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Prompted by a video of their staff posted on their LINE feed, I satisfied a whim and paid a late afternoon visit to Phoenix Massage. My route took me from the MRT blue line station at Samyan to Lat Phrao where I connected to the MRT yellow line monorail. Although the signage is fairly good (follow Exit 4), it took me up and down escalators, up elevator, across parking garage on a 10-minute journey. Following shop’s advice, I got off at Lat Phrao 83 stop and walked about 10 minutes to soi 110. That’s where the directions on Google map went haywire. According to map I should be looking to turn left onto second sub soi. But there wasn’t one. After walking back and forth, I messaged shop and they sent me same map link. Lost, I figure what are my chances of finding anyone who speaks English this far out. As it turned out, everyone I asked (3 people) spoke it very well! The first was a couple outside their house. They directed me to the opposite side of street and told me to take next soi, I did but quickly arrived at intersection. Spotted two women sitting outside a convenience store. Before I could pull out my phone, one said “can I help you? In perfect English. She turned out to have worked 30 years in LA. She immediately asked me what I thought of election and I told her I was sorry Harris lost. “So am I,” replied Tammy, who then summoned two nieces who were learning English to come and demonstrate their new skills. After we chatted a few more minutes, she asked “what brings you here?” I showed her the address and she pointed down the soi. “It should be a little after my house on the right side,” she said. I thanked them and made my goodbyes. Sure enough, a garage like structure bearing the shop name soon appeared. I opened the door and the manager handed me a bottle of chilled water. I showed him the video and guy who captured my interest. “Oh, he’s here now,” he said, motioning to a one playing pool with a few others. While the boy went to collect his the massage basket, I inquired about the price and was informed there was a promotion of 1600 baht that was inclusive of tip. I was a bit apprehensive but was exhausted and had come a long way to cure my curiosity and agreed. The room was small but had AC, table and shower. The guy quickly arrived, stripped down and joined me in shower. He made sure I was carefully soaped up and I returned the favor. As we towel off, I used sign language to let him know I didn’t want any oil (he was first one so far that didn’t speak English), His technique was ok and he straddled me in the way I can resist advancing the schedule. When I rolled over, things progressed quickly but still found 10 minutes or so to massage him. He checked all the boxes of what would qualify as a full service massage in most readers’ book. He was just attentive in the post massage shower. This was a new experience that took the minimum tip process a step beyond, and I came away liking it. At no time did the guy ask more for any service. He was pleasant and accommodating throughout. For the record, he was from Isaan. As I left the shop, the manager called my attention to four boys at pool table who paused and smiled. I could have have taken any of them. As I walked back towards the station, I mused that 1600 might be a bit steep of locals but I didn’t give it much thought because I believe I received fair value. If I knew the lay of the land the total travel time would have been no more than 1:10. Cost each way 75 baht, I wouldn’t advise this undertaking if you have mobility issues. But it suited me because it reinforced my confidence in getting around the sprawling city with its excellent public transportation options. Should you decide to go, one final tip. As soon as you turn on to Lat Phrao 110, abandon phone map and turn immediately hard right and take your first left. Shop will be on your left a few minutes walk down.

No I was not being serious in the sense when i made the post it was clear to me who was going to win so I headed the post sarcastically 'Well done USA electors!" (note the exclamation mark... I really meant the opposite) -then I increased the sarcasm by saying Make American Gay Again. Being from a British background sarcasm is part of our culture.... I am truly sorry to learn of your nephew's anxiety. Stay safe. And remember the UK also has a lot of idiots when it comes to voting...look what happened when they were asked to vote for Brexit... .....Take Care.

The reviews can be difficult to understand if you use google translate, but if you ask ChatGPT to translate, that translation is usually much more powerful and understandable. However, you will likely get a message that you’re breaking ChatGPT’s terms of service… its so prude.

There was at least 8 Gogo bars on my first trip to Phuket in 2001. The decline happened after the Tsunami, when gay tourists stopped visiting and the older generation of gay visitors decided travelling to Pattaya was easier than an additional flight to Phuket

The inmates are now running the asylum.

Last year in Paris I booked a guy off Hunqz who looked a lot like what I think a Romanian gypsy looks like or should look like, and what I find attractive. Skinny as a rail and a huge dick. And turned out to be a little scary.

