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hi guys.. i am ash.. from INDIA. This is my 4th visit to pattaya and 1st time i came alone here to explore more naughty things. I reached BKK airport at 9.30am on 25th october. as there is no visa policy for INDIANS just done direct immigration and came out. Grab taxi cost me 1500 thai baht to pattaya Sunshine hotel. Sunshine hotel is cheap( 750 babt per day for total 4 days) and best for solo travel. They given me room at 2pm afternoon even though check in time is at 3pm. 25-10-2024 Day 1 - I went to Helios men .. the best for me {[( 2017 i went once , 2019 i went once , then 2023 march i went once)]} helios never disappointed me. I always take foam massage because massage less fun part more. the boys here are very co-operative massage cost - 600 min tip to boy -- 1000 I met the guy name Tree. he is medium to gym build. I dont like six packs or heavy built guys.he is best he told me to take shower and left for 2-3min , after shower he came and given back rub and we did alot of fun.. kissing hugging i did massage to him as well ofcourse he did massage to me.. 69 we did.. i fucked him little because just fucking is not my cup of tea i like passionate romance alot. I am versa top ( sorry if someone felt bad that i explained little more about what happened at Helios. I paid him extra 1000baht to him because he did his best. I took his whatsapp number and asked him to come with me for Xboys night 10pm and 11pm show because i never went to any gogoboys bar. he came at 9.30pm and we went inside Xboyz. Xboyz show was mind blowing.. full of cocks. I thought to take back the same massage guy who i met helios thats the reason i told him to come with me. Xboys pattaya at 9.50pm show cost - 300baht including drink I like 1 guy age 25yrs and finally talked to someguy who is operating this show.. initially told 800 is off fee and boy told 2800 his fees. then i told no. but operating guy finally told to take the guy for total 2500 without off fees or 500 off fees and 2000 for Short time(ST) both are same haha. I offered 2 drinks for him.. he is very co-operative.. and operating guy took my hand from boys shoulder and told me to catch boys cock.. and i did that he is very comfortable and rest his head on my shoulder. The guy name tree who came with me since 9.45pm he is just laughing with me as i ditched him and taking back new guy in positive way. I told Mr. tree guy clearly .. if i dont like anyone then u come to my room i pay 1500 baht as u fixed the price if not i will take u to my room some day in 4 days visit here for sure. Mr.tree is co-operative and helped me to talk with boy and decrease the money by bargain as well. finally i given Mr-Tree 500 baht and 300 drink for him and he is happy too. Me and the new boy from Xboyz went to my hotel room and enjoyed under hot shower. he is very soft and medium tight body. I licked his entire body all parts almost did romance for 1hr 30min. i went to Indian restaurant and ate he left after the fun. He is top and i am too so except fuck we did everything. Xboys pattaya show is the best full of nudity and timepass. I loved it. at 3.30am i slept till next day 11am. If this content helpful and to give some suggestions plz do comment and will continue my rest of journey for 4 days.

