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I took a 3-month trip this year across 11 countries and 23 cities in Australia, India and South-east Asia. My first time in all of them. And while the focus of my trip was scuba diving, attending religious festivals, seeing friends, hiking, sightseeing, food, etc., I was very eager to experience the boys in Thailand. Especially after reading this forum for the past couple of years. Admittedly, I met a lot of boys in all of the countries. But they were typical Grindr/Sniffies/HeeSay hookups. Thailand’s massage boys and go-go boys were something new. I typically don’t pay for sex, but am occasionally fine with it if it adds novelty and variety to my sex life. BANGKOK HOTEL - I stayed at the Grande Centre Point Surawong Bangkok. A highly-rated 5-star hotel near Silom 6 (a hub of gay massage boys and go-go boys). It’s a beautiful property and I’d recommend it to anyone. DAY 1 - I arrived around 10:00 p.m. It was a long travel day and so I decided to get some sleep and get an early start in the morning. But my brain didn’t cooperate. Even after taking one, then two, CBD sleeping gummies (which typically knock me out in 20 minutes), I laid wide awake in bed for hours. I got out of bed at 2 AM and decided maybe cumming would help. I considered jacking off. But thought, “Hey…I’m here for the boys…let’s see who’s on Grindr”. I quickly found a hot guy who was close by. A money boy. He asked for 2000 baht ($60) and I accepted. I was excited for my first Thai boy. When he came over I asked him where he was from. He said Loas. The in-person chemistry wasn’t fantastic for me, but I just wanted to cum and sleep. So I fucked him and passed out. DAY 2 - After meeting a friend from India for lunch and doing some sightseeing, I was excited for my first massage boy experience. I decided to go to Silom 6 after reading all of your posts. It seemed to have the highest concentration of massage boys. I sat in a lot of traffic getting to lunch, so I decided to try the metro. It was fast and easy. Highly recommend. Much better than the roads. Just as described in other posts, I searched for 9-teen Massage Silom-6 on Google Maps and it didn’t take long to find. There is a black and white 9-teen Massage sign you can see from Si Lom Road. I got there around 4 PM and there were multiple massage parlors on Silom 6 alley-street. Each with about a dozen boys dressed in black sitting in front of the door. I slowly walked passed each cluster of boys, deciding which boy I was most attracted to. In the end, it was a cute, fit twink from a place called Paradise Spa. The 60-minute oil massage was 895 baht ($28). We went up a few flights of stairs and he invited me to take a shower in the shower next to the massage table. The place was nice. When he came back, he wanted to start the massage but I asked if he could get naked first. He said, “you help me, I help you, $1500 baht ($45).” I agreed. He got naked. Gorgeous guy. Average-sized cock. I asked him where he was from. He said Laos. I wondered if I would ever meet a Thai boy in Thailand. Haha. The massage was fantastic. While he was working on my back, he poured massage oil directly on my asshole again and again and again and again. My ass was drowning in it. Hahaha. I’m sure he was just lubing up the runway, but, unfortunately, I’m a top. When it got to the fun part, I asked him if he is gay. He is not and is only a top. So we just kissed a little, sucked a little, and jacked off. I was happy with the experience…but learned (as many of you have suggested) that if I want to fuck a boy, ask if they are gay or agree to it before selecting them. I walked back to the hotel to rest for a bit and shower before coming back to Silom for a night of go-go boys. Because my time in Bangkok was limited, I spent an hour re-readingd many of your posts to see how to make the most of one night and went early to check the places out. I started with Moonlight. I was the first customer of the night. All of the boys quickly stood at attention when I walked in. Haha. The entry fee was 500 baht ($15). I sat down, ordered a drink (all drinks 400 baht whether water, beer, or cocktail) and looked at the 20-or-so boys rotating on stage, all wearing white shirts. After 10 minutes, I told the mamasan which one I liked. He came over. We started talking. I asked him where he was from and he said…Laos! LOLOL. I couldn’t break my streak. I ordered him a drink and we talked for a bit. No real chemistry for me. I went to pay for the drinks and told them this was my first night out in Thailand and I was going to see some of the other bars and I’d be back. They said the show would start and 10:45. I said I’d come back for that. I then went to Good Boys and was also the first customer of the night. A much smaller place, smaller stage. Not as nice, but I was attracted to more of the 20-or-so boys. All shirtless. I pointed to my favorite. He came over. He said his name was Lucas and he was from Myanmar. Gorgeous guy. Huge smile. Super skinny. Kind of giggly. It was fun to put my arm around his tight, shirtless torso as we talked. I got a little hard. I definitely liked this guy. I bought us each a couple of drinks and then told the mamasan I was bar hopping and would be back. He told me the show time. I told her I would return. Next, Fresh Boys, just above Good Boys. I went through the same motions…picking a boy, buying us drinks. This time I bought one for the mamasan. And at this point I was feeling a little drunk. I found out the show times and definitely wanted to be back for this show since their show was cocks-out. For the next four hours I bounced between Hotmale, DreamBoy, Moonlight, Good Boys and Fresh Boys meeting as many boys and seeing as many shows as I could. Here is the summary: I didn’t meet one Thai boy the whole night. Haha. All the boys were from Cambodia, Laos, Myanmar, Malaysia and Vietnam. At least the ones I picked. The Moonlight show was boring as fuck. I left early. The Good Boys show was regular drag show. You can see that anywhere. The Fresh Boys show was my favorite in Bangkok. Cocks out and somewhat playful. Most of them wore condoms, both during the show and when they walked around to get touched and tipped by customers. I only touched one cock without a condom. I thoroughly enjoyed myself and look forward to trying some new places next time. At the end of the night, I went back to Good Boys and paid the 500 baht ($15) off fee for Lucas. He was with another customer when arrived at 1:30 AM and I waited for 15 minutes for him to break away. He said he thought I wasn’t coming back. I told him he was my favorite boy of the night, by far. We agreed on a 2500 baht ($75) tip. He got dressed and we took a 4 minute tuk tuk ride to the hotel. He didn’t bottom, but I was fine with it. He was gorgeous. Fun to talk to. Playful. Open minded. Cute hard cock. We both showered and then got into a rhythm of playing for a while then talking for a while. I asked him if he liked the work. He said 5/10. Depends on the night. He told me he usually gets offed by 10 guys a month. Between that and tips at the bar, he earns $1500-$1800 per month. Alternative jobs would pay $300-$400 per month. His friend and former roommate is only offed by 4 guys per month. We finished by cumming in each other’s mouths, exchanging numbers and then Lucas told me his real name. I went to sleep happy. DAY 3 - My plan was to do a day trip to Pattaya and come back to Bangkok late evening. But I decided to read a bit on this forum just to refresh myself on how to approach everything and I realized it was a bad plan. All the fun in Pattaya happens between 10 PM and 3 AM, and it’s a 2 hour ride back. So I booked a hotel in Pattaya for the night. PATTAYA HOTEL - I decided to stay near Jomtien complex and chose the Poseidon Boutique Hotel. It was a great stay. Super sweet staff. Cheap. Nice room. Very affordable mini bar. My only suggestion would be to add a foam topper to the beds…but I could say that about 70% of the hotels I stay in. I walked around the Jomtien complex multiple times…looking for a massage boy I liked. Sadly, I didn’t like any. So I directed my focus to the evening. Like Bangkok, I wanted to get an early start to get a lay of the land. I hopped in a GrabCar and walked around the Boy Town area for a while. I saw all the straight bars and clubs along Beach Road and Walking Street. And then I walked to Nice Boys. As has been mentioned here, nice Boys no longer exists. It has been replaced by “Boys Nighclub”. I’m sure they meant Boys Nightclub, but that is how it is spelled on both of the signs. As of this posting, you can still find the location by searching for Nice Boys on Google maps. Most importantly, the format has changed. This was my experience… When I walked in at 8:00 PM the mamasan welcomed me and I ordered a drink. There were 5 guys on stage. I would describe all of them as rough looking. She explained the format and from what I understood I could pick the guy I wanted to cum and pay 500 baht ($15) each. I picked 3 out of the 5. I was confused when all three started to masturbate…but only one was jacking off in earnest. Eventually the two others stopped. Finally the first one came and then I understood it was a cum contest…only the winner got the 500 baht. Because the place was a bit seedy and the guys were rough, I was ready to pay for my drinks and leave. The mamasan assured me many more boys would be there at 9:00. I told her I’d be back. I then went to some of the other go-go spots in Boy Town. Toy Boy had the most boys I was attracted to. And I decided I would come back to make my final selections there. I bounced back to the Nice Boys / “Boys Nighclub” for one last look. The mamasan was right. There were now about a dozen boys now and two of them were smoking hot. Sadly, they were occupied by other guests. The hottest one by far, model material, sat to my left. He was jacking off behind a pillow, he didn’t want the other go-go boys to see (but I could), and he had a huge asian cock. Gorgeous cock. The guest would fondle his cock and balls behind the pillow…then the boy would get back to masturbating. The guest to my right had two boys jacking off and this is how his night went. The boy on the left would cum and he’d slurp it up and order a new boy. Then the boy on the right would cum and he’d slurp it up and order a new boy. For him, at 500 baht ($15) per cum shot, he could suck cum off their cocks all night like it was an all-you-can-swallow buffet. He didn’t stop the whole time I was there. I ordered my own boy. He was cute enough and had a nick dick. He quickly opened some straight porn and went to work. I was a touch drunk and lost some inhibitions at this point. Haha. I sucked him 3 times and when he came I thought “what the hell”, and slurped up his cum like the guest on my right. The more the merrier. I decided to wait to see if the hot boy to my left would eventually get free. I saw him cum earlier and thought he’d go back on stage. But the guest had his hand on his leg and wasn’t letting him go. I don’t know what arrangement they had. I waited and waited. Eventually the boy looked my way and we locked eyes. The dead look in his eyes was as if his soul left his body months or years earlier. And I decided to leave. X-BOYS - When I first walked in, about 9:45, there was a skinny, 75-year old American wearing a long-sleeved, khaki, Boy Scout shirt being lifted at the waist and twirled around by a muscled go-go boy. The man was in heaven. His eyes closed behind his glasses. Smiling. Ever so lightly caressing the boy’s back as he was spun round and round. After a while the boy set him down, he tipped him, and then he chose another willing muscle boy to give him another ride. We all have our thing. And then it was time for the show. OMGGGG! X-Boys was of the highlights of my trip, for sure. THANK YOU to everyone on this site who recommended it. I was there for both shows, the 10:00 and 11:00. And it was everything you said it would be. Rape scene, two shower scenes, orgy scene, mini-golf contest, fuck scene, eyes-wide-shut scene, hard cock scene, breakdancing, so many more…it was so well conceived and performed. It was Erotic. Beautiful. Fascinating. I didn’t want it to end. I was worried that if I pulled a boy down from the stage to sit with me it would mean he wasn’t in the show, and I was right. So I tipped, tipped, tipped the performers the whole night. Two of the drink-boys sat with me through the shows. A younger one by invitation and one in his mid-30s by self-invite. Haha. I bought both of them drinks, the mamasan drinks, a couple of the performers drinks and myself a few drinks. I was in heaven. I was kissing both drink-boys. Making out with the younger one whenever I could. Fantastic kisser. Both of them played with my hard cock (through my shorts) during the show. I regretted wearing underwear. I’m sure they would have put their hands down my pants if I invited them to. I should have. My drink tab was 3200 baht ($100) and it was money well spent. I felt so bad…the place was only 1/3 full for both shows and I wanted to do whatever I could to support them. During the fuck show the boys walked into the audience…while fucking…soliciting tips. I had already tipped both of them. When they came to me, I pulled down the jock strap of the bottom and felt his dick and then I felt the hard wrapped cock in his ass as they were fucking, basically on top of me. Wow! I tipped again. I wish more visitors would support these shows and the guys that perform in them. I’d be sad if we lost it…as it seems the world has lost so much from Bangkok/Pattaya over the years. I will absolutely go back anytime I’m in Thailand. My only suggestion for the show is for them to mix up the acts. I think that might be one reason for the low attendance. I think it might be the same show every night. But again, BRAVO boys for an amazing performance!! I think I could’ve stayed and had more fun with the guys at X-Boys post-show, but wanted to go back to Toy Boy to see who was on stage. TOY BOY - Also nearly empty of guests on a Sunday night, Toy Boy still had about 20 boys on stage just after midnight. I talked to the mamasan and asked which ones were tops and bottoms. I wanted a 3some and wanted at least one bottom and one top/vers. He had told me that they “had a room upstairs” where we could play. I thought that would be easier than going back to my hotel, logistics-wise, so I picked the two boys and we went. I paid 2000 baht each, plus a tip for the mamasan, I think. Haha. I was still a little drunk at this point. It turns out that the “room upstairs” is a hotel next door…they must have a by-the-hour arrangement with them. The three of us showered and jumped into bed. Both of them were giggling a bit. They’d never been naked together. It was clear very quickly that one was gay-for-pay straight and the bottom was gay. The three of us fucked around for about 30 minutes…but I was connecting with the gay bottom, “Tree”, in part because he could speak English, and in part because he was enjoying it, so I eventually excused the straight who was only going through the motions. Tree was Thai and a real sweetheart. We fucked and talked and talked and fucked. I know this was a paid exchange, but it felt like love making. He said he was finishing university in Bangkok and got into some sort of an accident. He’s the youngest in the family and his older brother and sister said he needed to do something for money. The accident exposed how vulnerable he was financially. His brother said, “I’m working at a bar in Pattaya…you should come work with me.” He didn’t tell him what kind of bar. Haha. So Tree showed up to work the first day and was like, “What the fuck?”, but he eventually decided he liked the work and is still doing it. I asked Tree if his gay-for-pay brother still worked at the bar. He said yes. I asked, “what would you have done if I had randomly picked you and your brother for a 3some tonight? Would you do it? Enjoy it?” Initially, with a mischievous, horny smirk, he said yes. But then later when I asked again he said no. He didn’t want sex to ruin anything between them and, of course, I respected his answer. Eventually we both came and exchanged numbers. We’re still talking. I got a ride back to the Poseidon Boutique Hotel from a friend I’d made that night. An owner of a restaurant. It was 2:30 AM. I decided to walk around the Jomtien complex to see what was happening. All of the bars were wrapping up for the night. I popped into three bars and talked to a few guys. Then decided to call it a night. I was walking back to the Poseidon hotel and there was a group of guys sitting at a table on the street, close to the hotel. I said hi to all of them as I passed. I locked eyes with one. A hot 20-something wearing a yellow, L.A. Lakers jersey. I walked another few steps and turned around to look. He was standing up…staring in my direction. I thought, “If a guy stands up for you, you should go talk to him.” So I did. All of his friends were like, “OOoooooo-ooooooo”. After saying, “hey”, I asked, “Do you want to go up with me?” And he said yes. As we walked away, all of his friends went “OOoooooo-ooooooo” again. Haha. We immediately went up and both got in the shower. OMG. This guy was drop dead gorgeous. A 27 year old from Myanmar, he works at a bar in Jomtien. He was bright, funny, spoke great English, was brimming with muscles. And his cock! The biggest I’ve seen on any asian. Hard as a rock. I asked about his position…he said vers. I asked if we wanted to bottom and he said yes. We kissed hard for a while, talked for a bit, started fucking…and in missionary position I asked if he was HIV positive (normally something I ask earlier on). He said he was. I am on prep and he said he was undetectable, so we kept going. He said he used to be a money boy and used to do meth. He didn’t know if he got it from the sex or a needle. But he’s absolutely focused on his health right now. And it was clear that he was. We kept having fun and he came while I was fucking him. What a night! I’m so glad I stayed the night in Pattaya. DAY 4 - Just a few things of note: The floating market in Pattaya is a waste of time. I’m sure there are others in Thailand that are authentic and amazing. This one is a tourist trap. Nothing is real. IMO, the beaches weren’t that great in Pattaya and there are a lot of posts online about how dirty the water is. If beaches are a driver to visit here, head out to an island for a day. Better beaches and cleaner water. I got screwed by “The Limo Pattaya” service recommended on this site. We set up a time. I confirmed the day before. The time came. I reached out 20 minutes before to confirm the driver was coming. Nothing. I called and he said, “Give me a minute. Let me look to find a car in your area”. What?? Why did you confirm the day before? WHAT are you confirming the day before? That you will look for a car in my area 20 minutes before my pick up time? Then he wrote and said he couldn’t find a car. Anyway, super frustrating. Grab was the same price. I’ll just use Grab in the future. On the way back from Pattaya, I decided to stop by Zoo Spa and Onsen. BREAKING NEWS - they’ve moved! Next door. I’ll post a photo of the new place. The guys are gorgeous, but the massage and the tip is 2x to 3x as much as you’ll find in Silom 6. Between the premium price and the 45 minute wait for the boy to arrive (in-call only) and not knowing if there would be in-person chemistry, I decided it wasn’t worth it and left. I went back to Silom 6 to see if there were any massage boys I liked. There were four, but they were all straight. So I said “no thank you” and went back to the hotel and had a hot (free) Grindr hook up with a sexy 30 year old Thai bottom. DAYS 5-10 I went to Phuket for 3 days. Had an incredible time on the islands. Only Grindr hookups here. I then went to Chiang Mai for the Loy Krathong “Festival of Light” / lantern festival. FYI - the sanctioned, out-of-town lantern event was chaos x Chaos x CHAOS. I’ve never experienced a clusterfuck of that magnitute in any country. Sexwise, for me, Chiang Mai was a mix of Grindr and HeeSay hookups. And one go-go bar named Adam’s Apple Club. I was there for two hours during prime time. I’d give it a 3/10. Mostly because the guys are average looking, the go-go scenes are cliche and uninspired, and, according to the mamasan, all straight. (I like gay bottoms who are into being bottoms). I spoke with a guest who moved to Chiang Mai 20 years ago. He’s being going to Adam’s Apple for-e-ver and has known most of the models for 7-10 years. To me, that explained why the performers were just going through the motions. They’d done the same thing every night 1000s of times. I don’t blame them, but I didn’t find it enjoyable. He also said he gets massages for 250 baht ($8). I always paid more…but I’m not a local. And that mot of the straight go-go boys at Apple will do anything you want…you just have to agree in advance. I felt a number of hard cocks (no condoms here) and tipped the boys as they walked around. But I wouldn’t go back. And that was my time in Thailand. I hope you found some of trip report informative and entertaining. My advice to first-timers in Thailand: Read this forum and get familiar with everything before you go. There is a lot to learn and things are changing all the time. Download the Grab app for car transport. It works just like Uber. Download Line for texting. It works like WhatsApp. Take the metro as often as you can in Bangkok. Big time saver. Get familiar with how each massage place works. Many have boys on demand. Some are in-call, reservation only. Contact those places on Line in advance. Because Bangkok is so big, I’d combine sightseeing with checking out massage places. For example, the Chatuchak weekend market is somewhat close to BT House Men Massage and Gbeat Massage. Would I ride the metro for 30 minutes just to go and check out a few massage boys? Probably not. Would I walk a few blocks after the weekend market to see which boys might be available? Yes. I suggest creating a physical or digital map with all of the sightseeing spots, restaurants and massage places you might want to visit, and leverage the proximity. In Pattaya, for your hotel, I would decide, “would I rather take a boy to my hotel from a bar in Jomtien complex or a go-go boy from Boy Town?”, and pick a hotel near that spot. They are both relatively close, but I’d rather not have to deal with finding a taxi late at night for a hookup. Don’t miss the X-Boys show in Pattaya. It’s totally worth going to both shows. You may consider wearing no underwear and some loose shorts if you want to get a little drunk and handsy while you enjoy the erotic performances. I loved my first trip to Thailand. I may be back next year. : )