Including yours @reader --> sorry I could not resist. Thanks for sharing this report with us. I love these far out of the way places - they can be hidden gems with rewarding surprises - as you found out. Back in August when I ventured to find the then new GLAM's massage place - I took the MRT to get there, but I went the wrong way on the MRT and it made a humongous long circular journey around the outskirts of Bangkok. As part of the line is elevated - I could see the city skyscrapers becoming more and more distant - but I stayed with the plan - as that was what Google told me to do. When I returned back to the Raya - I entered into the same MRT station (Sutthisan) but I must have gone in a different direction as I was back to Lumphini in a jiffy without doing any long circular journey. I remember telling @vinapu about this after I returned and he laughed, as it was obvious to him that I went in the wrong direction which took me the long way to get to GLAM's. We live and learn through these adventures.

I assume that you remain unchanged over the decades? You and Dorian Gray!

Trump for 4 more years. Unimaginably horrible and atrocious.

Had a unmemorable time in Pattaya last week, except for meeting @Keithambrose and @BjornAgain . My stay at the Ambiance was good, still like that hotel, comfortable/clean beds sheets, cold ac, dark as fuck room, which vampires prefer. Someone had asked about the noise, which I've never noticed because I come in after 3am usually, however, one night I stayed in, my sleeping routine was messed up and wanted to rest. I was on the 2nd floor and could hear the noise/music from BBB downstairs, but by 1230am was quiet again. Mike Taxi was ontime and the vehicles they had in both direction were late models and very comfortable. Staying at the Tarntawan, another old reliable for me and the same as Ambiance without the noise, they stays here are always very quiet. Price/location combo can't be beat and still the same staff mostly for many years, except last night I met a new overnight desk agent, he seems nice though. I went with @reader to Saphan Kawi to a massage shop, PHETBOY Spa and I reserved someone from their listings since I was unsure how many would be there on demand, in hindsight I should've taking the chance since there were so many massage shops in the area. The guy that I reserved turned out to be the worst massage/sex experience EVER in Thailand for me. His pictures were heavily fotoshopped and I should of called it off right then, but thought maybe he has some skills or equipment that would compensate. It only got worse at each step.... HORRIBLE massage skills, I kept thinking that if @macaroni21 had been writing a review it would've been zero's across the board. I put him on the floor to show him a few techniques, then gave him another try. Nope, at this point I thought he was just dumb, but who was I to speak since I was still there 🙄 After 17 mins of massage, he wanted to start to chuck wow....now their listings show T or B and he was listed as a Top. Maybe he was unaware of that part? Didn't/couldn't fuck and at 48 mins he said he had to go because he had work (another client somewhere) at 6pm. I got dressed and went downstairs, he asked "Tip?". I spoke to the manager (probably owner) and all he was concerned with was that the shop got their money, Listed mon tips were 800/1000. I told him any tip I gave the kid would be a gift, shop fee was 380 and I gave 1000, more than I should've. Manager apologized and said see you next time, to which I could only laugh. Reader was waiting outside and first thing I said to him was this was the worst massage ever in Thailand and he quickly replied, couldn't have been worse than mine, lmao. Since we were taking the Skytrain we decided to go to Madrid to eat, the pizza place not the city. Called Jenny to confirm she was opened and she said yes and would prepare a table for us. See other post about Madrid. After going out separate ways, I went to Hot Male to see if Alex's cousin was there, I had messaged him a month and a week ago to let him know I'd be coming only to find out he was off today. Messaged him and he said he's in Pattaya and won't be back until Fri, I leave EARLY Sat 😑 Wasn't turning out to be a good day, except for the pizza so far....went to Circus to see a couple of waiters I have on FB as friends walked soi 4, didn't see anything interesting. Sat outside Sunrise Taco checking out the apps. One of the boys that I went with before from HotMale gogo recognized me, he looked like a homeless person and I asked him what happened. He just came from his country and is walking Silom looking for clients, he asked for my line. I told him no way, I've had a bad luck day and didn't need anymore today. I saw @Keithambrose walking pass me and I yelled at him, he seemed shocked and came back. Hope he didn't think I was a homeless guy looking for a trick 🤔 We walked over to Hot Male downstairs to which he invited me for a drink, I'm a cheap date. Talked for awhile until a nearby table or screaming/cackling Thai's became unbearable and we left. I walked down to Tawan, Super A and Nature boy....as I passes Where Golden Cock used to be, a guy that I knew from there came running up to me, I had seen a bunch of people sitting outside at tables, guys and girls and thought it was a straight bar, he said no, it's a new bar, Mr O's kitchen or something like that. I always had a good time with him, so I went in to buy him a beer 200 baht. I thought I was going to off him so bought him another beer, because now it was late and no other options. Apparently the owner is from Las Vegas and has Nature boy too according to this kid. I guess he is a gambler, lol. Then this kid seemed like he was trusted to be in charge when the owner left and said he couldn't go with me, wtf is happening today I thought. He introduced me to the 5 guys that were available, 2 were really cute and 1 said he wasn't for me (bottom) but my friend referred me to an average guy saying I'll be happier with him for massage and sex (500 off 1500 tip). He's known me for years so I took his advice.... turned out to be a fun end of a shitty day. Over 2 hours of massage and fucking, even after he finished he made sure I did too, which is good because so many lose interest after they cum, including myself. He said we could do another day and he doesn't watch the clock can be hours and hours, but he looks like he can drink as much as me and that could add up to a lot, lol Went to sleep about 530am and woke up at almost 1pm.....my vampire sleep routine is back!!!