This is an update to this 2022 trip report to Koh Larn from the Pattaya Bali Hai pier - because the Pattaya City (mayor) decided to implement a new speedboat departure system, which I experienced today, 26 Oct 2024. https://www.pattayamail.com/news/pattaya-mayor-vows-to-end-aggressive-practices-at-bali-hai-pier-472979 Prior to now, you went to individual speedboat vendor booths to buy your ticket to Koh Larn - to the left of the pier (when facing the sea harbor) as shown in the below photo: Contrary to what was reported by the Pattaya mayor, I NEVER found this system to be aggressive. I knew which speedboat company I preferred and I walked up to that individual ticket booth and bought my ticket from my favorite ladyboy ticket seller at the AM booth. Simple and easy. One of their guides would walk us onto the Bali Hai pier where their designated speedboat was departing from. Now the Pattaya City had this not so great idea to terminate all of these individual speedboat ticket booths to just 2 ticket booths that are situated at the beginning of the Bali Hai pier - see below photo that I took today: What the city has done is to divide Koh Larn into 2 sectors - Tawaen beach (side opposite of Pattaya city) and Na Baan (side facing Pattaya city). In the past, I always bought my ticket from the AM speedboat ticket booth for the Tawaen destination and I paid 150 baht each way or 300 baht if I wanted to return from Tawaen - often I returned from Na Baan - as the return times back to Pattaya city are more flexible. Well, this morning I got in the queue and I asked for a ticket to Tawaen and I was told that due to the choppy sea that they can only bring me to Nual Beach (aka Monkey Beach) for 500 baht. I don't like Nual Beach as it is not nice in my opinion. I asked why is it so expensive and the girl at the ticket booth told me that it is always 500 baht. I told her that I live in Pattaya now since 2 years and I have NEVER paid 500 baht to go to the non-Pattaya city facing side of the island. She replied to me, well my father is the boat captain - do you want to speak to him. I said NO - and I then asked her what are my other options to get onto Koh Larn? By now I was angry, as the Pattaya City has made a mess by demanding the demolition of the former decentralized ticketing system to this now centralized ticketing system. The girl told me that i can take the normal slow ferry to Na Baan OR she pointed to another ticket booth where they were selling speedboat tickets to Na Baan - the main village on Koh Larn. So, I bought a 150 baht speedboat ticket for Na Baan and we were then led by our assigned guide onto the Bali Hai pier floating launch that was super packed as there were other tour groups already on the floating pier - total chaos, confusion, and people being jostled by the up and down of the waves. When the system was decentralized, the individual boat company took care to obtain their own unique launch pier to avoid the chaos that comes when you put too many groups onto the same floating launch pier - a consequence of this badly implemented centralized system. In my opinion, it is just a mater of time before a tourist is hurt by this chaos and then to protect the sacred image of pristine Pattaya - they will order the centralized ticketing system to be demolished and we go back to the safer decentralized individual boat companies that saw to take care of you the customer. When I arrived into the main Na Baan village, I rented a motorbike so that I could cross over the island onto my favorite side. My first stop was for my favorite banana creme cake with an iced cappuccino at the wonderful Cher Aim Cafe & Resort situated on Tawaen beach. I will admit, the ride over on the speedboat was very choppy and 90% of the passengers were Asians and some of them opened their umbrellas inside the speedboat to try to avoid some of the splashes that were entering into the boat from the waves. All was good - as I am almost always impressed how the Thai boat drivers magically navigate their boats in any kind of weather. Then after by banana creme cake (don't tell my gym trainer - I can already hear her yelling - I cannot control what you put into your mouth - if she only knew - hahahha) I then drove the motorbike over the most difficult but exhilarating hill on Koh Larn down into my MOST favorite beach = Tien beach. Life is good on Tien Beach --> note that back in Pattaya there has been trash found on the local city beaches due to all of the recent storms - but over here on Koh Larn - no trash - just beautiful clean transparent turquoise water with fluffy white powder sand. The ride back to Pattaya City from Na Baan was uneventful because by now the morning choppiness had disappeared and the 8 km of sea between Koh Larn and Pattaya City was tranquil = all was good.

India has been on my bucket list for a long time, but never had the chance, or good flights to do so. While looking for award business flights to BKK/Indonesia/Manila and seeing limited to zero availability for anything decent, I thought, let me check India 🤔 I found Bos-Ist-Dxb-Ccu... Turkish connection to Emirates and Emirates, for 88K United miles- JACKPOT!! Everything else I found from USA (almost any city) to Bkk was 200k+ miles....up to 500k, ridiculous. So that was the start of the planning stage that has lead to me booking a 8 week away from home (6 weeks in Asia) trip. Turkish is one of my favorite airlines and was my 1st time on Emirates..... because of a typhoon in Calcutta, they airport was closed and Emirates delayed their flight by an additional 8 hrs, so 12 hrs in Dubai. So they have me a chauffeured BMW to/from airport and a Marriott Marquis Dubai room, to which the front office manager upgraded me to a suite, because she was from Jakarta and was impressed/happy that I was a lover of Indonesians (I'm sure she knew the men, lol) I never had plans of visiting Dubai, but this 12 hr layover has given me 2nd thoughts....so much action on the apps, but I was too tired to do anything more than look/chat. Kolkata is a good arrival airport I guess, very easy and not CRAZY like Delhi or Bombay as I was told, plus less than a 2 hr flight to BK afterwards. I'd been talking to several guys on X, Blued, Grindr before my arrival to find out some info....not many profiles pics and was a pain in the ass to filter out flakes. I stayed in contact with a guy that spoke English well and wasn't a money boy that likes "old" guys....wasn't very flattering, but 40's-50's was his definition of old, lol....so a compliment too???? 1st night went really well, we had very hot sex...but it became apparent that he wasn't a drinker, anyone that knows me , knows I like to have a few drinks, lol I stayed at the Lalit Great Eastern Hotel and is VERY gay friendly...I later found out that they have drag queen story book hour and my 2nd night a gay community Halloween party, which was so much fun, My Indian friends said I'd be popular because I'm a white foreigner, which I assumed because it's happened in so many places. I wasn't prepared to what extent here....I felt like I was a movie star, Tom Cruise or Harrison Ford, age didn't matter...was amazing yet weird... I was the exotic guy in the bar, lol So, the non-drinker guy tried to keep up with me, which didn't end well for either of us...him vomiting in the bushes, sleeping on the bathroom floor and me in bed alone typing this trip report 😂 I met a guy, a little thicker (chunky) than I like, but very manly and my type otherwise.....we have plans for tomorrow, will see how it goes. These pics are from the party and bushes, to give you an idea how it was....I've been planning my March trips, waiting to see how I liked India, I will include other cities in the itinerary in the south of India, as they aren't as hairy as the north, I'm told.

