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If you’re looking for availability, there are quite a few cute guys working at Avarin Massage’s two shops on Surawong, one of which is situated at corner of hotel driveway and the other one a shopfront away. I can attest that they do one of best foot and leg massages in Silom along with oil massage done in rooms with table and in-suite shower than can accommodate two. 🙂

What a stunner!

According to the rules of the board, here’s what qualifies for posting in Beer Bar: “Open to general topics not covered elsewhere including Current Events, Politics, Religion, Movies and other topics. Discuss the topic, not the policy or personality. Have fun and enjoy!” Knowledge of On-going terrorism is southern Thailand may indeed be useful to visitors to the country. But I understand that if you are no longer visiting the country it may not be relevant to you personally.

Thanks to Reader for the onerous research that he undertakes and his illuminating reports on many venues. Happy when he gets his just rewards!

I like that almost all are smiling. None of my type but their smiles are!

I guess pull of Bangkok is stronger than Siem Reap's

Woke up early to take Grab to DMK from Tarntawan , don't forget to add any promos you have available, front desk at the Tarntawan reminded me, I would've forgotten. AirAsia was 30 minutes delayed, no one seemed to mind, what a difference to the US, lol Grab was about 30usd from Siam Reap airport to hotel when I checked ahead of time, hotel offered pickup for 35usd, was def better to have someone waiting, I did advise them of the delay. Hotel recommended by @vinapu is 100% great, so far....I'd say is 5* service and comfortable rooms walking distance to everything, about $40usd a night all in with breakfast, king bed with balcony, I'd stay here again in a heartbeat, Crown Royal hotel. I was a bit sleepy by the time I got settled in , even though they gave me an early check in easily and maybe they thought I was bringing my make believe wife from the picture shown 🙄 I ordered a double smash burger with fries and a ginger ale for $7 usd delivered and was really tasty. Took a nap, watched depressing news about the Orange monster and headed out about 940pm. Went to B-Ball first, small bar very nice guys, I was only customer so a little awkward , stayed for one soda and moved around to Home Cocktail, too many females, then to Rendezvous, too empty, and then to Barcode, lots of females but a nice show and friendly staff. Nothing interesting on the apps, but plenty in the streets that are my type, however all with girlfriends/spouses After the shows at Barcode went walking around some more, most places close at 1am except Pub Street, too many Heteros for me, lol Went back to Home Cocktail and 2 guys that were in the show recognized me and invited me to sit with them.....one was one of the drags in the show, I told him I'm bottom and he tried to get me to go with one of the guys that was the dancer...saying he could massage me and had a big dick. Until i showed him some Colombians and Brazilians, they both almost fell to the floor. It's all relative I guess 😆 I would've taken a massage from him but by that time, I was too full and tired to do anything...plus there was no hard sell, marketing classes could come in handy here.....tomorrow is another day? Super cheap compared to Thailand for everything , but no hookups, maybe my fault for taking such a long nap 🤷‍♂️

Eva have got a promotion currently for travel Heathrow to Bangkok or Taipei. There is a 10% discount on their website for flights booked from now to the beginning of December. The flights themselves can be through to most of 2025. You need to apply the code EVA24 in the "Event Code" box on the first page of the booking process. The current prices are then updated transparently going forward. I have made my next booking..........

You obviously didn’t read the article.

Depends if Old daddy is there...

I strongly recommend EVA's direct LHR-BKK service. I've enjoyed over eighty trips and have never had cause for complaint.

LINE is a messenger app used throughout the world but is most popular in SE Asia. Every guy I’ve run into uses it as do many members here. Easy to join and free. Just about all massage shops use it. https://line.me/en/

From The Nation A once-neglected wetland area in Chiang Mai has been transformed into a stunning park, offering a tranquil escape for urbanites. The Chiang Mai Provincial Administration Organisation has successfully turned about 48 hectares of wasteland into a picturesque space featuring lush lawns, walking paths and cycling tracks. The park's centerpiece is a large, serene lake, offering breathtaking views of Doi Suthep. Work on the wetland area began in 2022 when provincial authorities sought to find a larger venue for the annual Chiang Mai flower festival, and since its opening on September 14, it has become hugely popular among health enthusiasts and families seeking to spend time outdoors. Continues with photos https://www.nationthailand.com/life/travel/40043119

