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Prompted by a video of their staff posted on their LINE feed, I satisfied a whim and paid a late afternoon visit to Phoenix Massage. My route took me from the MRT blue line station at Samyan to Lat Phrao where I connected to the MRT yellow line monorail. Although the signage is fairly good (follow Exit 4), it took me up and down escalators, up elevator, across parking garage on a 10-minute journey. Following shop’s advice, I got off at Lat Phrao 83 stop and walked about 10 minutes to soi 110. That’s where the directions on Google map went haywire. According to map I should be looking to turn left onto second sub soi. But there wasn’t one. After walking back and forth, I messaged shop and they sent me same map link. Lost, I figure what are my chances of finding anyone who speaks English this far out. As it turned out, everyone I asked (3 people) spoke it very well! The first was a couple outside their house. They directed me to the opposite side of street and told me to take next soi, I did but quickly arrived at intersection. Spotted two women sitting outside a convenience store. Before I could pull out my phone, one said “can I help you? In perfect English. She turned out to have worked 30 years in LA. She immediately asked me what I thought of election and I told her I was sorry Harris lost. “So am I,” replied Tammy, who then summoned two nieces who were learning English to come and demonstrate their new skills. After we chatted a few more minutes, she asked “what brings you here?” I showed her the address and she pointed down the soi. “It should be a little after my house on the right side,” she said. I thanked them and made my goodbyes. Sure enough, a garage like structure bearing the shop name soon appeared. I opened the door and the manager handed me a bottle of chilled water. I showed him the video and guy who captured my interest. “Oh, he’s here now,” he said, motioning to a one playing pool with a few others. While the boy went to collect his the massage basket, I inquired about the price and was informed there was a promotion of 1600 baht that was inclusive of tip. I was a bit apprehensive but was exhausted and had come a long way to cure my curiosity and agreed. The room was small but had AC, table and shower. The guy quickly arrived, stripped down and joined me in shower. He made sure I was carefully soaped up and I returned the favor. As we towel off, I used sign language to let him know I didn’t want any oil (he was first one so far that didn’t speak English), His technique was ok and he straddled me in the way I can resist advancing the schedule. When I rolled over, things progressed quickly but still found 10 minutes or so to massage him. He checked all the boxes of what would qualify as a full service massage in most readers’ book. He was just attentive in the post massage shower. This was a new experience that took the minimum tip process a step beyond, and I came away liking it. At no time did the guy ask more for any service. He was pleasant and accommodating throughout. For the record, he was from Isaan. As I left the shop, the manager called my attention to four boys at pool table who paused and smiled. I could have have taken any of them. As I walked back towards the station, I mused that 1600 might be a bit steep of locals but I didn’t give it much thought because I believe I received fair value. If I knew the lay of the land the total travel time would have been no more than 1:10. Cost each way 75 baht, I wouldn’t advise this undertaking if you have mobility issues. But it suited me because it reinforced my confidence in getting around the sprawling city with its excellent public transportation options. Should you decide to go, one final tip. As soon as you turn on to Lat Phrao 110, abandon phone map and turn immediately hard right and take your first left. Shop will be on your left a few minutes walk down.

No need to explain. You fell in love like all of us returning time after time

Sorry, should have said, my Vietnamese boy agreed 2,000, 'same as last time'. I gave him extra 500, as he came loads! 3some, 2,500 each.

Just a few more thoughts on my current trip. Apologies for any repetition. I was in touch with a Vietnamese twink that I met last time, who now works in Goodboys. He was keen that I pick him up from the bar, no doubt to improve his standing with the bar. So I complied. It was easy, fair no of boys, in briefs, twinkish, bar just as I remembered it, really a bit small. So bought drinks, 400, off fee 500, not bad I thought. Good sex! Yesterday repeat with his friend, good time again. I said come direct to hotel, not paying drink and off fee again! Meridien no problems. Popped in to Freshboys, last night, good selection, mainly twinks, white briefs. Pretty full, show standard, but shower scene involved energetic sucking! Big cock show impressive, and performers encouraged to mingle, and invitation to feel and suck! However condoms on, so not interested. Drink 400.

