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Day 1 I arrive at Suvarnabhumi on time. The purpose of this short trip is to satisfy the desires of the flesh, but also to cultivate the flesh. As will become clear. Jey Spa I head off to an appointment with Guy at Jey spa. While genetically he’s unable to show a six pack. He is athletic and has a good personality. The afters are divine. He takes me from several positions. At the end I am very happy, but exhausted. Fresh boys The bar is full and continues to be so throughout the evening. They have a lineup of about 41 boys. #16 and #19 are muscular twinks. #41 is a bit past his sell by date, but he’s got a great body. He just needs to replace the volume he’s lost in his face… #17 is from Myanmar. The show is pretty standard, with big cock show, foam and shower and drag queen lip sync, and not really Halloween themed, but the waiters are in costume at least. There is mostly a crowd of Asians, Chinese mainland, but some single farangs. Many younger farangs brought their boyfriends which of course reduces the chance of an off. Not that many women in the crowd this evening. It is mainly one older farang who tip the boys on stage. I do not off anyone (but would have considered offing #27) as I am quite frankly exhausted after Jey Spa.

From Patttaya Mail In response to the growing concerns among expatriates, the Thai Revenue Department has issued Orders No. P. 161 and 162/2566, effective from January 2024, to provide clear guidelines on the taxation of foreign-sourced income. Here’s a detailed look at what these new regulations entail and how they impact residents and expatriates in Thailand. Key Provisions of Order No. P. 161/2566, Foreign Income Reporting Starting January 1, 2024, all residents in Thailand must report income from abroad when it is brought into the country. This includes income from work, investments, and assets located outside Thailand. However, any income earned before this date can be transferred to Thailand tax-free if done by December 31, 2024. Residency Condition Under Section 41, Paragraph 3, anyone staying in Thailand for one or more periods totaling at least 180 days in any tax year is considered a resident and must comply with these tax regulations. Repeal of Conflicting Regulations Any previous regulations that contradict the new order are officially repealed. This move aims to eliminate inconsistencies and ensure a unified approach to foreign income taxation. Exemption for Pre-2024 Income The amendment explicitly states that income earned before January 1, 2024, is exempt from these new provisions if transferred to Thailand by the end of 2024. This provides a grace period for taxpayers to adjust to the new rules. Alignment with Prior Guidelines The new orders align with existing guidelines to ensure a smooth transition for both taxpayers and revenue officers. This helps in maintaining consistency and clarity in the application of tax laws. Impact on Expatriates and Residents The new tax rules significantly impact expatriates and long-term residents in Thailand, particularly those with foreign-sourced income. Here’s how, – Expatriates with Taxed Income For expatriates receiving income already taxed in another country, such as pensions, these amounts will not be subject to additional Thai taxes. This is particularly relevant for retirees living in Thailand who receive pensions from their home countries. – Income from Foreign Work or AssetsIncome generated from work or assets located abroad must be reported if transferred into Thailand from January 1, 2024, onwards. This includes dividends, interest, rental income, and capital gains from foreign investments. – Professional Tax Advice Given the complexity of the new regulations, retirees and those with foreign income are strongly advised to seek professional tax advice to ensure compliance and optimize their tax liabilities. Action Points for Taxpayers To comply with the new regulations, taxpayers should take the following steps: File Form 90 Taxpayers must prepare and file the Income Tax Declaration (Form 90) by March 31, 2025. This form will include all relevant income and deductions for the tax year. Maintain Documentation It is crucial to keep comprehensive records of all income sources, taxes paid abroad, and any transfers into Thailand. Proper documentation will help in accurately reporting income and claiming any applicable deductions or exemptions. Example: A German Retired Citizen Living in Thailand Consider a German retiree, Mr. Müller, who has been living in Thailand for several years with a non-immigrant annual visa. He receives a monthly pension from Germany, which is already taxed there. Here’s how the new orders affect him, Pension Income Mr. Müller’s pension, taxed in Germany, will not be subject to additional Thai taxes due to the Double Tax Agreement (DTA) between Thailand and Germany. He should keep records of his pension statements and tax payments in Germany. Other Foreign Income If Mr. Müller has other sources of income from investments or assets abroad, he must report this income if brought into Thailand from January 1, 2024. For instance, if he receives interest from a foreign bank account or rental income from a property in Germany, this must be included in his Thai tax declaration. Pre-2024 Income Any income Mr. Müller earned before January 1, 2024, can be transferred to Thailand without incurring Thai taxes if done by December 31, 2024. He should document these transfers clearly to avoid any future tax issues. Residency Condition Since Mr. Müller stays in Thailand for more than 180 days a year, he is considered a resident and must comply with these tax regulations. Filing Requirements Despite his pension being exempt from additional Thai taxes, Mr. Müller must still file Form 90 by March 31, 2025, to report his income and any applicable deductions. Maintaining detailed records of all income sources and transfers will facilitate this process. Victor Wong (Peerasan Wongsri) Financial Analyst and Tax Expert Tel: 062 879 5414 Email: victorlawpattaya@gmail.com For additional insights and the original article discussing expat legal concerns in Pattaya, click here: Pattaya lawyer homes in on expat concerns https://www.pattayamail.com/latestnews/news/new-tax-rules-for-foreign-sourced-income-464735 ======= The emerging scenarios: Thai expats and income tax By Barry Kenyon Countless foreign tax residents of Thailand daily search the internet for answers, but ignorance is not bliss. How does the Department of Thai Revenue (DTR) rule to tax remitted income from overseas from the start of 2024 affect me? Do I need to fill in a Thai tax form in the new year 2025 even if I think I do not have assessable income in 2024? How can I obey the tax laws if I can’t find out what they are? Will I be arrested? Meanwhile, the DTR remains inscrutable as the relentless calendar year passes the half-way mark. To address the void, various scenarios are springing up on the internet and at webinars or meetings of various kinds. Mike Lister, a widely-respected and “advanced member” of the Asean Now popular forum on the subject, has suggested in a personal capacity that the remitted tax rule will be introduced softly at first. Overstretched DTR officials will concentrate on the big fish with large and untaxed remitted income and will leave largely unscathed the little fish such as run-of-the-mill pensioners (unless they are spotlighted for some reason). If true, it could take several years of semi-implementation before every foreign tax resident is the glum recipient of a tax identification number and the provider of a multi-page, completed PND 90 tax form. The downside of this view is that typical expats may spend the next few years still muddled and fearful about their personal futures. Incidentally, the PND 90 tax form is available in English contrary to some social media warriors, although reports say it will anyway be altered soon. Another reason for waiting. To address the void, various scenarios are springing up on the internet and at webinars or meetings of various kinds. Mike Lister, a widely-respected and “advanced member” of the Asean Now popular forum on the subject, has suggested in a personal capacity that the remitted tax rule will be introduced softly at first. Overstretched DTR officials will concentrate on the big fish with large and untaxed remitted income and will leave largely unscathed the little fish such as run-of-the-mill pensioners (unless they are spotlighted for some reason). If true, it could take several years of semi-implementation before every foreign tax resident is the glum recipient of a tax identification number and the provider of a multi-page, completed PND 90 tax form. The downside of this view is that typical expats may spend the next few years still muddled and fearful about their personal futures. Incidentally, the PND 90 tax form is available in English contrary to some social media warriors, although reports say it will anyway be altered soon. Another reason for waiting. To address the void, various scenarios are springing up on the internet and at webinars or meetings of various kinds. Mike Lister, a widely-respected and “advanced member” of the Asean Now popular forum on the subject, has suggested in a personal capacity that the remitted tax rule will be introduced softly at first. Overstretched DTR officials will concentrate on the big fish with large and untaxed remitted income and will leave largely unscathed the little fish such as run-of-the-mill pensioners (unless they are spotlighted for some reason). If true, it could take several years of semi-implementation before every foreign tax resident is the glum recipient of a tax identification number and the provider of a multi-page, completed PND 90 tax form. The downside of this view is that typical expats may spend the next few years still muddled and fearful about their personal futures. Incidentally, the PND 90 tax form is available in English contrary to some social media warriors, although reports say it will anyway be altered soon. Another reason for waiting. Another softish approach to DTR was provided in a recent Pattaya Mail article by financial analyst and tax expert Victor Wong. He gave a lot of common-sense advice, such as keeping all your financial documentation in good order and – very importantly – emphasizing that submitting tax forms does not necessarily mean you have anything extra to pay. He also committed himself to the view that, because of double taxation treaties, elderly foreign residents here would not pay more cash in Thailand on previously taxed pensions. Hopefully, this broad interpretation of double taxation treaties will stand the test of time. It should, however, be noted that the 61 international agreements with Thailand are far from unanimous in scope. For example, the US one insists that social security payments may only be paid in America, whereas the British equivalent covers only “government” pensions and also excludes the state or old-age pension. Moreover, some analysists maintain that double taxation treaties may only give limited cover because exempt income allowances may be more generous abroad than in The Land of Smiles. Thus the international agreement may only give a tax credit for Thailand rather than total immunity here. All commentators agree that there are so many unanswered questions. Even an obvious matter such as whether use of a foreign (non-Thai) credit card is remitted income, in whole or in part, is the subject of blistering debate on social media. There is also much nonsense out there such as the claim expats will be taxed by Thai banks a uniform 35 percent on foreign remittances or that annual extensions of stay in some immigration offices already require proof of a Thai tax identification number. Like the tale that Adolf Hitler escaped Berlin and retired to a relaxing hill resort in Paraguay, such tales are best regarded as click bait.

