the guys where thrusting their hips at me, I guess he told some of these guys what I like, they didn’t really interest me. One guy was older and he kept trying to get me to buy him drink,I’m just was not interested. The couple who had my guy was paying their bill. I did not see him get dressed so after they left he came back to rejoin me. Papasan asked if I wanted to buy him drink, I said sure. So I talked to him about the guy he mentioned. We watched for him to come to the side of our stage. He was a little Twinkier than I like but I asked papasan for him to buy drink so we could talk. I picked him between the two numbers my guy gave because my guy told me his English was better. He joined me and asked me usually questions “where you from” “ how long you here” My guy said he was in next show he had to get ready I said sure, I talked to the new guy, I asked him position he said everything, he seemed nervous, he wasn’t here the night before. I told him I wanted to see my guy fuck him, then him do me, he said he was fine with that, I asked rate. He asked me how much I paid my guy I told him as I was fine with it and he said ok. So I decided to off them both. He went to go get changed I paid the bill. Then when he came back we cuddled while we watched the show, my guy was in show with the drag queen with simulated sex acts, I haven’t seen this before since both nights previously I left the bar with him before he performed this act. We got back to my hotel room, all showered. Nice thing about this room is the shower is big enough for all of us with a rainfall shower head, new guy was finishing up in shower while my guy and I discussed my days activities where I went. We had slot of fun with the three of us. Unfortunately my guy was too big for the new guy to take, he tried but I didn’t want to ruin the mood by having him continue, I was a bit disappointed but we all still had fun. In the future Im not sure how I would overcome this to ensure new guy would be able to fully perform. We all showered again I tipped them both and thanked them. Ordered some food and off to bed I went. At fresh boys after I picked two other guys trying to get us to do three, even one of the waiters showed me his number. I definitely could not do three haha. Are the waiters off able? I thought they just wore numbers to make it easier to know who helped you. Fresh boys definitely has some cute waiters. Should I try any other bars tonight? I’m thinking of heading to skywalk this afternoon then maybe to arena after.

Hey folks. I've enjoyed reading trip reports on here in the past (most recently CallMeLee's excellent thread) so I thought I would share my experiences. This is an on-going report, so I will update it as needed as the month progresses. I'm only including my experiences with moneyboys and the bar system, and won't include day-to-day activities or personal hook-ups. I will detail sauna visits in as much as possible. My interest in doing this is partially to understand more about the system and how to work it effectively. I can't help but feel like I'm being scammed when I compare these experiences with ones I've read in the past. Please share all that you know with me, and I'll try and answer any question you have. I am a younger caucasian male and my interest is in big cocks and muscular guys who enjoy flexing. While this may sound typical, most of the reports I've read are more Twink-focused and haven't been helpful in getting what I want. I also haven't seen many detailed reports about the system, just brief mentions. I hope to make it easy for everyone to understand. First Experience, Two Nights in Space: Having already been in Bangkok for a few nights, a friend from outside of the country decided to make a short stopover. I told him I wanted to go to Jupiter2018 and see the show and he agreed to join me. I did see the Jupiter show on a previous trip, but merely for the show itself- I was naive and even younger. I told my friend what I had remembered of the show in the past. The men in Jupiter were like boyband members, lean and muscular, with meager rhythm and mediocre talent. They would go on stage and preform a number, interspersed with drag performances, but they were often good-looking and charming. We arrived a little after 10:00 PM and I paid 500 THB in entrance fees for each both of us, for 1000 THB total. The bar was quite packed, and perhaps as clientele that didn't look like they needed to spend money (my friend is a well-built caucasian male), we got sat in the corner table left of the front stage. We had a partially obscured view, but the advantages would be apparent later. Once sat, a waiter comes up with a flashlight and a menu. A drink is included with the entrance fee, but it's non-alcoholic. You pay extra for that, are you surprised? That's fine with us as we want to see the show we weren't planning on drinking. We order a Coke Zero each. To me, the 500 THB fee is worth it for the show. I wouldn't recommend ordering a second drink though. Spend that money on something more worthwhile. I was actually giddy with excitement. While not particularly horny, I am always interested in seeing an attractive guy showing off his physique. Luckily the men met my expectations. Nearly all of them had lean, muscular bodies with several being substantially larger. Only one model was an average looking Twink, and I actually felt a little sad for him being surrounded by what was on stage. Many of the models had tattoos and gave a polished gang vibe, like they'd definitely slam you against a wall by your neck. Hot. My favourite thing about Jupiter is that you can see the gym equipment and watch the models pump before their performances. It's also a two-level stage, and models often hang out on the top portion and look down after they've done their walk. You can view them at a different angle. It's a good venue and offers more voyeuristic opportunities than any other. The show itself starts with the introduction of the models. They each come on stage, one by one, and walk along a track through the bar. It gives the crowd a good opportunity to see them up-close, and of course to offer them a tip if you want to get their attention. That's another positive about Jupiter, but I'll touch on that at the end. The performance continues with an act from 4 of the men. It's a dance number with okay choreography, but one of the models doesn't quite match up. The models perform with a serious, stern look. It's quite sexy and gives an intensity to their performance. After this, I'm approached by one of the many mamasans of the bar. My friend points out that he's pretty attractive himself. He's in his 40's but I agree, a retired performer himself? More feminine than most of the models though, but not overly. I'm asked which one I want and I'm surprised I'm given such an early pick. That's not my intention tonight though. I'm just here to watch the full show with a friend, and takes notes for a future visit. "All of them!" I say, smiling ear to ear. They take the hint and walk away. My friend says that he might take the offer in the future. I'm a little surprised as I didn't expect him to be open to it. We each talk about which ones are our favourites. My choices all have big muscles, big ears and tattoos. There are quite a few I would consider! Upwards of 8. Does Jupiter have the best roster, or should this be expected everywhere I go? I have my answer... you'll find out as the report goes on. The next performance has a model spin a hola-hoop around his waist in a beautiful, ferocious manner. The sheer strength and endurance of this performance arouses me to a great degree. My friend leans over and whispers, "Can you imagine him in bed?" I'm instantly rock hard. He is not my type physically, but he's added to the list. A drag performance is next. I know they're unpopular with a lot of you, but I honestly don't mind. You just need to have them scheduled appropriately. The pacing needs to be right. I don't walk into a bar like this to see 6 drag performances and 3 male model performances. Luckily Jupiter does it right again. The performance is good but not great, thankfully the queen can lip-sync as I unfortunately found out that's not a minimum requirement for a lot of these place. Imagine that. There is a drag performance immediately afterward, but this one is more of a mixed performance. The drag performer plays the role of "the woman" and a one of the models plays the role of "the mysterious man." He wears a trench coat with no shirt underneath and looks down, taking long drags from a cigarette as smoke envelops around him. The drag performer lip-syncs from above the stage as he stands on the lower stage, eventually stripping down and "showering." He shows an enormous cock very briefly and my friend and I are shocked. This man is immediately my number one choice as he fits every criteria I'm looking for. He's big and broad with ripped abs, has many tattoos, big ears and as we just witnessed, a massive cock. I'd estimate it at 8 inches and quite thick. As we are on the front side of the stage, we get quite a good look at it! I think I have done enough research. I have my choice, but not tonight. We slowly sip our drinks and no one bothers us again. They do sit another patron at our table. They approach him several times and eventually he's moved to a better seat. I tell my friend that it's because he's spending money. Surely enough, he's soon sitting with one of the models. The bar has several women in it tonight. One Chinese woman is dressed very nicely, and keeps buying shots for the models. She also places a 1000 THB ring around two of the model's necks. My friend and I question what this is. Is he the top performer? Is he off the market for the night? I found out that it's merely a way of giving a large tip. I was wondering why she was so special! Her attire threw me off. Was she attending a gala immediately afterwards? Did I see a diamond tiara on her head? Oh, no, it's just her radiant beauty sparkling from across the floor. Another patron in front of us gives a 100 THB bill to each performer as they walk past him. He gropes them with each tip and jiggles his belly with glee. He's a young Chinese guy. I keep this in mind for future visits. The show finishes off without any other memorable performances, and as the night goes on, the stage is filled with less and less models. One of the performances ends and then nothing else happens, so my friend and I assume the show must be over. I believe there is a second performance, but I can't imagine it would be as good. Who's left? Do they restock with a fresh set of faces? We both have to be up quite early tomorrow as we are taking a day trip together, so we quickly sip the remaining soda we have and we walk out. We say our goodbyes as we are staying in different hotels, in opposite directions. He says he enjoyed the show and would like to go to the other show I told him about, Tawan. I agree. I watch as he walks away and wait for him to look back. He turns the corner. All I see are night vendors. I pause for a moment, my cock twitches. I consider walking back in and bringing one of the models back home with me...

this is continuation of trip report from Thailand section at this link: https://www.gayguides.com/forums/topic/41442-better-to-be-retired-than-retarded-thailand-and-cambodia-in-january-2024-trip-report-brief-but-long/#comment-374666 Day 7 , Phnom Penh part. I had e-visa so immigration was breeze. I exchanged some money into riels as airport rates are only minimally lower than city ones ( 4000 vs 4065 for 1 USD). Some people don’t bother and are using dollars since Cambodia is practically dual currency country and is not unusual to pay 10 $ invoice with 6$ and 16000 riels ( 4 $) for example. Some places are quoting prices in riels , other in dollars but both currencies are accepted everywhere and only exceptions I know is visa on arrival and tickets to Angkor ruins where one must pay in USD exclusively. If you decide to bring dollars just make sure notes are intact without any tears , pinholes and writings on them, I saw 1 dollar banknotes rejected because of those infractions. I prefer to use riels with exception of big ticket items like boys’ tips as getting change from 50 or 100 $ bill may be problematic in country where dinner cost 5 $ and haircut 2$. Other airport purchase was SIM card for 1 week , it was 7$ if I recall correctly and then tuk-tuk to hotel for 9$. Those who want to save money on getting to hotel solution is to take bus from airport parking lot for 1000 or 2000 or leave airport area and get one of the waiting tuk-tuks outside for something like 5-7$ but I did not bother. Room was not ready so I went to Dolce Vita for lunch and returned in 1 hr to find everything ready. I stay in OK Palace hotel, twin of OK Boutique in the same soi where I stay last time. Entry to the hotel is palatial and so is room. Both hotels are in street 19Z, appendix like short soi across from National Museum and walking distance to Royal Palace and whole central area including my Phnom Penh headquarters Space Hair bar. hotel's entry view from the window sleeping machine and the room In the room I noticed I forgot phone charger in Bangkok and girl on reception suggested I go to Kandal Market where there are phone shops. Bingo indeed. Instead of walking 10 minutes I took tuk tuk for whopping 4000 and returned in style by cycle rikshaw for the same amount. After setting in I walked around admiring smells and sounds , bought tour to Killing Fields for tomorrow and at around 21.00 I walked to 136 street to my headquarters – Space Hair bar. I wish we had something like that in Bangkok although they operate on different formula . Staff are exclusively hunky and in shape – see sample from their recent Facebook. Almost all guys from the picture were present on at least one of three nights I visited there. As always almost means one was absent and that one was precisely one I wanted to see as we met already quite closely before. But if I don’t have what I like , I like what I have. Boys there are only to accompany you for drinks and talk. Forget about offs and off fees. Surely if you have designs on one or more you must be very , very discreet and be prepared for meeting absolutely outside working hours. Boss there , while very sympathetic is also very strict and serious about those rules. Cambodian Prince I had debacle with last year was fired on the spot for leaving 1 hr. earlier than scheduled and apparently only because he got drunk Drinks are not expensive 4-6 $ but if you get heated like me , they add up but this is cost of fun. Some guys are somewhat touchy-feely , others less so, kiss or 7 can be stolen after few rounds of drinks , hand and knee holding is available and generally is a lot of fun. Guys are not pushing you for drinks and absolutely no word of ‘ tip’ is spoken but obviously depending on time they sat with you and how long you were holding their knee or hand you should tip them. I gave 5- 10 $ to those few who sat with me for prolonged time. Drinks are what oils bar keep in mind so when boy empties his buy him another one or he may choose to, leave your table. But there are absolutely no situations like I had sometimes in Thai bars when boy gulped his drink in on ego and was looking for another one. It’s why I wish we have such bar in Bangkok. Easy , pleasant and no hard sell tactics. Not only boys got plenty of drinks but also myself so when I was leaving at about 2 am I was quite drunk and 90$ lighter , not to mention about 100 000 distributed for tips. But it was fun worth of every minute and every penny spent. Unfortunately I went home empty handed so to speak. I had designs on one of their boys but neither one of us was brave enough to start serious discussion. Before I went to bed for fun I checked Grindr and had “ Hi “ from quite attractive looking guy but had that senior moment and did not realize that this guy ( I’m notoriously bad reading people from pictures ) was indeed one I had designs on in bar. It only dawned on my next day in the afternoon. But by then damage was done. Not only I spent night in cold bed but also he figured out that I rejected him and was doing his best to show that he cooled to me. Oh well, lesson learned