Thursday - During breakfast at Le Meridien, I spotted a hunky guy with farang customer just one table away. I faintly remember hunk working in bars in the past but I didn't see him this year. I wanted to be polite and say hi to hunk but customer looked intimidating so I better not approach. In fact, last week, when I was staying at Airbnb condo in Soi 3 and I had to go out for breakfast, I bumped into a waiter from Dragon and Koi with an Asian customer (looks Korean). They were walking to Park Silom Foodland for breakfast. I called name of waiter and he turned around to say hi but his customer was staring daggers at me! For the record, if anyone bumps into me with my current guy and it's obvious they know the guy well, I will never react with hostility. I will be warm and polite and introduce myself and say, "Nice to meet you. I know you are a good person and you have great taste!" After breakfast, I swam at pool then off to Centralworld for another movie. On way back, I had lunch at Thai boat noodles shop at soi 3 and bumped into forum member and his guy. It was his guy's off day and they were running errands around the city. Back at hotel for another hour at pool and small light bites at executive lounge on top floor then off to Sauna Mania! It was Thursday and today's theme was Towel Night a.k.a Nude Night. I wanted to experience it to see how different it was from other nights. Walking along Soi Convent towards Sauna Mania, I bumped into favourite Vietnamese massage guy. He was on dinner break with two of his co-workers from Natural Massage on Soi 6. By the way, the name on the menu and window of his massage shop has been changed to G-Zone since 2 weeks ago. But the main signage on the outside of the building is still Natural Massage. And on Google Maps, it's still Natural Massage! Lovely weather in evening and took this photo of the soi leading to Sauna Mania during sunset.