When I was in Romania 25+ years ago, the Gypsy/Roma men were gorgeous. They still wore black hats and black vests and were often carrying violin and guitar cases. The women still had flounced skirts and golden bangles and smacked their runny-nose kids.

I have read so many of these reviews (maybe 100+) and I really only try to figure out few things. I am frankly amused by how they are written as some form of erotica, but I am paying them for practical information and less for arousal reason. hope this is helpful If this is a S, SS or H shop (you can tell by the tips they give out at the end). S is 1000, SS is 1500-2000 and H is 2000-2500. Expected tips (per above) - they are mostly the same. If the boy looks as good as the photo (sometimes they say its better, the same or up to 15% less than the photo) State of the store (description/suggestion if its clean, has separate washroom) Fun factor: description like “hold me like a boyfriend”, “LGBTQ”, “kissing” Not so fun factor: “real man work, no kissing, does not burn the hole, does help with the hand” - suggest limited scope of work Procedures and norm: Many SS shops do have to ask the client if they want extra service or not. The code is “B2B” (higher tier service) , or “help with the hand” (Soft job) or no extra. If there is no extra, a soft shop masseur wont even touch the good!

Hello @t0oL1. I am writing you now live from one of my ED Shockwave treatments here in Pattaya. My current ongoing ED Shockwave treatments use the FOCUSED methodology, using the highly recommended BTL machine. I had come to learn that the RADIAL Shockwave methodology was a waste of time and money after performing many hours of research. The treatments are not cheap. Above is the quotation that was given to me and within 2 weeks I should conclude my treatment schedule for 13 visits at 2 times every week. As promised in my other forum post at: I will be posting a summary of all of my various ED treatments, reviews, impressions, etcetra before I head off to The Philippines to start my 4-4-4 Thailand tax minimalization plan in late December.

Visited and offed guys dreamboys and banana last trip, both bars has been dry (producing no off) on many previous trips before. My advise, go visit all bars at least once every trip. You only need one guy. In desperate times, i do see guys i can make do even in freshboys and good boys. Also, there are still few hunks in hotmale. Jupiter - full of hunks, mostly unwilling to go with guys, but during low season, changed to will go with guys but only do HJ. Luckily i have a regular there. Moonlight - losing its luster fast with me. Still have one or two guy i might off. Line up might change too, so some bars might be worth repeat visits.

Anyone tried this place? The boys are not super cute, at least for me, but could be a nice addition to the scene. address is : เลขที่ 124/113 หมู่ 10 นองปรือ Bang Lamung District, Chon Buri 20150, Thailand google maps https://maps.app.goo.gl/wTzCq7KDQdgPqQsa9?g_st=com.google.maps.preview.copy TikTok account @boyfriend.pattaya They are live right now on TikTok and seem to have 20 boys.

Now with yellow monorail is kind of easy

Well thats a disaster in the making. Trump thinks he knows everything about everything when he actually knows NOTHING about Anything.... He scammed his supporters into thinking he was Presidential, now he wants them to think he's an expert in EVERY field. If you are not gonna let anyone exercise their EXPERTISE in a field, why appoint anyone at all ? Either way, he will take credit for EVERYTHING. All his appointees better start saving up their coins to cover their "legal fees" down the road. Now that Trump also won the popular vote, he really thinks he is invincible, and now he is also "untouchable". Wonder what role Cocaine Jr will get ? If he does the vetting, you can bribe him for an office with a "nickle bag"....