Took Mike Taxi from Pattaya to BKK 1200 baht, driver showed up early, like always...was a female 😲 Had to stop for gas before leaving, why she wasn't prepared? Then restroom stop within 45 mins, wtf. Got to Tarntawan, feels like home here, I know all the staff. Was going to meet my German friend at Circus at 9pm, so I slept even though I wasn't tired..... Stopped by Hot Male on my way to Circus, didn't see Alex so I just kept going.....Circus was busy but not packed. Watched the drag shows from outside and talked to a couple of the host boys from Cambodia....My German friend that lives here usually wants to go home early, but we stayed until midnight, I was surprised, but he liked one of the Cambodia boys and he tipped him....he never tips boys, lol Did a walk around soi 6 from Silom as all the massage shops were closing and went to Super A....was late, sad and disappointing @reader maybe I was just too late 😟 Walked back to Hot Male and Alex was there, his night off but was drinking (surprise, lol) I like him so much. Went over towards ScrewBoys, everyone was outside because was a drag show on....I cruised and chatted with a few guys, one really got my attention. I told him to see me at Hot Male when he finished. He and a friend came over and said they were going to Banana Bar for after hours.....I went to my hotel to refill some cash (I don't have so many pockets) and went to Banana Bar, you'd never know anything was open on soi 4, was pitch dark..... went upstairs and found Screwboy guy and we hung out and got progressively drunk together. Invited he and his friend back to my hotel, but first a stop at Foodland for food.....then so much fun back at my room. We went on for HOURS....I hope to see him again tonight, I hope he's alive, he still hasn't read my line message. I woke up horny around 11am and checked Grindr...was some guy my type, said he was hanging out at Lumphini and would come for 1000 baht, no need to negotiate at that price. I waited outside of the hotel to make sure he looked like his pics....he did. 30 minute massage then we had some good sex, another one I'd see again, maybe tomorrow. The screwboys guys only asked for 1000 each if I went with both, was almost like 2 for 1 ..... First night was a good one....I hope the rest of the nights are as much fun.

Flew Singapore airlines flight from New York- Singapore, used miles for Business class- was a bucket list item- Longest flight in the world, solid 19hrs. I liked it better than dividing the trip in Tokyo, got way more sleep and then a 1:45 flight from Singapore to BKK instead of a 6-7 hr flight from Narita. Went to VIP immigration section upon arrival, was kind of full, I followed a Thai guy that just snaked his way in between everyone with kids, they were too busy taking care of the kids, that we went unnoticed. My bag was 1st one out and found Mike Taxi right away and off to Pattaya we went. Staying at the Ambiance, booked this a few months ago and got 5 nights in a king superior room for $97 usd....comfortable beds, nice towels and sheets, convenient to everything and the receptionists all know me.... Took awhile to defrost the frozen mini fridge, so lost whatever time gained in BKK, ADD about certain things 🙄 Walked around, stopped by Paradise massage and a few of the guys caught my attention....the one that spoke English, wasn't the best looking, but had something about him that attracted me to him, I asked him for a sample of his massage and it was really good....I told him maybe tomorrow, and went to Dreamboys to see a few guys I know to check on them. With the price quoted at Paradise, all in...seemed like a better deal than the go-go bars, so I asked the guy that since it was almost closing time, if he'd come to my hotel, obviously he said yes, he hadn't had a client in 2 days....( he's not THAT ugly). Did EVERYTHING that I asked, only didn't give me the full hr massage that he promised, so I explained to him that's how to lose repeat business, over stupid shit. He promised to make it up to me if we go again, let's see...I'd go with him again. Grindr is very active...it's 5 am, I'm ready to sleep....tomorrow my plan is Jomtien about 2pm for manicure/massage on the beach then try Sansuk about 5-6pm and maybe another round with the Paradise sauna guy, or someone else from there. Since I'm not very good with trip reports, I'm going to try to report a little every day....see how that goes. Pic is of the Singapore seat made into a bed, other than Gulf Airlines first class....I think this is the best bed for flights to Asia.

@newtobangkok123 in Thailand's massage parlours, whether it's a place primarily for legit massages or one primarily for erotic massages, the client makes two payments. The first is to the shop. The amount will be based on the their price list depending on the service you choose. You know that already. Some shops require you to pay before the session begins, other shops are happy to take payment (for the shop) after the session. The second payment is directly from you to the service provider. It is always made AFTER the session. Your chief question is how to know how much. First of all, not all massage places publish minimum tips. Some do, some don't. Legit massage places almost never publish minimum tips. Erotic massage places mostly do nowadays, or if they do not publish them publicly, the receptionist will whisper to you as you pay the shop's fee. Or, there will be something stated as a footnote on the menu card. Just be alert and pay attention. The rule of thumb is that any place with a stated minimum, however stated - whether publicly published, whispered or footnoted - you can assume to be an erotic massage place where the service provider expects that you would want a happy ending, or at least to get hard. So, to your question: Once I know the minimum tip, does this tip include the happy ending? the answer is Yes. Also, even if you decline the offer of a happy ending during the session, the minimum applies. That's simple enough However, regular visitors to massage parlours do not always pay just the minimum. The "how much" gets trickier. If it's a handjob, something like the minimum, plus a bit more (20%?) if you're orgasmically over the moon, will be fine. But if it was mediocre, just pay the minimum. More often than not, there is no discussion about handjobs; the service provider proceeds towards it, and you have to stop him if you do not want the session to go in that direction. If you're into plugging holes, you will probably be having a brief discussion in the room regarding who does what to whose hole, and in the course of that discussion, the service provider may mention a figure perhaps 25-50% higher than the previously stated minimum. Naturally, if you agree, that's the new minimum for your session. (If he quotes a new figure that is 75 - 100% above the pre-session minimum, I am likely to turn it down, as such a high mark-up probably indicates an unwillingness to go that route.) Whatever you've agreed, you can tip another 20-30% more above that new minimum if you're intoxicated with delight from his services (but they don't expect that). If for some reason, there is no discussion about any new minimum, then if he bottoms, you can still use the above percentages as a guide, i.e. anything from 25 - 50% above the minimum that was stated pre-session. If he tops. I think the pre-session minimum is still the reference level (but this is not an area I am familiar with). If it's a legit massage, my practice is to think in terms of maximum tip and then discount from there. If it was an excellent legit massage, I would apply the maximum, which would be an amount for the service provider that is the same quantum as what the shop charged for the session. However, if it was legit, but substandard, then I start discounting from the maximum. Example: I book a legit massage for 700 baht. If the guy delivers a very good massage, he gets 700 too. If not so good, then 600, or 500 and so on. What happens if, in what looks like a legit place, the service provider also delivers a handjob in the privacy of the room? If there was a discussion in the room, then all's clear. If no discussion, then I tend to tip some kind of industry average for handjob, which, in Bangkok (since you asked about Bangkok), may be in the 1000 - 1200 range. As with all conversations about appropriate tips, this post is going to get wild reactions from other members of the board. Some will say my ranges are too high and I am spoiling the market. More likely, others will pick up a megaphone and decry what a cheapskate I am. Without knowing who I am or which country I come from, they will say that (a) I come from a rich country, (b) I am perforce rich, and (c) I am a disgrace to humanity for failing to throw money around like Mansa Musa on his pilgrimage to Mecca. All I can say is that my rules of thumb have worked for the hundreds of massages I have had over decades, and no service provider has said - not to my face at least - I tip too little. I simply don't believe in bragging about my wealth (if any) by showing off. I was raised by parents who taught me that showing off is very crass.

Cont... Jupiter : I was also there twice, once on a weekday and once on a weekend. 1st drink was at THB 500. I didn't off anyone here as well. The models were all gorgeous that I don't think there's any single one that I wouldn't want to off 😅. Possibly the most number of models out of all the bars I managed to check out. On both days, there were a lot of patrons here (compared to other bars). Particularly on the weekend, it was so full that the waiters were struggling to find places to sit the incoming patrons. The shows were great, a mix of sexy shows and drag performances. I would echo the observations of other members on the general lack of smile or eye contact by models (I was seated facing the centre of the runway such that the models, when doing their rounds, would be seeing me face to face at a point but not a single one smiled). All in all, I had a good time there admiring the models and enjoying the shows. One thing I would note is that, perhaps a little different from what I've read previously, there were not that many female patrons on the weekday when I was there (I'd say less than 10, in a packed bar). Hotmale : I was only here once on a weekday, close to midnight. It was after their show. There were probably less than 15 models there, and only a few other patrons. Drink prices were the same as others and I didn't off anyone here. The models were a mix of the generally fit/athletic type and twinks, and probably the most enthusiastic out of all the bars I went to. They would try to win your attention as much as they could while on stage. Dreamboy : I also went here twice, once on a weekday and once on a weekend. Drinks were a little more expensive at THB 550 on both days. There was a variety of models available for off, ranging from twinks to jocks to muscle guys. I find the shows here to be the most interesting out of all (with the pyro act and flying angels etc.). Some of the models on stage will try to make eye contact and flash a smile, but others seemed rather disinterested. At least none were on their phone while on stage. There were quite a few I would love to off next time. Moonlight : I went here twice as well. The drinks were priced at THB 500. I did off a boy from here (his drink + off fee = THB 900, if I'm not mistaken). The captain was very informative about the boys (who tops, btms etc.), told me about the minimum tip expected for an off (THB 2,500) and even went to pull out additional photos of the boys from his phone. The boys are generally of the same type as Jupiter. The guy I offed told me he remembered seeing me the previous day I was there (and he was right on when that was) so maybe the boys do take note of who sits in the audience? I noticed one particular boy who did give a lot of eye contact and smiles on and off stage, but I didn't off him this round (I went with the captain's recommendation). The shows were alright but maybe because I've seen videos of their models before that it wasn't that exciting in person. My ST experience with the boy was also good, and I would definitely off him again. It helped that I clarified what I was expecting to do with him at the bar, to which he confirmed to be OK with him. He is friendly and spoke fairly decent English. Massage I only managed to check out one massage centre, Arena. The boys were all muscular guys that I could've easily gone with any of them. I chose one fair skinned Thai from the north and took the 1 hour VIP room oil milk massage (around THB 900 - big room and comes with tea/coffee. But for some reason, the shower room smelled a little off that even my guy commented on it). I was told that the minimum tip was THB 1000. His massage was a little too light for my liking (had to nudge him to increase the pressure) but it wasn't really bad (since I just wanted a relaxing massage anyway). The afters were alright, with some foreplay before he finished me off. He offered to finish as well for some extra tip (as it was pretty early in the afternoon) but I declined. I did still tip him more than the minimum since I enjoyed his company and conversation (even with limitations in the language department). Those were some of my observations on the gogo bars and massage centre that I went to. I am already looking forward to my 2024 trips there, as there were a lot of guys from the bars I would love to off.