Brief update on T. and the Dutch customer, the story that started this thread (as usual, my threads never have a clear focus and I just put down whatever takes my fancy at the moment). It looks like they are going steady. The customer stops by every day without fail, only sits with T., sometimes for a very long time (the other day, he arrived at 7pm and was still there at 11pm, when I left). There is only one off so far, but the customer will stay here for two more weeks, so WE AT THE BAR all hope for something more substantial out of it. J. stopped T. every time we ran into him to get an update. Yes, we care that much, especially when it comes to a chance for a long-term relationship. Speaking of long-term relationships, last night I sat with V., currently the oldest boy in the bar (34). He currently dates a farang boyfriend, an American expat, who gives him a generous monthly allowance of 30K Baht and still allows him to work in the bar. "I can sit and go drinking with customers, but no sex. That's his condition. He said if he ever found out that I cheated, he will end our association immediately." V. already bought a house in his hometown, a few hours away by bus from Pattaya. 16K monthly down payment would come from the aforesaid allowance. He's also been trying to save, earmarked for opening a coffee house in his hometown. "That is one reason my boyfriend allows me to continue to work here. He wants me to do the saving myself." V. told me. "When I reach my target of 200K, I will stop working in the bar and move back home." "But what about your boyfriend? He lives here in Pattaya, right?" "Oh, he will move and live with me in my house. That's our plan for a future together." According to V., the said boyfriend actually sat in the bar and observed him at work for some time before finally approaching him. Their relationship is still fresh and they do it step by step, At the moment, V.'s been staying with him 3 days a week, aiming for living with each other full-time down the line. "It seems you guys got it all figured out. Your boyfriend is so thoughtful. You have a good thing going for you. I think you should avoid doing anything that may jeopardize the relationship. Work harder, take good care of him, keep him staying in love with you. Don't risk it just for some quick buck." "I know. He said he loves me and wants to be with me for a long time. If he keeps his part of promise, I won't cheat. " "Do you love him?" I asked. "Actually, at the moment, I only like him." V. was honest with his answer. "But my feeling for him is growing. I want to be with him every day." When asked about his previous relationships, V. said he was in love with a German guy a while ago. "When he decided to leave Thailand and move back home, I had cried for days because I know I would never see him again. I still miss him sometimes." "Suppose the German guy comes back to Pattaya right at this moment, what would you do if you have to choose?" It didn't take long for him to come up with an answer. "I would sit with him and talk but would not do anything that may break my boyfriend's heart. I know how hurtful it is to have your heart broken. My boyfriend has been good to me. I would not do anything to hurt him." (I wish all those younger boys working in the soi would share the same view). It's already midnight. I gave V. his tip and told him I want to sit with him again some time in the future to get updates on his relationship. "J. told me you are a lovely person. Now I think so too." V. said "You are a lovely person too." I said So we said goodbyes, feeling happier because both of us are lovely hehehe. PS. I really like the arrangements made between V. and his boyfriend. Maybe it's time I make a similar deal, officially, with J., (whose own dream is opening a clothes store back in his hometown).