The guy or his dick?

Thanks @reader for sharing and venturing out! Phoenix is definitely one of those places that cater to local and have good reputation for ‘complete work’. The store has good reputation among locals. 1600B is probably a tad cheaper than typical and can confirm this is promotion that they advertise on Line. another thing to highlight about this store is that they do not run on freelance model. All the photos are taken by the store, the guys do not appear on multiple shops and they just recently expanded! All good signs of a growing and reputable shop.

@phoenix25 They moved from Inthamara 25 in SK area about 2 weeks ago.

And here you had us believing you were bored 🧐

If the baht declines wan't that be popular rather than unpopular with foreign tourists?

Just noticed this so I guess it’s new.

I am a Centrist, I think your list is fair to a certain extent. Let me add a few, from my viewpoint of course. Winners: Hopefully the US economy since I do believe that is why most people voted for Trump. Governor Newson of California, Governor Braesher of Kentucky, and others, who can now continue with their plans run for President in 2028, that had been sidetracked with Biden dropping out. Democracy, the people spoke and surprised us all AGAIN. WE the People is to never be underestimated or taken for granted. Losers: Pelosi, Clooney, Obama and all the other Elite Democrats that stabbed Biden in the back in favor of Harris. Liz Cheney, I hope to never hear from her on anything again. As for the January 6th preachers, The MAJORITY of Americans have moved on. That horse is dead, stop beating it , it just won't work. This Election showed that. I would like to refer some people to the old Children's Book Henny Penny. The Sky is NOT falling and our democracy is not failing.

Please see the below gayguides forum post where I discuss how to join these Thai massage review forums:

from Pattaya Mail By Barry Kenyon Donald Trump may not be an expert on Thai affairs, even mispronouncing the country as Thighland four years ago. But most economists believe his second-term win is more of a plus for Thailand than a Harris victory would have been. The secret lies in Trump’s monumental dislike of China and his threat to increase dramatically tariffs – up to 60 percent and beyond – to deter Chinese exports to the United States. As commerce minister Pichai Naripthaphan has noted, there’s likely to be a rush of Chinese investment to build factories in Thailand to create a manufacturing hub for exports to the United States. That is already a trend in the Eastern Economic Corridor for automobile production, electronics and AI data centers. The Thai premier, Paetongtarn Shinawatra, was amongst the first tranche of world leaders to congratulate the Trump-Vance ticket. The Board of Investment has already announced a 42 percent jump in the value of investment proposals for 2024 compared with the previous year. With rising US Treasury yields rising already, the baht is likely to decline by one or two cents. Although that will be unpopular with international tourists to Thailand, a weaker baht makes Thai exports to the US and the world cheaper. There are, of course, threats to this positive scenario under Trump. For example, if Thailand moves closer to China in foreign policy Trump may well raise US tariffs on imports from here. He will certainly dislike Thailand’s flirtation with BRICS, an international economic framework led by Russia and China, which the new president will see as an attack on the US dollar. Moreover, Thailand is in dispute with China over the dumping of cheap consumer goods here which is threatening domestic production. However, Thailand has shown itself adroit over many decades in maintaining a measure of international independence on the world stage. Dealing with the unpredictable Trump and his America First agenda will be a major task of the current Pheu Thai administration. Thailand has the second biggest economy in ASEAN but is experiencing sluggish growth. Receiving as many international tourists as possible and encouraging exports are the two major preoccupations as 2024 splutters to a close.

I can—and frequently do—remember every guy who does, going back decades. My all time best fantasies.