Guess I'll add on to to this since I am one of the ones who regularly gets these "bottle service"... I tend to travel to Bangkok with a bunch of other friends from other countries. So there are multiple of us. It's actually more cost effective for us to get a bottle rather than for each of us to get our own drink. Of course, each club has their own policy. For example, each person would have to pay 550/600 Baht per entry at Dreamboys. That would amount to about 2400baht for 4 people. Opening a bottle at Dreamboys would cost me 2500 Baht (Sangsom) but that grants me 4/5 free entries. Mixers however are not free and are charged at 100Baht per bottle/can. But then the boy drinks are free. (Not entirely sure if that's their policy or if it's because I'm a regular there). The bottle can last us quite awhile rather than nursing that 1 drink for the whole time we're there and especially if we are getting a 2nd drink, then getting the bottle would 100% be more cost efficient. Most bars will offer either free mixers or free limited amount of mixers (e.g. 5 cans per bottle opened). Most bars, the boy drinks will be free if you opened a bottle. But each bar has their own rules. Moonlight is very strict about having to buy their boys drinks even if you have your own bottle. (My friend was charged a boy drink even though they took the boy as the bar was closing and no drink was given) If you don't finish your alcohol, you tell the bar to keep the alcohol for you. You'll be given a card in exchange for the bottle. Just return next time with the card for them to retrieve your bottle. Do note that there is a duration that they would keep your bottle for. Once it goes over the "expiry date" the staff then sometimes help themselves to the "free" alcohol. Upon return, most clubs charge a 500 per person fee. If 3 of you show up, you'll be charged 1500 unless you choose to open a new bottle on the day itself on top of the one that you have. For some clubs, you have to tell them you will open a new bottle beforehand or else you'll get charged the 1500 plus the cost of the new bottle. But if you had told them upfront that you are opening a new bottle, you would only pay the cost of the new bottle. This happened to us in Freshboys. Regarding tips, you give what you like. It's not much different from when you bought them a drink. We tend to play games with our alcohol. Boys join in, tips are given every now and then. For boys who you are closer with, some may not expect tips, they may just want to drink with you. Of course nobody is going to say no to money should you offer them some. If a boy who you called to sit with you, drank with you the whole night, and you aren't taking him back to the hotel, I would say minimally 500 Baht as they gave away their opportunity of a customer to drink with you. If you have any other questions, do let me know and I'll try to answer them if it's within my capacity.