Colom-bien? Well, I'm going to write the world's most comprehensive guide on chaturbate boys in Colombia. That report is coming next.

we know you are gentleman and a scholar but in my opinion you did right thing by NOT approaching that hunky guy ( yes , he left the scene and now owns a restaurant but it looks it's still engaging his old customers from time to time ) sitting with other person. One never knows how either guy or his companion may react so unless guy in question makes some kind of eye contact or motion it's better pretend you are complete stranger. Theoretically that farang he was sitting with could be somebody who doesn't know guy's past. You should leave waiter and Korean alone too. I'm sensitive to the issue as once I spotted one of my guys walking Silom on 'wrong ' side with other Asian and it was clear by his face expression I should pretend of not knowing him. What it turned out , that' customer' was his visiting Cambodian relative content to know that my guy has some warehouse job, which was and still is true but not whole truth. Also one of Tawan boys who at the time landed nice sponsor and left the scene entirely , when we met by chance on BTS it was quite clear, even if he was travelling alone , that he doesn't know me anymore .He knows me again now, lol Ever since when I see face familiar from the scene, either boy or forum member I'm waiting for a sign they noticed me at the least. It would be nightmarish if I'm sitting in some restaurant with my friend who happens to be in Bangkok at the same time and some forum friend comes , pats me on the back and asks " how was boy you took last night from Hot Male?"

Thursday night at Sauna Mania was just wow! The clothes rack with underwear for sale at 150 baht each was not there at counter. Everyone was supposed to wear towel or go nude. About 30 guys from 5pm to 6.30pm. Most were in dark maze but I did see a farang fucking an Asian guy on a bed on the top floor. There were two other guys watching. In the dark maze, there were some tall local hunks! Lots of groping and molesting. Much easier to touch with only a towel that comes off easily. There were 2 or 3 shy guys in underwear though. I got involved in 3-way fun. One horny guy was sucking another guy for a good 15 minutes and I touched and played with the two guys. I was also grabbed, manhandled and molested by a bigger guy for 5 minutes. While I enjoyed his attention, I had to apologise as I had to leave for dinner appointment. My conclusion - Thursday No towel night is a must try experience!

Wonder why you singled out Olddaddy? Because of his porn-star potentials?