I tell close friends, half are fwb and the other half straight mates. The gay ones don't care and the straight ones say they would do the same if they could. I'm now single after many years and have enjoyed that status around the world the last couple of years. The young guys, the sauna orgys, the dancing all night: i enjoy the same. We enjoy it, were not coercing anybody and everyone walks away satified (mostly!). The old sterotype of gays being past thier prime by 30 is long gone. I seem to get more attention the older i get. Daddies got popular at the right time for me, and you Olddaddy! I say if your not hurting anyone and your treating people with respect, go for your life.

@Olddaddy I agree. The excitement of the chase is sometimes more fun than the realization of the time in bed. And if you are VERY lucky the chase + time-in-bed = optimal satisfaction. Also, if you live here - it can get boring very quickly to always return to the same places to see and hear the laments of the same people 🤮 Especially when you know that they are lying to your face trying to convince you that their situation is desperate ( they forget that they already told you a different story last week that this time is a unique and different desperation story last week ). 🤥🤥🤥 They just love Pinocchio in Thailand.

After reading about the current dismal state of affairs in Phuket, I have wisely decided to change my upcoming trip to Pattaya/BKK...although I will have to explain why am I going back to BKK so soon (less than 2 months) after my last trip 🤣

My last trip in Oct. ST at Freshboy and Goodboy were 2500bt.

@Verchiele Wow your post and analysis are EXCELLENT. As you already know, I also subscribe to these same Thai massage review forums. I would add a couple of additional infos that are sometimes discussed or offered: - massage shop discounts, special offerings, events, or coupons - gossips about some of the masseurs or shops - interaction and camaderie between the various top 10 forum members - similar to what goes on in our gayguides forum here - the moderators of these Thai forums are very active in the curation and participation of the chats and information that is shared (LINE Notes section, related Twitter (X) feeds, "official" reviews of a specfic shop and/or masseur), whereas in our gayguide forum the owner/moderator is rarely visible and rarely does any curation to enhance our forum structure and/or functionality. I think that this is because our gayguide forum is for free (no profit incentive) whereas, these Thai forums require a paid subscription (thus providing a profit incentive).

Now with yellow monorail is kind of easy

I have read so many of these reviews (maybe 100+) and I really only try to figure out few things. I am frankly amused by how they are written as some form of erotica, but I am paying them for practical information and less for arousal reason. hope this is helpful If this is a S, SS or H shop (you can tell by the tips they give out at the end). S is 1000, SS is 1500-2000 and H is 2000-2500. Expected tips (per above) - they are mostly the same. If the boy looks as good as the photo (sometimes they say its better, the same or up to 15% less than the photo) State of the store (description/suggestion if its clean, has separate washroom) Fun factor: description like “hold me like a boyfriend”, “LGBTQ”, “kissing” Not so fun factor: “real man work, no kissing, does not burn the hole, does help with the hand” - suggest limited scope of work Procedures and norm: Many SS shops do have to ask the client if they want extra service or not. The code is “B2B” (higher tier service) , or “help with the hand” (Soft job) or no extra. If there is no extra, a soft shop masseur wont even touch the good!

Thanks for all the suggestions 🤭 I have my excuse, luckily I broadcasted the shitty weather i experienced in Pattaya last month, so this is now my make up trip lol

You accidentally boarded the wrong flight You are afraid of Tsunamis It is still too rainy in Phuket You must attend a workshop in Bangkok The flight to Bangkok was cheaper The flight was overbooked and the next available flight was to Bangkok A friend is living in Bangkok and you had to bring him cheese

Will Trump "move on" from his hatred of the J6 commission and Liz Cheney? Will Trump destroy his enemy list and "move on"?

One disaster on a Thailand trip; 2008. My passport, my cash, my cards, my car keys...all stolen. At Heathrow Airport. I didn't even make it to the plane. Not a happy day.....but a mostly happy ending, in that most of my stuff somehow , through a variety of means, apart from about £1500 cash got back to me. And ten days later, I was in Bangkok. By the way, EVA were very helpful. The LHR police weren't.

