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How Russian teenagers are being locked up for expressing dissent
Ruthrieston and 4 others reacted to vinapu for a topic
Senility and dementia already sets in ? He is not that old ? You may be persecuted for revealing state secrets5 points -
Don't be too shy. Things will get better!
Ruthrieston and 3 others reacted to spoon for a topic
Maybe for Str8 mb, finding a BF to rely on for your expense isn't in the picture. Those who i know personally also have a wife and children or at least a steady GF, so they start to think about that future too. Meanwhile, young gay MB still hoping of an easy life and won lottery of a sugar daddy or rich boyfriend who will take care of their financial till death.4 points -
Don't be too shy. Things will get better!
Ruthrieston and 3 others reacted to bkkmfj2648 for a topic
And this is extremely hard. I have tried to engrain this mindset with several of the guys that I became close to over the years and I have failed in 98% of the cases. Why? Us as outsiders, we are fighting very strong cultural norms. Such as: 1.) Family back home is first and foremost priority - as the social security pension system here is intentionally inadequate by the government - because the government knows that the youngsters must take care of their elders. 2.) Poor families are often the ones who are intentionally sending 1 or 2 of their chosen children (once they are of legal age) down to Pattaya to earn easy money for the family. Often the child is pressured to do it for the family. 3.) Thailand is part of the collectivism mindset. I see this day after day here - if one person is down and out financially the others chip in to help. Unfortunately, due to the previously stated above 2 points + bad or zero education spent on financial saving and budgeting skills, this collectivism mechanism never allows any one individual to climb out of this downward financial spiral. The only way is for said Thai person to leave and/or remove himself from this group of friends - for which, 98% of the time they will not do it because then they would lose face. Therefore, I do not see a light at the end of the tunnel for our guys unless perhaps we remove the one that we care about the most by moving him out of Thailand? Thoughts?4 points -
Don't be too shy. Things will get better!
Ruthrieston and 3 others reacted to Raposa for a topic
It’s a type of mind set conditioned by an impoverished background. Attitudes to spending are often driven by immediate needs, rather than long-term planning, due to the difficulties and uncertainties of living in poverty.4 points -
It’s almost unheard of people demanding tips in cash at restaurants or bars in Brazil. By law a 10-13% tip can be added to all bills (and most restaurants do that) and you pay it together with the rest of the bill - with CC , Pix or money. Sure, restaurant workers would love if you leave a cash tip - as most restaurants take a tax cut from it - but they don’t expect it. You even can say you will not pay the tip (they are obliged to remove it - but I would not advice doing it, you will be acknowledged as persona non grata).3 points
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Oh, yeah, Putin personally came to this colony... I doubt what Putin even remember name of Navalny3 points
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donOLD says "Oink Oink"
stevenkesslar and one other reacted to Goober for a topic
Donald Trump Allegedly Named the 'Fattest' U.S. President in Over a Century https://www.inquisitr.com/donald-trump-allegedly-named-the-fattest-u-s-president-in-over-a-century President-elect Donald Trump's love for fast food has long captivated people, as evidenced by his obsession with pizza, burgers, Diet Coke, and fried foods frequently featured in interviews, social media, and staff memoirs. His food choices, according to observers, are a reflection of his political views as well as his tastes. Beyond the obvious health concerns—high fat, calories, and a lack of nutrients—critics have also highlighted the heavy doses of chemicals and preservatives in his meals. Adding to the buzz, a report earlier this year declared Trump the fattest U.S. president in over a century.2 points -
How Russian teenagers are being locked up for expressing dissent
Ruthrieston and one other reacted to vinapu for a topic
We are not talking about THAT Navalny. We were talking about dissident killed in penal colony. I doubt even they are related2 points -
How Russian teenagers are being locked up for expressing dissent
Ruthrieston and one other reacted to unicorn for a topic
Not recognized by YOU, personally, as politically motivated (supposedly, although I doubt that even that's true). Everybody, including those judges, recognized that the charges were politically motivated, although that was not their task. Their task was to decide whether the trial deviated from fair international standards for legal proceedings, and the document you produced proved just that: "FOR THESE REASONS, THE COURT 1. Decides, unanimously, to join the applications; 2. Declares, unanimously, the complaints under Articles 6 and 7 of the Convention admissible and, by a majority, the remainder of the applications inadmissible; 3. Holds, unanimously, that there has been a violation of Article 6 § 1 of the Convention;" Or, more specifically: "102. The Court observes that the applicants’ complaints about the manner in which evidence was admitted and assessed and the way the witnesses were examined converge on the same underlying allegation that the criminal proceedings against X and the two applicants had been structured in a way which rendered the proceedings as a whole unfair. They effectively alleged that X’s conviction in separate accelerated proceedings had been instrumental in circumventing important guarantees they would have been entitled to if all three co-accused had been tried together. Likewise, the complaint lodged under Article 6 § 2 of the Convention about the formulae used in the judgment against X and the prejudicial impact which that had on the applicants’ sentence, essentially refers to the same underlying issue. It follows that even though each of the complaints under Article 6 §§ 1, 2 and 3(d) of the Convention would in principle be capable of raising a separate issue under the Convention, in the present case it is appropriate to treat the specific allegations as elements of general fairness. 