here's you own answer :

And here I am, sitting in grey London , counting the hours to my arrival in Bangkok (approximately 200 of them, if you want to know) and bemoaning the sheer ordinariness of my life and the absence of handsome guys smiling winsomely at me: one in particular. And much else that I am too shy to mention. A word of advice to O.D. which he is free to take or ignore; we usually don't know how much we enjoy things until they're over.

Bit over a week to go now and looking forward to getting away from this bloody circus for a spell even if my activities will be a bit restricted, my activities in Bangkok are now reduced to Plan B as I have the first of two medical procedures shortly after my return. That first one is the easy one but next year will bring a bastard of an operation that I was hoping to avoid, such is life I guess but at least I will be doing my best to enjoy this trip, just not sure when the next will be but if possible I may try to sneak a week over before the op.

From Pattaya News On October 29th, 2024, Thailand’s Department of Special Investigation (DSI), alongside the Immigration Bureau and relevant agencies, executed coordinated raids on 11 locations in Bangkok, Nakhon Pathom, and Pattaya. This sweeping operation comes in response to online gambling networks infiltrating government websites and altering their data pathways to redirect users to gambling platforms. Initial investigations revealed that gambling operators had targeted 23 government agency websites. The DSI, in cooperation with the National Cyber Security Agency (NCSA), traced these cyber intrusions, identifying unauthorized folders and files embedded within government websites. These files diverted visitors to gambling sites, boosting the sites’ visibility on Google and drawing unsuspecting visitors. As part of the operation, authorities seized over 100 bank accounts, with annual funds exceeding 20 billion baht, along with cryptocurrency accounts, computers, digital wallets, and mobile devices, according to the officers. https://thepattayanews.com/2024/10/31/thai-authorities-raid-three-provinces-including-chonburi-to-disrupt-massive-cyber-attack-by-gambling-sites/

I went to this Heavens today 2pm to 430pm It was 5 minutes walk from my hotel It's in a office building,level 4 Nice lady at reception she told me she is the part owner 27 years it has been there she said Anyway nice staff ,they have a good gym with all machines Big crowd,mixed with 2 old Aussie guys ,a indian guy and about 10 old Thai guys and 2 very obese young Chinese boys Never got lucky unfortunately the old Thai guys were treating it more as a weekly social club where they sat talking to each other and ignoring farang and that probably because we were all same age But it was enjoyable,200b well spent

Correction, not wanting to be pedantic, but it was a CheeseSteak with pickles and tomatoes, big difference.

Good times for mediocre tax advisors! Save some tax, pay it to the tax advisor instead. I love the clarity of Thai tax rules! If the implementation takes as long as issuing citizenship to Myanmar refugees, i.e. estimated 44 years, then there is nothing to fear!

Olddaddy, you just posted elsewhere that you’re bored in Bangkok. How many of the shops on Soi 6 or Surawong did you pass by without treating your self to massage. Would I be wrong in thinking all of them?

Arrived in Fortaleza two days ago and needed a while to,get over the jet lag. Today we went to Dragon sauna at maybe 5:00 pm - not many guests there but a few GP‘s where already there. A very nice muscled guy came up to us and with the help of translation via mobile phone he introduced himself as Bruno, coming from Maranho and now living in Fortaleza - it all led to some very nice fun in a suite at the dragon sauna. We left the place at maybe 7:00 pm to walk back again to our hotel with a stop at one of the new barracas on the beachwalk - the new beachwalk (opened in may 2022) is a perfect surrounding for the city. In the evening it becomes very crowded and a lot of half naked cyclists and runners are nice eye candies… maybe tomorrow we will visit California sauna…

oh , you both are on diet , I see Thank you for great report and you guys make sure to have fun

Crazy eyes, lol We didn't go that far in so we could make the 11pm show at x-boys.....there's only so much marching we can do after the cheesesteaks, plus I'm a bottom, so winner wouldn't have had anything for me, I'm selfish 🤷‍♂️ If I've learned anything from @TotallyOz is don't give up, become a stalker until they give in 😇 But no match for a full unopened can of coke, took them by surprise on that one 😆

Tell that to straight men especially in conservative societies. To get pussy, they have to commit to lifelong marriage.

