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In order to answer your question more thoroughly, here is a bit of history: before he came to Thailand, J. had 2 ex-boyfriends. One is Thai, who he met totally online, dated a few months, even prepared to travel to Thailand to meet then somehow found out that Thai had a local boyfriend. Then he got a Laos boyfriend, who lived in a different province and who used to pick him up on his car (having your own car in Laos rural areas is a big deal so I guess this ex-boyfriend was pretty well-off by the local living standard). J.'s first and only sexual experiences in Laos, according to him, were with this ex-boyfriend, but "we don't have sex that much because he lives far away." It looks like this boyfriend doted on him and also provided him financial support (J. worked in a shoe factory at the time, which paid minimum wages). Then 7 months later, the same old story: he found out the boyfriend had another boy in yet another province, so cut him out of his life completely. The boyfriend later wanted to get back together, but J. said "No, he hurt me badly with his cheating, I could never forgive". Then he moved to Thailand and met me. Again, this is what he said: I'm the second person he ever had sex with. He made it clear that he wants a long-term relationship but also that he expects financial support from his partner because he himself is responsible for a big family back home. "My friends have had chances to travel and have fun but all I know since high-school graduation is work and work." When he introduced me to his mother, he even asked "Can I say you are my boyfriend?" There was a tinge in my heart that he even has to ask for permission. But as he explained, this time the relationship is different. There is a big difference between us in terms of social and financial status, and I'm also his customer from whom he received money in exchange for sexual favors. It's funny that when I travel to his village to meet his family for the first time, the whole village stopped by just to see what J's foreign boyfriend looks like (Who spread the news, I have no idea, but the gossip mills there obviously just spin as fast as in JC) Back to your other question, I used to think that he must have other, however limited, sexual encounters with other customers because after all, he needs money and he works in JC. But to this day, I haven't had a single concrete evidence of that. The whole bar, where he works, knew about us and appeared to cheer for us. After just a few weeks, every time someone saw me, the first thing they said is "J. is blah blah". I once asked the bartender "Why everybody mentioned J. the instant they see me. I'm just one of his customers." And you know what he said. "Because from beginning, you guys never looked like customer and boy. Whenever I see you two together, I see a couple." I treat many boys in that bar nicely including those I never off, buying them drinks on those "lean" times when they couldn't make one single drink the whole night. Some keep an eye on J. for my sake, give me updates about him when I'm not around, but not a single one ever said he saw J. went to a hotel with a customer. What @gayinpattayawho I believe lives full-time in Jomtien and knows a lot about what's going on in the complex, just said in his comment above, further cemented the belief that he probably never went with another customer. I myself never demand that he can only go with me though, but I did say if he has sex with other customers, always play it safe to protect both of us. I know J.'s type (Asian, slim, smooth and fair complexion). There was one time when suspicion raised its ugly head, I decided to test J. (a decision I later regretted) by asking H., a Taiwanese friend, who I know would be J's type, to approach him, posing as a customer. This is a drama in its own right that I may recount another time, but after found out that H. was my friend, J. did tell H. "Min was the only person I have sex with since I arrived in Pattaya" (J. himself never told me this). Thanks for the info though. That helps I'm still trying to learn more about J. and his values in life, and on many occasions, have struggled to understand why he did what he did.