And this is VERY relevant, because at the end of December 2023 into 17 days into January 2024 I was visiting this part of Thailand and when planning my trip with my 2 tour guides that I found via Twitter (1 Muslim {gay} and 1 Buddhist {bi-sex}), I was able to communicate to them my desire to NOT visit or venture into the 3 dangerous southern provinces (Pattani, Yala and Narathiwat) that were/are experiencing an insurgency. In fact, my Muslim tour guide was from Yala and he completely understood that he could not take me into the Yala province even before I asked him. https://th.usembassy.gov/security-message-for-u-s-citizens-security-in-the-deep-south-of-thailand/

Recent video on shop’s LINE feed: video_533905594319896629-7DVAkuJh.mp4

My honest thoughts on where she went wrong was. 1 she didn't answer questions showing that she have full knowledge of what the problems were and what her solution would be. 2 she seemed to fear questions from the public and relied on her go to answer of coming from a middle class family. 3 she didn't give enough hard-hitting interviews to sharpen herself when asked tough questions. 4 she depended too much on celebrities. 5 she relied too heavily on the race card to the point that minorities pulled away. 6 she used her sex and race as a weapon and used it to attack more than attract. 7 when giving a chance to sell the public on her, all she did was talk about Trump when everybody already made up their minds about Trump. 8 she didn't project strength when giving an opportunity to send a message to world leaders. 9 she picked the wrong running mate. 10 she depended too much on teleprompters.

India has been on my bucket list for a long time, but never had the chance, or good flights to do so. While looking for award business flights to BKK/Indonesia/Manila and seeing limited to zero availability for anything decent, I thought, let me check India 🤔 I found Bos-Ist-Dxb-Ccu... Turkish connection to Emirates and Emirates, for 88K United miles- JACKPOT!! Everything else I found from USA (almost any city) to Bkk was 200k+ miles....up to 500k, ridiculous. So that was the start of the planning stage that has lead to me booking a 8 week away from home (6 weeks in Asia) trip. Turkish is one of my favorite airlines and was my 1st time on Emirates..... because of a typhoon in Calcutta, they airport was closed and Emirates delayed their flight by an additional 8 hrs, so 12 hrs in Dubai. So they have me a chauffeured BMW to/from airport and a Marriott Marquis Dubai room, to which the front office manager upgraded me to a suite, because she was from Jakarta and was impressed/happy that I was a lover of Indonesians (I'm sure she knew the men, lol) I never had plans of visiting Dubai, but this 12 hr layover has given me 2nd thoughts....so much action on the apps, but I was too tired to do anything more than look/chat. Kolkata is a good arrival airport I guess, very easy and not CRAZY like Delhi or Bombay as I was told, plus less than a 2 hr flight to BK afterwards. I'd been talking to several guys on X, Blued, Grindr before my arrival to find out some info....not many profiles pics and was a pain in the ass to filter out flakes. I stayed in contact with a guy that spoke English well and wasn't a money boy that likes "old" guys....wasn't very flattering, but 40's-50's was his definition of old, lol....so a compliment too???? 1st night went really well, we had very hot sex...but it became apparent that he wasn't a drinker, anyone that knows me , knows I like to have a few drinks, lol I stayed at the Lalit Great Eastern Hotel and is VERY gay friendly...I later found out that they have drag queen story book hour and my 2nd night a gay community Halloween party, which was so much fun, My Indian friends said I'd be popular because I'm a white foreigner, which I assumed because it's happened in so many places. I wasn't prepared to what extent here....I felt like I was a movie star, Tom Cruise or Harrison Ford, age didn't matter...was amazing yet weird... I was the exotic guy in the bar, lol So, the non-drinker guy tried to keep up with me, which didn't end well for either of us...him vomiting in the bushes, sleeping on the bathroom floor and me in bed alone typing this trip report 😂 I met a guy, a little thicker (chunky) than I like, but very manly and my type otherwise.....we have plans for tomorrow, will see how it goes. These pics are from the party and bushes, to give you an idea how it was....I've been planning my March trips, waiting to see how I liked India, I will include other cities in the itinerary in the south of India, as they aren't as hairy as the north, I'm told.

Diamond Club, in Pattaya, is intended for woman looking for guys but, from a reliable source, the guys are more than willing to sit, drink and maybe be offed by gays. Diamond Club is just off of Third Road near the intersection of Pattaya Tai; also at the end of the Soi Buakow market area.

Just noticed this so I guess it’s new.

I know it's not nice of me to say, but somebody's granddaughter is dressed like a Vegas hooker.

Where's Don Jr's "fiance", Memaw Guilfoyle? Is that Lurch standing behind Donold?

The students are probably emboldened by their new president to act out their prejudices and hate. Musk will need to look after his trans daughter who is planning to leave the states because she is fearful after T was elected.

Makes my 12 look pathetic!