Relax , I have it on very good authority- one of our members who rarely contributes here but used their services recently more than once, that if you tell them you foreigner they will easily let you to give massage fee to the boy. One of 5 hotels they offer is Suriwongse Hotel , one right by Moonlight bar. From what I know boys may be willing to come to your room instead if your hotel is nearby.

You did right thing. As soon as I noticed that long commute starts eating too much of my precious time and becomes too tiring I did the same even if I loved my job , my clients and knew it will be blow to my finances. Now I pass my former office and don't even look up to see my former window. And as a bonus I know that my job and desk went to somebody who just lost another job so win-win situation

I promise to give said trip report in December. I truly appreciate all of your concerns and friendly valid recommendations. But, we need to remember that I am leaving Thailand in 2025 for more than 180 days to avoid the new Thai tax problem. So, I want to conclude my medical work plan with my known doctors here in Pattaya, instead of having to try to find doctors in The Philippines and Vietnam - when in these 2 countries I want to fulfill my objectives of: know that I already found the right solution for my dick problem, minimize my potential Thailand tax bill, determine if Jomtien is the proper place for me to continue to live for my retirement years, see if another retirement place like Jomtien (high rise condo living on the sea) exists in either The Philippines or Vietnam. So, I can squeeze a trip to BKK and JJ in December before I depart for The Philippines. p.s. I am truly sorry to hear that your best friend did not get to fulfill his dream to sail around the Mediterranean. Please note that I took early retirement with a reduced pension from my former job because I knew that the stress from that job was going to either kill me or cause me to have permanent health damage - so, I left and I moved to Thailand.

my numbers as I have few comments 1/ I rarely talk even to my own doctor. 2/ we work that hard to have that bright future and when she arrives it turns out full of doctor appointments, worries about hanging dick or tits reaching the knees as well as low interest rates and looming, perish the thought repeat Trump presidency owing to idiocy of American voters. I rather have nice today than such ' bright ' future 3/ as somebody wise noticed ( thus obviously not me ) , longer we wait for that tomorrow , shorter it will be. as tomorrow I'm flying out to attend my best friend funeral whose life long dream was to sail around Mediterranean but it always was put away because of rain , shine, winter, summer, dog to walk, flowers to water and so on when I hear " tomorrow" , I shiver 4/ PFC=Pattaya Flying Club, we already had recently SK read as South Korea instead of Saphan Kwai I decided to clear the water 5/ as conclusion , book an appointment with desired JJ ASAP, cancel, all those tortures, go to Bkk for THAT AND ONLY important appointment and upon returning home please report your findings here.

I met a guy at Chance Shin-Okubo. Their apartment was decent. Unfortunately chemistry was lacking with the guy I selected. Everything was prearranged via email so I don't know if it qualifies as a "brothel" exactly. This guy spoke no English and I speak no Japanese. But the international language of love is the same. As I mentioned in the other thread I met a very sweet guy from Topboy. He spoke English well. Generally I think there's no issue with foreigners or age. They're providing a service to older men in general. Some of them do say that the guy can refuse anal if you're too big. I'm in Osaka at the moment. Met a totally sweet boy from DG last night. Their place was easy to find. I think they qualify more as a traditional brothel. You can apparently walk in and choose an available guy. But I prebooked. He was exactly what I was looking for. Totally adorable little guy. Very cuddly. We spent our full 90 minutes together. Overall I'm enjoying Osaka more than Tokyo. It's got a more laid back vibe and it just seems more manageable. Lots of narrow, one way streets. It feels more youthful and a little but grungy. I was in Kyoto for a couple of days. Lots of students there so I suppose you might be able to meet some one on an app. I think I will plan to spend more time in Kyoto and Osaka next time. Sadly the weather was not great the past couple of weeks.