The place not mentioned often on this forum - but I've come back recently from two weeks in Buenos Aires. I want to come back already. I had a blast. This is my fourth time in Argentina, but my last visit was 9 or 10 years ago. I'd been to all the best places of this amazing country before, so this time I wanted just to have a chill city vacation in Buenos Aires, a city that I always considered one of the best in the world, and certainly the best in Latin America (for me). It's very different from the rest of Latin America, certainly different from Brazil. It does not feel Latin American, it feels more like a ramshackle Mediterranean European city instead - like Marseille or Genoa. It has that European cultured vibe, museums, theaters, leafy streets, public spaces, simply excellent food, and a great bar scene. It does not have that fire of Brazilian parties, no - it's more reserved and not that in-your-face fun, it's like a more refined sister of a loud brash half-drunk brother across the border. To put everything in the proper context from the very start: it is cheap. It is ridiculously cheap. It's cheaper than Cambodia. The economy went down the drain long ago, but the election of Milei propelled the inflation even further up. The local currency (black market rate) lost 20% just in the first three weeks of January. When I look up restaurants on Google Maps and see their menus photographed in November, I know that I need to double the prices for end-January (in pesos). Prices from a year ago do not mean anything, that was a different universe. I'm reading that just before covid, the taxi from the airport was 68 pesos, it is now 37,000 pesos (or 18,000 pesos on Uber) - you get the range. The wine is excellent - I was buying mine from a Chinese car service round the corner. They likely got the wine in stock in December before holidays and forgot to change prices - so I was buying wine from them in end-January for a price not seen anywhere else - $9 for a bottle with a Vivino rating 4.5 (normal malbecs are at around $2 per bottle). In an expensive Michelin restaurant, a huge 400g ribeye steak (dare I say the best steak in the world) and three negronis I accompanied it with rang me a bill of $20 total. In non-Michelin restaurants, steaks are between $5 and $8. In one of the top bars in the city mentioned in all sorts of awards and ratings, the happy hour sees two classic cocktails (I drink Negroni, but others may choose something else) for $3 (i.e. $1.50 each). Argentinian guys are not as defined or perfect as Brazilians - I'm a sucker for pectorals and abdominals, so I needed to dig hard. But thanks god for Venezuelans - they are plentiful in Buenos Aires, and they were more than half the guys I hired. Huge shout and huge thanks to @Latbear4blk who gave some incredibly useful advice on this forum. I was using local websites Soytuyo, Leonos, ArgentinaMasajes and Skokka to arrange all dates. The #1 piece of advice from @Latbear4blk was to check those profiles against the reviews on a local forum ForoPirata - that forum is gold, and I managed to save myself a lot of time (and trouble) by discarding quite a number of profiles who looked excellent on websites but got scathing reviews from previous customers on ForoPirata. If only such resources were available in other countries... I usually got two guys per day - one for "massage" and one for full sex. ArgentinaMasajes is an excellent resource, and I was very upfront with masseurs asking them direct questions on Whatsapp about what's possible on their side and what's not. Some were more modest and I wished them luck. Others entertained handjobs or fetishes, more daring ones were fine with BJs and cumming in my mouth, and the best allowed full-on sex. Mostly, I visited them in their places (after checking against references). This worked really well. Some, I invited to my place - and BA is a city where you can get excellent AirBnbs - mine was with a sweeping view from the 21st-floor balcony over the city, a rooftop gym on the 31st floor with panoramic windows, a swimming pool and a sundeck, and security that was ambivalent to visitors (the security guy just on one occasion recorded an ID of one of my guests who looked especially brutal, but on other occasions I met my guests downstairs at the security fence and then escorted them out afterwards bidding farewell without even talking to security- in most BA apartment blocks a guest would not be able to leave the building by himself without you escorting him out). "Massages" and other visits with full sex were all in $15-25 range, some slipping to $30, but never higher. (I got a local SIM card and conversed in Spanish over Whatsapp from a local number to make sure I'm not quoted crazy prices). One of my regulars was a well-known porn star - he's one of that Onlyfans cluster of Argentinian porn stars who have individual accounts and cross-pollinate bareback between each other with endless collabs. Well, I knew his name before, and his vids are everywhere (I'll omit the name). He was coming to my place for great sex for $25 ($20 rate + $5 Uber fare) and even spoke some English. I love Argentina. But as I said, it was mostly Venezuelans. If not for them, my picture would have not been this bright, but Venezuelans are muscular, defined, tattooed, insatiable, with a beautiful face and lots of kinky thoughts (and actions). One of the Venezuelans, I was coming to him every several days in the morning for a "massage" with some kinks and fetishes, and every time while I waited for him to come downstairs and open me the door, I saw the same beautiful girl coming out with two dogs, and one of them was usually immediately having a piss in front of me. When I saw her a second time, I thought it's such a coincidence, I'm at a different time than before but her dog-walking schedule matched. When I saw her again next time for the third time, it finally clicked for me that this was a GF of my "masseur" and their two dogs - she had to leave the apartment to walk the dogs for an hour so her guy would do various things with me disguised as a massage. Next time I saw her, I almost said hi. The guy was usually coming to let me in a minute after her leaving. With all that, I didn't go to any saunas - and as far as I know, there are no Brazil-style GP saunas anyway, they are normal non-escort saunas. I went once to Cine Ideal, an old grand cinema showing gay porn now in huge cinema halls with balconies - the entrance was something like $1 or $2, the cinema halls were pitch dark, and I probably could find someone and something there, but I saw little upside if I can have a $15-20 Venezuelan in proper comfort and lighting elsewhere. A couple of blocks from the cinema, there is another curious establishment - called MasajeClub. It's a business of massage coupled with a red wine bar. Apparently it's popular with locals at lunchtime and after work - the downside is that you can't select a masseur, he's assigned to you. The masseurs are your guys next door, not model-like, but they can go a looong way during the massage. The official line of this club is that you pay for massage ($4.50 one hour) and then whatever happens in the room is up to a masseur and you. There's nothing that the masseur is obliged to perform apart from the massage, but it usually involved sucking and even in some cases fucking. There are no minimum tips, so it is up to you if you want to leave anything to your masseur on top of $4.50. For something like $15 they have what they call a "circuit" - that's a 4-stage massage where four masseurs (again you can't pick) come to your room one after another to perform something like 20-25 min of massage - that may end up in four waves of different cum-shooting experiences. One or two of the four would usually not be averse to fucking. After that, they give you a glass of malbec. I've also been to the stripper bars. I remember there had been quite a few in my past visits, now only one remains, and it stages nightly shows rotating through three different locations in the city depending on the day of the week. Usually, it's three hunky straight strippers (usually coming in a bundle "one stunning, one ok, and one ugly") doing two routines - first stripping to a flaccid cock, and then the second one with a hardon. Then they come to the audience, and for a modest tip you can grab and fondle a hardon. I saw people leaving tips accounting for $0.1 or $0.2, so when I tipped $0.8, that gave me a really good grip of the cock and then a strong hug from a naked hard hunk and then a big thank you and usually a return trip from him to me for another $0.8. Big whisky cola is $2, beer is pretty much spare change. The show lasts for an hour and starts at 01:30. And then there are normal bars and clubs - again this is not the Brazilian level of eye candy, but it is still sexy in its own way. I really want to come back, this is such an underrated city to visit.

Arrival This time is was quite a long trek since I had 12 hours layover in Munich. After overnight flight my plan was to do some sightseeing of the city, few people I know consider most interesting in Germany. But even best plans are derailed and sometimes replaced by even better ones. Upon arrival at main train station, itself a long train ride from the airport , count at least 45 minutes, I noticed train to Garmish Patenkirchen departing in 7 minutes. Enough time to place my carry-on in locker, ticket was no issue as I got 1 day Bavaria Ticket purchased at the airport already. 90 minutes later alighted from the train at Garmish but instead of admiring Alpine vistas I noticed poster about train trips to Germany’s highest peak Zugspitze. Round trip to the peak by separate train plus cable car up and down was 72 euros. I said silent prayer that it will work and soon I was on my way . at certain point we changed train to different one, cog wheeled which took us through the tunnel to the glacier, quite high up there. From last station it was cable car to viewing platform just below the actual peak. Day was beautiful so you can imagine views from the top. Going down was direct cable car from the top to train station. From there to Garmish and then another train to Munich. Getting there just in time to catch train to the airport and board my Bangkok bound overnighter. Little I knew at that time that this transit day was perhaps best day of entire trip, bonus being completely unplanned and not even expected to be spent that way. Day 1 Arrived in Bangkok at 14.30. First step was to buy SIM card as I was supposed to meet another ,member who was about to finish his Thai trip with 3 days in Pattaya and this way my first were his last 3. Immigration was a breeze and soon we meet at Gate 8 from where Bus to Pattaya departs but we decided to call Bolt or Grab, whatever my friend was using and for 1000 baht plus 100 tip , 80 minutes after we were alighting in front of Classroom hotel. Since it was my friend’s first visit in the city we did walk about Boyztown’s sois an Beach Rd, I showed him famous Lewinsky hotel, we sat for a dinner at bay watch restaurant and at 21.00 parked ourselves, beer in hand on Copa’s verandah to see Boyztown coming to life. An hour later we decided to check show at XBoys so went there . It was almost full and show was very progressive with a lot of flesh visible and not one but two special shows. It was surprising to see one of their guys I know for years to be actually smilingly bottoming in one of them. And no, it was not just a simulation. Then was decided , at my insistence to check Dreamboys across the soi. I was hoping #36 I saw twice in January will be there . There were no customers but about dozen boys assembled on the stage for us , 36 was not one of them but fast my friend pointed at another guy and I wasted no time to call him over. Tall, muscular and handsome. Drink and whisper “ do you go with me ? “ answered “ yes” smilingly. What about long time ? “I will tell you later” was the answer. Soon we were walking to hotel. On top of physical attractiveness his English proved very conversational and we had good time indeed. What about that long time ? “ I can not tonight as I need to wake up early to help my friend to move, but tomorrow for sure” . What about daytime visit ?, “I will let you know tomorrow”. At 2 session was over , he wanted to go home to sleep so collected his tip, 2000, high for Pattaya but worth every penny an went his way. I , after two nights on the plane and day in between spent sightseeing Alpes , collapsed on the bed for well deserved , although lonely sleep. While in Thailand I like to wake up in the morning next to a fine gentleman, not necessarily dressed and to complete a deal , to have breakfast with him. But not tonight as we can see.

For my 63rd birthday, I decided to join @vinapu in Bangkok. We had already met up in Pattaya the previous week with another forum member. For my birthday, we celebrated in Moonlight, piggy-backing off of the party that was already underway for Jessica. Earlier in the day on the 29th, I treated myself to a Vinapu recommendation, Alex, a wonderful muscle Burmese guy in my Raya room with the "in the middle of the suite" transparent glass shower. ohh lala... On the following day, the 30th of August, I decided to pamper myself at the new GLAM's Massage & Spa, that was getting a lot of gossip, reviews, etcetra in the Twitter (X) Massage Insider forum. --> reference to what is the Massage Insider forum from 26 January 2024 https://www.gayguides.com/forums/topic/40375-is-the-gay-scene-dying-off/page/5/#comment-372916 It is located at: 380/2 Ratchadaphisek Rd, Samsen Nok, Huai Khwang, Bangkok 10310 and can be easily reached via the MRT Blue line at the Sutthisan station and then just a 5 minute walk to the shop. From our BKK gay ghetto, it is only 8 stops away from the Lumphini blue line MRT station to Sutthisan. - around 40 baht. Here is the front of the GLAM shop. I took my sneakers off and left them outside of the entrance door. Here is the reception - you will see that it is huge and beautiful. You will be greeted by the manager and told what is on offer for that day and shown a menu of various programs. From here, I was taken up 1 flight via a large beautiful staircase where you are made to feel like you are in a museum or art exhibition. I was not allowed to take a photo on this first floor because the manager was sensitive about what could be misinterpreted (as I told him that I was going to write an article for a gay farang newsletter) --> as the shop was only open 2 weeks - and they wanted a chance to survive (any wrongly prying eyes) this initial opening this soft opening period. If you were lucky to visit the former Hero (Sukhumvit soi 11) or the current Prince - there is the famous glass wall with the hot guys pumping iron and showing off so that you can select your guy(s) for your visit. https://www.gayguides.com/forums/topic/10299-hero-massage/#comment-89772 internet photo of Prince glass wall for illustration purposes Well, GLAM has a similar concept, but instead of workout equipment behind the glass wall there are several leather sofas where the guys sit and with the manager you select your guy from outside of the glass. Unfortunately, on the day that I showed up - it was 1pm and all of the guys were in a training class for their new Hot Stone massage offering. So, the manager was able to only get 3 guys to exit the training class so that I could chose 2 from them - as I was interested in = surprise --> hahahaha --> a 4 hands massage. The manager told me that they have 30 guys working for them. So, my 2 masseurs walked me up another 3 flights to the top floor 4, to the VIP room. The massage VIP room was huge with a big comfortable bed and an amazing shower where we truly had a lot of "warm up" fun. All was good - the 4 hands massage, the "afters", and the "cool down shower" get ready to go back outside onto the streets of Bangkok. My program was expensive - as I selected the VIP room and 2 guys for 90 minutes. I paid 1.750 to the massage shop and each guy's minimum tip was 1.800 each - so the total for my birthday extravaganza was: 5.350 baht. For me it was well worth it. They have much cheaper prices for standard rooms and with just 1 masseur for 60 minutes instead of 90 minutes. Would I go again? YES, as it was nice to see another Bangkok neighborhood and to experience a decadent type of new massage shop like GLAM. I wish them the best of luck. Enjoy.