26-10-2024 Day 2 - I woke up around 11am in the morning and went to terminal 21 . Meanwhile Mr.Tree from helios messaging me whats u r plan today? R u coming for massage ? iI asked him any good guys apart from u to explore. He replied with pic his name is also Mr.Tree with shirtless pic... I said ok as he looks good and asked how much for ST. He replied with 2000 baht i didn't negotiate because i felt its reasonable, what to do rest of the day? so i asked him I need to see him 1st and went around 7pm to helios as he waiting outside. He looks like super hero and he is very handsome. I decided to take him to Jomtien complex to see the massage shops and atmosphere ( i seen only in youtube many times and never seen it real) . We both went to jomtien complex walked around to be frank i didn't like anyone all are twinks and not my cup of tea at all. just opposite to soda massage we both sat and he drank some beer and i drank coke as usual. I felt so shy that all are calling me for massage and Mr.T helped me alot in controlling my nerves. Meanwhile old Mr.T that I met yesterday messaging me can i come with you guys for Boyzboyzboyz show at 10.30pm and i felt bad for him and told to come. I told old Mr.T what i am going to do today - 1st jomtien complex -- eating at Indian restaurant-- then at boyzboyzboyz show at 10.30pm then finally will take new Mr.T to my hotel room. Boyzboyzboyz show Drink cost -- 350 baht rest I didn't ask because I already decided to take new Mr.T to my hotel room so I didn't ask boy drink cost( on display it mentioned boy drink cost 300) and boy cost off fee too. To be frank I didn't like the show because less nudity and so much crowded along with pillars obstructing the view and none of the boys are handsome than my new Mr.T for sure ( they are around 20-25 guys on stage) their acts are less and for every 2 acts done they come to us for tips everytime i gave 100 baht for 3 times ( they are not leaving us without taking tips from me but none are demanded or rude). finally around 11.50 i decided to pack up from this shit show. I gave old Mr.T his drink cost (300baht) and said bye to him and gave 200baht extra( because of him i am exploring gogo bars and he introduced new Mr.T as well) as I respect him and his time to spent with me not just for fun part. I know i can't do this alone because i feel so shy in public and its not quite common in INDIA. Old Mr.T is like a hunk and his age 32 with tattoos on chest and back, without six pack and natural built with little workout body. New Mr.T is with pure fair complexion and cute face with soft body and his age 25 without any tattoo without six pack and natural built with little biceps workout only. Me and new Mr.T went to my hotel room started hugging kissing alot and took proper shower together to clean ourselves and he started sucking my cock and i told be your self no need to suck mine at start. we did passionate kissing again we both licked full bodies particularly i licked him completely and wet his entire body with my saliva including his asshole on the bed after shower. We did 69 and much more, after 1hr 30min we did mutual mastrubation . I paid him 2300baht and he felt happy and left. I want to go to Xboys pattaya show on tomorrow with those 2 T's again and will find a new guy as i fixed option 2 guy on the day 1 itself so probably i pick him if he works tomorrow. Why am i choosing Xboys again - 1. their show is unique and no dramas always nude and straight to the point from 10pm exactly show starts till 12am?) 2. They never asked anyone about tips but i gave 100 baht while top fucking bottom on my lap - hahaha 3. ambience is calm not much crowded people coming drinking for 15-20min and going. 4. Shower sex , real fucking sex in different positions and bottom lying on every customer while top fucking him.. i felt both guys butts -hahah and many more like golf play with cocks , cock lifting weights from 50-100kgs from 3 different persons and many more acts. 5. the show operating guy is very good friendly person ( he asked me to take him to the hotel for free - i laughed at him and said no.. he is aged but i bought him a drink) Till now i met old Mr.T then xboys 1 guy then today new Mr.T. if i rank the guys based on my likes and fun part in bed both Mr.T's are equally good and i can't choose one, then little less xboys bar guy ( he is also good but compared to both Mr.T's 1% less) I finally got to know that Both Mr.T's and me all r equal height 170cm and equal weight 75kg with equal taste loves romance alot and all are versa tops. This is 2nd day guys and thanks for messages too. will keep posting tomorrow night the result of day 3.

I keep repeating it - the broken kaleidoscope, Grindr, that we rely on to get our guys --> SUCKS!!! When @emiel1981 was here visiting Pattaya last week - he had a great time with a French guy that he met on Grindr and I also wanted to meet with this French guy and it took us 3 entire FULL days to make contact because of the contorted way that Grindr works. Emiel explained to me that the view of guys that we see in Grindr is distorted because if a guy has logged off for more than 60 minutes it will not appear in our view list - even if we ask Grindr to show us off-line guys. How absurd is this? Furthermore, there is NO feature in Grindr to search for a guy as they don't issue you a user name and/or user ID - so we just had to wait until the French guy was online and capture his presence within the 60 minute window before he would become invisible. Thank GOD here in Pattaya the MOST abundant number of guys can be found on the much user friendly app = Hornet where the number of guys displayed is always double (or more) than what is displayed in Grindr. Also, with Hornet you can search by a user's ID which is very handy when you want to reconnect with someone. You can also see who is following him and who he is following which greatly helps expand your circle when you really connect with someone - as we say, "birds of the same feather tend to flock together" - which when you like the same feathers is great but when you don't like those feathers you can avoid the flock. Many of our local guys that want to market their services have also been banned on Grindr - and since this ban is linked to the physical phone device (not the phone number or email) our guys cannot create a NEW Grindr until they get a new phone device. So sugar daddies out there get your wallets ready if you want to see our guys on Grindr..... Lastly, as a paid Grindr member - 2 of my monthly fees on Grindr pays for a FULL year of my Hornet subscription. Now why is it that the gay community is obsessed with Grindr ?? I forgot all of the reasons.....