Floridabob's mention of Joe, the papasan whom he met recently and who said he'd been around for twenty years, is one of many guys who made a living in Boyztown for decades. Who recalls "Tiger", a fixture on the periphery of the scene and who is mentioned in MIchael Burchill's history of Boyztown? A go go boy in the late eighties and still around six or so years ago. Sadly, he passed away. And there were a couple of guys whom I offed when I was a butterfly and who were still working in Boyztown only a few years ago. It is amazing how some Thai guys keep their looks. As for Joe, yes, I know him. He was a waiter in P's bar in 2004, always taking a keen interest in our developing relationship.The last time I saw him was a few years ago in a short-lived bar opposite Toyboys. I can't recall its name....Prism? Boyztown has been a world unto itself since the 1980s. There are many stories that began there, some happy such as mine, others sad, particularly during the years when Hiv was more prevalent than it is today. And that's before we start considering the bar-owners themselves- Jim from BBB, Kevin from Throb. Any other Boyztown characters that deserve a mention?

Soon would be an exaggeration but i am working on it yes.

If I missed it , I'd feel depressed as well

You’re more likely to fall into black hole on way to church than getting bored in Bangkok.

What???? Is that even theoretically possible ?

Happy Halloween!

Go to the new host bar that opened on Patpong 2. It’s designed for lonely gay men who need someone to talk to. Invite any of staff to sit with you and buy them a beer. or are you intending to take most boring member title away from Vinapu.

@MaxBKK Thanks for this advice. I have already met with 2 different tax experts located here in Thailand, and in my personal situation, it made most prudent fiscal sense for me to: 1.) Leave Thailand for > 180 days in tax year 2025 to avoid being deemed a tax resident and to top-up my Thai bank account in 2025 for my 2025 and 2026 living expenses, 2.) As a result of step 1, I can live in Thailand for all of year 2026 without any assessable income to declare, 3.) Repeat this 2 year alternating cycle until I can qualify for the BOI Wealthy Pensioner visa, which exempts you from having to pay income tax. However, the requirement for this type of visa is to have had $80,000 USD of passive income verifiable in 2 prior years of your home country tax returns. I will only meet this threshold at age 67 (I am now 63) when I will start to collect social security + 2 years = age 69. So I will need to repeat the above steps 1 +2, for 3 cycles = 6 years. Who knows, maybe I will find a place in a different country that is more beautiful in a high rise condo right on the sea with stunning views like I already have here in Jomtien. I am up for this exciting challenge and I thank the Thai government for forcing me to do it. p.s. for this year 2024, I already topped up my Thai bank account at the end of year 2023, when the Thai Revenue Department issued its Order No. Por. 161/2023 re: Payment of Income Tax under Section 41, Paragraph 2, of the Revenue Code dated 15th September 2023 to set up a new rule on payment of the personal income tax from overseas income, which came into force from 1st January 2024.

The Thai Revenue Department has indicated that all savings from abroad prior to January 1 2024 are exempt from consideration of tax. Some (current year) pension income is also exempt depending on dual taxation treaties. Many retired expats will not have enough assessable income to owe taxes. Some will have assessable income below the threshold required to file a tax return (120K THB). There are several legal firms offering free 30 minute VDO consults in which they will assess your situation. This might be worthwhile information to have as you compare retirement locations around South East Asia.

Think your problem coming into focus. You began 7 of 10 paragraphs above with “I” word.

I was told he retired to a seaside beach resort in Laos

They were only 6 inches, so large by Asian standards.

US banks and New York ultimately admitted he is unprincipled, but to address @Suckrates, how King Baby gets away with holding rallys where he promises to fix everything, it is his followers, like the couple from Omaha on CNN, or the healthcare worker from Ohio interviewed by NYT, that are being fooled. They do not focus on news of his faults. They are low information voters unaware of the facts. Yes Trump is a lying, rapist, felon, but perhaps it's the historically unprincipled nature of GOP politics that Trump has taken to the next level. Bush got it wrong. You can fool them again.... and again and again.

Well, if DJT's price really is an indicator of Trump's electability - and I have no reason to doubt it - then Trump is 22% less electable today than he was yesterday. And after-hours trading shows he's another 5% less electable than at the market close. Based on today's valuation, Trump Media is worth $8 billion. I was surprised to learn that Musk's X now has an estimated market cap of only $9 billion, down 80% from the $44 billion he paid for Twitter. I don't know what either company would actually sell for, but I continue to believe that Trump's best bet would be to unload find a buyer for Trump Media and the ideal pigeon candidate would seem to be Musk. Perhaps they're waiting until after the election when Trump could be President and Musk could be the Secretary of Efficiency. If they could do for the GDP what they've done for their media companies, they could solve immigration too. We'd have millions of folks lined up at the borders waiting to get out.