So I have been on the forum for sometime to collect tips / lessons learned from the different posts here, as well as refering to external resources. I thought it would be great just to share my observation on best practices in the forum. Hoping that this could be helpful for first timer gay visit to Bangkok. If you have anything else - feel free to add. A mandatory read it of course the Shameless Mack travel log - https://shamelessmacktwo.travel.blog/category/bangkok/. God bless his soul for being a faithful field reporter of his escapades in Bangkok with lots of charm and character. The forum here also contains many trip report which are written by forum veterans … (Vinapu and others) Massage Parlor Understand that there are different type of massage parlors. Not all massage parlors are created equal: Booking or not: Parlors along Silom area tend to operate on walk-ins (VCK Club, Arena massage) while Saphan Khwai operate on booking basis (KMAN, Phetboy, One, etc). You must have LINE on your phone and add individual massage parlors on LINE to make prior booking. From what I gather, the booking need not to be made too far in advance - a day or two before is probably sufficient Tipping: It is important to understand what is the minimum tips required for each shop. Whereas the massage parlor state a minimum tip of 1000 baht+ - this signals that some sex is included - if you are not sure and want to have an exact activity in mind, be sure to ask in advance. The common courtesy here is to tip above minimum (up to 50%+) if service received is good. General thai massage parlor: Some stores along Silom are just a general massage place (like Green Massage by way of example). Here there will be a negotiation with the masseur if you want additional service and what that entails Not all massage parlors have “happy ending”. For instance, Prime Massage is known for their quality massage and unlikely you’ll have happy ending here. Some men-oriented massage is targeted at high end of the market and will not have sex involved (e.g. Prestige massage, MSense Massage) comes to mind There are tons of massage shops out there - some are geared toward tourist with tried and true business model (VCK, Prince, Ssense, Gannymede, Arena) while some are geared toward local (KMan, Aura, One, etc). There are stores further out too that are just not in tourist area (Taywa, Master Gallery, etc). VCK club is likely the most famous shop among foreigners - I’ve heard that the service in this store has gone down with it being too mechanical. You’ll likely be in and out well below the time purchased If receiving masseur photos in advance, be cautioned that the photo has been enhanced in post-edit - just to keep expectations realistic. The profile of the masseur will often indicate HEIGHT/WEIGHT/ Orientation (Gay/Straight/Bisexual) / Tool size. Generally have cash ready for tips and to purchase the massage. Do not bring valuables or too much cash. Gogo Bar (The One, Dreamboy, Moonlight, etc) GoGo bar is another way (beside Massage parlor) that enable you to have an ‘encounter’. Each bar has its own forte and the reports by various forum members here describe the type of performers are there. Sometimes you can also check out their TikTok to see the lineup of guys there. There is typically en entrance fee (500 Baht+) that includes a drink The shows typically start late 10p+ During the show, you will have an opportunity to interact with ‘mamasan’ or ‘papasan’ to see which boy you are interested to take with you at the end of the night The best practice here it seems is to have a quick chat with the boy first (with mamasan/papasan help, or just wave at him). If you have a chat with the performer, then you need to buy him a drink and maybe a small tip like 100 baht (if you dont end up taking him) During the negotiation, the best practice is to ask how much is his service be depending on your preference (Short time - couple of hours, or Long time - until next day). This is to avoid surprise of tip amount at the end. If you absolutely need certain activity to be carried out, it also does not hurt to ask now I believe the rate for ST here is about 1500baht-2000baht whereas long term can be as much as 3000-3500baht. You will also need to pay a bar fine 500baht typically when you take the boy away If the boy end up leaving earlier than anticipated, you adjust the tip accordingly (advice per forum member here) Based on my guestimation, the time you will be able to take the boy off with you is likely well past midnight - therefore this method is less than ideal to those who tend to like to sleep earlier Apps (Grindr/Hornet/JackD/etc) App is a very common way to find ‘encounter’. Of course, this is probably one of the more uncharted territory that comes with its own risk and reward. It is important to state your boundary if you have any (Such as no drugs, no alcohol, etc). Pay attention to emoji / description of the profile If you encounter money boy, looks like the rate is similar to the rate quoted above for Gogo Boy I heard some hotels as safety measures are more strict with guests and that you may have to register him. I think that’s totally cool and add layer of protection Sauna / Baththouse Some famous sauna in Bangkok comes to mind like Krubb, Sauna Mania, R3, etc. These saunas involve an entry fee (500baht?) and has the typical feature of a gay baththouse: change room, dark room, shower, onsen, sauna, movie room, lounge area, etc You can see in advance which day the sauna may have a ‘special peformance’ that night which may involve some group activity which you may participate / just see As with any visit to any gay bathhouse, it is 100% YMMV (Your Mileage may vary). However, if you go in with the expectation just to experience it - especially during night of performance - that on its own can be rewarding to some extent Safety / STD: This need not to be said that you need to pay attention to it. Best practice for STD prevention should be top of mind. At the end of the day, just as with any trip, you may have good experience on certain days and encounter hiccup on another - so don’t worry. We are just learning from each experience and most importantly to have fun Feel free to add any other tips that I may be missing

Well, I made it! Thursday morning United Airlines Flight from San Francisco to Tokyo, 5 hour layover, then more hours on the ANA flight to Bangkok. Arrived as Friday turned into Saturday. Using the benefit of being an ancient and following long time ago advice from PaulSF and Reader I bypassed the general immigration area and went to the monk/diplomat/old fart line. Changed some money and then my bag tumbled onto the conveyor belt. Then through the green channel at customs and down one flight to the taxi stand. Checked my watch and found that it had taken 22 minutes from departing the plane to negotiation of the taxi fee and heading to Bangkok. Quick check in at Quarter Silom. Decided to not unpack but, rather, to see what was up and happening, I thought I’d read that the closing hours were extended to 2am. So out of the hotel, soi 6 had a few guys sitting across from the dark Tawan (need to put the new name into my memory), noted that the Coffeee Grinder Silom space was up for rent. Massage emporia darkened, many with the foot massage chairs occupied by sleeping staff. Patpong was a clatter of booths being dismantled and Tuk Tuk availability being shouted. Tuned onto the next street which features a dispensary much better lit than the ones in California. A bit surprised by the aggressiveness of the “women” at the new bar (I’ll have to get the name and put in my next report). One even grabbed my arm and forcibly blocked me from forward progress - I had to push her away. Hot Male Bar and the grabber for the show were busy, I put off checking out the show which I thought might not be too busy for Mr at 1am. Went to Good Boys which in its former life was always one to stay open as long as possible…it was open and crowded….very crowded. And, I came to understand what it must be like for Vinapu, PaulSF, and Reader when they arrive after a time away. At least 40 boys on stage or in the club. Several were formerly at Banana,Hot Male, etc. and knew me then and the Vietnamese who remembered me well enough to surround me and provide much fondling, kissing, etc. I bought a few drinks and the crew around me expanded - it was clear that the Vietnamese had decided to keep others away and my eyes from wandering, which they were going. A benefit to this was when the big cock show ended and the wandering for tips for wanking headed my way, my Viet security staff blocked them from getting to my person (wallet). All this while, the stage acts kept changing, divas, drumming with personal equipment, more divas, all the boys on stage, and I had a very good back massage. While viewing At 2am, staff start bringing in the furniture that had been outside, lights go up, and it seemed that private going’s on continued. I noticed one table of two straight couples (guessing, which I shouldn’t do) had a dozen boys drinking with them. I tuned down multiple offers of night company, including one boy, who told the manager that I was offing him. I note here that there was one boy who was with another farang . One of the Viets noticed this and did a yeoman’s job of blocking my view. I left when most of the boys were departing, I gave the object of my attention a Vinapu red note with a practice Vinapu tug. His name is CoCo from Cambodia, and we will meet up night. One of the boys who I’ve known for some time insists on walking me back to the hotel. I tell him, I don’t want anyone tonight as I’m jet lagged. He says he understands. We settle on a gratuity for services and we walk back to Quarter Silom. When we pass The Tarntawan he goes to turn there, which tells me that my habits were a matter of recorded memory as for many a year The Tarntawan was my hotel of choice. After a couple of rounds of discussing Vinapu’s stamp collection and two showers. My guest accepted his gratuity, asked for a tip, after hearing “no, tried the taxi tactic. Again no, then we both laughed as I said that if I over tipped the first night in town, the word would get out and my expenses would expand. He laughed pointed out that I’d managed to avoid the off fee and confirmed with another laugh and smile that I was correct in the word of mouth as he’d already had texts about our encounter. We exchanged Line info, and he gave me the bar tag #s for CoCo, himself, and someone he thought I’d like. The sun was beginning to emerge as he emerged from the building. I have not put in his name, real/stage, as he is a Viet who kisses, sucks, bottoms, and tops. Qualifications rarely found over many many years of Viet boy experience.

I just returned from 12 days in Da Nang, Vietnam - as I needed to escape Thailand's Songkran water splashing madness. I LOVE Da Nang - a mid size city right on the South China Sea with little to no pollution as the winds from the sea keep things fresh. I live in Jomtien, Thailand and I found that Da Nang from a financial point of view to be between 20% to 30% cheaper than what things cost in the Pattaya area - I believe that is because the VND - Vietnamese Dong currency is not doing well at the moment. I hired a local gay guide to show me around and he was great - DM me if you want more info about him. No sex - but a great kind guy who has his own car and could take me out of Da Nang to nearby Hue (to see the imperial city), Hoi An where we went to the nearby off-shore island of Cham to do snorkeling and on return to Hoi An proper we visited the unique coconut island water farm in those typical round circular Vietnamese boats (this was one of the highlights for me on this trip to Da Nang). The other thing that I did was rent a motorbike for several days and I just LOVED driving out of Da Nang up into the surrounding hills where you have an amazing view of all of the beaches and the Da Nang city skyline off in the distance. Da Nang has 1 gay bar = https://www.facebook.com/qbardanang1 I did not visit it as I was too busy touring around and getting my daily massages in my lovely 22nd floor AirBnB that overlooked the entire South China Sea. To meet guys, the number ONE app is BLUED - now renamed to HeeSay. Hornet is not big in Vietnam like it is in Thailand. and then there is Grindr (which I hate). Just from the HeeSay app alone - I received over 300 messages in 12 days - truly off the scale - for sex, dates (even for just a romantic walk on the Da Nang seaside), massages, and general queries. Food was great and my gay tour guide turned me onto a different type of Vietnamese coffee - which is called - Cà Phê Muối = sea salt cream coffee - this is now my MOST favorite Vietnamese coffee. so, I guess I need to do a trip report - how do I hate those - as they are so much work to write a proper one with maps, photos, info, etc. - but I will do it eventually.

Day 4 For breakfast we opted for new Foodland at Park Silom this morning . At 8 am was so packed that we managed to get only last remaining table in the corner so conductive to not so accidental knee touching and similar sinister moves. Going there we passed stand with discounted clothing and some accessories and upon seeing S took an interest in some travel bag I bought it for him as a bonus for his contribution to my almost sleepless night. I’m surprised that is more hot than last January but still at least some breeze in the morning pretending to be cool with some degree of success. After we parted ways I started tourist program today which was Lumpini and Sukhumit are where I walked from Silom, For some reason despite heat I felt like having walking day perhaps to vent off heat generated last night ?. At night I decided to make some bar tour and started with Hot Male beer bar. P of course was asking what happened to me another night, he thought I was playing practical joke with him but I bluntly explained to him that I did not like fact that he asked for a drink only to leave me to drink alone, fact that was noticed and commented even by some other patron. Anyways red note brought peace but idea of going with me tonight was dismissed. I’m easy going but not that easy going and like to be treated a bit better than on my first night there. Then to soi 4 to have beer at Banana while watching Jupiter boys coming to work and finally to Tawan. As always I was greeted enthusiastically and walking ATM curiosities should be I guess . I was surprised to see Mekhin there. At one time he was unquestionable star at Tawan and his fame lasted quite a few years. Then he moved to Jupiter and when I offed him in 2018 he told me it was very good move for him. Few years ago he had serious accident and disappeared from the scene so I was both surprised but also very happy to see him. He still has his sizable frame but unfortunately muscles are only shadow of steel reinforced concrete they were when I saw him last time. He sat beside me pretending he remembers me from days past and told me he is still in recovery and indeed some fragility in him could be noticed. As always at Tawan boys were circulating asking for tips shamelessly lowering their briefs but today I decided to be not as much stingy as selective so few were left disappointed and one even commented that I used to have good heart and what happened to me to which I cheerfully responded that you guys become too expensive. Still as always I’m of opinion that Tawan is friendliest bar of them all and I quietly thought if Jupiter was so friendly I were bankrupt long time ago. Sure boys are pushing for tips a but it all is done with good natured humor. I watched show, tipped f….ck show participants , even forked out 100 for j/o show but since my tip was only one guy on the scene resigned but my red note was still taken, he, he. Tawan is more diversified now with few twinks in the rooster and one of them being only waiter drew my attention with his smile so I decided to cross Rubicon and asked him if he wants to see my stamp collection. Me and twinky twink – shock waves were probably felt as far as Koh Samui but yes, after the show to applause of whole bar we both marched out. It was actually pleasant moment to see that his co-workers seemed to be vary happy for the boy that he landed such handsome and generous farang i.e. myself. Dinner at Happy Beer Garden, again he selected some very modestly priced dish and back to the room. 2nd Tawan boy this trip and 2nd quasi boyfriend performance This trip is really developing very well and while there will be some mild glitches , that pattern will stay till very end. Again, as with D on the 1st night , I suspect he was happy he got offed and did his best to show his appreciation. I did my part to make sure he was rewarded for his efforts and it was money very well spent.