Harris had no chance. She is a classic example of the wrong person at the wrong time and in the wrong place. "Wrong person" - no experience, no charisma, no past results to convince of future results. There is no trust in her personally, and so she had to attract all these celebrities - "look, they trust me." "Wrong time" - even if she was a strong politician, she did not have time to convince people: she was nominated too late. Her nomination should have started 2 years ago and done it confidently, consistently and calmly. "Wrong place" - the current administration has nothing to brag about. Biden's administration did not bring positive results and Harris did not have the opportunity to rely on them "Look what I have already done. And I will do even more if you elect me." Well, and a big mistake was constantly mentioning Trump - every time she said his name, she advertised him. It doesn't matter that she added "fascist" and something else, people don't remember that, people remember the name.

Compliments to the TNT (Tim Newton Today) YouTube channel, as they posted yesterday a NEW (in English) .pdf document published by the official Thai Revenue Department about the new tax situation effective 01-Jan-2024. I found it VERY helpful and it is about time that the Revenue Department start to publish information in English to help calm down the hornet's nest that has developed by their silence with the void being filled by foreign "tax specialists"; expat clubs, gossips, YouTube feeds, etcetra. https://www.rd.go.th/fileadmin/user_upload/lorkhor/newspr/2024/FOREIGNERS_PAY_TAX2024.pdf

Fully my type 😍 except the ones with big tattoos

Furama Silom,great location, unfortunately you will be waiting a lot for the 2 lifts /elevator 🛗 Furama Sathorn,old rooms reminds me of Tartawan There is a hotel just around the corner from Heaven Sauna in that laneway ,is it ZEN ? I can't remember I walked past it ,it looked ok

I would agree with that especially when she turns on her own

After watching that short introduction video - I say well worth the trip out there to Phoenix 🤪 hmmm, inquiring minds want to know which guy was the lucky one to receive a massage from you @reader 😘

Decided to stay, and fly home from here.

In Rio, How many hotels use the name Copacabana, in NYC use Times Sq or New Yorker, In Orlando use Lake Buena Vista or Disney Main Gate or whatever....Surawong is the name of the street....don't think it's anything more than that 🤷‍♂️ No, they were customers drinking, but friendly.

Have the judgy haters never actually seen how you operate?

I think the Village Idiot, aka Allan Lichtman and his magical keys should get together with a few of this forum's loudmouth no-nothing posters and have a Group Cry. Ann Selzer can join you. Hopefully one of you will tell Lichtman that it's time for a toupee adjustment. TRUMP2024 MAGA

I wandered down soi 6 tonight, on my way to supper, past The One, which is of no interest to a twink lover like me, then past all the various massage shops, 9 Teen, Paradise etc. It may be me, but I was very underwhelmed by the standard of the boys, hardly one I fancied. They also have poor lighting, which does not help!

They couldn’t have gotten far.

The guy or his dick?

Thanks @reader for sharing and venturing out! Phoenix is definitely one of those places that cater to local and have good reputation for ‘complete work’. The store has good reputation among locals. 1600B is probably a tad cheaper than typical and can confirm this is promotion that they advertise on Line. another thing to highlight about this store is that they do not run on freelance model. All the photos are taken by the store, the guys do not appear on multiple shops and they just recently expanded! All good signs of a growing and reputable shop.

No need to explain. You fell in love like all of us returning time after time

I have read so many of these reviews (maybe 100+) and I really only try to figure out few things. I am frankly amused by how they are written as some form of erotica, but I am paying them for practical information and less for arousal reason. hope this is helpful If this is a S, SS or H shop (you can tell by the tips they give out at the end). S is 1000, SS is 1500-2000 and H is 2000-2500. Expected tips (per above) - they are mostly the same. If the boy looks as good as the photo (sometimes they say its better, the same or up to 15% less than the photo) State of the store (description/suggestion if its clean, has separate washroom) Fun factor: description like “hold me like a boyfriend”, “LGBTQ”, “kissing” Not so fun factor: “real man work, no kissing, does not burn the hole, does help with the hand” - suggest limited scope of work Procedures and norm: Many SS shops do have to ask the client if they want extra service or not. The code is “B2B” (higher tier service) , or “help with the hand” (Soft job) or no extra. If there is no extra, a soft shop masseur wont even touch the good!