103. In the present case, the criminal charges against the applicants were based on the same facts as those against X, and the three individuals were accused of conspiring to steal the same assets. It is therefore undeniable that any facts established in the proceedings against X and any legal findings made therein would have been directly relevant to the applicants’ case. In such circumstances, it was essential for safeguards to be in place to ensure that the procedural steps and decisions taken in the proceedings against X would not undermine the fairness of the hearing in the subsequent proceedings against the applicants. This was particularly so, given that the applicants were legally precluded from any form of participation in the disjoined proceedings as they had not been granted any status which would have allowed them to challenge the decisions and findings made therein. 104. The Court has previously highlighted the first and most obvious guarantee to be secured when co-accused are tried in separate sets of proceedings, notably the courts’ obligation to refrain from any statements that may have a prejudicial effect on the pending proceedings, even if they are not binding (see Karaman, cited above, §§ 42-43 and 64-56). If the nature of the charges makes it unavoidable for the involvement of third parties to be established in one set of proceedings and those findings would be consequential on the assessment of the legal responsibility of the third parties tried separately, this should be considered as a serious obstacle for disjoining the cases. Any decision to examine cases with such strong factual ties in separate criminal proceedings must be based on a careful assessment of all countervailing interests, and the co-accused must be given an opportunity to object to the cases being separated. 105. The second requirement for the conduct of concurrent proceedings is that the quality of res judicata would not be attached to facts admitted in a case to which the individuals were not party. The state of the evidence admitted in one case must remain purely relative and its effect strictly limited to that particular set of proceedings. In other words, in the present case no finding of fact made in the proceedings against X could have been admitted in the applicants’ case without full and proper examination at the applicants’ trial. Moreover, the procedure followed by the court in X’s case had been accelerated, and the establishment of facts had been a result of plea-bargaining, not the judicial examination of evidence. Consequently, the facts relied on in that case had been legally assumed rather than proven. As such, they could not have been transposed to another set of criminal proceedings without their admissibility and credibility being scrutinised and validated in those other proceedings, in an adversarial manner, like all other evidence. 106. These two basic requirements have not been complied with in the present case...". It seems you guessed incorrectly that no one would actually look at your reference, and you'd get away with another one of your lies. Your lack of shame is simply astounding. You have absolutely NO capacity for shame for your lies.2 points -
New number 41 at Freshboys is 22 years old from Vietnam. Doesn't speak much English. It was his birthday 2 weeks ago and he invited my regular guy to his birthday celebration. "He's so young!" my regular guy, who is 28, said to me. "It's only 6 years difference," I said. I believe my regular guy is feeling insecure now that he is nearing 30. Number 41's previous number was 39. I saw him on a Thursday night and had supper (and even played chess) with him and my regular guy after bar closed. On Friday and Saturday nights, he had offs!2 points
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Don't be too shy. Things will get better!
Ruthrieston and one other reacted to spoon for a topic
Perhaps they need to remember that most gays will not have son or daughter to rely on when we are older, unlike our str8 counterpart. Tiny portion may resort to get married anyway due to family pressure but im sure guy like Min who has string principle will not consider that. Another consideration is to adopt, and it does seems thailand upcoming marriage bills will allow this to happen legally. But based on my observation of the current gays population, most will be childless. So, it is even more important for us to be self dependent during our retirement time. And for those who work as MB, they only have a very limited windows to earn money with their looks. Alas, as many have point out, MB with this kind of quality are rare indeed. Those i know who have this kind of thinking are surprisingly, the str8 MBs.2 points -
I think it’s a reference to both old #41 at Freshboys who garnered a few comments on this forum during the last month but who recently retired, and also to the new replacement #41 at the same place.2 points
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I did get some "offers" from a couple of the guys at Space bar, but when I was ready to take them up on them, they quickly backed down. Just teasing. With the large number of customers in the bar every night, just imagine how much those hot, handsome hunks could make if they were willing to go with customers. I remember thinking about the absolute fortune the cute and very naughty guy who flirted with me every night could make if he worked at Moonlight. He would give Babe a run for his money. But then again, prostitution isn't for everyone and I respect their choice.2 points
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it there will be stage, hope that utilize spoon's idea of it being gym themed bar. I any case guys in upper row are clearly big time overdressed2 points
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How Russian teenagers are being locked up for expressing dissent
Ruthrieston and one other reacted to Travelingguy for a topic
I am so sick of Russian propaganda. Even after all these years, it still turns my stomach.2 points -
Don't be too shy. Things will get better!