Day 3 Raya has breakfast again at 250 per person if not included in the rate. Buffet style and all dishes very tasty. Pleased to see that guy I remember from my first stay there good 10 years ago is still working there although I have an impression he looks like 10 years older but what do I know? Today I’m moving to Baan Silom so after breakfast when Y left I packed what I have and rolled me suitcase there. Since it was bit early I was told to return at 2, left suitcase on reception and via Tourist boat went to Grand Palace are to browse stores there. It was good move as I required some old Thai banknote for my collection , one I was looking for for quite a while. This of course created an opportunity to invite somebody to admire and assess new acquisition. Upon return to hotel I was bit jet lagged- day 3 is usually my worst and collapsed on the bed for about 2 hours. Woke up quite hungry as I did not eat anything substantial since breakfast and decided to go to Unseco designated world famous Foodland Patpong for a dish picture of which is attached below. No prize for guessing it’s name though. Then wandered for about 1 hour through the area and decided to go to HotMale upstairs to see if S would be there as I kind of believe he will be best suited to see my new old Thai banknote. He was mentioned in my reports before as only boy taken for a tour ( of Grand Palace back in 2022 ) who genuinely was interested in sightseeing , even trying to explain us some paintings in the area around Emarald Buddha temple. At 21.15 bar was still very quiet. Few farangs were holding court and soon after they took 4 or 5 boys with them. S was there so I grabbed him right away even if there was no competition in the audience. Remembered from last trip when two girls were looking at him lustily when he was sitting with me already. Of course he accepted idea of seeing my new purchase not only right away but also in the morning where light will be more natural. By time we finished our drinks and took off two farangs showed up ( separately), gulped their drinks and left empty handed. Nobody was in the audience when we were leaving at 10 pm so it looked as quiet night and still quite a few offs from the bar. Via 7/11 across the hotel we went to my room and of course in a heat of the moment we forgot about my new trophy. No harm done. It turned out that next week he is going to see his folks in Cambodia and by sheer coincidence I will be in Phnom Penh and Siem Reap at the same time as well. He asked to join me for the whole week but since I had some designs on Phnom Penh I suggested he will join me for 4 nights I will be in Siem Reap. We left discussed particulars of that trip for Line and spent rest of time together how it was supposed to be spend. Third night in row and third fabulous. I started to count my blessings already !

Phuket Bars Didn't go to any, next time! Massage 4 Massage: Only went here this trip but quite glad this place still exists, although they have moved just around the corner from where they previously were. I went with 3 different boys here, one of which I've been seeing since 2019 who is always good fun. He massaged my legs for probably 5 minutes before the main event started, but he always gives me a good time. Another who was messaging me on Grindr on my last trip to Phuket (2022) I finally got the chance to try, and he was very good and happily bottomed for me, and another boy who was relatively new was also quite good and bottomed for me also (requested an inflated tip which I just had to laugh at). I always have a good time here. Hotel Baan Paradise: Situated in one of the streets in the paradise complex, it was decent enough and close to all the action. I had a balcony room so was able to look out onto the street and watch the people go by. It is a pretty lively area with people coming and going, plenty of restaurants, bars and massage shops (for gays and straights), and it is only a short walk to the beach. Other Didn't do much else here, and although Phuket isn't one of my favourite destinations, I still feel drawn to it every once in a while. Maybe for the massage boys, who knows. It is quite a big island so I may try staying in a different area next time. The Phuket Smart Bus runs up and down the west coast from the airport down to Rawai and it is reasonably priced for 100 THB one way. Doesn't run super often though, maybe once an hour or twice in the busy periods. Nakhon Ratchasima (Korat) A boy I met in Jomtien a few years ago went back home to Korat and asks me occasionally to come visit him so I thought I would considering I didn't have much else to do. I also wanted to try out the long distance trains, which were easy enough to book online, and very affordable. The train left from the new Krung Thep Aphiwat Central Terminal, which is absolutely massive but probably good forward planning for the future. I took a 2nd class aircon carriage which was comfortable enough. My hotel was less than a 10 minute walk from the train station, and after meeting the boy at Terminal 21, we later had a look around some of the attractions in the city as well as going to the tower back at Terminal 21 to look at the view over Korat. Boy stayed overnight, which was my only overnight this whole trip as I don't usually like long time. He also insisted on buying me dinner which I thought was sweet. I only gave myself one night here as I wanted to give myself an out incase things went pear shaped. Would I go back? Maybe, but it wouldn't be somewhere I would go regularly. I did see some farang there though. On the way back to Bangkok, I was in a 2nd class aircon carriage and this was the type with the open windows and also the back door was wide open as we went. I really enjoyed watching the scenery go by, and really interesting and exciting to see all the new structures for the train lines going up, which are massive and seemingly a little out of place in the countryside, but I think these are for the new high speed rail that is going to Laos and other places? I had a cute guy sit next to me for some of the trip, and I offered him some of my bread (which he declined), and later on struck up a short conversation with me before he got off at Saraburi. Final thoughts: I had a nice time and just kinda tried to pace myself since I was here for a while (and also not incredibly fit). I'm slowly building up my list of regulars which is good for future trips, and ate quite a lot of nice food. And same as always, I would often get mistaken for being Thai (which I take as a compliment), even in bars, and it's amusing when they talk to me in Thai and I just kinda look confused, or say something like 'kor tord na kap, English na kap'. I'll get around to learning Thai one day. My next trip may be in June/July, or December, or both. I'm not sure yet. But I do want to visit a few more places, like more islands. Thanks for reading!

So, kind of like Pattaya, I was totally messed up on my 2nd night , sleep wise afer the 1st night and my sleep didn't get in sync on the 2nd night. Plus my body told me to recuperate and I did. I was ready for the 3rd night....woke up at 530am and thought I was going to be fucked again come later, but I kept busy and it's now almost 5am and I'm ok, nearly 24 hrs later. I went to MBK to look for a shirt I bought last time that I really liked, but it seems like is an old model and were out of my size.....so I bought a coupe of different ones. Went to DQ for a blizzard, always makes me happy, surprised how many they sell out of such a small stand in the mall. Decided to get a haircut at David #5, near where the gay hotel on Rama IV was (BBB INN)... got there just in times before 5 other locals came in shortly after me...the wait would have been ridiculous. Needed to buy some alcohol and was 4pm, so had to kill an hour....damn law for the drunk school kids, lol So I walked around Silom looking at the massage shops....ZERO interesting nor anyone interested in business, just their phones! Ran into a group of construction guys getting off work, thought about inviting a few for drinks.... Went to Foodland to do my shopping with a few minutes left on the alcohol timer.....so ridiculous. Messaged @vinapu to see what his plans were and we settled to meet at Hotmale downstairs bar at 7pm.....I was punctual, he was 4 minutes late. However this time he came straight to me instead of going to someone else, thinking it was me.... progress! Hung out there for an hour and we decided to walk to Tawan/Soi 6 to see if his Tawan massage guy was there....he wasn't (supposedly). The guy that was outside (I'll come back to him later) said he usually comes late, so we did a roundtrip of Soi 6, without anything interesting, except @vinapuknew a massage guy there from years ago. On the way back to Tawan, his "massage" guy came outside and they both disappeared into the heavens. We agreed to meet up later.....he wanted to see SOL at 10pm, since he hadn't been there before. I hesitated to go in @400 baht a drink, didn't look promising, but I did it for moral support, lol. I couldn't stand the entire show and left, they're hitting the Cabaret market, not the whores like us 🙄 Back to Hotmale bar downstairs....after the show he came over and we contemplated Hot Male upstairs or Screw Boy....I checked out Hot Male, was packed and the big cock show was on, we decided to try Screw boys. One of the guys that I almost fell in love with , that messaged me saying he was going back to Cambodia tonight, was shocked to see me walk in, as was I surprised to see him there, nothing shocks me anymore in Thailand, unless if Gayinpattaya bought me a drink maybe. I REALLY liked this guy and was willing to overlook everything...I don't go out with much CASH, but have credit cards....I asked the mamasan if I could pay with card if I bought a boy drink (soda only 400baht) and an off, 500 baht....10% cc commission , wtf? I said , ok I won't no neither and they said ok....yet another example of Thai business logic. Lose 900 baht of almost free money and to lose what comes to a max 4% cc commission, of 36 baht??? If you know me, I'm a stubborn man of principles, lol I made an agreement with the kid, I'd see him after work at Hot Male at 2am....I half knew he wouldn't show, and he didn't. Meanwhile I lost 2 options at Super A and 1 at Hot male downstairs. Will I ever learn..... doubtfully , I believe in people more than I should. Since I had about 2 hrs to wait for him I walked Surawong looking for a foot massage, this is when I ran into the Tawan guy that was outside of the bar, with 2 other guys....He told me I could pay for the 3 of them to eat and I could join them, lmfao. I told him I was full and am on a diet, but he could fuck me for free if he wanted too....he didn't get the irony. The only massage of the surawong shops wanted to do, was a body oil massage, because they know that have a happy ending upsell chance, but not with only a foot massage. The last place next to Tarntawan hotel agreed to take me in and A cute 20 yr old Laos boy did it and was fun, I'll give him a chance to do a full body, he was playful with my cock/balls because I was in my boxers only, was late and only us in the shop and I didn't want to use massage pants. After finishing, went back towards Hot Male and ran into the Tawan guy and friends AGAIN! I asked, "you still eating, wtf" he laughed and offered me some of his food, he redeemed himself. Hung out waiting for Screw Boy guy and never appeared nor read/replied any of my Line messages..... So I went to Silom, as DJ and GOD was letting out. Was like a scene of the night of the living dead, as you can imagine.....WASTED ASIANS stumbling all over the place. I sat on the side stoop and watched the show go on for about an hour, was entertaining/sad at the same time. I got on Grindr and a thai/Turkish guy messaged me, staying on soi 5....nothing added up, his story or his pics. So blew him off and never heard back from him. Saw a guy on Silom that claimed to work at a soi 6 massage shop, some made up name place, I gave him the "give me a sample" line, again, saved me, total shit massage, dodged a bullet there! Ran into one of the guys that work selling the good underwear on Silom, I've known him for awhile, I think I make him nervous, he knows I like him, lol I wasn't hungry, but how could I pass up Foodland on the way back to my hotel.....there was a few interesting guys there to watch, again for the entertainment value. End of the story, @vinapu booked a 1 AM guy as not to end up empty handed like me and I am always looking for the best in people, which seems to be more difficult anywhere these days.... Long post, not as eloquent as most, but I'm writing it before I go to sleep and my memory is erased by aliens overnight. Forgot to mention we met up with a board member in SOL, I forget his name, the aliens have already gotten to me.... Also , Screw boy guy just messaged me saying he's in Cambodia now, lol I met a Brazilian American YEARS ago in Rio that used to hang out in front of Corujinha in Rio, was like Malaysia hotel back in the day, before the internet, hook up place after the bars to meet MB's. I always remember his advice, yet don't always follow it.... NEVER trust guys that suck cock for money.....if they're willing to do that, you never know what they're capable of doing. Maybe not today or weeks/months from now.... but at some point they'll do SOMETHING and you can't be surprised by it. Some just show their true colors sooner than others 🙄 Sarcastic, yes....accurate....give it time, you'll see. A few pics, so you get the vibe of the night.

There,s similarly tittled thread already but I could, t find it so started new one. Arrived early evening yesterday. Decimated by long trip and jet lag still managed to do short survey of realm. Area much busier than in July, my last time here. A lot of young farangs. One visitor on Patpong market was, so stunning that I almost pretended to tipple over something, just to hang on to him for brief moment to keep my balance but regained my composure and dropped idea. Patpong market and soi 4 fairly busy. With another member visited Jupiter. House half full just be fore show started but filled in with big group of visitors soon after. Show pretty brief, I think just 4 numbers but two erections visible. Mao, heavily tattooed hunk who left to Moonlight while ago is back. Three walkabout, first in briefs, no numbers, second in white shorts, no numbers and last one in black jeans, with numbers although quite a few of the guys did not have one meaning thay are already booked. During walkabout I tipped 2 best looking guys and expected as minimum acknowledging nod or smile during next walk but no. I was like transparent. So same old there, handsome but disinterested guys. Good for them but I took off for Moonlight. As it was 11.45 crowd was thinning, few floor boys still available and few modes, dressed already. Hoping to see one of three guys but to if them did ot show up tonight and third one, while sitting was, already booked by some Asian, as attractive as himself. Off to Hot Male beer bar, quite a crowd. Got myself a drink, invited one of their boys for his but he was, still doing some errands prompting comment from one of the patrons " you bought him drink and have nothing to show for it". Lost all hope for warm bed tonight but there, s still Suriwong where I spotted guy I offed in the past few times. Bingo! So to summarize, Patpong still alive and presents a lot of opportunities.