I'm in a mood of reminiscence today, so in the spirit of the Bangkokbois and his Dancing with Devil series, I'll relate here some of my own falling in love with a bar boy. I met my special boy, J., in Jomtien a year ago. When we first met, I thought he's the best looking boy in the bar at that time (and that's saying something because that bar is full of boys my type). He told me he only started work 4 days ago, already received quite a few offers for off, but he said no to all of them. "If I don't like and feel comfortable with a customer, I won't go with him to the hotel." "Would you go with me?" I asked after more than an hour sitting with J., talking about his life back in Laos, his family and also his previous love life. "Yes." There's no hesitance in his answer. "For how much?" "2000" "Why so much? Other boys only ask for 1500, and many would go for 1000." (to be honest, if he asked for 3000, I would still agree because he's exactly my type - body, face and personality even (and a killer smile to top it off), but I feel it's my obligation to bargain so as not to upset the market and some fellow customers "I know, but I want 2000." "Is 1500 ok?" "No, 2000." J. was firm. "Why?" "Because I never go with anyone before and this is my first time." (not sure about the logic of that argument, but I gave up haggling quickly, feeling thankful he didn't ask for 3000). So I paid the bar fine (300), my own drink and the boy drink (150), and off we went to Boyztown, where my hotel is. On the baht bus, I asked him a question I usually ask boys "What type of guys do you like to be your boyfriend?" "Someone like you." was his answer, again with no hesitance. At that time, I just laughed it off (well, bar boy standard line) and told him exactly what I thought "You would say that to all customers." "No, I do not." He seemed upset. After almost a year together, I finally believe he meant what he said that day. The next day, I'm back to the bar in order to off him again. I was early but he's already with a customer, someone from Australia. So I sat with another boy, whom I chose randomly, at a table opposite, so that I could watch what's going at the other table (I know I should not do that but I can't help myself). The customer seemed smitten with J.. He hugged the boy all the time, ordered food from outside, even bought him a bouquet when a door-to-door flower seller stopped by. At my table, ironically, things went the other way around. The boy sitting with me (who happened to be D. also a new boy, who started work as the same time as J.. He is the one who was asked to give a customer 40-min blowjob I talked about in the other thread), seemed very passionate and clingy. He hugged me tight, his hands all over my body, even found their way inside my underwear. He placed my hand on his shorts to show me he's already getting hard. Kept asking me if I want to off him. Unfortunately, my attention was all on the other table. To be fair, the cheerful Australian who sat with J. seems a very nice guy, except that he... sat with J. And then, he paid the off fee. "So much for I only go with someone I like and feel comfortable huh" I thought. Why I felt so upset about a money boy I just met? He's a money boy and that's what he does. I kept reasoning with myself all the way to M-bar, another bar where lots of boys know me. I need a distraction. And you know what, there's that customer again with J. sitting in a dark corner. Obviously, they just moved bar. I don't want to stay there, so I left again. Enough for today, I decided to go back. When I reached my hotel in Boyztown, I got J.'s message. It turned out he only agreed to go drinking in another bar (the customer did ask him for a hotel visit at the end of the night but he turned that down and still received a generous tip of 1500B just for being a companion) and he was free already. J. also seemed upset because he actually checked with D. to see if I eventually offed D. and D. somehow got the idea that I would come back to off him after I'm done with bar hopping. I don't recall saying anything to that effect, but after all, I don't remember whatever I said to D. back in the bar. The third day, I learned my lesson and told J. in advance I will come to take him off. On the bus, I received his message "Where are you? There's a customer who wants to sit with me, so I have to check with you. You want me to wait for you or is it okay I sit with him first?" Of course, I want J. to wait for me, but I also want him to make more money with drinks so told him it's ok to sit with the customer, I could wait until he's free. What a wait it was. The customer, an Asian one and quite young this time, sat with J. for nearly 3 hours through a bunch of drinks, probably trying to get him to agree to a hotel visit. After nearly 2 hours, I got impatient and messaged J, saying if the customer wants to off him, he can go but let me know so that I don't waste my time waiting. "NOOO, I want to go with you" came back the instant answer. Then, I decided to watch the show in M2M bar to kill time. About 45 minutes into the show, I got J.'s message "Come, quick, before I have another customer". It feels like a who-gets-to-the-bar-boy-first competition. I quickly paid the bill, left the show midway, and walked briskly back to the bar. J. literally ran from inside to meet me at the entrance with his stuff. That trip, the only boy I offed is J. and the rest is history. PS. Last night, on our way back to my hotel situated right in JC, J. ran into a customer, who sat with him a few times in the bar. "Where are you going?" The customer asked on passing by. "To hotel" J. flashed his irresistible smile, pointing at me. The customer stopped mid-stride, turned and did a double take. J., to a hotel, with a customer?