Just wondering any members that live full time (retired) in Thailand ? For those of you who live in Pattaya or Bangkok what do you do during the day ?🕺💃🕺🕺 I was contemplating buying a minimum 1 bedroom in Pattaya but I would get bored there full time at this stage of my life 🏢🏥 I couldn't see myself in a studio I did look last time and I would think I would be like to close to Jomtien complex although crossing that road everyday to the View talay's would be a headache Could you live full time in Pattaya or Bangkok alone at this stage of your life? I guess if you had a boyfriend👦♂️ to live with it may be different and someone to be with , otherwise it would be bars at night Pattaya probably would be easier to make expat friends than Bangkok I couldn't see myself going to bars every night nor picking up boys👬 every night At this stage I'm holding off buying a Condo and will keep working full time I have looked at a few condos ,The Base ,Arcadia Beach, View talay etc but all seem too small

Those are part of the new recent condo construction projects where the model is to emulate the postage stamp sized condos of Hong Kong. You need to look at the condo buildings that were built in the late 1980s and 1990s where they are large - like I mentioned earlier - like any of the many View Talay projects or the Grand Condotel, or Jomtien Condotel - as most of them are right on the gay Dongtan beach with amazing views of the beach, sea, and Koh Larn --> with sunsets to die for.

I sincerely hope you are not serious, Zombie! I have a nephew who is trans, and he is suffering severe anxiety.

While I am not responding to the OP as I'm convinced he's just a paid poster, I will say this. If you don't want to live in a box condo with loud idiots above, below and either side of you, there are other options. And don't think I mean holiday makers. You might get a hard of hearing "nearly dead" who has to have his TV on double volume so he can hear it. Look at it like this. View Talay 2 Condo, opposite Jomtien Complex, you can get a studio for 12,000 - 14,000 baht pcm. An expensive 34 sqm box. Alternatively, just head away from there a little. You can get a 2 or 3 bedroom house from 15,000 baht. Furnished. No, you won't have a pool. And prices vary depending on if you want a villa, townhouse, and most importantly location. If you want a pool, 28,000 pcm to 35000 for a 2 bed villa, at least around the Khao Talo area. You can get a motorbike taxi from there, to Jomtien Complex for 50 baht. Car taxi for under 100 baht. There are many options, and as someone who has lived in condos in Jomtien, and then left, I can tell you that you will likely be far happier living away from the insanity.

Best hotel with big gym I stayed in was Quarter Saladang,big gym like a normal commercial gym with free towels and water and nice pool

I would agree that if you are selecting a guy based solely on photo, you run an equal risk of being pleasantly or unpleasantly surprised. Consequently I’d generally advise members to visit the shops in person and see who’s hanging around. Places like Phetboy, 15M and K-Man (all with easy walking distance of less than 5 minutes from BTS stop) will have some you can see in person before deciding. That both of us had disappointing experience on a single night should not keep you from exploring the shops in the area. In our pursuits there are no guarantees of satisfaction but I assure you that there are equal rewards to be enjoyed.

@Tantric You can do what I did back in August 2022. I already knew the area that I wanted to live in (Jomtien Dongtan beach condo with seaview), so I visited both AirBnB and Booking.com and I used their map view function where I zoomed onto the buildings that I already knew existed - like the View Talays (5 and also 3) and the Grand Condotel. Since I wanted to have a trial run of the eventual building that I would call home - I chose the View Talay closest to the Jomtien Complex and long and behold there was a studio apartment on the 10th floor with a stunning sunset view of the Gulf of Thailand and with Koh Larn island. I booked it for the entire month of September 2022. This strategy gave me: an opportunity to see if I would like the said View Talay building, security team, maintenance team, grounds, facilities, etcetra. allowed me to meet and view with the various real estate offices that are on the ground floor where you can talk to the various real estate agents about your needs. --> unfortunately, most of these in-building on-the-ground real estate agents DO NOT HAVE web pages so there isn't much you can do if you are outside of Thailand and/or outside of the Pattaya area - as you need to be physically present to see what stock they have for rent and what stock is going to be available soon. an opportunity to know the owner of my 10th floor AirBnB (Tony) - as he is also in the local real estate business and is a wealth of information. --> here is the link to Tony's information that I have already posted in this forum: In the end, I enjoyed so much this View Talay building and the entire management team (security, maintenance, Jurissic) that I decided to stay and with the local real estate lady, Khun Fon who owns the ground floor real estate office = P.Pattaya Property https://www.facebook.com/PariyakronLarsen/ So, you can ask either Khun Fon or Tony to sent you any listings that they might have that are for short term - like for the 2 months that you are looking for. I am good friends with my 2 cleaning ladies and I see them all over the different View Talay buildings and they told me that they are always cleaning for short term rentals - so there is a BIG short term rental market - but unfortunately, it seems to be that it can only be found by visiting any of these large condo buildings in any of the on the ground floor small mom-and-pop real estate agents.