Ruthrieston and one other reacted to vinapu for a topic
You sound like Moses with his percentages and statistics. " Considerably more" still doesn't mind anything close to fortune. "Three times as much as friend " may mean all of 1200 baht, nice sum to earn but still far from fortune or even base to start building post-bar future. Few guys no doubt do well due to mix of good looks , hard work and smarts, saving money and investing it in something productive, I know two who built houses , one bought pick up truck and started renting it but I doubt most of them have much to show for their troubles, partially because constant demand from folks at home to send money. Another issue I see is lack of money managment skills. Whenever I hear boy living by Silom soi 10 , easy walk, or in soi Pluk Chit by Lumpini MRT station are coming to work in Patpong by taxi I shiver2 points -
Are you sure it's street 300 ? I think you meant street 330, that's short street facing Tuol Sleng Prison. Love Spa is on street 350 , two blocks south of 330. I second your take on Hatha Khmer , great facilities , massages and crew I wouldn't stay in neither Rambutan nor Arthur and Paul next door for exactly opposite reason you did not like Sun and Moon - too quiet and too far from the center although with transport easily available it's not big issue. My massage at A and P was bit disappointing , shiny facilities but no soap in shower ? I agree that staying there could be exciting as stuff seem to be willing although when I was there nobody was THAT outstanding but I may be matter of taste. I'd never stay in Sun and Moon neither across the street in Queenwood hotels ( or is it Woodqueen?) for simple reason . Both are right by Space Hair and even if one finds guy there interested in seeing stamp collection , he my not be interested at all in being seen to enter either hotel as they are very discreet about their outside of bar activities if any.2 points
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Last night, I sat in my favorite haunt with J., my regular boy, whom I have been taken off almost every day whenever I'm in Pattaya since last Dec (1-year anniversary coming up). As usual, I asked him to pick a friend to sit with us. J., from Laos, called T., another Laos boy, over. He said "Although we are not close, I want to help him. I hardly ever saw he had customers. " T. is slim, not bad looking but quiet and reserved in manner (kinda out of place in this kind of bar), and on the older side in terms of barboy age (28). We talked and he indeed had few customers. Been working here for nearly two months, only 4 off so far, not so many drinks either, so he barely made it. While we were chatting, a customer, who was sitting alone at the next table, looked on with interest. Then he asked me in English if T. is also working in the bar, probably because he was fully dressed while all other boys (including my own) were shirtless. Feeling an opportunity is presenting itself, I confirmed and asked if he wanted to sit with the boy, explaining that although T. was sitting with us, I'm more than glad to let him switch tables. The guy appeared he wasn't sure what to do, saying that he's pretty new to the scene and still trying to figure out how things work. So T. remained at our table but the customer joined in the conversation on a translation-chain basis, meaning he said something to me in English, I Google-translated into Laos then showed it to J. who in turns repeated to T. It went like that for a while, and all of a sudden, the customer said loudly, to no one in particular, "It would be better if he takes off his shirt". When that idea finally reached T. down the translation line, he still looked sort of uncertain about what to do. It was time something needs to be done to speed things up. So I stood up, marched over to T., who was sitting across the table, and took off his shirt with my hands. Then I chaperoned both him and his drink to the next table, and gently pushed him down next to the customer. Now T. can communicate directly with the customer using google translation. Things started going smoother and the customer ordered two more drinks for himself and T. The customer is Dutch but lives in Spain. He said he is quite reserved himself so has great affinity for a shy boy like T., who, in the customer's words, obviously was not self-aware of how handsome he is. The customer himself is not bad-looking either, and J. confirmed he checked off several things on a bar boy's list "neat-looking, polite, no body odor, not too old, not too fat." "I'm not gonna take advantage of the boy the first time we talk. I can't promise that the next time though." He said. Gentlemanly conduct, but me think "Please. He's ready to be taken advantage of. That's why he's working here". Then I noticed there was still some (physical) distance between T. and the customer, who sat ramrod straight. I told J., who told T. to get closer. Since T. still didn't look like he knows what to do, I gestured for him to follow my lead: I nudged closer to J., hugged him, rested my head lightly on his shoulder, and placed a peck on his cheek. T., albeit a bit haltingly, followed suit, down to the pecking part. The customer, obviously seeing the whole thing, looked