I think things were different then. I go back further, to the 1980s. I picked up a boy in a bar on Copacabana, who was gorgeous, twink, blond, sexy. Admittedly, i was younger then, mid 30s, but would not have expected to find a much younger guy, just like that. For the next few evenings, I was working during the day, had great sex, meals, trips to Sauna Leblon, where people fucked in rows, etc. Pre HIV, so really great time. The idea of hiring didn't come up. Just both having fun.

All these places looks very straight...I rather go to a bar where I am welcome than to go to these straight host bar and be ignored or worse, denied entry 😅

From Travel and Leisure / TAT The Tourism Authority of Thailand (TAT) is delighted to announce that Thailand has been honoured as Travel + Leisure’s 2025 Destination of the Year. Renowned for its captivating culture, vibrant culinary landscape, and breathtaking natural beauty, Thailand stands out as a premier destination for global travellers in the coming year. This recognition joins numerous awards and accolades Thailand has garnered over the years, celebrating the nation’s appeal and commitment to offering an exceptional travel experience. TAT New York Office Director, Chompu Marusachot, said “We’re thrilled to see Thailand’s rich cultural heritage, commitment to sustainability, dynamic culinary scene, and exceptional wellness offerings acknowledged by Travel + Leisure as their Destination of the Year for 2025. Such recognition from a respected travel publication reinforces Thailand’s timeless charm and renowned hospitality that resonates with visitors worldwide.” She added “We look forward to welcoming more travellers to experience Thailand’s unique allure through five must-do experiences: Must Taste (the flavours of Thailand), Must Try (local activities), Must Buy (authentic products), Must Seek (hidden gems and once-in-a-lifetime moments), and Must See (celebrated culture and festivals).” Link to Travel and Leisure article https://www.travelandleisure.com/thailand-destination-of-the-year-2025-8726182

Everyone has setbacks. All you can do is stay involved and Live your Life.

The bloke on the right reminds me of an old boss of mine, called Phil.

Ah, I understand. I may have to make the trip out there on my next trip then!

Being British, I understood the sarcasm, or perhaps irony! When my law firm merged with an American firm, we had to learn a new language! How right you are about Brexit

You live in some parallel reality. Democrats must admit - the elections are lost, lost disastrously. Democrats need to open their eyes, flooded with lies from pro-democracy media, and strictly ask their party leaders - why did you allow this? Why did your egoism outweigh the interests of the party and the country? Why did you betray us?

I stayed there 5 days last month Couldn't hear any noise and I had the balcony facing over the front

Pattaya already has a Ripley's....🤔 Here he is being helpful and then you threaten him 😳 I had an imaginary friend before.... out of sight, out of mind.

"it's a new bar, Mr O's kitchen or something like that. I always had a good time with him, so I went in to buy him a beer 200 baht. " O used to be my regular guy in Bangkok. We met when he was working at Nature Boy. He is one of the sweetest guys you'll ever meet. His huge fat weapon is a bonus. I get hard just thinking of the wonderful sex we had every day at the Rose Hotel. Then one trip he told me that because he had been promoted to the manager of Nature Boy, he could no longer go with customers. I was devastated. I also suspect he might have found a farang sponsor. I dropped by his restaurant on my last visit but I couldn't see him there. I wanted to buy him a drink for old times sake. I'll visit him on my next trip to Bangkok. The owner of Nature Boy (and the now -closed Golden Cock) is a farang. He sometimes turns up in Bangkok with his wife and they party with the boys and customers in the bar. I've had some great times there. They often take boys away for holidays and one can only imagine the fun they all have together! Nature Boy couldn't possibly have made any money, as I was usually the only customer, but I guess the owner kept it as a hobby.

I believe Floridarob’s description of his first massage in Saphan Kwai touches on developments I began to notice this trip. I first started patronizing these shops on my first post-Covid trip. I was immediately impressed generally with both the abundance of guys available and their performance. Three years on, I’m beginning to see a few cracks. Maintaining some sense of quality control becomes increasingly challenging as the numbers expand as they have. Also a factor is that a good portion of the guys have been around for 2-3 years and are becoming becoming a bit jaded as they circulate among various shops as free agents. Bigger is not necessarily better if value is eroded in the process.