Let's just get REAL and be perfectly Clear here, Trump didnt win because he was the best, most qualified candidate. He won because he was good at Gaslighting and Persuasion. That's why used car salesmen excel at selling "Clunkers"... They can make a piece of crap seem "desirable'.... And piece of crap Trump made himself appear desirable to an audience that was purposely misinformed and misled.

That's going back a bit! I'm free! The store was said to be based on a late department store, near where I live, Clements of Watford, which certainly looked a bit like Grace Brothers.

You live in some parallel reality. Democrats must admit - the elections are lost, lost disastrously. Democrats need to open their eyes, flooded with lies from pro-democracy media, and strictly ask their party leaders - why did you allow this? Why did your egoism outweigh the interests of the party and the country? Why did you betray us?

Those are part of the new recent condo construction projects where the model is to emulate the postage stamp sized condos of Hong Kong. You need to look at the condo buildings that were built in the late 1980s and 1990s where they are large - like I mentioned earlier - like any of the many View Talay projects or the Grand Condotel, or Jomtien Condotel - as most of them are right on the gay Dongtan beach with amazing views of the beach, sea, and Koh Larn --> with sunsets to die for.

Just talking about that TRT testereone 💉 💉 💉 I had 3 injection 150ml X 2 then a 250 ml in the last 4 weeks whilst in Thailand 150 once a week then a 250 ml before I left last Saturday This week I lost energy,very tired sometimes emotional I went to see my Doctor here in Australia too much testereone he shouts down the phone your estrogens are very high

hi guys.. i am ash.. from INDIA. This is my 4th visit to pattaya and 1st time i came alone here to explore more naughty things. I reached BKK airport at 9.30am on 25th october. as there is no visa policy for INDIANS just done direct immigration and came out. Grab taxi cost me 1500 thai baht to pattaya Sunshine hotel. Sunshine hotel is cheap( 750 babt per day for total 4 days) and best for solo travel. They given me room at 2pm afternoon even though check in time is at 3pm. 25-10-2024 Day 1 - I went to Helios men .. the best for me {[( 2017 i went once , 2019 i went once , then 2023 march i went once)]} helios never disappointed me. I always take foam massage because massage less fun part more. the boys here are very co-operative massage cost - 600 min tip to boy -- 1000 I met the guy name Tree. he is medium to gym build. I dont like six packs or heavy built guys.he is best he told me to take shower and left for 2-3min , after shower he came and given back rub and we did alot of fun.. kissing hugging i did massage to him as well ofcourse he did massage to me.. 69 we did.. i fucked him little because just fucking is not my cup of tea i like passionate romance alot. I am versa top ( sorry if someone felt bad that i explained little more about what happened at Helios. I paid him extra 1000baht to him because he did his best. I took his whatsapp number and asked him to come with me for Xboys night 10pm and 11pm show because i never went to any gogoboys bar. he came at 9.30pm and we went inside Xboyz. Xboyz show was mind blowing.. full of cocks. I thought to take back the same massage guy who i met helios thats the reason i told him to come with me. Xboys pattaya at 9.50pm show cost - 300baht including drink I like 1 guy age 25yrs and finally talked to someguy who is operating this show.. initially told 800 is off fee and boy told 2800 his fees. then i told no. but operating guy finally told to take the guy for total 2500 without off fees or 500 off fees and 2000 for Short time(ST) both are same haha. I offered 2 drinks for him.. he is very co-operative.. and operating guy took my hand from boys shoulder and told me to catch boys cock.. and i did that he is very comfortable and rest his head on my shoulder. The guy name tree who came with me since 9.45pm he is just laughing with me as i ditched him and taking back new guy in positive way. I told Mr. tree guy clearly .. if i dont like anyone then u come to my room i pay 1500 baht as u fixed the price if not i will take u to my room some day in 4 days visit here for sure. Mr.tree is co-operative and helped me to talk with boy and decrease the money by bargain as well. finally i given Mr-Tree 500 baht and 300 drink for him and he is happy too. Me and the new boy from Xboyz went to my hotel room and enjoyed under hot shower. he is very soft and medium tight body. I licked his entire body all parts almost did romance for 1hr 30min. i went to Indian restaurant and ate he left after the fun. He is top and i am too so except fuck we did everything. Xboys pattaya show is the best full of nudity and timepass. I loved it. at 3.30am i slept till next day 11am. If this content helpful and to give some suggestions plz do comment and will continue my rest of journey for 4 days.