Exactly, the OP is located in the Netherlands where this is legal and regulated. The same can’t be said for Thailand. Chinese firms are increasingly selling software that allows for more heavy handed surveillance of their populations to other countries in the region. While the Thai state don’t want or need this level of surveillance, this can change. Best to have the option to pay using paper, and retain privacy.

#me too, difference is that rarely I manage to keep my limit and if successful , next morning I wonder what's was wrong with me yesterday

Here is another one: https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/privacynotincluded/hornet/

Steven I worry how much time you spend with Halperin that you'll end up drinking their koolade. I honestly feel like I need a hot soapy shower after watching them. Sean Spicer? No thank you. That said I admit I'm hooked on watching the anti Trumpers at The Bulwark, a Republican center-right and anti-Trump conservative news and opinion website, and YouTube vlog. I really like their publisher, Sarah Longwell, a clever pundit. She has been working her tail of trying to make a difference. I also like their managing editor Sam Stein who is closer to center, and kinda cute. Here is Sam on the right with Tim Miller a never Trumper Republican that worked for Jeb Bush. Tim has really been losing it, how hypocritical so many Republicans are about Trump. Sam is keeping it together somehow. Tim and Sarah have been outspoken how too many Republicans are not admitting Trump is a dangerous fool that needs to be defeated. According to Sarah, right now Michigan is in the bag for Harris. Another vlogger I follow, David Feldman is convinced Pennsylvania is going for Harris. Still another vlogger and pundit I follow, Simon Rosenberg remains encouraged Harris will win. So although we all feel as exasperated as @Suckrates does that our country is so close to fucking up our democracy, we can't give up. Everybody do whatever you can!! Every day. I am.

First , I'm not one of those who like to show off and while indeed tuck includes 100 baht note I try to conceal it until it lands deep in the undies. second , no, nobody ever run away s they rightly calculate that 100 baht is more than 0. third , my tuck usually signalizes my interest in boy in question and those who know me know that well, so they can expect off and generous, even if undeserved, tip anytime soon. rightly so, there were 2 massages with 1000 baht tip each

From Bangkok Post People can enjoy viewing the Royal Barge Procession along the Chao Phraya River at 14 designated viewing spots along the river in Bangkok on Sunday afternoon. The government has invited the public to attend an audience with His Majesty the King to mark his 72nd birthday, which was on July 28, and watch the grand procession, which is being held as part of a royal krathin robe offering ceremony. The procession will take place from 3pm to 6pm, so would-be spectators are advised to make their travel plans accordingly. People will be asked to present their ID cards or passports at entry venues. Be sure to bring along drinking water, umbrellas, hats and any necessary medicines. Fourteen viewing spots have been designated for the public to watch the procession along the river: On the riverside at the Bank of Thailand Rama VII Bridge (Bank of Thailand Learning Center) Under Rama VIII Bridge (Thon Buri side) Santichaiprakan Park Under Phra Pinklao Bridge 60th Anniversary of Thammasat Square, Thammasat University Tha Prachan campus Health Park, Siriraj Hospital Pridi Banomyong square, Thammasat University Tha Prachan campus Sathan Phimuk Garden, Siriraj Hospital Tha Chang Wat Rakhang Khositaram Tha Tien Wat Pho Pier Wat Arun (Temple of Dawn). The grand spectacle, set against the backdrop of the Chao Phraya River, will start from the Wakusri Pier (Wat Rachathiwat Pier), passing under the Rama VIII and Phra Pinklao bridges and ending at Wat Arun. The total distance is 4.2 kilometers.

Hey @EmmetK, Just got back from casting the winning vote for Cackles... Pack your Clown car and hit the road ! See ya in 4 years when you'll be schilling for D.J Trump Jr....and you can try to normalize and get a CRACKHEAD elected.

u r very senior in this forums and thanks for taking time and reading my posts. sure will report what will happen today current time at pattaya is 12.50pm, for me the day just started.