It may be because I've just returned from Thailand and am, bluntly, fed-up....that I can sympathise with visitors who have disappointments there; we all do, whether it be an unsuccessful "off" or, in my case, a poor meal. Very few of those, by the way! However, for someone contemplating a grey, chilly day in London, thousands of miles away from his loved-one I must encourage adopting the Buddhist principle of (as P tells me, ad nauseam) "thinking good." It is true that, the older I get, the harder it is to look on the bright side but, for heaven's sake, the vast majority of guys on the scene whom we meet are friendly, reasonable in their demands. And fun. That was my experience, anyway. For me, just to wander through the JC before bedtime (embarrassingly early in my case) enjoying the cheerful smiles, the enticing offers- cheerful and not persistent when refused- and the sheer joyfulness (at their best) of the guys is something I treasure. And even more so in retrospect. I just like being smiled at! Is there anywhere else in the world where such pleasures are available so cheaply and so safely? and when the assignation isn't so good, it is so easy to say, "Mai pen rai; tomorrow's will be better". And it will be.

Day 5 In the morning unpleasant surprise – no water in the room. Luckily by time I finished breakfast and strolled around the area water returned so I managed to spruce myself up , pack little I had , left luggage on reception and at noon reported at Arena for massage session with Nuk . Muscular veteran there, it’s probably 7 or 8 years since I had my first session with him although he is not that old- started his career there early. Great massage, again with full coverage, he is professional in what he does , that’s sure thing. Than walk to Silom Convent Garden, place I discovered in August located right beside Sauna Mania in soi Phipat. Room a was available , lots of storage space and at least 20 hangers in the closed, microwave , even kitchen utensils but one substantial item absent – safety deposit box. I guess cheap rates mean something. Did some shopping at 7/11 at end of the soi and at 4 pm welcomed N, freelance masseur. Since I was just massaged we resolved to survey stamp collection instead. Great session , it was not our first meeting but today he seemed more active and more clingy than before. Absolute gem so my lucky streak continues. Rest of afternoon and early evening I spent in the room catching with forum , Line and e-mails. E-miel returned from his China trip so we agreed to meet in soi 4 at 9.15 pm . We never meet before. Waiting for him in mouth of soi 4 I was accosted by Vietnamese looking freelancer, handsome face but very skinny. Fortunately as soon as I told him I’m waiting for my boyfriend gentleman beaming smile in my direction showed up and it was emiel indeed. Nice conversation over beer in Banana outside. I was shocked to discover that he never went to Moonlight but somehow we decided to check Jupiter instead. It was Wednesday and at 10 pm Jupiter was surprisingly empty . We got front row seats , usually reserved for visiting big tippers with pussies but for lack of those we got invited to seat there. Moment of arrival was great as first walkabout started soon. I tipped again very hunky performer recommended to me by one of our member and again , the same like few days ago, no acknowledging smile when he was across the scene on other side. I know I should pursue him because of his looks but other half of me says , give yourself a break and save your money. Issue to be solved next trip I guess. Then one of performers looked familiar. I was pretty sure I saw him among crew at Sabaidee Spa in Dec 2021, then one of my friends engaged him and got his Line which he shared with me and we even talk about meeting but couldn’t find agreeable time. Luckily for all those years I kept his Line. Not sure he is the guy , lets call him T , I slipped red note into his hand when he was passing by and few seconds later , when he was on another side of the scene I was rewarded with broad smile , rarity in Jupiter. Then we watched show and when at midnight was time to make moves I decide to invite my guy for a drink. Good sign was , he was clearly happy and reason was explained by mamas an- it was his 1st day in the bar today. Then I pulled my phone , showed him profile in question and yes, he confirmed it’s his. Finally , after 4 years I had chance to hug such dreamed about hunk. Emile in meantime did not waste time and invited one of boys for a drink as well. It needs to be said that at that time, post show , mood in the bar improved , sober , disinterested looks are gone and boys are behaving normally, friendly smiles , clicking glasses etc. Neither emiel nor myself did not waste time, I asked my guy about going with me , he sounded enthusiastic , no wonder , first day and off already, I’d be too. Soon two sets of us left bar. Since I have habit of feeding my overnighters I asked him if he is hungry. He was and modestly suggested Foodland – good sign and there , another good sign , he settled for ordinary rice with vegetables, nothing fancy so bill for two of us was not even 200. It's a bit of walk along Convent to hotel and only there I asked about Long Time , to which he agreed , I’d say matter of-factly. Quoted me hair rising price but still much less than I expected to hear so I agreed as it would be stupid to let such a chance to pass by over 1 or 2 thousands. Great body, great personality, good English, active and patient, I’d even say caring , whatever good can be said about ones off – he ticked all boxes. Even when we waked up and it was 11 am he did not make any move indicating he is in rush to leave like he knew what is my pet peeve. I expected many things in life – to win lottery big , to become famous politician, scientist , movie star, pope and even best street cleaner in whole Bangkok but I never thought I will live long enough to say that my best off of the whole trip will be from Jupiter. It was never even close possibility but here I am !

Day 2 In the morning breakfast in Foodland together, greeted by knowing smiles of staff there but those were nice , not contemptuous knowing smiles. In the early afternoon jet lag made me collapsing on the bed for few hours and when I woke up I decided to check GLAM, new shiny and upscale massage place near Suthisan MRT station. Bkkmfj visited that place and started thread about it in August . Guy on reception recognized me from my visits to Jey Spa where he worked and told me those two are closely related , sharing most boys because one of co-owners co-owns Jey as well. He lead me upstairs where they have glass behind which there were only two boys One of them Mek would be my choice but was waiting for his appointment already and another guy, likely seeing unsightly, grey haired troll i.e. me claimed is not feeling well. Mamasan helpfully suggested he nearby has on call guy named Maii which was perfect solution as I already met him few times at Jey. I was ushered to room , very sizable with equally sizable shower so fee of 1290 for 90 mins reflects quality of the place. Waiting for Maii I took shower and soon we had surprised reunion. I was happy to notice that guy’s smile was rather not fake. Another case of known quality so I left happy , upping his minimum tip by 400. Dinner at G’Bangkok , then meeting with Keithambrose in his hotel and we went to new bar Dragon and Koi across from Foodland. Keith made already relation from our time there in bar’s thread. We were surprised that there boys started dancing on the bar bare chested. Since we both liked the same guy we invited him for a drink later on but there was not much of conversation since his English was of Google Translate variety. We did not stay long there as Keith was to leave next morning. On top of Patpong two we parted ways with me going to my most favorite bar – Moonlight. Cabal of barkers outside greeted me enthusiastically and so did few mamasans not to mention several smiles from boys on the stage. Some veterans of previous offs , others remembering me from previous visits , they were few who should recognize me but pretended not to. Fine with me. My favorite Y was there and I wasted no time to call him over for drink. Soon we settled on short time as he is not doing long times ever since he got a girl. Few trips ago A, muscular semi god from there noticed that I look at Y admirably suggested I off both of them. Tonight story repeated as this time Y recalled I told him last time I like a lot his compatriot #10 as asked me why I don’t take them both. Music to my ears. Dinner at Happy Beer garden , Joy there repeated her mantra that we are the same ‘ you like boys and I like boys” and then stroll to the hotel. As much as it was enjoyable there were some awkwardness tonight as they are close friends and even if none of them was shy I sensed that they are not hat comfortable so I threaded carefully and it worked. It can be said I did not enjoy them together but enjoyed to a greatest degree each of them separately. Fact that Y is very familiar around me cured other guy initial apprehensiveness. Another great night. At 2 they left and I slept exhausted and jet lagged till 11.20 am of day 3 without any interruption.

Yes I do - already since 2 years and 2 months I get up at the crack of dawn and go to the gym - my training starts at 7:50am - I finish the gym between 9:55am and 10:10am. Then I go eat breakfast at Tinnies (the Australian place with the BEST bacon in all of Pattaya - in my opinion). Then depending on the day, I grab a Bolt from Jomtien into almost North Pattaya where I go for my ED Shockwave treatment at 11:30am and that lasts for around 35 to 40 minutes - then I take a motorbike taxi to the TRT (testosterone replacement therapy) clinic - near Boyztown. That lasts for about 10 to 15 minutes if it is not a day when they need to draw blood for the monthly stats. Then the baht bus back to Jomtien, run local errands - like to FoodMart and/or 7-Eleven or to go see my viagra/cialis lady to stock up the supply. Then home for a 2 hour nap. Then around 5pm or 6pm one of my 4 hands massage coordinators brings himself and another guy to massage me and have some fun. Then clean up, myself, the bed, shower area and if one of them wants to go eat we usually go outside of the Jomtien Complex to grab a bite - it is usually Thai food. Then head into the Jomtien Complex for a drink and by 9pm or 10pm I am craving my bed to catch up on some internet and/or watch some YouTube and then fall asleep. Rinse and repeat and before you know it the week has finished. On non gym days (there are 3) then my schedule is more free and I walk on the beach, or go to Koh Larn, or go into Central Pattaya to one of the malls, go see a movie - catch up with friends, etcetra You don't need to cross that busy road (Thappraya) - you can live in one of the many beach condos that are all within walking distance of the Jomtien Supertown Complex and the gay Dongtan beach. They are: View Talay 7 Jomtien Complex Condotel Grand Condotel View Talay 5 (there are 2) Jomtien Plaza Condotel Of course you will pay more because the above condos are on or very near to the beach. On the other side of the busy Thappraya road - there is View Talay 2 (2 buildings) and also View Talay 1 (2 buildings) that are much cheaper than the above listed on-the-beach condo list. Yes - easily. Just realize to put into your budget 2 important factors: Boy tax - everytime you bring one to your room or do them in a massage and/or short time room there is a fee - these can become very expensive - so make sure that you have a way to finance all of this or you might need to join the PFC, NEW Thai government taxation (effective from 01-Jan-2024) on money that you bring into Thailand (i.e., remittances) as Assessable Income --> my Boy tax is already too high so when the government decided to get greedy - as I am already spending a considerable amount of my discretionary income in the local Thai economy - I decided that from 2025 forward I will only live in Thailand for less than 180 days for each alternating year - thus giving the money that I would have spent in Thailand to other nearby countries (The Philippines and Vietnam). I do not agree with this statement. It is easier to make expat friends with these 2 types of expats: those here on vacation, those who live here seasonally. I found that the expats that live here full time are not easy to make friends with and in fact I have given up on this endeavor - and I instead concentrate making Thai friends. Even my 1 local expat friend, JD100, is leaving Thailand due to this difficulty to make friends with the full time expats that live here. There seems to be some kind of acid in the local water - as I cannot explain it but better to leave the hornets nest alone. Yes I agree for 2 primary reasons: 1.) it can become too expensive, 2.) if you go into the Jomtien Complex too often the excitement wears off when the emphasis of 98% of the bar owners is that you as the farang = "farang sit and farang drink" - as I do not like to sit in a chair all night and I do not like to drink it becomes VERY lethargic and boring and unhealthy. There is no excitement and there is no decent place where you can stand up and expend some energy - like a great place to dance with good music. So, one of the nighttime alternatives can be to walk over to the gay volleyball on Dongtan beach near the Pattaya waterpark and Sea Rescue. When I do it is a fun night because although I cannot play (I am not good enough) I can jump up and down and cheerlead the guys on and run after the stray balls to avoid that they get wet in the shoreline waves. It is a social event where you walk around and not only sit on your ass all night - so it is not lethargic as a night out in the Jomtien Complex can be. This is incorrect. All of the View Talays were built before this current fad to copy HongKong style small cramped dwellings - so I find the View Talays to be rather large. Mine is 98 sqm with 2 sea facing balconies - more than enough for 1 person. I have looked at many of the newer constructed beach condos and they are mostly all very small and VERY expensive. My goal is to be in walking distance of the Jomtien Complex - so most of the newer constructed cramped buildings are too far away and would require that you either buy a motorbike and have to worry about having an accident or create a BIG dependency on BOLT for transportation purposes.