Behind tukcom building... https://g.co/kgs/VxKGTiB

Looks like he's getting ready to "grab her by the titties " ?

Tawan is now called “The One”, same type of men as before. Moonlight bar might have boys your type. Freshboys have twinks, many of them quite athletic too, so you might find some that fit your criteria there, but Moonlight might be a better bet.

if you move in with me @Olddaddy you will get an earful from me. You ask very good thought provoking questions that sometimes give me fear, present a challenge, or are entertaining. It was you who wrote a post in the summer of 2022 (just before my former employer moved me to Thailand as part of my retirement package) where you asked a VERY thought provoking question which was (I am paraphrasing your post - I am too lazy to dig it out of this forum's archives) - "what do all of the falangs do when they sit on their balconies looking out at the sea in Jomtien all day?? Do they get bored?" @Olddaddy, that question freaked me out - I was packing my belongings back in Europe for the big move and I thought to myself - oh shit - what if @Olddaddy is correct? What if I am making the BIGGEST mistake of my life - after all of the many years that I invested on the very difficult question, "where do I want to retire?" And yes, I often did get bored in that first year. I would sit on my balcony looking at that beautiful Gulf of Thailand sea - and think to myself - why am I bored? I worked my entire life to live on the sea - as that was my lifelong dream. Then I realized that if I am getting bored then the ONLY person that can change that is ME!! So, I got off of my ass and made myself busy. The hardest transition in retirement is that we are often identified by our careers and when there is no more career - we can go into identity crisis - to answer the Holy Grail question of: What is my purpose in life?? That was the hardest part of my new retirement and now I am finally beyond that because I filled up my life with many little things that when combined fill up my days, so that I don't have too much free time to worry about, "am I bored?" or "what is my purpose in life?" and @emiel1981 wrote about this in his recent Pattaya trip report. Him and I, were often sitting in the Jomtien Complex and wondering is that guy who just walked by @Olddaddy ?? Then we would say, hmm, no he is too fat and Olddaddy said that he goes to the gym and is not yet retired. Let us look for a more fit guy who is younger and not so feeble.....

I believe Floridarob’s description of his first massage in Saphan Kwai touches on developments I began to notice this trip. I first started patronizing these shops on my first post-Covid trip. I was immediately impressed generally with both the abundance of guys available and their performance. Three years on, I’m beginning to see a few cracks. Maintaining some sense of quality control becomes increasingly challenging as the numbers expand as they have. Also a factor is that a good portion of the guys have been around for 2-3 years and are becoming becoming a bit jaded as they circulate among various shops as free agents. Bigger is not necessarily better if value is eroded in the process.