There are 19 of them, hence the name.....

Met up with @floridarob at Ambience this evening. As he mentioned previously bit of building works going on next to reception, had a quick guided tour and looks a nice clean and budget friendly location. Headed to Nano's CheeseSteaks and Burgers in Soi LK Pavilion for some pre alcohol soakage. Both had CheeseSteaks, first one I've ever had, and would definitely recommend. All freshly made on the premises, beef is Australian Ribeye. Next headed across to Nice Boys, 20 boys on offer according to the Mamasan, however only counted 9! One other customer present sandwiched by two boys, so 7 on stage trying to grab our attention, despite video (mobile) and White-Sachet stimulation, none rose to the occasion. Sizes on the Thai average scale, with one obvious silicon job, certainly nothing to write home about from my opinion. Bit of an international crowd whilst we were there, couple of Japanese, 1 Korean and 3 European types came and went. Spent our time giving descriptive names to the boys on stage to help pass the time. Weird eyes was @floridarob's favourite, however complete lack of hardness and power, despite some chemical stimulation, curtailed any possible encounter so forced us to head over to XBoys to catch the 23:00 show. Arrived just as the show started to a packed house, with the only seats left being on the front row at the shower end. The MC kept the commentary in English due to the type clientele present. Sound system needs some work, as was mostly distortion. Found the show more entertaining than over at XBoys or when I was at DJ Station in Silom a couple of weeks ago. Simulated anal, breakdancing, a singing Diva (actually miming), hard dick bongo playing, big dick mini golf, dancing, massage of Top became Bottom, big dick parade, Who's the Thai father, mutual shower and actual anal. Plenty to entertain everyone. For 300THB and a drink, excellent value for money. Stayed put after the show drinking and talking, which got the boys on stage all excited, to the point they put on a private display trying for our effection. Me colleague inquired into one of the dancers, however what followed bordered on comical in terms of excuses. Sorry he's taking a shower, sorry he's on the phone to Bangkok, sorry he's busy, sorry he's speaking to someone. All that was missing was, Sorry he's had to rush home as his Water Buffalo is sick. Turns out he's the only one who's not offerable. One of the waiter staff took a fancy to my packet of snouts, so went outside and sat on the benches for a cough & a drag and whiled away a good hour and a half talking and being entertained by the boys on their breaks. Definitely a place to revisit. Got the Line of the waiter for the future. A cracking good fun and enjoyable evening. Thanks @floridarob.

How can WE elect a President that vows to be President for ONLY half of American citizens ? Trumps declarations that he will only be President for those people that SUPPORT and fawn over him, while rejecting anyone that has a negative view or opinion of him. He doesnt care about anyone, but especially his non-supporters, who he has alluded will face his wrath by either investigation or imprisonment for negative comments, press or posts..... So how can he hold rallys and press conferences where he expresses that he will "fix everything for everyone", but actually only speak to half the country ? This is acceptable behavior for the leader of the free world, and noone blinks an eye ? Will the American people SAVE our Democracy or let it dissolve into Trump mania ? Dont FEAR Trump, VOTE to prevent him from stealing our country and endangering our Liberty.

who cares? more like trying to take over whole soi Boys in all three shops are handsome and word is, everyone has a cock

hahaha Dr. Vinapu hasn't spoken to my medical doctor. If you want a properly working dick after working a job for too many years that stressed me out to no end where I totally ignored to take care of my body, lost control of my left eye, and with very high blood pressure - my cock stopped working. So, the sacrifice that I make today is so that I can have many JJs tomorrow :>)) And that is an sacrifice (following doctor's orders) that I am willing to make :>)) Because a retirement without good sex would cause me to join the PFC .....

too bad nobody invites me , lol

I'd give him easily 150%, he got all he wanted but also made sure I got what I liked. Not greedy and not rushy. If he stays that way he can dump on me all verbal abuse he wants ,specially that he is right, lol

Older guy here in 60s. From US. White (if that matters). Planning a second trip to Japan next may. I have used independence before and was happy with the experience. Itinerary: Hiroshima - Osaka - Kyoto - Tokyo. Lots of choices in Tokyo, will use Independence again, but want to try a second on also Osaka seem to have a few choices so if anyone has experience there would love to know Hiroshima and Kyoto, I can't find anything on google. Only some nice onseens. So that be eye candy only. So I just need to know do these brothels accept foreigners and is age an issue? I know that bars in Tokyo are insanely restrictive.