both amused and happy. He declared "I've been here for only three days and I'm already in love!" Again, I told J., who reminded T. to ask for the customer's contact. They later parted ways with what looks like a big tip for T. and the promise by the customer that he will come back and talk to the boy again tomorrow. I believe, he, being such a gentleman, will keep his word. I also believe I would make a good Mamasan in case I need a side job. To end on a warm note: late into the night, after J. went back to his room, I came back to the bar to watch the soi winding down. I looked inside and saw T., now totally shirtless, dancing energetically with other boys, smiling broadly when he saw me. He seemed to get that confidence boost he needed. Then I sat at the bar outside, chatted with the bartender and watched people. Somehow I might look a bit lonely and sad, to the point that another gentleman, who'd obviously mistaken me for someone in need of a customer, came to give me a hug upon leaving the bar and whispered in my ear "Don't be too shy. Things will get better!"1 point
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Fercho's Amigos (Masajes) Christmas Party - Dec 19th
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Fercho's is now fully installed at the Hotel Roma in Centro. They are hosting their first Christmas event on December 19th at the hotel. Entry is 30.000COP and they are advertising over 30 "modelos" onsite for the event. As always, any rooms and activities are at an additional cost, although they will be conducting their classic raffle (rifa) where you can win the services of one or more boys for an entry ticket that costs 25.000COP. Multiple draws throughout the day. Should also note that they have expanded their current roster of boys, and the catalogue images are much more explicit. You can request a current listing via WhatsApp at +57 312 2717925.1 point -
Tunisia, Sousse , Djerba, Oct 2024
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Goodbye, Bangkok
KeepItReal reacted to reader for a topic
Left Bangkok last week for my twenty second year (have long forgotten how many individual trips but they must be closing in on 60). There we’re two things that stand out. First, was the opening of the first new gay bar in quite a while with the Dragon and Koi on Patpong 2. I believe it’s destined to do well, judging by the reception it’s energetic dancers have been receiving. Second, it’s the evolution of the massage business in Saphan Kwai. Although most of the shops are continuing to do wel due to the Continued arrival of newcomers, it’s the opening of Phoenix on Soi Inthamara 25 that stablished itself as unique. It’s all in, full service approach is superior to the competition because it eliminates the haggling. Eventually, I think, other shops will have to adopt the same policy or see their trade stagnate. One of my favorite moments each evening was opening the balcony doors and at about 1a.m. and listening to the muffled sounds of the workers collapsing the vendors stands on Patpong. My favorite view at sunset looking toward the river. Departure next morning from BKK wss nearly effortless, using the new immigration gate system. First one checks passport and second gate your photo .1 point -
Wondering what the new Syrian government will be like...
stevenkesslar reacted to Suckrates for a topic
Usually, a person that "settles for anything" "stands for Nothing". That's not true in your case. You are normally a VERY driven and committed girl.... So I will allow you THIS transgression.1 point -
Too gorgeous to be guilty?
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Which of his loved ones had a claim denied by UHC?1 point -
donOLD says "Oink Oink"
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Corporate media has agreed the following terms are verboten Glutton Girdle Plump Portly Tubby1 point -
Biggest winners and losers
Marc in Calif reacted to stevenkesslar for a topic
No. You are programmed to want to suck anti-Homo Hegseth's cock. That's pretty much it. You are an idolizing fan boy for a Gay bashing womanizing alcoholic who is clearly incompetent. You would happily suck his cock any day of the week, and idolize his anti-Homo behavior, while he and Trump take back a generation of gains. Like Gays in the military. That is exactly the kind of unprincipled, weak, self-loathing Gay man you are.1 point -
President Trump's Priorities
stevenkesslar reacted to Suckrates for a topic
Well today 12/16/24 we get another school shooting, this one in Madison Wisconsin, at a religious school. Several dead including the shooter, who was a minor, attending the school..... Pull out those "thoughts and prayers" again, and offer them in the usual cold, deadpan way.... One thing we know, Trumps priorities are NOT gun control or children. He's too busy wining and dining with his billionaire buddys, preparing those huge tax cuts for them, and pressuring them to Donate to his Inauguration, or else he WONT favor them. . No time to SAVE kids. 😇1 point -
Pattaya to Host Historic Marriage Equality Celebration
Ruthrieston reacted to vinapu for a topic
first family friendly , now this, isn't it sweet bordering on sugary ?1 point -
Don't be too shy. Things will get better!