Yes I do - already since 2 years and 2 months I get up at the crack of dawn and go to the gym - my training starts at 7:50am - I finish the gym between 9:55am and 10:10am. Then I go eat breakfast at Tinnies (the Australian place with the BEST bacon in all of Pattaya - in my opinion). Then depending on the day, I grab a Bolt from Jomtien into almost North Pattaya where I go for my ED Shockwave treatment at 11:30am and that lasts for around 35 to 40 minutes - then I take a motorbike taxi to the TRT (testosterone replacement therapy) clinic - near Boyztown. That lasts for about 10 to 15 minutes if it is not a day when they need to draw blood for the monthly stats. Then the baht bus back to Jomtien, run local errands - like to FoodMart and/or 7-Eleven or to go see my viagra/cialis lady to stock up the supply. Then home for a 2 hour nap. Then around 5pm or 6pm one of my 4 hands massage coordinators brings himself and another guy to massage me and have some fun. Then clean up, myself, the bed, shower area and if one of them wants to go eat we usually go outside of the Jomtien Complex to grab a bite - it is usually Thai food. Then head into the Jomtien Complex for a drink and by 9pm or 10pm I am craving my bed to catch up on some internet and/or watch some YouTube and then fall asleep. Rinse and repeat and before you know it the week has finished. On non gym days (there are 3) then my schedule is more free and I walk on the beach, or go to Koh Larn, or go into Central Pattaya to one of the malls, go see a movie - catch up with friends, etcetra You don't need to cross that busy road (Thappraya) - you can live in one of the many beach condos that are all within walking distance of the Jomtien Supertown Complex and the gay Dongtan beach. They are: View Talay 7 Jomtien Complex Condotel Grand Condotel View Talay 5 (there are 2) Jomtien Plaza Condotel Of course you will pay more because the above condos are on or very near to the beach. On the other side of the busy Thappraya road - there is View Talay 2 (2 buildings) and also View Talay 1 (2 buildings) that are much cheaper than the above listed on-the-beach condo list. Yes - easily. Just realize to put into your budget 2 important factors: Boy tax - everytime you bring one to your room or do them in a massage and/or short time room there is a fee - these can become very expensive - so make sure that you have a way to finance all of this or you might need to join the PFC, NEW Thai government taxation (effective from 01-Jan-2024) on money that you bring into Thailand (i.e., remittances) as Assessable Income --> my Boy tax is already too high so when the government decided to get greedy - as I am already spending a considerable amount of my discretionary income in the local Thai economy - I decided that from 2025 forward I will only live in Thailand for less than 180 days for each alternating year - thus giving the money that I would have spent in Thailand to other nearby countries (The Philippines and Vietnam). I do not agree with this statement. It is easier to make expat friends with these 2 types of expats: those here on vacation, those who live here seasonally. I found that the expats that live here full time are not easy to make friends with and in fact I have given up on this endeavor - and I instead concentrate making Thai friends. Even my 1 local expat friend, JD100, is leaving Thailand due to this difficulty to make friends with the full time expats that live here. There seems to be some kind of acid in the local water - as I cannot explain it but better to leave the hornets nest alone. Yes I agree for 2 primary reasons: 1.) it can become too expensive, 2.) if you go into the Jomtien Complex too often the excitement wears off when the emphasis of 98% of the bar owners is that you as the farang = "farang sit and farang drink" - as I do not like to sit in a chair all night and I do not like to drink it becomes VERY lethargic and boring and unhealthy. There is no excitement and there is no decent place where you can stand up and expend some energy - like a great place to dance with good music. So, one of the nighttime alternatives can be to walk over to the gay volleyball on Dongtan beach near the Pattaya waterpark and Sea Rescue. When I do it is a fun night because although I cannot play (I am not good enough) I can jump up and down and cheerlead the guys on and run after the stray balls to avoid that they get wet in the shoreline waves. It is a social event where you walk around and not only sit on your ass all night - so it is not lethargic as a night out in the Jomtien Complex can be. This is incorrect. All of the View Talays were built before this current fad to copy HongKong style small cramped dwellings - so I find the View Talays to be rather large. Mine is 98 sqm with 2 sea facing balconies - more than enough for 1 person. I have looked at many of the newer constructed beach condos and they are mostly all very small and VERY expensive. My goal is to be in walking distance of the Jomtien Complex - so most of the newer constructed cramped buildings are too far away and would require that you either buy a motorbike and have to worry about having an accident or create a BIG dependency on BOLT for transportation purposes.

I'm here right now and Phuket is very nice if you explore on a motorbike. Lovely viewpoints to be seen and Karon Beach and Kata Noi beach are lovely. Patong beach not so good. Went the first night to Soi Paradise ( gay area) and so disappointed. Nothing but full blast dance music and 90 year old drag queen's 🤪 Walked to next Soi....which is massage Soi and some said 'no sex' on the doors. There was one bar called Heaven Bar in which I was the only customer. Manager was nice but other guy just gamed all evening on his phone. All in all it's not a fraction as good as Jomtien. Won't bother again. And Phuket a lot more expensive than Pattaya/ Jomtien also. However, I'd still say come see for yourself as you will then have a true opinion for yourself 👍

Ermita is near Rizal Park But if you want modern American clean streets Makati Green belt area or BGC area is the best

It's in Ermita; a rather impractical location in my experience.