I think the debate so far is missing the main point, albeit that the thread is about Euorpean airlines cutting back on flights to China. This statistic is key, especially if we see it from China's perspective. It is likely that 2024 will end with about 34 million foreign visitors, only 70% of the 49 million the country received in 2019. Lots of small businesses in China catering to foreign visitors must be suffering. Tourism in China is of three broad types: The very biggest, by far is domestic tourism. You go to any attraction and chances are that domestic tourists will outnumber foreigners by a few multiples. This sector currently has its own problems but it is outside the scope of our discussion, The second biggest group, I believe, would be the cross-border "tourists" from countries that adjoin China, such as Vietnam, Myanmar, Mongolia, Kazakhstan and Russia. They come in for a day and rarely go beyond the border town. Many are traders. For the purposes of this discussion (about flights), they're irrelevant. The third group are those who fly in, or maybe cross from HongKong and then travel around other cities. When we are discussing flights from Europe, we're really talking about a segment of a segment. Europeans are a portion of the third group. All the rest (from other Asian countries or America) are irrelevant to this discussion about flights from Europe. Wikipedia has stats from 2019, giving you a sense of the breakdown by country of origin. The first big table there lumps the cross-border visitors with the fly-in visitors; it even includes Hong Kong and Macau. Not helpful, though you can see how big the cross-border numbers are. It's the second table "Foreign arrivals in Beijing" which gives a better sense of the make-up of the fly-in segment of visitors. The numbers themselves refer to Beijing, but it's the proportions that interest us. What is interesting is that, excluding those from Hong Kong, the top four (USA, Japan, South Korean, Taiwan) are NOT from Europe. The top ten in 2019 were: 1. USA 629,000 2. Japan 247,000 3. South Korea 242,000 4. Taiwan 222,000 5. Germany 198,000 6. UK 153,000 7. Australia 141,000 8. Singapore 127,000 9. France 120,000 10. Canada 100,000. The total for these top ten is 2,179,000. Of these, 471,000 (22%) were from Europe. Very roughly then, the issue of discontinued flights affects only about a fifth or a quarter of fly-in tourists. The rest fly in from neighbouring countries such as Japan or across the Pacific, such as USA and Canada. The point is that even as Chinese Airlines are in a position to take nearly 100% market share of the European traffic due to the withdrawal of European Airlines, it does not amount to all that much. They'd still have to compete against Southeast Asian airlines, Japanese and Korean airlines for the much larger segments that do not come from Europe. Above all, 100% market share of a market that is 30% smaller than 2019 - and I think it is significantly more than 30% down, because the cross-border numbers are likely to be holding up, so that means the fly-in numbers must be much lower - is no cause for celebration. The minister or officials in charge of tourism in Beijing must be far more concerned about the drop in total numbers, not about the pick-up in market share in a shrinking market. It's important to see things in perspective.

if u feel shy like me to explore then choose someone who can help u to explore every thing . Thai guys are very humble and respect others alot. They never demand money whatever we give they take and thet dont have any expectations at beginning from us

Thanks for the report. Since I‘m planning my first trip to Pattaya (and looking forward to exploring naughty things), I appreciate your details and encourage you to continue being specific in your next installments of your report! Don’t worry about offending people. Anybody who feels offended has the option to simply stop reading.😉

so, by now, all of your guys must dread receiving the "Vinapu tuck", as this implies that they won't be offed and earn said being offed income. have any run away in fear ( due to not being selected as an off ) when they see you approaching with the red note in your hand heading for their underwear?

According to The Thaiger, a young man between 25 and 30 years of age sat on his bicycle and masturbated for two hours before offended residents called police. Personally, think I would have been inclined to give him greater leeway. https://thethaiger.com/news/national/perverted-man-terrifies-locals-by-masturbating-in-public-for-2-hours

I think the accountability issue is important. As mentioned before, China likes card or phone payments, to keep tabs on who does what. It may be that Thailand is not that sophisticated, but who knows.

Spend your cash in a bar or massage shop and it disappears into the currency system. Charge your purchase to a credit or debit card, and transaction is preserved for eternity. Up to you.

This is likely first, and perhaps really adding excitement to theming the typical nature of gay massage for pleasure. Mandel spa (considered a soft/super soft shop) is advertising a halloween themed massage. Check it out!

Longwell is also family. She is so practical and helps reign in Tim and others from driving into the ditch. I love Longwell's podcasts with George Conway. And speaking of cute (Sam Stein) I just ran across a vlog with Lichtman's son. 😍 But back to being serious, I'm glad you haven't drunk the koolaide!

I wonder about you too 😆

There are money boys, but lots looking to hook up with a white guy......Same rules as everywhere, most profiles don't have their own profile pic, many with filters or will send fake pics.... all guys warn about thieves or fakes, so it must be a thing? I stayed at the Lalit hotel, very nice, $80usd a night, high end allowed visitors, but not late night...they tried to deny entrance to 1 kid, but he's been with me all day and I explained this and he got in ok. Spoke to a guy from the UK, he had an airbnb and said zero issues that route.....but for the price difference, I liked the hotel for a short stay. Planning returning to this side of the world in March, will try a place near Bombay and one in the south....northern guys are hairier I'm told, so no interest there, for me.