Ruthrieston reacted to vinapu for a topic
I think not only we as outsiders are fighting strong cultural norms well ingrained. We as relatively affluent outsiders in terms of wealth and material possessions may not grasp well choices poor people are facing in their daily lives. And those may be like " do I have 20 baht for ticket to go to work or I better walk ?'' or "today for dinner we have only rice with some carrots because Bank needs new pen for the school". For us taking taxi may be just one of many choices , all of them we can afford. But there are some people who may consider it as treat and luxury and only luxury they can afford from time to time. For such people advice about saving money even if well meant and generally very sound may be otherwordly because horizon is too far. "Walking for two month to work to save 20 baht day and at end of those two months I will have 1000 baht extra ? What this farang is talking about? "1 point -
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donOLD says "Oink Oink"
stevenkesslar reacted to Suckrates for a topic
EmmetK will claim that "his clothes are FAT, NOT him". And then tell us all to "Board the Trump Train 2025" But no worries, RFK Jr will get him FIT, if he doesnt KILL him first1 point -
I'm glad you said the above as it clearly shows that different people subscribe to different type of fun. all you said it may be considered truth but I like that bar ( twice this year I went to Phnom Penh basically with purpose to visit Space Hair ) and atmosphere there. Can't care less about owner and his boyfriends ,they are not a reason I go there. Both nice guys by the way and usually after few rounds I'm treated with free shot of gin or something. I like not intrusive fun boys are offering an yes , that struggle how to get them to meet you after hours. Glad to report I was more successful than not although it did not happen last time I was there in Aug, God is my witness I tried, lol . It looks I misstepped talking tip too soon.1 point
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are you looking at the mirror when typing that? eh?1 point
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Nong Nooch Gardens and Sanctuary of Truth are , I'd say world class attractions, there's also Wat Siem with only original Terracota Warrior outside of China.1 point
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Don't be too shy. Things will get better!
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Considerably More than a regular Thai (or Lao, Viet, Cambodia) 6 day work week 8-12 hrs a day in a construction or hospitality job with the chance of finding sponsors (bf) that will give them monthly payments 🧐1 point -
Patpong comings and goings
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And that decision was the beginning of the demise of BoyzBoyzBoyz (BBB) - as they eliminated what was fun for all of us - nude torso muscular men parading on the red carpet - as they now cater to the Asian female market - where they like their guys to walk around fully clothed - hence no need for an external gym to tantalize all of us while we waited for the 9pm parade. As stated by Vinapu, covid killed off the former exciting and unique BBB parade where the guys marched through ALL of Boyztown. Now that walkway is quite empty.....how sad. Covid has long left all of us but they refuse to bring back what worked. For the sake of historical fun red carpet parade memory: https://www.facebook.com/PanoramaPubPattaya/videos/the-boyz-boyz-boyz-parade-appears-to-be-back-with-the-best-view-from-panorama-pu/1856803917670027/ https://www.facebook.com/reel/395906382853548 https://www.facebook.com/BoystownPattaya/videos/บอยซ์ทาวน์-เปิดให้บริการแล้ว-เพลิดเพลินกับการแสดงเวลา-2130-น-คุณมีทางเลือกซ้ายหร/2869747523321074/?locale=ms_MY1 point -
Getting there, getting there. I'm not one who sights missing former glory but I must say that Aqua Spa is place I miss indeed, I'd venture to say even more than soi Twilight.( in soi Twilight days of glory I was more like massage boys hunter)1 point
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He's number 25. YY is his trade name. If you ever happen to be in Bangkok for one night, would you consider offing him just to chat with him? I think you are a very good listener and you are able to get people to open up to you. He doesn't tell me more about himself (probably because of language barrier) and I feel it's good for him to articulate his thoughts and feelings instead of keeping them bottled in. I sense a lot of angst inside him. You will be conducting some sort of counselling session. Will owe you big time if you can do it. But no worries if you can't!1 point
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I know and I think I heard it all. Some even bragged about their cheating like it's some kind of achievement, to show off how smart they are. Others received money from a farang boyfriend to spend it on their local boyfriend. I guess if I do not trust J. enough, I wouldn't bother about making a deal. Regarding your question, I myself wouldn't go with a boy if I know he's in an exclusive relationship with someone else, whether I know that person or not. It's a matter of principle, which applies in non-commercial situations too. There was this 19 year old boy in JC, whom when I offed him, told me he was single. Then I saw he wearing some brand-name sports clothes and shoes and asked how he could afford those. He said those were gifts from a German customer, who was his friend's boyfriend. A few months ago, the boy contacted me and announced that he opened his own bar in JC. To my "Who gave you the money?", he said it was his own saving. I'm sure it was a lie, so I did a little digging