Finally made it there. Confirmed address on Line, it is Sukumvit 4 Alley. The Aunty at the desk wanted to charge 1490B again, I quoted the rainy season price of 1000B and she just shrugged her shoulders and said ok. Minimum tip is 2000B due to the boys being models:) Took me up to the 3rd floor and asked to wait. The room was great with a standard massage table and ensuite. Waited a few minutes for my massuer to arrive. I was not dissapointed. His pics were undoubtably touched up, but they were recent and he looked better in person. Showered solo, then started the massage, him fully clothed. Did a lot of streching and compression which felt great. At some stage he stripped completly and started with a more sensual massage, playing with my ass and cock. He was very good, using his mouth as well. He was adverised as a top, but as we progressed he said he wanted me to fuck him, which i was happy to do. He put a condom on me and lowered himself down. It was a great experiance, he was very passionate, happy to kiss and was hard the entire time. I told him I wanted to try him out, so he happily slipped on a franger and gave it to me. We swapped roles a few times, with us both climaxing when I topped him. It was a really enjoyable experiance. Not only was he hot, but he made the effort to either make a connection or fake one. Either way it was still cool. I tipped 3000B as we went way over time and I really enjoyed myself. Would I go back again? Definately. I couldnt work out how to pay the online deposit but that was no issue, just paid cash when I got there. I'd love to go back and have round two, bur there are just so many hot guys here! We shall see. Pics show the entrance and the room. They have at least 4 with similar setup.

yes , they change names as often as some people underwear

You forgot king of them all Hero, later MyHero, also sadly gone but building still stands

Take the train to Phrom Phong. Jey Spa is in the area. From Nana station, Phrom Phong is just 2 stops out. Another option is Googuy. The do not have a physical shop. Instead, they have an arrangement with a short time motel in the Nana area. After you make a booking for a boy, the manager will book a short time room for you, and give you instructions where and how to meet the boy. The problem with Googuy is that they want payment transferred to them electronically in advance. I have not figured that part out.

I'd say the impression that residential buildings in Manila offer more privacy / less security than hotels is incorrect in my experience: Most upscale residential buildings, especially BGC, Makati, McKinnley, Ortigas, will have extensive security, controlling every entrance with the need to register visitors. Some newer buildings actually have digital registration systems and the landlord will receive a realtime notification with name/date/time of all visitors to the unit. Most security guards have been in their jobs for a long time and will know all the people in the building, their unit number and family/friends/staff- anybody who's a regular. Filipinos are generally very socio-economically aware and exceptions (from rules & registration) are made for regulars and/or wealthy or connected (seeming) people. A wealthy local lady, swinging an LV bag, dropped of by driver and tailed by assistant will most likely not be stopped. In fact, the guard will probably be able to tell you what family she belongs to, what businesses they control and what political faction they support... Similar rules, gradually tightening, will be applied to well dressed foreigners or locals. A young, local guy in basketball shorts, tank top and flip flops will face much more scrutiny. Some large buildings with mostly small apartments, like the Beacon, have many, many Airbnb units and may have somewhat relaxed rules - but security still observes and will step in when they deem somebody out of place... If you can afford an international trip to Manila, I would not recommend to stay in any place that doesn't have security - it's not a place you'd want to be as an obvious outsider... I consider the Philippines one of the safest places I have been - but there is a lot of poverty, desperation and violence outside the bubble... On the other hand, there is still a bit of a macho culture, sexcapades or affairs are very common, love motels and mistress apartments are everywhere and staff is very discreet. If you are not worried about privacy, stay at any mid-tier/upscale hotel/Airbnb you'd like and be friendly & respectful to the staff. The security guys are more likely to give you a wink than a raised eyebrow once they notice your shenanigans. Educated, English speaking middle class & up guys from (free) Grindr dates won't have a problem and will appreciate the environment (more than the next suggestion)... If you are greatly worried about privacy or security, stay at whatever hotel/Airbnb you like and take your love interest to one of the countless love motels. Their whole, thriving business is built on security & discretion! If you plan to have lots of visitors, they have regular (low) overnight rates, too, just stay there...

Don't know what guys your after but all the guys I had from the apps ,all free, were satisfying to me If your after big cocks then Philippines is not for you either is south Korea I love the "manly" dominate Filipino boys with small cocks actually, and of course most are closet top gays which is my big turn on for me knowing most have girlfriends Brown skinned smooth looks , boyish looks , slim build ,small to medium cocks I don't like tall guys or guys bigger than me Maybe you have a different fetish from me I don't know ,but I'm heading back to Philippines soon ready to have my daddy ass fucked again and my pussy licked It's the only place I know where they love to rim 👅you , out of the 10 or so guys I had about 7 enjoyed rimming me and lick under my balls ,they love doing it as one said " it's better than licking pussy " I found most Filipino guys are dominant personalities and love their cocks sucked and slap my face I'm not sure of why your not succeeding,it can come down to many things ,and of course what your after sexually and how you look ,act ,etc

@roughjock - my impressions of Manila are the same.