Thanks. Floridarob. I agree that nothing good happens, late at night, mostly because my older self is already tired by then after the gp used my body for pleasure 😛. That’s why I sometimes go to a bar to sit and relax until I feel it’s time to head back to my hotel, grab an Uber, and rest until noon the next day. That’s my usual routine in São Paulo, where there’s not much to do before 2 p.m. except eat and shop. But since this is Rio, I might hit the beach earlier. There’s a wonderful restaurant in Ipanema that makes the best pork sandwich on the planet, and last time, I even found a great group of those that run the spots and rent the chair and umbrella at the beach who treated me like royalty and were very welcoming. I keep going to their spot near the gay beach, which I think is at Post 9. And since i ve been a loner all my life i always know to bring a waterproof pouch/bag to bring my belongings with me when taking a dip. A short one since i am not a waves expert In São Paulo, I went to most of the bars and clubs, with and without table service, and had a great time. I was treated so well there too. In Rio, I went to Club Taurus, which was wild, but after a couple of hours, I was ready for a change of pace. I hope to find a nice lounge-type bar this time to unwind after a day of beach and shopping

It's not rocket science. Thailand will figure it out, as other countries have.

Interesting article: https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/privacynotincluded/grindr/

It isn't meaningful to compare 2024 figures with 2023 when china only reopened to travel in 2023. A better comparison would be against the last full pre-covid year, which is 2019. In the same way, Thailand speaks of the 39million visitors it received in 2019 as the measure of recovery from the pandemic. As I pointed out, if we annualise the 17 million till July 2024, we may see 34 million visitors to china in the full 2024. It is below the pre-covid figure. Perhaps I should have said "shrunk market" rather than "shrinking market" because only time will tell what 2025 brings. Will it grow or shrink further? My understanding too. In any case I have been told by a Shanghai tour guide that the majority of Chinese tourists headed to Europe are in packaged group tours. They are price sensitive and would more likely use Chinese airlines rather than European airlines (also Chinese-speaking cabin crew and Chinese meals on board). So even if outbound Chinese tourism (to Europe) grows strongly in the next couple of years - not likely given the economic doldrums in china - it won't be the European airlines benefitting.

I love them, too. Tim is a little over the top. But he's Gay. So whadaya gonna do? The one I like the most there is Charlie Sykes. Very thoughtful, and very down to earth. And he reeks of integrity. At best, what we see happening here has been labelled "the new centrism". I think it is true that people are just sick of this shit. And they want to meet in the middle and move beyond it. In some theoretical world, Trump actually would be the perfect agent for a "new centrism". There was a period of time between Nov. 2016 and Jan.2017 when a lot of liberals were worried about that. That Trump, who wrote checks to Harris as a candidate years ago and was kind of a right of center Democrat, would move to the center and build a lasting moderate Republican coalition. By Jan. 2017 I think we knew this guy was a narcissistic dolt, and it was gonna be "American carnage". And that was Trump on a good day By Jan. 2021 we had the Jubilant Patriotic Cop Beating. If there is a new centrism, it will not be about picking up flag poles and really just showing how much we love cops and the rule of law by smashing their fucking heads open. And do not be confused. It is the fucking cops' fault. This way as a day of love, which they fucked up by carrying guns. And being rude to patriots who just wanted to break their bones. So that is just a no go. If there is a new centrism, these folks like Sykes and Longwell will help build it. Arguably, there already are. Funny you mention that. The last few days are the first time I have started to doubt Halperin's judgment about this election. And I have a reason why. In the last few days in one of his podcasts he went after John Meacham. John Meacham! Meacham was on Morning Joe going after Trump and fascism and Jan. 6th and protecting democracy. And he was doing it in a very guarded and almost vague Meacham sort of way. Meacham would never say, "He's a fascist." So Halperin couldn't say "Meacham is a hot head." Halperin just played the tape of Meacham being Meacham. And then talked about how maybe this was an example of these anti-Trump people just not getting it, and saying all this apocalyptic bullshit that turns people off. Meacham is no leftist. He is about as centrist as it gets. I'd argue a bit right of center. He has impeccable pedigree when it comes to standards, and values, and being pro-American. So what this particular comparison just made obvious to me is that Halperin really is a deeply cynical man. I think for him it all is a circus. So really, at the end of the day, these lines Meacham is trying to draw about what is fundamentally wrong about Trump don't really matter. He's just another politician. Just like Hitler. Just like Stalin. It's just inflammatory to say Trump or Hitler or Stalin are somehow different. They are just politicians in the circus. Maybe a bit more out there. That's all. If I am at all right, it would suggest that Halperin is missing something. We'll know better after the votes are cast. But the counterpoint is definitely all those folks at The Bulwark. I'll hold up Sykes and Longwell as ones saying, "No." Trump is not just another politician. He is a threat to everything we cherish.