Hi everyone, I recently arrived in Bangkok and thought I would update with what's been going with me so far. The day of my arrival happened to coincide with the Crete Party (which is mentioned in a post in the 'Gay Bangkok' section, thanks to @bkkmfj2648) and seeing it was taking place in the hotel that I was staying at, I thought I would give it a go, despite the hefty foreigner price tag (5500 as opposed to 4900 for locals - although not too much of a difference) and I was in contact with @jason1975 to go together. The arrival time of my flight and the time that registration started was already a little bit tight for timing, but I would be able to make it work. Except that my departing flight was now scheduled to leave an hour late. Okay, so I resigned that I was going to be late. I contacted the organisers and they said this is okay. Anyhow, flight on Thai Airways Royal Silk class was smooth and was fed quite a lot of food, landed at 16:15, walking to immigration took a little while but immigration didn't take too long. I think I was eligible for fast track but I didn't worry about it. Luggage came out as soon as I got to the belt (usually I travel light but I thought I would take a suitcase with me this time as I am here for a while), raced down to the basement floor to exchange some cash as I only had 500B to my name, and off I went onto the ARL then switched to the MRT at Makkasan/Petchaburi all the way to Silom. Seeing it was a Saturday night I wasn't expecting the trains to be so full. Yes I could have gotten a taxi but I don't generally take taxis unless I really really have to. Anyhow, reached Crowne Plaza around 18:15, unpacked a little and changed my shirt (didn't even have time to have a shower, yes gross), and raced downstairs to the Crete Party to meet @jason1975 and @Raposa - first time meeting both and really nice people. I was only an hour and a half late and I didn't miss too much. I won't go into much detail about this part as Jason has already mentioned it in great detail in his trip report, but all in all it was a really nice way to spend my first night back in Bangkok. I had not been here since January of this year. After the party we went to Jupiter, and whilst not the most favourite of places, the guys are amazingly attractive and some of the shows were quite good. I did have my eye one of the guys, but I was already super exhausted and just really wanted to get back to the hotel and have a shower and catch up on some sleep. I said my goodbyes at around midnight and that was it for the night. I'd like to also mention that this trip that I'm currently taking is the longest one that I've ever taken - I'll be here for 2 months so I'm just going to take it easy and not be too rushed, and not centre my holiday so much around boys (although there will be quite a number I would like to meet). I'm staying in a number of hotels in Bangkok and also visiting common touristy places such as Pattaya/Jomtien, Phuket, Koh Samui as well as Khao Lak, Koh Yao Yai and Koh Tao (thanks to @bkkmfj2648 suggestion in another thread). The following day I had a 2 hour massage at Prime (1 hour Thai/1 hour oil) which was amazing and later on in the evening I met Jason and again other forum member for a drink at Hotmale beer bar which was fun and then over to Dreamboy where we had a booth seat near the front which is where I never sit (I prefer to sit right up the back) but since I am with company, it was good to sit up the front. Upon entering, my favourite boy waved at me and I called him down and we had a nice catch up, and he was happy to see me and happy to be offed that night. The bar was not very full for a Saturday night, but I guess high season is coming very shortly. We watched the shows some of which were new and some recycled but it was good to watch something that I would not be able to in my own country. It was good to gossip with Jason during the show. Boy came back with me for short time and then went to the gym afterwards. The next day I had another appointment at Prime, 0.5 hour scrub (which he got into every nook and cranny) and 1.5 hour oil which was actually quite sensual and good coverage, with no modesty draping. After lunch I went back to rest at the hotel and was planning to go to Karaoke with Jason and his boys, but I ended up having some stomach troubles so I thought it would be best to stay in, much to my dismay. Luckily it was short lived. For now, I've now moved into another area of Bangkok, away from Silom, as I've just had some minor surgery so I will probably not be too active in the next week or so whilst I recover, but I am here for a while so plenty of time for more shenanigans. There is just so much to do, and I am just so happy to be back in my happy place!

Which is why I have this posted on my social media:

Wednesday was lazing at hotel swimming pool and movie at Centralworld. Came back to Silom to meet my regular guy for dinner and we took a taxi to famous place Tawandang German Brewery in Chong Nonsi. It offers live Thai music and beer that is brewed in-house. Unfortunately, there were no seats for us. It was fully booked! Will make sure I do a booking in advance during next trip. We took a taxi back to Silom and I knew a place that has live music. 9th floor of Silom Edge. We took the lift with many guys who were there to go to Beef. "Beef gay bar. Like G O D." My guy is surprised by long lines. He says he knows about G O D but has never gone there. He has gone to DJ Station with customer though. We went to restaurant bar with outdoor seating named Throwback. We had steak and beer. 1400 baht. More expensive compared to our usual Foodland dinner but it was a nice experience and my guy got to see the outside of Beef for first time. Maybe a customer will bring him there? After dinner, he went to his bar Freshboys while I went to Moonlight where I had promised to off Laos twink. We were happy to see each other again. He's still as cute as ever. I asked mamasan whether Boss working today. He said he comes late at 11.30pm. I didn't want to wait that long so Laos twink and I went back to hotel room.