and found out the boy had a German boyfriend (no doubt that "friend's boyfriend" mentioned earlier), who gave him the necessary capital of a few hundred grands to open a bar. It's nobody's surprise that the new bar didn't survive its first month (what that farang was thinking, to let a young boy with no skills and no experiences to run a bar on his own?). The relationship didn't work out either and the boy is now back to freelancing at M-bar, pretty much moneyless, according to my sources. So I guess I did sleep with someone's boyfriend by accident after all hehe. Indeed. Whenever J. told me something, I first gave him the benefit of the doubt. If it later checked out (and it usually did), I trusted him a little more As the payer, I got to dictate the terms hehe, so the emphasis is on J.'s behaviors However, I know that he cares and wishes I could be committed too. When we just started out, every time I mentioned a boy I used to sit with, J. always asked "Did you take him to the room?" (Boys usually don't ask their customers that kind of indiscreet questions about other boys rights?). I told him I sat with a lot of boys but offed relatively few. I like talking and flirting with them, but remain quite selective about whom I would take to my room. There were several trips during which I didn't make a single off (in both Bangkok and Pattaya) just because I didn't feel "clicking" with anyone. Subsequently, J. implied that if I go with other boys, he'd rather I don't tell him (then why he kept asking???). At least for now, I don't feel the need to off other boys. I stopped seeing all my former regular boys, both in Bangkok and Pattaya, and told them I've gone steady with someone for now. I even skipped Bangkok almost completely (maybe stopping over for 1 night once in a while to get updates on the bar scene) so that I can spend more time with J. He can see for himself that when I'm in Pattaya, I take him off every night and usually sit in his bar every night too. I think your "con nuôi" is fortunate to have you in his life. Is that boy No 28 you kept talking about in the other thread? I think I know all the regular Viet boys working at Fresh Boys by face, but can't just match a number with a particular face. Nope, it is a fixed amount every month. The other day, Je., a roommate of J. (there are 5 of them sharing a room for 4K a month, 3 sleeping on the bed, 2 on the floor) was telling me something we already know "MB is no easy job. You wouldn't know all kinds of customers we've been through. There were times I was already naked in the room when the customer made a ridiculous demand. I wanted to put my clothes on and leave, then I think about how I'm gonna pay the rent tomorrow..." His eyes are brimming with tear and it was insensitive of me to ask "What's the worst thing a customer ever did to you?" He started with "A year ago..." and then broke down, not able to continue. "Sorry, I still can't talk about that..." Once Je. went to the toilet, J. told me "Every boy has a similar story to tell. Customers made us cry more than you would think." My inevitable question was "Have I ever made you cry?" He gave me a look "Certainly, but I don't want to talk about it." But I think I know what he referred to. It was that time when I asked my Taiwanese friend to pose as a customer to test J. There were some big misunderstandings on both sides and we almost broke up over it. That night, after finishing work, J. took a couple of his close friends to go sitting on the beach and drinking. Around 4 or 5 am., the friends one by one went home to sleep. J. stayed on, drinking alone on the beach because he was devastated. "I didn't want to go home. I just wanted to keep drinking until I forget who I am." He later told his roommate, who confirmed that he came back to the room around 10 am, crashing almost immediately onto the bed. Fortunately, I arrived in Pattaya that same afternoon and we had a long heart-to-heart that night and cleared up everything. As I said before, although I regret testing J., I did not realize how strong J.'s feeling for me was until that incident. Until then, he never told me he loves me but here is something he told H., my Taiwanese friend, "I love Min. But I don't think I'm worthy of his love because of my job as a money boy."1 point
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Thank you to both XClay and LatBear4blk. There were some small groups of gay guys and couples at the gay beach area of Ipanema today. Some nice-looking younger guys kicking the football around too. Tuesday: Went to Sexy Rose cruising place near Cinelandia Metro stop and Rio City Hall. Got there late, around 1530 hours. Got into a hot 3 way with some folks that also had just arrived and was happy by 1600 hours. No idea why I have such great luck at S R sometimes. Just average looking, etc. The other 2 guys must have been the winners of the Mr Brazil slut contest and like energizer bunnies, they kept going and going...... They were still at it when I left at 1700 for dinner. S R was getting quite busy at that time, but I was hungry and 117 awaited as well. Then walked to Gloria and 117. Was there from 1800+ to around 2145 hours. It was packed when I arrived. If I hadn't cum a couple hours earlier, I would have spent major R$ as the muscle and the few twinks GP talent was excellent. Met a few punters, including from a prior trip - all still very friendly and very much admiring the view. The show at 2000 hrs or so was 3 dancers, no stripping and it got very tedious as they were the entire show and the music was too loud. Many punters left the ACd show room. At 2130 a drag queen show started and first one needed some major cosmetic assistance. Oh well. The music was unbearably