Idea - if you were living in Pattaya, wouldn't you keep yourself occupied by running your bar that you are going to open?

Mark certainly has trademark Isaan looks that I much admire.

26-10-2024 Day 2 - I woke up around 11am in the morning and went to terminal 21 . Meanwhile Mr.Tree from helios messaging me whats u r plan today? R u coming for massage ? iI asked him any good guys apart from u to explore. He replied with pic his name is also Mr.Tree with shirtless pic... I said ok as he looks good and asked how much for ST. He replied with 2000 baht i didn't negotiate because i felt its reasonable, what to do rest of the day? so i asked him I need to see him 1st and went around 7pm to helios as he waiting outside. He looks like super hero and he is very handsome. I decided to take him to Jomtien complex to see the massage shops and atmosphere ( i seen only in youtube many times and never seen it real) . We both went to jomtien complex walked around to be frank i didn't like anyone all are twinks and not my cup of tea at all. just opposite to soda massage we both sat and he drank some beer and i drank coke as usual. I felt so shy that all are calling me for massage and Mr.T helped me alot in controlling my nerves. Meanwhile old Mr.T that I met yesterday messaging me can i come with you guys for Boyzboyzboyz show at 10.30pm and i felt bad for him and told to come. I told old Mr.T what i am going to do today - 1st jomtien complex -- eating at Indian restaurant-- then at boyzboyzboyz show at 10.30pm then finally will take new Mr.T to my hotel room. Boyzboyzboyz show Drink cost -- 350 baht rest I didn't ask because I already decided to take new Mr.T to my hotel room so I didn't ask boy drink cost( on display it mentioned boy drink cost 300) and boy cost off fee too. To be frank I didn't like the show because less nudity and so much crowded along with pillars obstructing the view and none of the boys are handsome than my new Mr.T for sure ( they are around 20-25 guys on stage) their acts are less and for every 2 acts done they come to us for tips everytime i gave 100 baht for 3 times ( they are not leaving us without taking tips from me but none are demanded or rude). finally around 11.50 i decided to pack up from this shit show. I gave old Mr.T his drink cost (300baht) and said bye to him and gave 200baht extra( because of him i am exploring gogo bars and he introduced new Mr.T as well) as I respect him and his time to spent with me not just for fun part. I know i can't do this alone because i feel so shy in public and its not quite common in INDIA. Old Mr.T is like a hunk and his age 32 with tattoos on chest and back, without six pack and natural built with little workout body. New Mr.T is with pure fair complexion and cute face with soft body and his age 25 without any tattoo without six pack and natural built with little biceps workout only. Me and new Mr.T went to my hotel room started hugging kissing alot and took proper shower together to clean ourselves and he started sucking my cock and i told be your self no need to suck mine at start. we did passionate kissing again we both licked full bodies particularly i licked him completely and wet his entire body with my saliva including his asshole on the bed after shower. We did 69 and much more, after 1hr 30min we did mutual mastrubation . I paid him 2300baht and he felt happy and left. I want to go to Xboys pattaya show on tomorrow with those 2 T's again and will find a new guy as i fixed option 2 guy on the day 1 itself so probably i pick him if he works tomorrow. Why am i choosing Xboys again - 1. their show is unique and no dramas always nude and straight to the point from 10pm exactly show starts till 12am?) 2. They never asked anyone about tips but i gave 100 baht while top fucking bottom on my lap - hahaha 3. ambience is calm not much crowded people coming drinking for 15-20min and going. 4. Shower sex , real fucking sex in different positions and bottom lying on every customer while top fucking him.. i felt both guys butts -hahah and many more like golf play with cocks , cock lifting weights from 50-100kgs from 3 different persons and many more acts. 5. the show operating guy is very good friendly person ( he asked me to take him to the hotel for free - i laughed at him and said no.. he is aged but i bought him a drink) Till now i met old Mr.T then xboys 1 guy then today new Mr.T. if i rank the guys based on my likes and fun part in bed both Mr.T's are equally good and i can't choose one, then little less xboys bar guy ( he is also good but compared to both Mr.T's 1% less) I finally got to know that Both Mr.T's and me all r equal height 170cm and equal weight 75kg with equal taste loves romance alot and all are versa tops. This is 2nd day guys and thanks for messages too. will keep posting tomorrow night the result of day 3.