@reader how ironic. I learned what the word "fluffer" meant when I went to the Gay Games that were held in Amsterdam in 1998 - my first trip ever to Europe to support Team Colorado. Afterwards, I toured Europe, with a stop in Prague, at the famous bar = DRAKE (then owned my William Higgins). It was at DRAKE that you could "rent" a room where your chosen famous porn star would join you in said room, after paying the bartender the then equivalent $100 USD for 1 hour. I was so young and horny back then that I already shot my load within 10 minutes with this super sexy Czech porn star. He said to me, what do you want to do for the remaining 50 minutes? I said, please let me interview you (as I had secret desires to also be in the porn industry). He told me a story of envy about when they had to make porn films with American porn stars --> in that said USA porn stars came equipped with their personal "fluffers". The European porn industry had no such equivalent - they had to make themselves hard via self masturbation. I replied - what is a fluffer? He said the sexy guy who will drop to his knees to blow the porn star before he needs to go onto the set to perform. In that moment I knew what role that I wanted in the porn industry --> but unfortunately, @reader was always on his knees before I could even start to kneel down 😪😢

Today by chance I found this a spot on You Tube which may be of interest of fans of Former Madrid Tavern in Patpong ( now in Charoen Krung soi 49) as there are substantial parts devoted to bar's history including an interview with Jenny , daughter of original owner, who is familiar face to those visiting Madrid in it's new location is soi 49

I am traveling regularly to Egypt for business. I am lucky since I am a fan of middle east men. Wherever you go in Cairo, there are so many men flirting with you, but so difficult to make closer contact. But there is a great place to connect with arab men and get a happy ending! The elevator in 5 star hotels! I have met so many men from Saudi Arabia,Kuwait, Sudan, Oman etc in the elevators The first question is always ¨where are you from¨? Then they touch the crotch, you smile and two minutes later they are making you happy in your room... Great experiences!

So, I'm staying in Shinjuku at the moment. While out wandering around it's impossible not to notice all of the billboards for all of the host clubs with pretty made-up boys. You also see them walking around the street in addition to all of the girls who are all dressed up. I am intrigued but I don't know if they are for women or men. And I suspect they're mostly an operation to separate you from as much of your money for the least amount of work as possible. But I wondered if any of you have experience with these places. Obviously the agencies full of escorts are easy enough and plentiful. So I presume these host clubs are for a different sort of clientele. There seems to be a lot of prostitution in this town. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

And clean!

Is it mind over matter?, no it is more a case of what matters to you at different stages in your life. Not every sexual encounter has to finish with a climax (just ask any woman! hahaha). And certainly not at my age. The fun for me is in the sexual encounter itself; in its intimacy, the foreplay, usually, but not always, penetration. For me, if my partner cums that is a win for me; if I cum it is a bonus. Now at 70 I manage my expectations; as long as I enjoy the journey I don't worry too much if I don't arrive at the destination every trip. When I first started coming to Pattaya in my 50s, my expectations (of myself in particular) were a lot higher, but that was then, this is now. At my age, for example, threesomes help. I can be as involved as I want to be, or can manage to be, and then the other two can go-at-it like rabbits until they too have had enough. My holidays have nothing to do with trying to impress my peers, they are entirely about me enjoying myself as best I can, and that, year by year, is proving an evolving ambition.

That was my first night... on the 2nd night i had a boy from Chance Osaka... dang the boy i had can pass a K-POP group... borderline submissive and sweet, he told me i'm good looking (just like the boys in thailand) haha. the 3rd night i tried a boy from Urisen-Next.... what a sweet heart.. the first round ended with some 20 minutes left, he was just there hugging me, then he started kissing me again and stroked me.. cummed the 2nd time... now i want to go back! haha actually the boy from Chance Osaka and Urisen Next when they masturbated to cum they actually they actually looked at me in the eye, stare at my lips, my neck back to my eyes... that's what i do when i find the guy attractive... so maybe (just maybe) i'm not so bad after all...