When it comes to boys, Vietnam is not Thailand. But there are a couple of places worth checking out. First, speaking to Grindr/HeeSay hookups, I’ll say I had a mixed, mostly negative experience. One muscle boy from Grindr came to my hotel for a hookup and only informed me he was a money boy after he stripped down to his underwear. My instinct was to kick him out immediately for not telling me up front, but he was so hot I agreed he could stay. But then, he would barely kiss, he wouldn’t fuck, wouldn’t suck, and we jacked for 10 minutes or so. I realized I was bored and told him he could leave. He asked for $20. I said no way. Offered him $8. We settled on $12. I paid it mostly to have him leave without making a scene. Two other free hookups catfished me. Not the guys in the photos. Not even close. And then there was a cutie. A 19-year-old Vietnamese twink with blond-pink hair. He works at a small, motorcycle-repair-shop-in-the-front, trendy-cafe-in-the-back restaurant. He invited me over for lunch and a drink one afternoon. I popped over to see him and I loved his personality as much as his looks. He made me an excellent sandwich and two drinks. We agreed to meet that night. It was fun to see him again. I tried fucking him but my cock was too big for his tiny ass. He was a pro at sucking. He said he used to be bad at it, but a tourist told him he was terrible and taught him the ways. We both wanted to see each other again, but my itinerary was too tight. Next time. And then there are the massage boys. HANOI I’ve learned, in addition to reading this forum, you need to search for “men for men massages” on Google maps to find the boys that will add “service for tips” to the standard massage. That said, like in Thailand, there are tons of massage shops in Hanoi’s Old Quarter. And while my focus was on sightseeing and the incredible food in Vietnam, I wanted to make it to one massage place while I was there. As I was walking down the street, just around the corner from my hotel, this gorgeous guy sitting in front of a massage shop said hi and asked if I wanted a massage. It wasn’t a “men for men” shop, but I thought I would roll the dice and see what happened. We walked upstairs and the place had around 20 tables in one big room with drapes separating them. The place was empty except for another male therapist with his shirt off. He was cute. I asked if we could do a 4-handed massage. They said yes. I got a little hard in the hopes of what could happen. For some reason, they gave me a discount off of the listed price. It would be $30 for 60 minutes for four hands. We walked to the table and they told me to get naked and to put on these baggy boxer-style shorts. I thought that was a bad sign. I wanted to see how they would respond if I stayed naked on the table but with a towel over my ass. They said the towel was fine. And although I hoped the easier access might lead to something, nothing sexy happened. It was a good 4 handed massage. We talked in broken English through part of it. Nice guys. I gave them each a good tip. But it reinforced that you have to go to designated spots in order to find the boys willing to do the extras. DANI SPA One such spot is Dani Spa. After looking online and reading some great reviews, I reached out to them on WhatsApp. They sent me photos of the boys they had on tap. All very attractive. I decided to do a 4-handed massage again. This time fulfilling my fantasy. Haha. And set up a time. I walked to Dani Spa from my hotel. A quick 15 minutes. It’s on a residential side street with no signage outside. They sent me very specific directions on how to get there via WhatsApp. I walked through the gate and up the stairs. They’ve essentially converted a nice house into a massage parlor. I greeted the boys and chose a 75-minute 4-handed massage. We walked upstairs and I undressed, one guy took off his shirt, and we began. The massage was good-to-great. But I’d recommend the 60-minute. They didn’t use a lot of techniques I’ve experienced with other therapists. Just lots of oil and body rubbing. When it came to the fun part, they put a towel over my eyes. One jacking me off. The other giving me a head massage and rubbing my nipples. After enjoying the edging for a while, I pulled the towel off my eyes and asked if I could touch their dicks. They said yes. The shirtless guy giving me a head massage was already hard. The other was not. But he was a minute after I started playing with him. They both still had their clothes on and didn’t want the other guy to see their dick, so my hand was down both of their shorts. And so with diffused afternoon sun pouring through large windows into the spacious room, and two boys playing with my cock and balls and body, me with two hard dicks in my hands, I squirted cum passed my nipples and my generously-oiled self relaxed even further as their hands finished caressing me. HO CHI MINH CITY (SAIGON) NADAM SPA When I landed in Saigon (which is what most locals like to call their city), I did a little research, talked to a few Grindr meets, and found NaDam Spa was the best sauna/massage place, by far. It was a bit further than some other options, but given the reviews, I decided it was worth the extra drive time. NaDam is located in a residential street, just off a major highway/bridge. When you arrive, you walk through a scooter “parking lot” garage to the front door. There was no fee to enter (you pay for everything upon leaving). You are quickly given a locker key and towel and escorted up some stairs to disrobe. (Side note - I brought my own sandals and am so glad I did. The ones they had were tiny and tight and not comfortable for me). I’ve been to 50 or so gay saunas in the world and none of them are even close to being in the same category, as being as jaw-droppingly gorgeous, as NaDam. There are beautiful blue-lit pools with plants surrounding them, fountains pouring in from all sides. A Himalayan pink salt room made with illuminated pink salt bricks with a window to one side featuring pottery and plants through the pane. The dry sauna has pineapple slices hanging over the hot rocks, giving it a delicious, sweet air. The steam room similarly has a mixture of aromatic plants and herbs over the steamer which are frequently attended to by guests and staff. The pools are made with luxurious stone. The pathways are made with Japanese stepping stones surrounded with pebbles. Most of the time I felt like I was in a 5-star spa in Beverly Hills. Sometimes I felt like I was in a museum. Nothing like I’ve experienced in a gay sauna before. NaDam is split into two parts. The cruising sauna on one side and massage boys on the other. It’s a brilliant business plan. You walk around the cruising area and get horny to the point of exploding, then go to the massage boys for some smoking hot fun. First, my report on the cruising side. I was there on a Friday night. I arrived around 5:30 p.m. In addition to the pools and showers and dry sauna and steam room on the main level, there is a cruising area on the 2nd floor with “dark room alleys” and Japanese styled fuck rooms with doors that close and lock. There were about 20 guys moving about. No action. All were locals except for one other tourist from Europe. The locals all looked very similar. 20-40 years old, most of them. Smooth. Twinkish builds. No one was playing. Just walking around and around and around and around in circles. Not my favorite. I like action. Then I came across a guy in the pink salt room with a bit stockier build. He was aggressive. Reached under my towel. I was cool with it. He sucked me for a while. Several guys peeked in to look. I decided to do one last round of cruising before going to the massage side. No action anywhere. I was ready for a massage. There are massage boys placed throughout NaDam…in the changing room…in the cruising area…outside the massage section, all soliciting. In addition, the massage reception has a book of boys that are in the building for you to look at. I made my selection, a flirty and fun cutie naked Huynh. The listed price for a 60 minute massage is $18. After a few minutes, Huynh took me upstairs. The massage rooms are stunning. So so nice. He invited me to lay down and started the massage. It was great. His technique was different than any I’ve experienced. Really fun, physical, and effective. When it was time to turn over, I was going to ask him to get naked, but he already was! He asked if I wanted to “turn up the temperature” (get sexual) and I said yes. No price was agreed to…you decide that afterwards. NaDam doesn’t allow massage boys to fuck on premises. No one is allowed. Everything else is on the table. You can fuck if you invite them back to your hotel. Anyway, we kissed and jacked and kissed and came on each other’s abdomens. It was really nice. Then he continued with the massage for another 12 minutes and it was finished. He presented me with a little pad and paper and asked how much I would tip. I wrote the amount down (I was generous). I would be charged for the massage and tip upon exiting. I went back to cruising. There were more guys now. Maybe 35. Again, mostly circling, circling, looking, looking, little-to-no action. There was a little action on the second floor. In some rooms guys were sucking each other with people crushing each other in the hallway to peek in. In others, the doors were locked…so I have no idea what they could have been doing. But the action represented maybe only 15% of the cruising customers. I tried to approach a few guys in towels…but nothing came of it. I didn’t feel too bad because they weren’t doing anything with anyone else either. After 45 minutes of this, I went back to the massage boys. This time the hot massage boys convinced me to get a full body scrub. The “body scrub expert” was older, in his 30s. My impression was he’d been a massage boy years before. Now he ran reception and did body scrubs. It was a 40 minute service for $12. We both walked upstairs to a room that was like a big tub. Various faucets and shower nozzles on the wall with a rubber-wrapped table in the middle and a drain in the center of the floor. We both got naked. He exfoliated my back with a salt, oatmeal and avocado oil scrub and then and bathed it with a rich body wash, followed by a strong, warm spray off. He then scrubbed and bathed and sprayed my front. Then scrubbed and bathed and sprayed my dick and balls. It wasn’t too sexual for me…mostly because I wasn’t terribly attracted to the guy. He started to jack me off but I told him I was good. So he finished the service and I wrote down my tip amount and we were finished. I went back to cruising. This time there were 55 guys or so. Same thing. Lost of cruising. Lots of looking. Very little action. I decided to go back to get my final massage. This time, when we got to the room, the boy asked 3 times in the first three minutes if I wanted to play. I thought, “well, if he’s asking…”, and said yes. We went straight to the non-penetrative sex. He was a fantastic kisser, even with his coffee breath. Fantastic. Body builder physique. Smooth all over. We sucked and played and talked and jizzed over each other’s dicks. My request. When it was over, we still had another 15-20 minutes left. I thought he’d want to finish the massage like the first guy. But for him, he was done. I asked him if he could massage me for a few minutes. The effort was half-hearted. So after a few minutes we wrapped things up. He asked what I would tip. I told him. He pushed for more and we settled on an amount. I did one last round in the cruising section. Same same. Except the crowd was thinning. Lots of guys were getting dressed and I was ready to do the same. I walked to my locker, dropped my towel and was putting on my shorts when….someone walked through a doorway to the right of the lockers that was gated and locked for most of the night. My curiosity spiked. I dropped my shorts and put on my towel. I went to walk through to see what it was all about and an attendant stopped me and said “small towel only”. My curiosity double spiked. I went back to my locker and put away my large towel and grabbed the tiny towel. I walked through the gate and up to stairs to see…my first ONSEN! Well, they called it an onsen. It was a huge rectangular pool that could have fit 40 guys with three shower heads across the center blasting water below. The room was dark. The water was backlit in light blue. There were only 6 or so guys in the water, totally nude. “Finally,” I thought, “something might happen.” Well, it did for two of the guys. They were in the corner, kissing, caressing, very affectionately. I think they must have come together. Maybe boyfriends. Then…they started fucking. In the water. It was so hot. The first stockier guy that sucked me hours ago came in the water. I let him suck me under the water as everyone watched the two guys fuck in the corner. They wanted a third hottie to join them, they kept gesturing for him to join…but he only wanted to watch. Anyway, it was an unexpected highlight to the end of the evening. I went to the lockers, got dressed and walked to the front reception. Altogether, my night cost $115. I felt it was a tad pricey…BUT, when you consider I had a great massage, non-penetrative sex with two hot massage boys, a full body scrub and wash, all with tips, plus I got to experience that gorgeous gay sauna, I was happy to pay that amount. I would have paid $115 for a 90-minute non-sexual massage back in the states. I just wish there was more action on the cruising side. That said, I would absolutely recommend putting NaDam on your itinerary if you are ever in Vietnam. I will be going back. There was another sauna I wanted to check out - 69Sauna. I had heard good things about it as well, but I was spent. Sexually and financially. Haha. Not to mention the crowd was probably also thinned out that late at night. So I called it a night and flew home the next day. I hope you check out Dani Spa and NaDam Spa when you’re in Vietnam! Happy travels!!