I'm in Manila now after touring around all of Asia. The sex here is by far the worst. Yes, as a white person you can get a ton of free sex. But the men are often quite small, clingy and the sex is very unsatisfying. Even the ones "for hire" leave a lot to be desired. In fact, I have not found a single one worth paying for. Most of them have below average bodies, small dicks. There are some hot go-go boys at clubs like Nectar, but they are no where to be found on the apps. I feel like Olddaddy and I simply have much different preferences! I'm DYING to leave and return to Bangkok or Hanoi.

Would be the high end of accommodation I guess if your into 5 star hotels there are plenty in Manila and of course if you can afford it go for it ! Me though , I'm too stingy ,I prefer a Airbnb

I can't really speak to massage spas and bars because I was inundated by messages on Grindr as soon as I arrived, but I can speak a little to guest-friendliness... I stayed at the Holiday Inn and Suites at Makati (June 2024) after a recommendation from this website and although there was security doing checks at every entry point, I was never questioned when I met a guy off site and then took him in with me and escorted him out again. Unfortunately each new guy I brought back to my room ever expanded the grins on the faces of the security people, especially the female ones for some reason, and although it was a bit embarrassing the thought of sucking this hot guy's cock or getting fucked by him very soon was enough to get through that... I would meet my hook up very close by, such as at the entrance to Glorietta Mall next door and say to security that he was my friend as we were having our bags "searched" (opened and then they poke around with a stick for 2 seconds.) On the few occasions I didn't meet my hook up outside and bring him in personally (I was initially waiting for them at the elevators), security would either keep his ID until he went back out or if somehow he got in without handing his ID, they would actually detain him on the way out until he provided my name and room number so they could check I was OK. One guy never checked the room number on the way out and Grindr was delaying messages as usual so he was detained by security for ten minutes before he could get through to me, and then security rang my room to check all was OK. I took a walk by and drive by of several other hotels in the surrounding areas and they looked to have even tighter security with airport style metal detectors at the door, and I was told that some hotels do not allow visitors to guest rooms at all... Hotel security was the stand out difference for me in Manila, especially compared to Bangkok (Ibis Styles Silom) where I would just meet a hook up at the bottom of the elevators and then he would see himself out with no issues at all (Dec 2023). But then I found Filipino guys so much less transactional than Thai guys - not one of my hook ups asked for money even for a ride to get there. They really really get in to having their cock sucked, which I know sounds strange, because don't all guys? Yeh, but it seems on another level with Filipino guys and I am happy to help them out! ...

i visited them last week the experience was not good it was like average

With your writing style of leaving half the letters out of words, you can't figure out a mistype.....🧐 Cumming

I am surprised that you haven't visited Jey Spa! I had the impression that you have visited all the massage shops in Bangkok! Hahaha

The address post in Macaroni Video is https://www.facebook.com/SakePubnew/ is not in the same area (Damnoen). Video is 4 years old. But the old Sake (closed - in my knowledge .. many years ago) has a active Facebook page as well.

+1 You might also wish to take them on a short field trip. Go down Surawong and pass by the massage shops. Plenty of cooked food vendors and attractive masseurs (or masseuses, depending on preference) along the way. If they seem to enjoy themselves, turn left on Soi Tarntawan (at 7-11) and continue to Soi 6 to complete the tour. I do it almost nightly and never seems to lose its charm.

Finally had the opportunity to try this shop today. When I arrived and inquired what guys were available, I was presented with an array of about eight cards with photos. After making my selection, a houseboy accompanied to my cubicle on the third floor and pointed out the shower down the hall. Before leaving, he hung a card with my masseur’s photo on the outside of door. My guy arrived about five minutes after I finished showering. He had a huge smile and the first thing he did was give me an embrace and said he be right back. He was hunkier than the photo suggested but proved himself very agile. Following the workout, we showered together which he succeeded in turning into additional fun. Before leaving the lobby, he brought me a cup of warm tea. One hour oil 400. Mattress pad on the floor. Found the facilities very clean throughout. Gladly adding this place to my other list of Saphan Kwai favorites: K Man, One Spa and KK.

I found them on Twitter and fell in love with the wide variety of guys there. Actually, I found them as one of the guys I met worked there and he suggested their Twitter and I started following. I have not been to the massage house yet, but it is on my agenda. Here are some of the offerings today. https://twitter.com/bantai_men