Unfortunately on Thursday night I wasn’t feeling well so I stayed in bed all night which continued onto all of Friday. It was mostly my allergies and unfortunately i didn’t bring any allergy meds, first gen antihistamines make me drowsy but rarely work so I tried some tiffy which made me sleep. I looked up online if they had mine prescription antihistamine and they did under a different name so on Saturday morning I went off to retrieve which has helped me recover. on Saturday I went down to the bars again, I was early so I walked around a bit. I remembered banana room started their show early so I headed over, when I entered it was packed, nearly every seat filled, I sat in the back last row to the left of the stage, I watched the show a few of the drag queens did quite well and I tipped, some of them tried to lip sync to English songs but it was obvious they didn’t know the words and only trying to voice the syllables, I think it would look more impressive if they lip synced to a thai song as some of the other performers did. Once again we had the nude shower show and the cock parade. I like this bar as overall seems to be less pressure, you are allowed to take a look in first to decide if you want to go in, mamasan comes around and asked if anyone you like but if you simply say “I’m still looking” they don’t push further. The show was over and unfortunately the boy I had my eye on went to join someone who had bought a bottle, another boy I had my eye on joined a couple who was preparing to off two boys, what a fun night for them, on stage only 8 boys remained, compared to other clubs it seems like banana room has the least guys on stage. Now I didn’t want to pick someone who wasn’t interested in me, atleast faking interest. On stage only one boy waved at me and showed interest, the papasan came around and I asked to buy this boy a drink, he called him down and he joined me, where he cuddled up with me very fast, he asked me all the standard questions and then I asked his position and he said “anything you like” however for me I want someone who can preform so I asked what you like more, and he told me, his English wasn’t the greatest so I asked where he was from to ensure I was translating to the correct language and we discussed fees. I agreed and since the show was over asked if he wanted to go now or stay and watch next show, he said he would get dressed, I called papasan over to pay fees. I discussed with papasan, papasan who is very friendly, why I choose boy, I told him he smiled at me and waved. I told him I look got a boy who shows interest if I take back I don’t want a dead fish. He understood and hopefully he can give some advice to the other boys. boy was dress and off we went, everything went well, he really did do “anything you like” I was tired from the previous two days and didn’t want to complete however he said Noo, I’m happy if you finish too. Which was nice made everything seem less transactional. We showered discussed bangkok a little bit and off he went. on Sunday I wanted to visit the chatuchak market, this is a huge market. I specifically went to buy some souvenirs and take in the experience, I was pleasantly surprised to find a lot of the prices cheaper than malls such as platinum. I took the mrt back through to lumphini park and walked through as this was something I had not done yet. After I took a grab back to my hotel. I relaxed for a bit and then decided I was just gonna pack tonight and stay in and relax. Even tho it’s my last night in bangkok I did need a rest I had a great time and I will definitely be back, likely the same time as this year. Most thunderstorms were overnight with only a couple in the venting early morning, it did not last long. I will likely visit some other areas such as pattaya next time. Hiring Mac at the beginning of the trip was great as he showed me how transit works, showed me the area around my hotel to eat, get laundry done, and explained things to look out for. I would definitely recommend hiring guide for first timers to learn the ins and outs, if not atleast learn how to use transit. Bangkok traffic is no joke, 3km turns into an hour long trek and the skytrain can save you so much time. my hotel furama was great. I stayed in an executive suite so I cannot speak to the other floors. I only ate breakfast once but it had everything you can expect from a western breakfast plus other cultures as well. The executive club is nice to unwind and have a drink. They provide snacks all day and some lights meals in the evening, the pool area has fake grass around the area now, pool water appeared to be tested everyday and was comfortable temperature, the city looks great at night from the rooftop pool area. maid service was amazing. She did not speak English but she didn’t get bothered when I fumbled a bit with google translate to request extra towels. She always ensured I had plenty of bottled water (sometimes I had 4 in the fridge and 6 on the counter) even when I got up late or left and came back she still did the room as late as 5 pm! Amazing service, I’m sure it helped I tipped everyday but it’s not much by western standards and the service she provided made my experience a lot more comfortable, the front desk staff and door men were friendly, never judging when bringing people back, even when I brought two. the only downside is the keys, they reuse hotel key cards so over time they wear out, so simply placing them in contact with your cellphone can erase the data causing the key not to work in the door, they did give me three keys, one for the electricity. And two for me. So I kept extra key in my wallet just in case. tomorrow I leave in the afternoon, it was suggested I simply use grab. So hopefully they won’t be mad that I have 1 large suitcase 1 carryon and my backpack. special thanks to everyone on this forum who posted. I read a lot over the few months before my trip to prepare myself and I feel like without these tips I would not have ventured out to the bars or even gotten as far as I did, so a big thank you! 🙏

Day 20 Of course we forgot about sunrise and parted ways quite a while after that. Today I’m off to Phuket. It’s my first time there. Few people mentioned that ‘ you will forget at times that you are in Thailand “ . On another had my friend is there ( not gay)now and he swears by the place spending most of his time in Thailand there , often bypassing Bangkok entirely. So bottom line is I’m very curious. Since my said friend is there but leaving tomorrow morning I’m booking 1 night in hotel he is staying to keep appearances and tomorrow I will move to Paradise Complex. To Don Muang by usual combination of BTS+ MRT + SRT red line, in airport smooth. Flight with Air Asia uneventful but not very comfortable due to cramped seats but at 50$ for 90 minutes flight I’m not one to complain. In the airport I followed signs for ‘public bus” , there called Smart Bus. There are 3 different lines with schedules well posted and mine, in direction of Patong was departing quite soon. Left half empty by but time we reached Patong in about 1 hr it was filled to capacity. I alighted somewhere central, not sure where as it was my first time there , later on I learned it was quite close to Bangla road and to get to hotel I took motorsai. He quoted me 150 , I as instructed by my friend counter offered 100, immediately accepted , still too much for 6 minutes ride , even if uphill but I was in no mood to haggle for another 20 baht. Got room with quite a nice view with Royal Paradise Hotel well visible in a distance so knew immediately where in relation to gay area I’m. My friend was waiting impatiently being hungry so soon after we were climbing to nearby recommended restaurant with the view and one of best chicken with cashews I had this trip. Then we went downhill to central Patong to get grip of the place and as always when one is freshly arrived, curious of every corner and another one already 14 days there who been everywhere dozen times it was basically waste of time for both of us but at least we stopped by one of many booths selling tours and I booked grandly named Tour of the Island for tomorrow morning. Listed price was 1400 but I got it for 900 without even bargaining – lady knew my friend from few tours he booked with her so gave proper price right away. Bottom line there it seems is don’t pay listed price but if you have time , bargain down and if necessary see another 1 or 3 places and see what their price will be. There are tons of offers but it means there’s customer pocket friendly competition. Or at least it’s what it seemed. Seeing my friend is itching to return to hotel as he is leaving tomorrow morning and needs to pack I gladly suggested we do , if only , after refreshening to return to Patong for further exploration , this time alone. Of course first steps to Paradise Complex, I located my hotel I will be moving in tomorrow, Cruise club across it , big Zag club beside in the same soi. Soi seemed full and busy then surveyed parallel soi with massage shops where one of the guys caught my eye so I enroll his services. 500 for the shop. Further compensation was discussed inside in the process already when my suggestion he can remove his clothes as it’s too hot was countered with 3000 request. Sorry I only look as first timer so told him , no, just go on with massage. “ how much you give me ?” he still had hopes for business , “l000’ was my offer and we settled on 1500. To be honest , still too much for what I got but it’s OK, finally my first Phuket boy. After that I treated myself with banana pancake for 80 ( I just paid 30 few days ago at Sukhotai for the same ) , went to see famous Bangla Road and was amazed how crowded it was that late. Certainly Patong visitors like their fun and after declining proposals from 3 or 7 ladies of the night there I returned to hotel.

Day 2 I woke up at 9 AM, a mix of giddiness and jetlag clouding my senses, and made my way down to the breakfast buffet at the Ibis. Opting out of the prepaid breakfast during my reservation — a decision driven by my plan to eat minimally, only enough calories to keep me from keeling over in a sauna or dungeon if I were so lucky — I paid 199 Baht for the meal. The mint chicken and rice were so delectable that I indulged in a second serving, an unexpected treat amidst my hectic schedule. I was thrilled to discover that the Ibis was hosting a gay pool party on its rooftop that evening, a serendipitous welcome for me. However, I had already arranged to meet a companion through Siam Road, run by fellow poster Moses. My initial apprehensions about navigating Bangkok's vibe and concerns about potential communication barriers were quickly proven unfounded, and the companion proved to be unnecessary - but more on that later. The first major agenda of the day, aside from the unforgettable massage experience technically this same day, again my grasp of time and reality are still ruptured, was a visit to Prime Massage for an authentic Thai massage. Remembering the advice to wait two hours after eating, I used this time to hit the gym, running on adrenaline and excitement — after all, it was the main event, my birthday. The rooftop gym and pool offered a fantastic view, though the greenhouse-like gym design made for a sweltering workout. After freshening up — I now understand why so many posts on this board mention showers and showering, it became a recurring theme of frequent showers necessitated by Bangkok's humid climate and my intimate excursions — I headed straight to Prime Massage. Opting for a one-hour session at 300 Baht felt almost too good to be true. The massage, delivered by a fit, young masseur, was surprisingly intimate, despite the non-sensual setup and the unflattering pajamas I was forced to wear. His technique, involving close physical contact and a lack of hesitation around personal boundaries, was both professional and deeply relaxing. He laid on top of me, rolled around me, letting me feel his tight body, and let his hands go where they needed to go without flinching, even if it came to grazing my thankfully soft penis. I was a bit nervous I was going to be hard as a rock and thrown out as just another proud American sex freak. Post-massage, I ventured out to explore the landmarks of Silom, a district I had only recently become acquainted with through Gay Guides. My first stop was X-One Currency Exchange, known for its favorable rates and efficient service - a great Google review and I believe I had seen it mentioned here a few times. The process was quick, and I was impressed by the excellent English spoken by the staff, as well as the constant smiles and 'wai' bows that seemed to be a charming staple of Thai culture. With cash in hand, I began my exploration like an excited child, even snapping photos in broad daylight in front of the legendary Tawan Bar, Super Pussy, and Jupiter 2018 as if they were the Eiffel Tower, Christ the Redeemer, and Great Pyramids of Giza. My stroll along Silom Road was pleasant, noting the cleanliness and orderliness typical of an emerging market economy, although later encounters with carefree rats would add a different dimension to the experience later that evening. My next anticipated visit was to Arena Massage. Arriving in the early afternoon - again after another shower in the hotel - at a seemingly decrepit plaza, I initially doubted my choice. I seemed to have wandered on to the set of World War Z, a post-apocalyptic scene, until I spotted a welcoming wave from a fit, middle-aged man several stories above and the sight of the "Arena Massage for Men" banner reassured me: I had indeed arrived at my intended destination. As I ascended the steps of the plaza to enter Arena, I was immediately struck by the atmosphere — it was exactly as one poster had described: akin to a car mechanic's shop. The setting was raw and unrefined, with men resembling rugged brutes grunting and scowling at each other as they worked out in a gym setup reminiscent of a prison yard. This gritty ambiance and unhinged testosterone was making what the kids used to say… flood my basement. However, just as I was immersing myself in this prison/mechanic porn fantasy, I was pulled back to reality by the man who had been waving at me earlier. He reminded me of an elf from a video game, appearing suddenly to offer an urgent clue. He guided me to a leather seat and began explaining the various options available — the "menu," so to speak. Despite my extensive research on Gay Guides and a fair understanding of what to expect, I feigned surprise, cooing and oohing as he described the allure of the VIP room, and offer up a complimentary Coca-Cola. Then came the moment of the lineup — about five beefy guys, each exuding a mix of bravado and charm. They flexed, posed, smiled, smirked, and scowled, each trying to catch my attention. Despite being forewarned about the intensity of this moment, I found myself overwhelmed, my heart racing. In a desperate attempt to stall for time, I awkwardly asked the maître d', "They all look so great, who would you choose?" Amidst nervous laughter - I am sure with panic in my eyes, I finally settled on a light-skinned masseur who stood out as the quintessential model of muscular perfection, smiling and posing shirtless as if he were on the stage of Mr. Olympia. Abruptly the pageantry stopped like with a screeching proverbial record scratch, and the men went back to business scowling, lifting weights, dispassionately eating take out etc. With my mind still reeling from the selection process and my chosen masseur momentarily out of sight, my attention was inadvertently drawn to another striking masseur. He stood shirtless, his jeans precariously low exposing his fat ass and rippling abs, and he caught my gaze with a look that mingled bemusement and perhaps a hint of bitterness. He added to the tension by teasingly grabbing himself, then returned to his workout, his actions playfully taunting and reigniting a wave of panic within me. I found myself second-guessing my choice, wondering if I should awkwardly ask for a do-over and select this bad boy masseur over the one I had initially chosen, who exuded an angelic aura. However, before I could spiral further into this delirious rabbit hole, my Mr. Olympia reappeared and gestured for me to follow him upstairs. As he led the way, I noticed that he, too, appeared shorter than when he stood in the lineup. This realization of height disparity was becoming a recurring and somewhat amusing theme in my Bangkok experience. The VIP Room proved to be a wise choice. It featured a large bed and an en-suite shower, which I took advantage of before the session began. Mr. Olympia, following my lead, also headed for the shower, but surprisingly, he did so fully clothed. This peculiar behavior reignited my sense of panic. I began to question his shyness and wondered if he would return in those same frumpy pajamas I had encountered at Prime. Doubts about my choice resurfaced, and I found myself longing for the bad boy, knowingly, now taking residence in my head rent-free. However, my worries were soon put to rest when he returned to the massage bed, where I lay anxiously awaiting, fully nude. He appeared to be in his twenties, with flawlessly smooth skin and strikingly good looks. His massage technique was strong and proficient, albeit not exactly what I had anticipated for the session after Prime but steps above my Grindr connection. Nonetheless, as the hour progressed, the experience evolved into something more aligned with my expectations. He took his time giving me a wonderful blowjob and allowed me to rim and finger him until climax. I was a bit disappointed there was no sex - my goodness, I was getting greedy - but frankly, there was nothing to be disappointed about having a god-like man do the things we did to each other. Back to the shower and then to the lobby for more awkwardness as I paid 1900 baht, and the elf snatched the 100 baht change as his tip. I’m sure he caught my look of horror as I was too slow to snatch it myself. As I sauntered to the door to greet Mr Olympia one last time, I was reminded of the minimum tip of 1000 baht. I offered it up. Fumbling with the colorful money still not sure what it all meant and think was this $ 1000 US dollar in my ongoing exhausted joyride. I offered up the minimum tip with a swirl of elation and disappointment but soon regretted that and assured myself I would return and give him a bonus tip as it was an amazing massage experience – and perhaps a visit with that Bad Boy. — to be continued, Crazy Things At Night - the Pool Party, Siam Roads, Sauna Mania, Circus, DJ Station, GOD