And how about you stay on topic.... Dissent....how many are locked up for that? You can feel free to say something bad about Putin, because you know he's an evil guy.....or can you??? No whataboutism, stay on topic and say something you really think about Putin and not some fake praise.....come on, do it....dissent 🧐

sure , we know names of those Russian terrorists : Nemtsov, Politkovskya, Skribal, Litvinenko and of course Navalny

Spot on @Min It is all about raising their status in a very nice way that is great for the bar, his colleagues, and you - as in the Thai culture, everyone will remember you as Mr. Jai dii.

You may want to try to look at it from the boy’s perspective. He might think that if you care for him, you would show up in his bar frequently, offing and/or buying him drinks, and by doing that, show others how popular he is, increasing his values and status in the bar. Several boys, once given a choice by me, 100B tip or one more drink (from which they get 50B), invariably go for one more drink to increase the total number of drinks they secure for the bar. This is not just about money. The boy might even expect you to also buy drinks for his less fortunate friends, raising his status among those too. In other words, giving him “face” in the bar may mean more to him than having dinner together every day. If you are not sure, have a heart-to-heart with him and see what he thinks, which would probably help you better balance between personal interactions and public display of support

@colom-bien Excellent trip report. I love your writing style - it keeps you engaged eager to hear the next words and/or segment. Bravo!! I loved the part where you mention that you keep meeting Laos guys and no Thai guys. I find this ironic, because recently the Thai government decided to raid some of the bars where one of the justifications was that the raid would protect the jobs that were raided for the Thais. But, as you saw, there were hardly any Thais to do said work. So, it Thailand wants to continue to have a vibrant tourist industry they should embrace the guys who are willing to come from Myanmar, Laos, and Cambodia to do the work that fewer and fewer Thais want to do.

that's the problem , that 7500 may or may not be truth. We both know very well how statistics over there are done, if Moscow orders that in 2025 crime in Novosibirsk must drop by 30% , it will go down by 31.13 %. On paper of course . So while I agree that my earlier statement was false, invented for discussion purpose, in cold reality neither you nor me have reliable numbers of those. It may be that I underestimated it

If you ever get a chance to go to Berlin, Laboratory on Thurs night is naked night, even the bartenders are naked. I was number 502, the place is huge and there's a doorman that rejects people, kind of like studio 54 if he feels you don't fit in....too fat or too old I guess, he let me in every time, maybe because of my tattoos since he's totally tatted? Everyone inside looked decent, there were older guys, but in shape and well groomed.... Doors only open for 2 hrs 9-11pm and after that no one can come in and once you leave, you can't come back in. So no one is waiting for "something better" to come in, like we gays so frequently wait or go looking for. It's the most memorable place I've been to for a naked night, sauna mania is fun, but too many shy guys for me, even on naked night.

Great report , thank you very much for taking time wo write and illustrate it with pictures. Fully agree with your assessment of show at XBoys, sexiest of them all. One piece of advice - if future , and we know it will be future, try to divide report in shorter section. It makes easier to read and also for reference and quotes. Calling Poseidon hotel 'cheap ' tell us you are not exactly working for a minimum wage , congratulation on that. Glad you liked all Thailand's charms, nothing wrong with Lao boys being first couple, for me Lao boys never disappoint.

I must be straight too, maybe 🤷‍♂️

only if somebody believes in Russian statistics and outside of Russia those are rare species. As we see by sad fate of that brave young man, probably not many is Russia herself either.

Outstanding summary. You learn quickly! Thamks for takin time to report. 🙏

Nobody knows how many killed in Russia because free press to report it doesn’t exist. But I’m preaching to choir on that count.

Yes, but my point was that members who behave as I described are, in my view, less likely to be generous with meals.

while I agree with you I'd like to recall what I posted recently in another thread. Depending on circumstances, what we classify as uneconomic or outright exploitation , it may still be a life line for a boy. When I visited ARENA last month I was their last customer for a day and I was told only 5th that day. It means most of their boys as there were more than 10 flexing when I entered did not even make enough to pay for simple meal, not to mention bus fare.

Mah hobby is sex travel (Asia) (especially Bangkok). I look for friends having same hobby because I often go discovering the boys myself (massage, sauna, hire...) I enjoy watching group action at VCKcoolspace. I enjoy sitting with muscular guys at Tawan Bar (The One Bar, current name) I have info of some boys, know the rate to hire of some place/shop/bar/spa Anyone having trip to Bangkok upcoming can join, message me or leave ur Lin.e, thank you.