The place not mentioned often on this forum - but I've come back recently from two weeks in Buenos Aires. I want to come back already. I had a blast. This is my fourth time in Argentina, but my last visit was 9 or 10 years ago. I'd been to all the best places of this amazing country before, so this time I wanted just to have a chill city vacation in Buenos Aires, a city that I always considered one of the best in the world, and certainly the best in Latin America (for me). It's very different from the rest of Latin America, certainly different from Brazil. It does not feel Latin American, it feels more like a ramshackle Mediterranean European city instead - like Marseille or Genoa. It has that European cultured vibe, museums, theaters, leafy streets, public spaces, simply excellent food, and a great bar scene. It does not have that fire of Brazilian parties, no - it's more reserved and not that in-your-face fun, it's like a more refined sister of a loud brash half-drunk brother across the border. To put everything in the proper context from the very start: it is cheap. It is ridiculously cheap. It's cheaper than Cambodia. The economy went down the drain long ago, but the election of Milei propelled the inflation even further up. The local currency (black market rate) lost 20% just in the first three weeks of January. When I look up restaurants on Google Maps and see their menus photographed in November, I know that I need to double the prices for end-January (in pesos). Prices from a year ago do not mean anything, that was a different universe. I'm reading that just before covid, the taxi from the airport was 68 pesos, it is now 37,000 pesos (or 18,000 pesos on Uber) - you get the range. The wine is excellent - I was buying mine from a Chinese car service round the corner. They likely got the wine in stock in December before holidays and forgot to change prices - so I was buying wine from them in end-January for a price not seen anywhere else - $9 for a bottle with a Vivino rating 4.5 (normal malbecs are at around $2 per bottle). In an expensive Michelin restaurant, a huge 400g ribeye steak (dare I say the best steak in the world) and three negronis I accompanied it with rang me a bill of $20 total. In non-Michelin restaurants, steaks are between $5 and $8. In one of the top bars in the city mentioned in all sorts of awards and ratings, the happy hour sees two classic cocktails (I drink Negroni, but others may choose something else) for $3 (i.e. $1.50 each). Argentinian guys are not as defined or perfect as Brazilians - I'm a sucker for pectorals and abdominals, so I needed to dig hard. But thanks god for Venezuelans - they are plentiful in Buenos Aires, and they were more than half the guys I hired. Huge shout and huge thanks to @Latbear4blk who gave some incredibly useful advice on this forum. I was using local websites Soytuyo, Leonos, ArgentinaMasajes and Skokka to arrange all dates. The #1 piece of advice from @Latbear4blk was to check those profiles against the reviews on a local forum ForoPirata - that forum is gold, and I managed to save myself a lot of time (and trouble) by discarding quite a number of profiles who looked excellent on websites but got scathing reviews from previous customers on ForoPirata. If only such resources were available in other countries... I usually got two guys per day - one for "massage" and one for full sex. ArgentinaMasajes is an excellent resource, and I was very upfront with masseurs asking them direct questions on Whatsapp about what's possible on their side and what's not. Some were more modest and I wished them luck. Others entertained handjobs or fetishes, more daring ones were fine with BJs and cumming in my mouth, and the best allowed full-on sex. Mostly, I visited them in their places (after checking against references). This worked really well. Some, I invited to my place - and BA is a city where you can get excellent AirBnbs - mine was with a sweeping view from the 21st-floor balcony over the city, a rooftop gym on the 31st floor with panoramic windows, a swimming pool and a sundeck, and security that was ambivalent to visitors (the security guy just on one occasion recorded an ID of one of my guests who looked especially brutal, but on other occasions I met my guests downstairs at the security fence and then escorted them out afterwards bidding farewell without even talking to security- in most BA apartment blocks a guest would not be able to leave the building by himself without you escorting him out). "Massages" and other visits with full sex were all in $15-25 range, some slipping to $30, but never higher. (I got a local SIM card and conversed in Spanish over Whatsapp from a local number to make sure I'm not quoted crazy prices). One of my regulars was a well-known porn star - he's one of that Onlyfans cluster of Argentinian porn stars who have individual accounts and cross-pollinate bareback between each other with endless collabs. Well, I knew his name before, and his vids are everywhere (I'll omit the name). He was coming to my place for great sex for $25 ($20 rate + $5 Uber fare) and even spoke some English. I love Argentina. But as I said, it was mostly Venezuelans. If not for them, my picture would have not been this bright, but Venezuelans are muscular, defined, tattooed, insatiable, with a beautiful face and lots of kinky thoughts (and actions). One of the Venezuelans, I was coming to him every several days in the morning for a "massage" with some kinks and fetishes, and every time while I waited for him to come downstairs and open me the door, I saw the same beautiful girl coming out with two dogs, and one of them was usually immediately having a piss in front of me. When I saw her a second time, I thought it's such a coincidence, I'm at a different time than before but her dog-walking schedule matched. When I saw her again next time for the third time, it finally clicked for me that this was a GF of my "masseur" and their two dogs - she had to leave the apartment to walk the dogs for an hour so her guy would do various things with me disguised as a massage. Next time I saw her, I almost said hi. The guy was usually coming to let me in a minute after her leaving. With all that, I didn't go to any saunas - and as far as I know, there are no Brazil-style GP saunas anyway, they are normal non-escort saunas. I went once to Cine Ideal, an old grand cinema showing gay porn now in huge cinema halls with balconies - the entrance was something like $1 or $2, the cinema halls were pitch dark, and I probably could find someone and something there, but I saw little upside if I can have a $15-20 Venezuelan in proper comfort and lighting elsewhere. A couple of blocks from the cinema, there is another curious establishment - called MasajeClub. It's a business of massage coupled with a red wine bar. Apparently it's popular with locals at lunchtime and after work - the downside is that you can't select a masseur, he's assigned to you. The masseurs are your guys next door, not model-like, but they can go a looong way during the massage. The official line of this club is that you pay for massage ($4.50 one hour) and then whatever happens in the room is up to a masseur and you. There's nothing that the masseur is obliged to perform apart from the massage, but it usually involved sucking and even in some cases fucking. There are no minimum tips, so it is up to you if you want to leave anything to your masseur on top of $4.50. For something like $15 they have what they call a "circuit" - that's a 4-stage massage where four masseurs (again you can't pick) come to your room one after another to perform something like 20-25 min of massage - that may end up in four waves of different cum-shooting experiences. One or two of the four would usually not be averse to fucking. After that, they give you a glass of malbec. I've also been to the stripper bars. I remember there had been quite a few in my past visits, now only one remains, and it stages nightly shows rotating through three different locations in the city depending on the day of the week. Usually, it's three hunky straight strippers (usually coming in a bundle "one stunning, one ok, and one ugly") doing two routines - first stripping to a flaccid cock, and then the second one with a hardon. Then they come to the audience, and for a modest tip you can grab and fondle a hardon. I saw people leaving tips accounting for $0.1 or $0.2, so when I tipped $0.8, that gave me a really good grip of the cock and then a strong hug from a naked hard hunk and then a big thank you and usually a return trip from him to me for another $0.8. Big whisky cola is $2, beer is pretty much spare change. The show lasts for an hour and starts at 01:30. And then there are normal bars and clubs - again this is not the Brazilian level of eye candy, but it is still sexy in its own way. I really want to come back, this is such an underrated city to visit.