There were several web sites with forums years ago that were dedicated to gay Thailand, in addition to the excellent Dreaded Ned site. One popular forum was Gay Ting Tong, run by Oogleman. This may ring a bell:

The ever wise @vinapu said, and it's true.... if you live in Thailand, you can't look forward to visiting Thailand. The best part of Thailand is the looking forward to going, lol

Some SHORT-TIME price updates for Pattaya (based on boys' input) There are basically three levels of price for short time 1. Tourist level: 1500B, boys usually ask for 2000B but ready to be bargained down to 1500. Some even maintain two tiers: 1500 for no anal & 2000 with anal. If boys accompany you to another bar for drinking and/or watching shows but no sex involved, they usually expect anything between 500 and 1000 (plus the bar fine). 2. Local expat level: 700B to 1000B 3. Local Thai level: 500B (usually made via apps like Blued and Hornet) When J., my boy, heard about that 500B deal, he laughed out loud and said "It's ridiculous!" He was probably spoilt by the 3000B I normally give him, but I told him to put himself in other boys' shoes. If you are alone in a foreign country, far away from home, and you have no steady income, no boyfriend/regular customers to turn to when in need, you probably would do anything just to survive. There is a Thai boy named Th., who just moved to Pattaya last month from Bangkok. He's currently working in JC's M-bar, where most of the boys are freelancers. 18 years old, gay but straight-acting, quite good-looking (tall, silk smooth skin with fine facial features, slim but not too fit). I asked if he had many offs since he moved here, and he said no, mostly drinks. Why? You are pretty! Because when customers approached him, he asked for 3000B (because he got paid like that in Bangkok) and they all bargained down that price by an absurd amount (some even started from hundreds up!). I told him, with that level of expectation, he should move to a more touristy area, like Boyztown. Actually, he would have the best chance at Boyz Boyz Boyz, but too bad that the bar's age limit was upped to 21 about a year ago. Speaking of Boyz Boyz Boyz, most of their working boys are straight and usually expect at least 3000 from lady customers, who in fact tend to give more. If they are forced to deal with a gay customer, they may ask for 5000 upward either to make it worth their while or simply so that the customer would give up. I also notice a more noticeable trend of boys picking and choosing customers. K., a very attractive Laos boy, who just started working in Jomtien a few weeks ago (he was a Mor lam dancer back in Laos), told me "I know customers choose boys, but we choose customers too." In his first day at work, probably because of his good look, big "tool", and new-face freshness, a customer offered to take him for the whole weekend for a generous tip, only to receive a firm NO. The bar staff, when he told that story to me, added "Let's wait until the low season and he'll see."

Mah hobby is sex travel (Asia) (especially Bangkok). I look for friends having same hobby because I often go discovering the boys myself (massage, sauna, hire...) I enjoy watching group action at VCKcoolspace. I enjoy sitting with muscular guys at Tawan Bar (The One Bar, current name) I have info of some boys, know the rate to hire of some place/shop/bar/spa Anyone having trip to Bangkok upcoming can join, message me or leave ur Lin.e, thank you.

Glad to go to Dreamboys with you and meeting your regular guy. I have seen him many times in the past when I visit Dreamboys but never got to know him. Sexy muscular toned dancer. Fate conspired for me to bump into him and another Dreamboys guy the next evening during dinner at Foodland. How could I not get up to say hi to them and pick up their dinner bill. If not for my regular guy at my table, I probably would have shifted to sit with them!

The boys don’t live by universal principles. Like us, each one is unique and has his own way of proceeding. They way they make their living is fraught with potential problems most of us will never confront. Some of us appreciate this while others remain forever oblivious.