If I am not mistaken, BKK wanted to start immigration using machines for arriving passengers? Did anyone arrive in BKK in december and make a new electronic experience? So far, i have experienced the following: 1) Departing internationally from BKK: At immigration, scan passport, scan face, leave. Worked well, took only 5 seconds, no queue (ok was 6:00 am), no stamp in passport anymore. 2) Departing nationally from BKK Check-in-Computer suggested to register for face recognition for boarding pass free experience. Having enough time till departure, i decided to try it out: Scan passport, scan face, registration done. Next step is where you normally scan boarding pass. You go to different lane, look to camera and .... access denied! Tried one more time, didnt work. Asked staff, staff thought i didnt register for it, went to checkin terminal with me only to find out i did already register. Back to face recognition, tried different lane, tried without glasses, tried with glasses, access denied. So in the end used classic approach with long queue. Watched a few others trying face recognition, most got through, but not all of them. Overall I dont see the benefit, because a the gates itself is no face recognition, so you need the boarding pass anyway. So in total you have one additional step and you save one queue (if it worked). Not sure if that additional step has to be done at every checkin or just once. Anyone else made experiences with modern technology at BKK airport?

Wow. You post a lot of stupid shit on this board, but this has got to be one of the most stupid. Even if it were true that police in the US go around shooting hundreds of people on the streets in the US for no reason, which we all know it isn't, it would still be completely irrelevant to the question of whether this boy is a terrorist, which he most certainly is not. It's pathetic that Putin is such a pussy that he feels threatened by a harmless 16 year-old.

Freshboys only had about 10 to 12 customers when I went in at 9.45pm. I asked for drinks menu and ordered a 1-litre of Chivas Regal whisky (4000 baht) with the intention of inviting guys to drink with me but I will tip them for their time. It was first stage rotation. I saw my guy. OMG. He looked so hot barechested in his white shorts. I resisted calling him down to sit with me. I wanted to give him opportunity to be picked by other customers in audience. I recognised a Laos guy on stage and called him instead to sit and drink with me. A few minutes later, waiter came to me to say that I must buy a drink for the guy. But I already bought a bottle of whisky! That's how Jupiter works! Laos guy whispered to me that mamasan will be angry with him if I didn't buy him a drink. Sigh. I was left with no choice but to buy the 400 baht drink "300 baht go to bar, 100 baht I keep," Laos guy said to me. Consequently, I didn't invite any other guy down to sit with me as I would need to buy them drinks. It was the bar's business model and I had to respect that. At 10pm, the guys got off the stage and the show began with four coyote dancers. Then a diva ladyboy solo performance. After that came the graphic exposed performances that Freshboys is known for in Bangkok compared to the other bars. The first show ended at about 10.45pm after the big cock show by 5 guys. Throughout the first show, customers kept coming in and filling the bar. For the 2nd stage rotation, the guys changed into white briefs. Very sexy. My regular guy got invited with another guy to sit with 2 Asian ladies and 1 guy. Jackpot! Somehow, this time round, I didn't feel jealous. He was just doing his job. It was surreal. He was hugging lady customer while two tables away, I was hugging Laos guy. We smiled knowingly at each other. Alas, the Asian customers didn't off my guy. I found out later they were Vietnamese. He earned 100 baht from one drink plus he received a 100 baht tip from the customers. So he earned 200 baht tonight. The guys at Freshboys do 4 stage rotations. Only the 2nd stage rotation do they appear in sexy briefs. They go back to wearing their white shorts for 3rd and 4th stage rotations. I stayed until the bar closed at 1 am. About 15 guys left out of the 25 guys I saw at 10pm. I witnessed a waiter collecting drinks receipts from every guy while they were standing on stage. He went to bar counter to collect 100 baht notes then he went to the guys to pay them. Mamasan took out a big book and did a roll call. Once she called their numbers and ticked them off in her book, the guys went to get changed and could leave the bar. I left the bar and went to Foodland. My guy joined me for supper together with Laos guy whom I had been seated with the whole night. We were also joined by number 41. The most recent trip reports in the forum on Dreamboys was about number 41 being the oldest. Well, this number 41 is not! He is 22. Vietnamese. Friend of my guy. I am glad the previous number 21 has retired!

I thing you’re right, Min. @jason1975 you remember we discussed the social dynamics within the bar and why I chose to buy garlands for the boy at Moonlight? Min has added some further good points to consider.

Seem to be three styles at Lagoa: (1) Negotiate for the lowest price possible. Insist on 100 or 150. For them, sex is better if they can be proud they got a bargain. (2) Say (without asking!) 200 -- and 19 out of 20 will accept. For them, this smooth process is more relaxing and seems less commercial. Quick and easy. At the current great exchange rate, why quibble over 50 reals? (3) Ask the GP! Given this opportunity, many GPs will of course try for more than 200. So these clients now either have to make the GP lose face and bargain them down to accept less -- or pay the higher asking price. I don't see any advantages in this approach but apparently many clients use it.

colom-bien: A first-class report entertaining and informative and great presentation. Thank u!

Please take the time (30 pages) to read the below hyperlinked report as it is dear to my former employer regarding the downside of this type of work and its potential linkages with human traffiking. https://digitalcommons.uri.edu/dignity/vol2/iss4/10/ I already wrote about this in another thread at: I post it again to raise our sensitivity towards the plights of our guys that we encounter. obviously, not everyone suffers from what is reported in this well written report - but do we really know the background history of the guys that we off?

After Sauna Mania, I met my regular guy at Foodland for dinner. "Why you no go my bar see me?" "But I see you every day at Foodland. We eat dinner together." "Come see me in my bar tonight." Tonight I was alone because there wasn't any forum member around whom I can hang out with. I still hadn't decided which bar to go. "If you want to go other bar, it's ok." I explained that even if I go to his bar, I would not off him directly. I didn't want to deprive him of opportunities of being offed by customers. Last week I already met him long-time. But the real reason I didn't want to go to his bar is I hated the feeling of jealously when I saw him with customers. To his credit, he had sensed it. He knew what to say instead to me. "Come my bar see my friend. Help my friend. Buy drink for my friend." OK. Tonight I will go to Freshboys.

The guy who doesn't want women in combat has his mother fighting his battles for him.

I love ALL the boys. haha. It seems in the end the boys from Myanmar living in Thailand were my favorite.