I'm so happy to be able to complete this trip report (albeit the delay) as promised! ------------------- Come evening, I decided to try my luck with a two-hour session at Prime Massage. Fortunately, I only had to wait about 10 minutes. They directed me to their other location, just a few steps away. This time, I was greeted by a particularly cute masseur. To avoid any unnecessary trouble, I took a cold shower beforehand—I had every intention of not getting myself banned from such a good massage spot. Lol. Dinner followed at Foodland, and that’s when I realized I haven’t visited Jupiter yet. Now, it’s not that I’m a fan of their boys sporting their 'constipated model' looks, but I always make it a point to spread the love by visiting each bar at least once during my trips. After dinner and some people-watching at my usual Starbucks (Montien), I made my way toward Jupiter, reminding myself that I have to choose between and invite either 7 or Nine afterwards. When I arrived, the show was just starting, and the models were parading around. To my utter surprise, I counted four or five of them actually making eye contact and giving me proper, engaging smiles. While some stuck to the 'constipated model' brief, these five melted my heart. I almost orgasmed on the spot! Lucky for me, three out of the five were "offable" by my standards. The show kicked off with an adorable guy singing Ed Sheeran and some R&B covers. I found him utterly charming, though not in a sexual, offable way. I called over a waiter and asked him to deliver my tip. Cutie singer smiled and waved, and I waved back. After his set, as he was leaving, he passed by, shook my hand, and flashed that cute smile again. I absentmindedly watched the rest of the show. By now, the place was packed, and the mamasans weren't pushing too hard to sell time with the boys—there wasn't even space to sit! Once the show ended and the crowd thinned out, the boys returned with their numbers pinned on, working the stage. I spotted two of my earlier smiling guys, still available, so I wasted no time summoning the first one to make eye contact again. His name is Sun. As his drink arrived, we started chatting, covering the usual questions. A mamasan tried to be "helpful" but with my experience at Screwboys, I politely smiled and said, “Thanks, but I’ve got it. Not my first time.” He promptly vanished and moved on to another table. With the vibe check going well, and all details sorted (time commitment, expectations, and finances), Sun and I left the club, grabbed some snacks from 7-11, and headed back to my hotel. The night—and the following morning—were great. We had a good laugh when he climaxed, unloading buckets. He shyly explained he hadn't been offed in a week, so it had been building up. As we lay cuddled together, I couldn't help but reflect on the unexpected turn of events. Here I was, cuddling with a Jupiter boy! Quite the change from my original plan. And a first since ages ago! The last time I offed someone from Jupiter was when they were at their old location. Maybe the universe had a different plan for me for my last nit. Perhaps I need to open my mind a bit more about Jupiter on my next trip!

After a successful venture at Arena, I spent the rest of the afternoon and early evening recharging with a good snooze and a glass of wine. However, when the temptation to get out and about became unbearable, I marched towards Surawong for a foot massage and to indulge in my favorite sport—people-watching. Around half past nine, I made my way to Good Boy. Perfect timing, as a few customers were already inside, sparing me the awkwardness of having everyone on stage vying for my attention. Scanning the room, I noticed that both 7 and 42 were present tonight. Now, it was just a matter of making the right choice between the two. As soon as the Papasan saw me, he promptly sat next to me, and we engaged in our usual chitchat. Interestingly, this is the only bar where I’ve ever been asked if I’ve had dinner! While still wavering between 7 and 42, 7 caught my eye and grinned mischievously, making my heart flutter just enough to summon him to sit beside me. 7 is from Laos, and his English isn’t the best, considering he only started working in bars this past April. But there's something so engaging about his persona that the language barrier hardly mattered. Either that, or he’s so good-looking that I was just giddy having him next to me. As the show began, we continued our conversation using a translator app. Oddly, the app kept translating "Top" as "complainer," which we both found amusing. I shrugged it off, and we agreed to let him “complain” on me tonight—and maybe tomorrow morning too. After 7 went to get dressed, I watched the show, eagerly awaiting Mai's performance. He’s such a handsome lad, and I would’ve "offed" him if given the chance. Unfortunately, I was told he’s not offable, as his partner works at the bar manning the counter. After Mai's performance, 7 and I headed out to the street. I asked where he wanted to eat, and he gave the standard "up to you." We took a taxi back to the hotel, and once in the room, I handed him my phone and asked him to order food for both of us. We showered together, and just as we finished, our food arrived—perfect timing. After dinner, I handed him the TV remote, offering him the chance to watch something. We cuddled up for a good half-hour before he shyly suggested going to bed—a suggestion I didn’t resist. In bed, he turned out to be a surprisingly passionate kisser. He took his time before "complaining" on me, which I thoroughly enjoyed. After we cleaned up, we stayed up chatting, watching silly videos on his phone, laughing together, and looking at photos of his family. We fell asleep cuddling, with me wearing a huge grin. Lucky 7, indeed!