I think many boys are aware of that but they probably also have their own principle(s) to stick too. Early in our relationship, actually when I just started out as his regular customer for a month, I did put that question to J. "If you agree to have sex with more customers, you can make a lot more money. Why don't you do it? You are working here as a money boy. Sex is, after all, just job." "No, if I don't have feeling for a guy, I won't have sex with him. Period." "But you will lose out on a lot of money..." "Money is not everything. I just try to get what I can." That conversation was a turning point for me as I started to see him in a different light - a young person of principles. I started to make sure, no matter how many times we met that month, I gave him enough money to live and to send home (a poor family of 8 siblings, all farming, father died of heart problems 2 years ago).

great observations and confirming what I found. Only thing boys should remember is that market works both ways. Being too firm may yield higher income but also chase customer away , tonight or for good. Boys have choices and I like that part but so do we and I like that part as well . I stopped seeing two great bodied semi-regulars only because one was too firm asking for more than our regular rate, another one asked to cut our regular 3 hrs session by 1 hr because he had another customer. Fine , good for you and good bye for now. BoyzBoyzBoyz firmly established itself as boy bar for girls , off fee is ridiculous 1050 and it the wish to ask 5000 just to chase customer away , fine with me , again there are choices nearby, short walk or 2 hrs by bus away. But before we take any offence, they must be doing something right as bar seems to be packed night after night and boys, fully dressed, are still crowding the stage. Doesn't appeal for many but certainly does for scores of others

Rather extreme comment.

Last night, I sat in my favorite haunt with J., my regular boy, whom I have been taken off almost every day whenever I'm in Pattaya since last Dec (1-year anniversary coming up). As usual, I asked him to pick a friend to sit with us. J., from Laos, called T., another Laos boy, over. He said "Although we are not close, I want to help him. I hardly ever saw he had customers. " T. is slim, not bad looking but quiet and reserved in manner (kinda out of place in this kind of bar), and on the older side in terms of barboy age (28). We talked and he indeed had few customers. Been working here for nearly two months, only 4 off so far, not so many drinks either, so he barely made it. While we were chatting, a customer, who was sitting alone at the next table, looked on with interest. Then he asked me in English if T. is also working in the bar, probably because he was fully dressed while all other boys (including my own) were shirtless. Feeling an opportunity is presenting itself, I confirmed and asked if he wanted to sit with the boy, explaining that although T. was sitting with us, I'm more than glad to let him switch tables. The guy appeared he wasn't sure what to do, saying that he's pretty new to the scene and still trying to figure out how things work. So T. remained at our table but the customer joined in the conversation on a translation-chain basis, meaning he said something to me in English, I Google-translated into Laos then showed it to J. who in turns repeated to T. It went like that for a while, and all of a sudden, the customer said loudly, to no one in particular, "It would be better if he takes off his shirt". When that idea finally reached T. down the translation line, he still looked sort of uncertain about what to do. It was time something needs to be done to speed things up. So I stood up, marched over to T., who was sitting across the table, and took off his shirt with my hands. Then I chaperoned both him and his drink to the next table, and gently pushed him down next to the customer. Now T. can communicate directly with the customer using google translation. Things started going smoother and the customer ordered two more drinks for himself and T. The customer is Dutch but lives in Spain. He said he is quite reserved himself so has great affinity for a shy boy like T., who, in the customer's words, obviously was not self-aware of how handsome he is. The customer himself is not bad-looking either, and J. confirmed he checked off several things on a bar boy's list "neat-looking, polite, no body odor, not too old, not too fat." "I'm not gonna take advantage of the boy the first time we talk. I can't promise that the next time though." He said. Gentlemanly conduct, but me think "Please. He's ready to be taken advantage of. That's why he's working here". Then I noticed there was still some (physical) distance between T. and the customer, who sat ramrod straight. I told J., who told T. to get closer. Since T. still didn't look like he knows what to do, I gestured for him to follow my lead: I nudged closer to J., hugged him, rested my head lightly on his shoulder, and placed a peck on his cheek. T., albeit a bit haltingly, followed suit, down to the pecking part. The customer, obviously seeing the whole thing, looked both amused and happy. He declared "I've been here for only three days and I'm already in love!" Again, I told J., who reminded T. to ask for the customer's contact. They later parted ways with what looks like a big tip for T. and the promise by the customer that he will come back and talk to the boy again tomorrow. I believe, he, being such a gentleman, will keep his word. I also believe I would make a good Mamasan in case I need a side job. To end on a warm note: late into the night, after J. went back to his room, I came back to the bar to watch the soi winding down. I looked inside and saw T., now totally shirtless, dancing energetically with other boys, smiling broadly when he saw me. He seemed to get that confidence boost he needed. Then I sat at the bar outside, chatted with the bartender and watched people. Somehow I might look a bit lonely and sad, to the point that another gentleman, who'd obviously mistaken me for someone in need of a customer, came to give me a hug upon leaving the bar and whispered in my ear "Don't be too shy. Things will get better!"

slowly but surely we are being shackled by AI and are brave enough to even applaud it.