I'd be interested in your comparisons between S. American MB's and Asia.... price and quality, lol I almost thought you might be Namazu using a new name 🤷‍♂️ He did an analysis before that was interesting and detailed.

no idea how those numbers were calculated. 10 offs even at 5000 a pop is 5000 i.e. 1450 $. I venture to say not many boys have that many offs although some certainly do. And 5000 tips are not that common either, certainly not 10 times in row. The same goes with all those trips and 5 stars, these are more exception then rule and none of those trips and fine bedding pays boys bills and get sent to old folks at home . I agree that most do better than peers working at menial jobs but it says not much. At end of day unless we sit in boys wallet we can only estimate their earnings but I doubt there's reason to be jealous about their earning potential. once I offed D from Tawan , one who moonlighted as motorsai driver during day. When he was getting dressed to go another boy K told me it's D's first off in three months. As he was very passionate in the room I sensed it must be truth.

rich people it seems have their own unique set of problems

I started using them after Mike's Taxi screwed me three times in a row !😡 I took the hint and moved onto the Limo 🚕🚗, didn't have any probs with them but your post tells me after I book I need to send them a message to re-confirm ,probably several times to make sure they turn up 😅

From the other post: I asked him if he liked the work. He said 5/10. Depends on the night. He told me he usually gets offed by 10 guys a month. Between that and tips at the bar, he earns $1500-$1800 per month. Alternative jobs would pay $300-$400 per month. And as @gayinpattaya said, we think the MB are down and out barely making it..... many if not most do pretty well compared to their peers working in a menial job. I generally invite the hotel front desk clerks or someone I run into that doesn't worked in a tipped position out to a dinner/drink, no strings attached because they're usually not cute or my type...but are nice people. They appreciate it a million times more than the guys that get handed 100 baht notes just for standing and looking pretty. Now, I'm not saying being a MB is easy work, I wouldn't want to have sex with anyone here, including myself or Olddaddy, no matter how much he offered me 😆 But they do pretty well, iPhone 16 as a gift or purchased isn't cheap... and those trips and stays at 5* hotels 😳

In order to answer your question more thoroughly, here is a bit of history: before he came to Thailand, J. had 2 ex-boyfriends. One is Thai, who he met totally online, dated a few months, even prepared to travel to Thailand to meet then somehow found out that Thai had a local boyfriend. Then he got a Laos boyfriend, who lived in a different province and who used to pick him up on his car (having your own car in Laos rural areas is a big deal so I guess this ex-boyfriend was pretty well-off by the local living standard). J.'s first and only sexual experiences in Laos, according to him, were with this ex-boyfriend, but "we don't have sex that much because he lives far away." It looks like this boyfriend doted on him and also provided him financial support (J. worked in a shoe factory at the time, which paid minimum wages). Then 7 months later, the same old story: he found out the boyfriend had another boy in yet another province, so cut him out of his life completely. The boyfriend later wanted to get back together, but J. said "No, he hurt me badly with his cheating, I could never forgive". Then he moved to Thailand and met me. Again, this is what he said: I'm the second person he ever had sex with. He made it clear that he wants a long-term relationship but also that he expects financial support from his partner because he himself is responsible for a big family back home. "My friends have had chances to travel and have fun but all I know since high-school graduation is work and work." When he introduced me to his mother, he even asked "Can I say you are my boyfriend?" There was a tinge in my heart that he even has to ask for permission. But as he explained, this time the relationship is different. There is a big difference between us in terms of social and financial status, and I'm also his customer from whom he received money in exchange for sexual favors. It's funny that when I travel to his village to meet his family for the first time, the whole village stopped by just to see what J's foreign boyfriend looks like (Who spread the news, I have no idea, but the gossip mills there obviously just spin as fast as in JC) Back to your other question, I used to think that he must have other, however limited, sexual encounters with other customers because after all, he needs money and he works in JC. But to this day, I haven't had a single concrete evidence of that. The whole bar, where he works, knew about us and appeared to cheer for us. After just a few weeks, every time someone saw me, the first thing they said is "J. is blah blah". I once asked the bartender "Why everybody mentioned J. the instant they see me. I'm just one of his customers." And you know what he said. "Because from beginning, you guys never looked like customer and boy. Whenever I see you two together, I see a couple." I treat many boys in that bar nicely including those I never off, buying them drinks on those "lean" times when they couldn't make one single drink the whole night. Some keep an eye on J. for my sake, give me updates about him when I'm not around, but not a single one ever said he saw J. went to a hotel with a customer. What @gayinpattayawho I believe lives full-time in Jomtien and knows a lot about what's going on in the complex, just said in his comment above, further cemented the belief that he probably never went with another customer. I myself never demand that he can only go with me though, but I did say if he has sex with other customers, always play it safe to protect both of us. I know J.'s type (Asian, slim, smooth and fair complexion). There was one time when suspicion raised its ugly head, I decided to test J. (a decision I later regretted) by asking H., a Taiwanese friend, who I know would be J's type, to approach him, posing as a customer. This is a drama in its own right that I may recount another time, but after found out that H. was my friend, J. did tell H. "Min was the only person I have sex with since I arrived in Pattaya" (J. himself never told me this). Thanks for the info though. That helps I'm still trying to learn more about J. and his values in life, and on many occasions, have struggled to understand why he did what he did.

Wednesday was lazing at hotel swimming pool and movie at Centralworld. Came back to Silom to meet my regular guy for dinner and we took a taxi to famous place Tawandang German Brewery in Chong Nonsi. It offers live Thai music and beer that is brewed in-house. Unfortunately, there were no seats for us. It was fully booked! Will make sure I do a booking in advance during next trip. We took a taxi back to Silom and I knew a place that has live music. 9th floor of Silom Edge. We took the lift with many guys who were there to go to Beef. "Beef gay bar. Like G O D." My guy is surprised by long lines. He says he knows about G O D but has never gone there. He has gone to DJ Station with customer though. We went to restaurant bar with outdoor seating named Throwback. We had steak and beer. 1400 baht. More expensive compared to our usual Foodland dinner but it was a nice experience and my guy got to see the outside of Beef for first time. Maybe a customer will bring him there? After dinner, he went to his bar Freshboys while I went to Moonlight where I had promised to off Laos twink. We were happy to see each other again. He's still as cute as ever. I asked mamasan whether Boss working today. He said he comes late at 11.30pm. I didn't want to wait that long so Laos twink and I went back to hotel room.

Unnecessary reaction.

no, we don't in most cases indeed. Still nothing there explains wanton disregard to agreed terms of service I described in my Aug 2024 trip report. Human trafficking can't e blamed for guy promising to meet at at 3 pm and at 5pm cheerfully sending Line " sorry, I slept in " or one asking to toilet break , taking his phone with him and after 1/2 hr there announcing ' my brother called me , I must go now ' and accepting 2500 reduction in agreed tip

Crickets .... I guess that's his way of staying out of jail, because even if he has me on Ignore, he sees your reply 😉

about the same number like in Moscow and Ryazan alone by latest estimation

You're the only person I know that had problems with Mike's.... sure it wasn't you that screwed up, you seem confused a lot, on purpose or not, I'm still not sure 🤨

you don't want Moses to land in jail, specially Russian one , do you ?

I've already e-mailed Tom Homan with my plan: Tell all the illegals that sanctuary cities are safe, and when they get there, round 'em up and ship 'em all out wholesale. Deport, deport, deport, and deport more..... The new Sheriff means business. TRUMP2024 MAGA

Trumps inability to get his original picks thru because of GOP pushback will only serve to infuriate him and make things worse going forward. the purpose of Trump 2.0 was to have total loyalty and subservience from the GOP and his team. The fact that they oppose him shows in isnt in COMPLETE power, and will only serve for his revenge and retribution list to grow. But, let him spend time going after his own party Trumps never intended govern, and therefore didnt need to nominate SERIOUS, competent people. The people he picked for the most part would only serve to destroy the departments for which they were picked, and that is the REAL point and goal. So dont expect the inconceivable choices to end with Patel and Hegseth... There are plenty more in Trumps orbit.

It looks to me you’ve come up with a new career idea every few hours

I ain't gonna let $18 (100 real) dictate whether to rent or refuse to rent something I lust after. After all, lust is the reason I'm there.