Yes I do - already since 2 years and 2 months I get up at the crack of dawn and go to the gym - my training starts at 7:50am - I finish the gym between 9:55am and 10:10am. Then I go eat breakfast at Tinnies (the Australian place with the BEST bacon in all of Pattaya - in my opinion). Then depending on the day, I grab a Bolt from Jomtien into almost North Pattaya where I go for my ED Shockwave treatment at 11:30am and that lasts for around 35 to 40 minutes - then I take a motorbike taxi to the TRT (testosterone replacement therapy) clinic - near Boyztown. That lasts for about 10 to 15 minutes if it is not a day when they need to draw blood for the monthly stats. Then the baht bus back to Jomtien, run local errands - like to FoodMart and/or 7-Eleven or to go see my viagra/cialis lady to stock up the supply. Then home for a 2 hour nap. Then around 5pm or 6pm one of my 4 hands massage coordinators brings himself and another guy to massage me and have some fun. Then clean up, myself, the bed, shower area and if one of them wants to go eat we usually go outside of the Jomtien Complex to grab a bite - it is usually Thai food. Then head into the Jomtien Complex for a drink and by 9pm or 10pm I am craving my bed to catch up on some internet and/or watch some YouTube and then fall asleep. Rinse and repeat and before you know it the week has finished. On non gym days (there are 3) then my schedule is more free and I walk on the beach, or go to Koh Larn, or go into Central Pattaya to one of the malls, go see a movie - catch up with friends, etcetra You don't need to cross that busy road (Thappraya) - you can live in one of the many beach condos that are all within walking distance of the Jomtien Supertown Complex and the gay Dongtan beach. They are: View Talay 7 Jomtien Complex Condotel Grand Condotel View Talay 5 (there are 2) Jomtien Plaza Condotel Of course you will pay more because the above condos are on or very near to the beach. On the other side of the busy Thappraya road - there is View Talay 2 (2 buildings) and also View Talay 1 (2 buildings) that are much cheaper than the above listed on-the-beach condo list. Yes - easily. Just realize to put into your budget 2 important factors: Boy tax - everytime you bring one to your room or do them in a massage and/or short time room there is a fee - these can become very expensive - so make sure that you have a way to finance all of this or you might need to join the PFC, NEW Thai government taxation (effective from 01-Jan-2024) on money that you bring into Thailand (i.e., remittances) as Assessable Income --> my Boy tax is already too high so when the government decided to get greedy - as I am already spending a considerable amount of my discretionary income in the local Thai economy - I decided that from 2025 forward I will only live in Thailand for less than 180 days for each alternating year - thus giving the money that I would have spent in Thailand to other nearby countries (The Philippines and Vietnam). I do not agree with this statement. It is easier to make expat friends with these 2 types of expats: those here on vacation, those who live here seasonally. I found that the expats that live here full time are not easy to make friends with and in fact I have given up on this endeavor - and I instead concentrate making Thai friends. Even my 1 local expat friend, JD100, is leaving Thailand due to this difficulty to make friends with the full time expats that live here. There seems to be some kind of acid in the local water - as I cannot explain it but better to leave the hornets nest alone. Yes I agree for 2 primary reasons: 1.) it can become too expensive, 2.) if you go into the Jomtien Complex too often the excitement wears off when the emphasis of 98% of the bar owners is that you as the farang = "farang sit and farang drink" - as I do not like to sit in a chair all night and I do not like to drink it becomes VERY lethargic and boring and unhealthy. There is no excitement and there is no decent place where you can stand up and expend some energy - like a great place to dance with good music. So, one of the nighttime alternatives can be to walk over to the gay volleyball on Dongtan beach near the Pattaya waterpark and Sea Rescue. When I do it is a fun night because although I cannot play (I am not good enough) I can jump up and down and cheerlead the guys on and run after the stray balls to avoid that they get wet in the shoreline waves. It is a social event where you walk around and not only sit on your ass all night - so it is not lethargic as a night out in the Jomtien Complex can be. This is incorrect. All of the View Talays were built before this current fad to copy HongKong style small cramped dwellings - so I find the View Talays to be rather large. Mine is 98 sqm with 2 sea facing balconies - more than enough for 1 person. I have looked at many of the newer constructed beach condos and they are mostly all very small and VERY expensive. My goal is to be in walking distance of the Jomtien Complex - so most of the newer constructed cramped buildings are too far away and would require that you either buy a motorbike and have to worry about having an accident or create a BIG dependency on BOLT for transportation purposes.

Idea - if you were living in Pattaya, wouldn't you keep yourself occupied by running your bar that you are going to open?

Yes, but other shops don't keep sending xxx videos of a couple of their guys fucking!