When I was coming for shorter stays prior to retiring, this was my go to hotel. It does a lot of the important things right and your dates treated with discretion and courtesy. Good buffet breakfast, compact but very comfortable rooms (your LT may be in no hurry to leave) and terrific rooftop infinity pool.

Why is it unfortunate for me? I wasn’t an investor. Then again, I don’t believe neither you or me qualify as oligarchs. 🙂

Thanks! Indeed, as would many members, but, I think, not all, especially those who like to force boys down to an uneconomic fee.

I also visit Maxwell Onsen. The boys there are young 20s 30s, good body shape, muscle, good looking, Chinese, Korean, Japanese, Western and Thai. (Most Asian). They're quite elegant, some actions at the private room upstairs but not many... Environment quite clean, new... Food offered looks delicious.

As a hopeless romantic, I love what you wrote above. I wish you and J all the BEST!!

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I agree. Own principles and also own calculations. They know more about their income stream than us. What we consider generous , they may consider cheap. On another hand customer we will call cheap Charlie, in boys eyes just threw him life line. Some also live from day to day and if they make enough today, they resolve to worry tomorrow about tomorrow. When we think about that , at end of day it's how we handle our own household economy sometimes spending money on things we can't afford , at other times being ridiculously frugal.

Hegseth hilariously says he will not drink if approved as SecDef. Apparently he intends to keep drinking otherwise. 😀

It is not mocking if we laugh together!

Imagine what the soi dogs are saying about you 🥺

Just like Corporal Jones: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI2mCG8trhc

You live in paradise 13 months a year and you expect us, suffering 30 hours trips to get there just to share your misery for 2-3 weeks to feel sorry for you ? no way I'd say. as for 2nd part , old advice seem to be lost on you ' you want love in Thailand , rent it"

calling member names is not allowed on this forum, lol

Thank you for confirming this. The problem in this gayguides.com forum is that the majority of the readership are what I label as: seasonals - they live here for part of the year for 4 to 5 months, tourists - people on vacation who stay for a maximum of a couple of weeks. Generally, the above mentioned groups cannot sympathize with what it is like to live here FULL-TIME and consequently, cannot relate or sympathize with the struggle that us who live here full time, in both the low and high seasons, experience on a day to day basis. I am also guilty. For many many years, I was in the above mentioned tourist category, and the fact that almost everything here is transactional did not bother me because it was such good value for money when compared with my originating home country. It never occurred to me that this required transactional nature would grate on me later in my life when I would eventually live here as a full time retiree - and this has unfortunately been an unpleasant trade-off discovery. A good Thai friend of mine - she told me last month that she thinks that if I did not live in Pattaya (a very transactional type of city) that I would be better off. The problem is to discover where? Hua Hin ? Koh Samui ? Chiang Mai ?

We went to Good Boys. Forum member took his guy and left. I saw number 21 handsome twink from Myanmar whom I had noticed last week. Without hesitation, I called him over. "I take you back hotel tonight but no sex. I have massage finish today so I no sex with you. But you go with me tonight ok?" He nodded and I signalled to mamasan I was offing him. He went to get dressed and I went to look at the guys on stage. Vietnamese massage guy in afternoon had told me he had 2 good friends in Good Boys and he told me their numbers. I saw one of them on stage and smiled at him before tipping him 100 baht. He was unsure why he received the tip then I said, "I know your friend." Myanmar twink appeared and we went to hotel. Upon opening the door, he understood why I wasn't looking for sex after he saw the messy bed as though a tornado had hit it. We sat on couch and chatted. Lots of hugging and cuddling as he told me about himself. He is studying to learn Thai in daytime but works at bar during the nights. Half an hour later, we ended up at Stranger Bar in Soi 4 to watch drag queens. We were chatting about the discos - DJ Station, G O D, Beef etc and I had asked him if there's any place he hasn't gone but would like to visit. He said Stranger Bar and so we went there. Fun place with mixed crowd. As we exited at 12.30am, we saw a group of ladies standing outside and about to pay the entrance fee (440 baht with 2 dirnks). They spoke Mandarin and were from mainland China. One of them was unsure they were at the right place. I spoke to them in Mandarin, "The bar you want to go is next door" and I pointed at Jupiter. They thanked me and I went to Foodland with Myanmar twink for supper. We parted ways after that and I gave him his tip for short time.