TRIP REPORT DAY 1 Finally... Today in arrived in Bangkok. It was the first time my flight was at a gate at the remote airport terminal. So I had to take the train to the main terminal. As we all know: quite some walking required at BKK to finally get to passport control. I didn't bother to look for a priority lane for business class passengers as many desks in the "normal" area were open with just two or three people in front of each desk. So entering the kingdom went very smoothly. No landing card anymore to fill in. Just give them your passport and boarding card. While waiting for my baggage I took enough bahts from the atm to cover a few days and bought a Thai simcard. I went to the public taxi bays. No cues. And before I knew it I was in the taxi on my way to Silom. I arrived at my hotel around 2pm. Room in Ibis Styles Silom was already available. Check in could be a bit more time efficient in this hotel. I was tired after my long flights. So I decided to have a nap after I first stocked up in the 7eleven around the corner. Couldn't resist to open Grindr. My non-representative research conslusion: many freelancers on Grindr ask 3000baht for st but almost all of them are willing to come visit you in your hotel room for 2000. Not much negotiation skills needed for them to drop the price. FRESHBOYS After a good sleep it was time to go out for my first night in Bangkok since more than a year. Excited to see what has changed and what has stayed the same. After a quick Thai bite at Pride in soi4 I walked to Patpong soi 2. Last times I was in Bangkok I had good experiences in Freshboys (my taste of boys plus nice show, the ladyboy they had was good and even had a fire act) so I decided that was going to be my first stop of the night. Convenient sign outside with showtimes. I watched the first show full, and part of the second show. The timings were correct, but the kind of acts the perform is not completely as how they advertise it on the board outside. The ladyboy performing tonight was not the same as before, was oké but not so good. Rest of show was what you expect as a veteran and can be a bit boring when you've seen all many times before. Around 25 boys on rotation. Bare chested, only wearing white sportshorts. Mix between skinnier twins to guys with abs and light muscled bodies. The last categorie is the kind of guys I like. Unfortunately most of this type of boys in the bars are top, while I'm looking for bottoms. A not (very) pushy papasan helped me out by writing down numbers of many of the bottoms or "can do all"-types. Unfortunately the 3 favorites I had were not on his list. More thorough research concluded in that one of my favorites actually would be able to bottom. Happy me. But I was not ready for my pick of the day yet. It was still too early and had other places to check. So I politely promised I will be back another night and took the paper with all the numbers papasan wrote down with me. Convenient to take with me next time I go to freshboys. Hopefully same boys keep same number though. THE ONE / TAWAN It was around 23h24 when I arrived at The One. I remembered they always had a midnight show so I planned to go there to check it out. But... I didn't even get inside as the friendly guys outside told me show was already over. Only at 22h45 the have a show apparently now. Maybe this is different in weekends, as it is Monday now with less customers. Have to get back to The One on an earlier evening. HOTMALE Back to Patpong soi 2 I went. Decided to check out Hotmale. They had some upgrades. New logo that is on some of the outside signs and even on the glassware inside. Also inside some small changes, mainly new led-lightning on the wall. The just-after-midnight-show was about to start according to the papasan. I double checked as I could only see 2 other customers inside. But the secured me the show was going to start anyway. The 22h30 show is more busy normally according to staff. Around 15 boys on rotation. Red long (!?) sporttrousers and while most of the boys where bare chested, some did wear a hotmale shirt. I directly spotted a familiar face between them. One of my offs the last time I was in Bangkok. He was smiling naughty at me. I instantly knew: this boy is coming home with me tonight. Nice 6 pack, cute smile. And I remember some good advise from this forum : always go for boys that make eye contact with you so they are "interested" and more likely to "give better quality of service". During the show no new customers arrived. So the boys ended up doing it for only me and 2 other customers. Felt a bit embarrassing actually. My boy was in the show. He was doing a dance act and is part of the big cock parade. So I made sure I "reserved" him to come sit with me after the show. During the show more naughty looks to eachother were exchanged. Apparently it was bit clear to all other boys that I already made my decision as two others kept fighting desperate for my attention (and money). Talking about money: price for entrance plus drink in Hot ale went up to 500baht. Off-fee (500) and tip for boy (2000 for st) still the same. A good first night in Bangkok!

This is my first trip after I called it quits in the corporate world. I would've made this the trip earlier but didn't want to burn bridges with my ex-employer. Anyway, let's just jump to Day 1. Day 1: Arrived at the airport around noon. There seems to be a VIP in swampy during my arrival as there was a portion that was cordoned off to the public, and a few camera men on standby. Surprised with the paperless immigration process, this is an improvement - at least in the ecological sense. Took the skytrain to the silom area - where my hotel was located and decided to do some fruit shopping in the basement supermarket of silom complex. They no longer give plastic bags for free, instead they sell it for 1 Baht. I also found an affordable prepaid sim available on AIS shop - 50 baht for the sim, 200 baht for the month long 30GB internet and unlimited wifi for a month. The store clerk mentioned that I can keep the sim active by topping up 20 Baht per month. This seems to be a better deal for me than having to buy the tourist sim every time I come to Thailand. While in the shopping mall, nature called. I was surprised to see quite active cruising happening. Both local and farangs were obviously cruising. Saw a few above average cocks that are surely stage worthy in the nearby bars. At first I thought this would be a good alternative than hitting the bars, but the often interruptions by the cleaners was a downer. I wonder which other places have cruisy facilities in Bangkok? After checking in to my hotel, resting and freshening up, it's time to hit the night life. I tried small Joe salad place just below the BTS station. It seems to be good value for 300 Baht, I had a medium salad and entree. After dinner, I went straight for Tawan. I was surprised to see different handsome touts now welcoming the customers. The owner/cashier is stationed at the entrance to collect the 500 Baht fee. The place was the same as I last visited but with the added 2nd floor of the stage. When show time started, the crowd had ballooned and the crew added plastic stools in front to original setup. The customers' drinks were capriciously placed behind them on the existing small round tables. And as expected, they experienced at least one spillage every night that I was there. I saw some old faces and some new ones. One of my fave muscle guy was on this bulking phase, so not the type that I would off . So after a short hi/hello, he got the point and left me with the other guys sticking by. K who I had the hots for was on form, and he seems to have grown body hairs which is a plus. But I am wary to off him, as I think I would easily fall for him. Some new muscle guys were present, some a few non muscle guy - bordering on the rough looking ones also now part of the rosters. At around 1045pm the show thankfully started without the long welcome to Tawan prologue in 3 different languages. Unfortunately though, it was opened by a traditional Thai dance, and followed by a couple of cabaret acts. I think it was already 11pm when Ten's candle act started, which was followed by the usual muscle show, bdsm, and big cock show then another set of cabaret acts and then culminated with the fuck show and the aborted chuck wow show since there were very few tips despite the large crowd.

Hey! Just came back from a work trip but here's Days 11-12. Post trip reflections to follow. 😁 Days 11-12 I woke up with Tee still sound asleep. I tried to carefully wiggle out and move his legs off me but he instinctively pulled me back that I could feel his gentle snoring and his robust morning wood. "Not yet", I told myself. I may be a horn dog but at the moment, my body is craving for caffeine more than anything else. He's already awake when I stepped out of the shower. When I asked what he wants to eat for breakfast, he smiled and pointed at my phone which is good as I'm feeling lazy being out anyway. He ordered rice porridge while I opted for croissants, cold cuts and mangoes delivered. The croissant was surprisingly semi-fresh and Tee seemed to enjoy devouring two ham and cheese croissants I made. We chatted a bit more with him telling his story on how he survived the pandemic including how he got back into shape. He also talked about his experiences being in the trade and some weird experiences and requests he receives from customers. This made me cringe thinking what story he will be telling his mates about me. After a while, Tee stood up and motioned he's going to the shower. He removed the towel from his waist and draped it over his shoulder. "Come with me?" he asked. He's already hard down there. While I already showered and know this might be a ploy to extract more tip, this is one of those tricks I really don't mind falling into! By mid afternoon, I decided to book Knott at S'sense. I was tempted to check if the Prince spa (also in Suan Plu) is open but given I'm at the tail end of my trip, I decided to play it safe. Knott instantly recognised me and was smiling as he lead me up that endless flight of stairs. I'm happy to report that the experience with him was consistent, if not, better than the last time. I chose to spend my last night in Tawan. The Uncle hastily led me in and have me seated inside (no more disclaimer from him about BDSM boy show!). I saw Tun busy chatting with a couple of customers. After a few minutes, I was approached by one bar boy, shook my hands and asked if he can sit with me. BDSM show is not really my thing but I tried to enjoy and amuse myself with random stuff while watching. The clincher for me that night was one performance where they apparently intend to put a nipple clamp on one performer. However, rather than an actual nipple clamp, they improvised and used a large clothespin instead. The fact that both clampds are coloured pastel purple made me chuckle a bit. While I'm enjoying the show, I'm struggling to feel any sort of spark with the guy seated next to me. I think it's because he jumped the gun and switched straight to and used the transactional tone quite quickly. I mean don't get me wrong. I'm not naive of what patrons and people who work in this kind of place are aiming for. But I guess, investing more time to create rapport really goes a long way. I politely declined, gave him his tip and he was back in rotation. A few minutes later, I felt a gentle tap on my shoulder. It was Tun. "Hello my wife!" He whispered. I replied sarcastically pointing to the two guests he was chatting with and corrected him that those two are his wives. "No, they go home now" he said. We both had a laugh. Once seated, Tun seems to be working fast to secure the deal. He's extra touchy feely, sneakily kissing my neck, his hands wandering everywhere under my shirt. He even grabbed my hand and directed it down his crotch area. I was a bit flustered with the last one as I'm not used to this kind of public display - even when in a boy bar in Thailand! Moments later, Tun casually mentioned he's getting sleepy and suggest we "go home sleep together". I nodded, finished our drinks and made our way out. Just like last time, we did a quick pitstop at 7-11 before heading back to my apartment. Tun quickly made himself at home which is one of the beauty of a repeat transaction. The expectations and dynamics are somehow established and there are less unknowns compared to bringing in a new guy. While there's the risk of monotony and overfamiliarity down the line, I chose to ignore that for now given that this is my last night and it will be months before I return to Tawan. I will worry about it by then. Overall, my second time with Tun still exceeded my expectations. Given that I already had a session with Tee (morning) and Knott (afternoon), I was quite surprised and kinda proud of myself for capping off the day with another one. I think how Tun engages both in and out of the bedroom makes the difference. I may be generalising but from experience, I usually have better experience with MBs/bar boys/masseurs who are a bit older. Could be maturity? Less appetite for dramatics? Old enough to know the value of money so they tend to equate level of service? or considered old and less marketable by trade standards hence compensating through better service? Honestly, I don't know. Good thing though is that Asian guys who are in their 30s are still eye candies. We woke up a lot late than usual. Quite disappointed that with this late start, I wont be able to do my planned last massage session before flying out. It didn't help that Tun lingered even after I gave him his tip. Seriously, how do you tell a hunky, freshly showered, half naked Tawan guy to leave? I then had a light bulb moment that includes him dropping the towel wrapped around his waist and us marching back to the room. My last hurrah for this trip. With the above disappointment taken cared of, we had a relaxed lunch outside the apartment. When we finished, I handed him an extra tip which is the amount I set aside to tip my supposed to be masseur for today - then off we went our separate ways. This left me with a couple more hours before my pre booked airport pickup arrive. Plenty of time to pack up, get myself sorted and reflect a bit before saying a temporary goodbye to this gorgeous city.