Dear @khaolakguy, It was not my intention to damn the gypsies. I apologize if my comment came across that way in my above response to @Olddaddy OP. I lived for a total of 8 years in Budapest - and I had many great adventures with the local gypsies. Unfortunately, there is an bad element within the gypsy community that gives the greater gypsy community a bad rap and name. On 2 occasions I was a victim as follows: I chatted with 2 hot gypsies posing as a gay couple for a 4 hands massage. They invited me to their place and we had some beverages together and then moved to the bed where I started to play with them and them with me - but I became super sleepy and I passed out. When I woke up later, the 2 guys were looking at me in the bedroom and asked me if I was ok. I felt terribly weak and told them that I am sorry but I must go home. I could barely drive my car back to my place. Later when I was home, I discovered that I had been robbed - as my wallet was much lighter than when I arrived at their place. Did I report this to the Hungarian police? No, because unfortunately back then in Hungary there was not much sympathy for us gays with the Hungarian police - especially if I had to tell them that I solicited sex from 2 gypsies - so, I let it go, and counted my blessings that nothing bad happened to me physically. Most likely they drugged my beverage and that is why I passed out on their bed. I had a small party at my home and one of my work colleagues asked me if she could invite 2 of her gypsy friends to my place. It was just the 4 of us. They were great fun guys and we had a great evening. Then the next day after taking a shower I realized that some of my deodorants and perfumes were missing. This really irritated me as it was a petty theft and again I let it go. I did tell my work colleague to be careful with them in her house and she told me that I needed to be more tolerant of gypsies as they have to struggle in Hungary. Did I still continue to frequent gypsies? Should I let 4 gypsies ruin the basket of gypsy apples? NO I was just more prudent with my future encounters with gypsies - as mentioned above - I used the PlanetRomeo 2 profiles that reviewed various gypsy profiles to determine who was good and who was bad. I became friends with a couple of cool gypsies and I used them as my proxies to have them introduce me to other sexy gypsies who could be trusted and that led to many additional hot sexy encounters - as I find that some gypsies can be very attractive, as they have a tendency to be super manly and full of excess testosterone - which turns me on.