I met him in Balcony bar as he was there for an Isarn food night, went specifically to say hi and thank him.... he was surprised to find out how "famous" he was, said it was basically a hobby and trying to help people discover gay Bangkok easier. He seemed like a very nice guy.....his site surely helped a lot of us I'm sure.

Perhaps it’s because that those who work in massage shops provide intimate hands-on service to all comers. I don’t think you do that in your workplace. But I stand to be corrected on that point, Olddaddy, as you are currently exploring many new careers simultaneously. 🙂

Daniel, I agree with you to be careful. I was in spending a week in Sousse 12 years ago and it did not come in my mind to bring anyone into the hotel since security was strict. There were enough offers from the hotel staff and even the security staff an to be happy... I was approached by several guys on the street that came up to me and saying: do you remember me?, I work in your hotel.. obviously it was a lie. The hotel staff were great fuckers, and I believe that they communicated among each others since I often got more than one offer a day. Rough sex but good sized cocks and rock hard!

In reality he just wants to be a "fluffer"

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We lost the Iraq war, which was a stupid Republican idea. Trump, a stupid lying felon, supported the Iraq war before he opposed it. Then he lied about it, which is more stupid Republican behavior. Hegseth stupidly drank and womanized his way out of a bunch of jobs. There is no question about his courage. The question is about his alcoholism, womanizing, and proven skill at financial mismanagement and failure. Hegseth is stupid. You are cruel. Cruelty is worse than stupidity. So the nice thing about this is that Hegseth has more character than you. That's really saying something! TRUMP 2024 STUPIDITY LIES CRUELTY INCOMPETENCE FAILURE

I sense professional here

From CNBC Russian authorities are trying to stem panic over the ruble’s sharp fall this week, with the central bank forced to intervene on Wednesday to support the currency. The ruble weakened to 114 against the greenback on Wednesday, hitting its lowest level since March 2022, shortly after Russia invaded Ukraine. Russia’s central bank (CBR) was forced to intervene on the day to prop up the ruble, saying it would halt foreign purchases on the domestic currency market for the rest of the year “in order to reduce the volatility of financial markets.” Following the intervention, the ruble was trading at 110 against the dollar on Thursday morning. Russian President Vladimir Putin commented on the situation earlier, saying there was no need to panic about the depreciation of the ruble and that the currency’s fluctuations were affected by budget payments and seasonal shifts. “In my opinion, the situation is under control, and there are absolutely no grounds for panic,” Putin told reporters, news agency RIA Novosti reported. “As for the fluctuations in the ruble exchange rate, this is connected not only with inflation processes, it is also connected with payments to the budget, it is connected with oil prices. There are many factors of a seasonal nature,” he added, in comments translated by Google.

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You are a rich whore who travels non-stop, lol

Eyes and ears everywhere on that Soi, especially down that end. Very little happens without everyone knowing about it. Bored retired gays love to gossip.

The same number as you have.

Nope. I refuse to step foot anywhere near Sunee Bar, the family who own it also M Bar and Club Lounge, or the violent boys who work there. But your reference to a boy J. Who never went with customers And a few old fuckers who spent a fortune on drinks and tip but he always refused to go short-time. 1 year ago. I am 90% sure I know the boy you mean. If it is him he caused quite a shit storm amount the cheap Charlies. I could even take a guess you were the Asian guy who took him to your hotel, and 2 or 3 old fucks were angry for week about that. Funny as 🤣

There was another gay website covering Thailand, as well as Dreaded ned, but I can't remember the name! Can anyone help? Also when did Barbiery (?), on Surawong, appear?