loud and again, many punters left in a few short minutes, including yours truly. FWIW, in talking to fellow admirers of the GPs rates up to 300 R$ were noted. Inflation? Newbie punters? At least one well-known long-term customer noted higher rates vs a few years ago. Many old faces and many new ones too (GPs and punters). I think my chest got an inch larger due to the steroids leaching out. LOL. 117 might have some new food choices, perhaps others on the forum should comment as I did not eat at 117, the food that is. Wednesday: There was the threat of much rain Tuesday and especially Wednesday. But just a heavy drizzle or 2 Tuesday night and early Wednesday am. By noon Wednesday it was beach weather . Since arriving Friday, the surf has been quite forceful and Ipanema / Leblon had red flags out due to high-risk waves. After a nice stroll along a pretty empty beach in Ipanema I continued doing paperwork etc that I could not put off any longer. Did not finish until after 1800 hrs and needed to eat dinner. So never made it to Pointe 202, or anywhere else for that matter. If anyone else is in town, feel free to comment. The next few nights might be quiet. Rain is predicted for Saturday through next Friday a week from now. Just started pouring as I type this out. Will try to meet a friend at 117 Saturday night if it is not pouring. There is some seriously nice-looking talent on the GP websites, but I am a bit shy regarding reaching out. Especially as I will not host at an airbnb. So would have to play at a love hotel like the one near Cantagalo metro area of Copa towards the Fort, or Cinelandia. About 100 R$ in the past for an hour or 2 or 3.... Others have noted the need for caution with an unknown guy. I had a regular Grindr guy get weird, possibly threatening, on the last trip. Glad I choose the love motel after we had drinks and a walk around Lapa. Easy to simply walk out. He seemed ok until after we got into the room. Quite odd. I would like to do more tourist type stuff if the weather holds out. That's it for now from your Eye Whit Less news reporter.1 point
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thank you for reminding us plight of that young boy , victim of his oppressive state1 point
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How Russian teenagers are being locked up for expressing dissent
caeron reacted to khaolakguy for a topic
Don't statistics show that Russia is the country inhabited by the most war criminals? Bashir will feel right at home.1 point -
Don't be too shy. Things will get better!
Marc in Calif reacted to Keithambrose for a topic
I suggest you go back onto your medication.1 point -
A week ago, a customer offed both J. and his friend from his bar in JC to continue partying in Boyztown. About 10 minutes after he arrived, J. sent me a message "I'm going back. I don't like it here". My first thought was: the customer forced J. to do something he didn't want? Should I be alarmed? I sent him a message, asking what happened but got no response. 30 minutes later, when he's finally back to JC, it turned out the customer only took the two boys out to watch that erotic show in X-boys, whose sexually explicit content was offensive to J.. It looks like one year working in JC hasn't acclimatized him to this kind of stuff yet. That little incident probably gives you some clues. J. is hopeless traditional when it comes to sex. And by "traditional", I mean "farmer housewife traditional". Sex should only be carried out properly in the bedroom at night, with all the curtains down and lights mostly out (I once tried it in the bathtub, he seemed to enjoy it but was reluctant to do it again). Something like rimming would be unthinkable. For some reasons, he also came up with a "no more than one f*cking per day" rule. Actually, he would not allow me to say "f*ck" out loud. "It's not appropriate in Laos culture. You should say "together in the room." So when we are "together in the room", much as I'm turned on by his body (perfect to my liking: symmetrical, well-developed chest with lean muscles, the kind of muscles you got through good genes and physical hard work, not pumping yourself up in the gym, very lean waist, cute buns and long lean legs), the sex was getting old pretty soon. So I thought, it's totally up to me to spice up our sex life. It's a good thing that J. never fakes orgasm. He only moans when he indeed feels good. So I used his moaning as guidance when exploring his body and finding his G. spots. As someone who only tops and whose basic moves used to limiting to "fast-forward" and then "stall", I ventured to try out more positions, carefully calculating the angle and tempo changes in each case to achieve the maximum results (i.e., the loudest moaning). I even learned how to do cum-control in order to last longer (those daily cardios in the gym helps too. Actually each day with J. is always like working out twice if you know what I mean😉 ). My efforts paid off. Since I'm someone who feeds off greatly on his partner's pleasure, the more J. enjoys the sex, the more turned on I am. In the past, if I sensed that the boy was in pain or just wanted to get it over with, I often lost interest quickly and couldn't even get hard again. That's why I always preferred a boy who was also into me. I ended up having some of the best sex in my life with J., although to an outsider, it may look like my partner was just lying there and moaning. To see that a little farmer housewife sometimes sounding like a cat in heat gives me a sense of achievement too. PS. Once, my male ego forced me to ask J. "Do I give you better sex than your ex-boyfriend did?" He looked the other way, blushing a little but was vague with his answer "I don't know." Is