I dont undrstnd. Florida reported 150; why now 200-250 ?

Sauna sex only for me, plus the occasional Uber driver. Lagoa for 50 minutes, although sometimes I take one guy for half an hour and then grab a second for the final 20 minutes. Cabin times are shorter in Rio. Yes, if they are watching the clock that would be annoying. I set the alarm on the phone so I won't run over and have to pay for the room twice because of extra five minutes of cuddling. Hope you had fun at Point tonight!!! 🤞

Venezuelan are respectful, reliable, accurate on their description and services offer. I love their big strong legs and delicious ass. Once you got to know them, sharing a glass of vino, conversation and some food, it made a huge different. The sex become more personal, passion and intense. Sadly, number of the guys I knew over the years had already moved to EU and some still in contact. Now, Lima Peru is the place to meet young and beautiful Venezuelan for a reasonable cost. I had a blast last year.......

I'm going to BA for a few days in July, with a friend from Rio. So looking forward to what delights it will offer. Venezuelan guys certainly weren't in abundance when I last visited, so will be a wonderful addition 😀. Also love the Wine so interested in the Massage/Wine place you mentioned.

Watch out there. Anyone should be very aware of your surroundings in Baires, safety levels vary depending on the neighborhood. For instance, I would not walk alone at night in the "City", the financial hood. I would not walk with a backpack or a bag on a position easy to be taken from you anywhere, not even in tourists tailored areas. And of course, all the standard precautions should be in place (do not wear expensive jewelry, watch, camera, etc). I am glad you have an amazing experience in Buenos Aires, but as someone who lives for decades in the city, I do not think the differences on security with Brazilian cities are so significant. Yes, it is slightly safer IF YOU STAY IN THE SAFER AREAS.

excellent report Is BA safer than SP, Rio for tourists?

God save Venezuelans!