Now that I was in a luxurious room, I could ask massage guys over. I have 2 regular massage guys (one Thai and one Vietnamese). I sent a Line message to lean Vietnamese guy working at nearby soi 6. 3pm he said. I said ok and swam at hotel pool while waiting for him. When he arrived and got into hotel room, I wasted no time to undress him. Hehe. The next one hour was a wild affair of massage and sex. About 45 minutes after we started, his phone rang. It was the boss of his massage shop asking him where he was. Apparently, he didn't inform his boss of this "outcall" and he had slipped out quietly. He told boss he will be back soon. Luckily it was the towards the end of the hour when the boss called. Imagine boss calling when we just started or only halfway. Anyway, the last 15 minutes was an orgasmic affair. We had to get it done quickly. The feeling of getting caught in the act added to the kink factor. We showered then I tipped him and off he went back to his massage shop.

The culture inside a massage shop is a microcosm for a greater Southeast Asian society. It’s especially evident where guys from different ASEAN countries are working together. You may have single and married guys working side by side with gay and straight—and anything in between—servicing the same customers day in a day out. It becomes a workplace where they do their job and manage to get along despite their differences. For us westerners, this may be a difficult concept to accept. We grew up for the most part in homophobic cultures where it was inconceivable that gays could mix easily with straights. But with few exceptions, that’s how these shops function in the tourist areas of Bangkok. (I can’t comment on Pattaya because I have no experience there). I don’t think I would want it any other way.

Biden pardoning his son is a spit in the ocean compared to what Trump has done, and will do.

Here is my little experience in Sousse, but I was there 4 years ago. I lived in an All inclusive hotel very far from the city center, so the opportunities for sex were limited. - I went to the center several times on a local minibus and once four local young Tunisians came up to me at the bus stop and started asking who I was vacationing with. When they found out that I was alone, they asked me directly if I wanted hashish or a dick. They offered to go with them and suck all four of them, but the area was practically deserted, besides, they spoke to each other in Arabic and laughed loudly about something, so I refused. - In the Medina of Sousse in two shops I was openly offered sex, but the sellers were with friends and again laughed among themselves and showed gestures as if I was sucking a dick. I thought they were making fun of me and left. - On the third day of my vacation, two guys from the hotel staff knocked on my room and openly asked me if I want sex. They had come to me before to fix the air conditioner, so I knew who they were. I agreed, because they had already entered my room and were standing very-very close to me, so I immediately got excited. They were about 25 years old, their cocks were big and very hard, like a rock. It was rough and very depraved, they were both in an active role. There was a lot of sperm)) I gave them 10 dollars each, although they persistently asked for more. They came again another day and everything repeated itself. - I found a hamam in Sousse with a good rating on Google maps, its name is Anti-Stress Hammam, and went there in the afternoon. The owner himself met me and treated me very respectfully. He himself selected a master for me, a nice muscular guy. I suppose he immediately understood what kind of master I needed, although he did not say a word about it. At first, we went to the sauna, he sat behind me a little higher in a towel and squeezed me tightly with his legs. I felt how the head of his dick sometimes touched my back. I was just exploding with excitement. Then we went to another room, he took off my swimming trunks, massaged me a little and we went into a small shower stall. The boy put me on my knees, took off his towel and pressed my face to his dick. It was not very big, but very thick. Maybe it's some kind of chemistry between people, but as soon as I felt him in my mouth I felt a big surge of excitement and love. I really enjoyed caressing him, however, he did not finish and after 5 minutes we left the shower for the next room. It was a massage room, in which a naked man was already lying and a hairy Arab was giving him a massage. I lay down on the second table and my master began to give me a massage. He immediately removed my towel, so I was naked too. The massage itself was not professional, just relaxing. At some point he started to spread my ass cheeks and touch my hole. I turned around and saw that the masseur next to me was looking straight at my ass and had a boner in his towel. I didn't know how it would end and just relaxed. He massaged my hole, pressed it with his finger, but nothing more. After the massage, he gave me his Instagram and told me to write if I wanted more. But it was my last day in Tunisia, so there was no more. Overall, I liked Tunisia, especially the sea and the beaches, but I'm not sure I would want to go back. I didn't feel safe there. Suffice it to say that there were security guards with real machine guns on our beach.