that a yes or he was sparing my feelings? A few days ago, J. got angry with me for something (probably) quite trivial. Being passive-aggressive, he didn't want to talk it out. So he undressed and got into bed. When I joined him, he allowed me to do whatever I want but played dead. Sensing his resistance, I told myself "Challenge accepted!" So I really took my time, trying to be as gentle as I can, and started by paying visits to those G. spots with my tongue. As people say, the body doesn't lie. J. used his right hand to push down the little J. who was claiming loudly it should have its own life (and fun) too. He even gritted his teeth, determining not to let out a single sound. But he could hardly control it as the sound leak became more and more noticeable. Eventually, when I started upping my tempo, it's like he finally gave up and the moaning business was back to usual. So I thought "Mission accomplished!" I was wrong. After we finished, J. got up immediately (no usual post-coitus cuddling), got dressed and went home. He didn't even stop to collect his fee, which I laid out on the table next to the door. He was THAT angry. Although I wasn't sure why he got angry, being a good boyfriend, I sent my apologies for whatever I did wrong through message (of course I didn't say "whatever" in there). I was forgiven the next day though. PS. Speaking of fake orgasm, there is this Laos boy whom I offed just once about 2 years ago. We had barely even begun it when he started moaning loudly and saying all those "come on baby" "oh yeah" "f*ck" "feel so good" whatever. He couldn't hold his conversation in simple English (we used google translation most of the time) but obviously he has a very good command when it comes to those phrases. It was so distracting I had to tell him to tone it down but he begged to differ "That's my way. I was always like that with my ex boyfriend back in Laos." A few minutes into it, my already hard cock got soft and could not recover, so I just let him go with the promised fee. I nicknamed him "the porn star" and the sobriquet sticks. Everyone in the bar knows about his tricks and calls him "porn star" as well. Now come to think of it, he would make a perfect cast for @Olddaddy if his self-made porn idea ever materializes. I run into the Porn Star, who is now freelancing, once in a while and got his feedback on how his acts would work on other customers. It turned out it works for some and for those who hate it, he has learned to cool it. He promised if I off him again, he will now lie completely still in my bed, without making a sound. Do I look like I'm into necrophilia to you?1 point
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Trip report from ichigo
Marc in Calif reacted to bkkmfj2648 for a topic
Please take the time (30 pages) to read the below hyperlinked report as it is dear to my former employer regarding the downside of this type of work and its potential linkages with human traffiking. https://digitalcommons.uri.edu/dignity/vol2/iss4/10/ I already wrote about this in another thread at: I post it again to raise our sensitivity towards the plights of our guys that we encounter. obviously, not everyone suffers from what is reported in this well written report - but do we really know the background history of the guys that we off?1 point -
Cuba disappointment report
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Did you think I was lying? https://www.gayguides.com/forums/topic/38178-hiring-a-boy/#findComment-3454841 point -
São Paulo sophomore and freshman for Rio
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I was there on opening day, knew Edgar and Louis well. Junior had Estacao previously and at the same time they opened 202, who was in that sauna partnership with him, I never asked. But point is only Junior these days and it was the 3 when it started. No secret he was a sauna guy back then.....or where he makes the bulk of his money now. I used to get VIP during the early years at both of his and at 117, because we were active in attracting gringos to go there from activity on the hooboy page and we had organized 3 "Soiree" parties and Junior attended 1 or 2 on the rooftop of the Atlantico. This was around 2003-2004 , My 1st trip was to Roger's in 1999 and the gay scene for clubs in Botofogo was just coming to an end and the only info available was Damron's or Spartacus which might be outdated by the time you got there. This pic is from 10/03 and was the 2nd party, 1st party was 4/03 and last 3/04... then there were disagreements about organizing the parties and who was paying and who wasn't, if you could bring a boy , blah, blah, blah....and that was that. The 1st 2 were great then it wasn't, lol Then all the great nights at Corujina's after the saunas and before Le Boy or Encontros sp? Before the apps, guys from the saunas or some freelancers would hang out across the street looking for customers or an invite to come over and eat.1 point -
Rio in December?
TheBossBabyback reacted to floridarob for a topic
Depends on your comfort level traveling alone....level of Portuguese or use of a Translate app. Common sense travel advice as anywhere, nothing flashy or fancy, use uber to go anywhere at night and my own advice to myself is nothing good happens after midnight. Any problems I've had in my travels have included alcohol and after midnight.....1 point -
Rio in December?
TheBossBabyback reacted to floridarob for a topic
I've always found the weeks leading up to Christmas to be a great time as a customer of a sauna. Guys needing money to buy gifts and saunas not very busy, a buyer's market. The days after Christmas into January are packed, lucky of you can get a room or extra attention from anyone,1 point