i uploaded pic just u to know what is foam massage .. once he applied foam like this on my back then he rub his body on my back. There is no much massage in this because its slippery he can't get grip to massage me. in precise body to body massage is foam massage, after some time my chest facing him then we start everything whatever we like

I almost always go for 90 minutes session as long time ago I noticed that guys tend to rush things up if only 1 hr is ordered and I like to take things slowly to enjoy every ,moment longer. I think 90 minutes signalizes to guy that he is not suppose to be too speedy

I will check them out this weekend, they offer a range of services including waxing and stretching. Some of their boys are on OF as well.

It doesnt matter that Trump supports a killer of women and children, is a racist, misogynist and sex offender, Liar, cheat and fraud, and outright buffoonish clown that has no respect for Democracy or America. Its funny that he claims America is a shithole, garbage can country of corrupt people and government YET, he wants to be President of it. Makes you wonder what the motive really is ? Certainly not to help people because everything he proposes is to make peoples lives WORSE, especially people of color. Now in the last days, as he loses his last brain cells , he has nothing to lose, so he's going "cuckoos nest". but he cant gain any new voters with his old tired message. Only the nut jobs already locked in to Trump will vote, and everyone else will be repelled. And he knows that when he loses, he will just TAKE the win, and his people will believe he won, and hence we embark on another 4 years of chaos and dysfunction. We can only hope for a Congress and Senate win, so if Trump does actually win, WE will still have some power and authority. Otherwise America as we know it will cease to exist, and we will not only have to deal with a corrupt, lawless government, but with MAGA friends, neighbors and family emboldened But destroyed, like EmmetK living in their crazy hateful dystopian bubble of grievance, conspiracy and nostalgia for a time gone long ago.

I am in Rio this week. In terms of pricing, it did not change much, I only offer 150 or 200 if they are hot. All accepted my offer. What I do not like is the quality, pretty meh. Maybe October is a slow season or Onlyfans stuff. I only find 2 - 3 guys to my taste even on Tuesday & Wed. Of those 2 - 3 guys, they are not new faces either. The sauna really need to start recruiting better guys, and try exempt the entry price for garotos if they score a client, this might motivate more guys to work there. Besides, I find the peak hour at 202/117 has changed. Previously, it gets crowed around 6pm on Tuesday/Wed, now the house is relatively empty until 7pm, it starts to get busy.

yes, those 30 extra minutes can often be the best minutes. Just tonight with my 4 hands 90 minute massage - 30 minutes were dedicated to an intense edging session - mamma mia - what a release at the end....

ok, updates about: if there is/was garbage on the non-Pattaya City facing side of Koh Larn, new centralized speedboat ticketing system at the Bali Hai pier have been incorporated into the already existing 2022 trip report for Koh Larn here: enjoy.

I wish...real life experience, too many times....

I think SK is Saphan Kwai, otherwise reader would have to be in 2 places at once!

I couldn't agree more. These days I'm actually not into kissing as I also consider it to be a very intimate gesture reserved for those with whom I share a mutual affection. Neither of my regulars kiss, but that doesn't bother me as they are both straight and such affection doesn't exist between us. The only time I feel the desire to kiss is when I'm being topped in the missionary position. I get that satisfaction from the guys who take care of me here. At a certain time in the fucking process when things are starting to to really heat up it sort of just happens naturally - all by itself. In my younger days kissing was usually part of the fun, as the guys I was having sex with were considered as possible lovers; the sex was always intimate. Having to pay for sex with someone much younger means such intimate relationshios are no longer available to me.

Send him to my neighborhood - I will give him a few Vinapu tucks 😜

My stays are long so I have to apply some self discipline when it comes to renumeration. I’ve just about given up bar offs for the pleasures of massage. I have fixed upper limit and I remain within it, regardless of how attractive the masseur. The older I get the more I’ve come to acknowledge that I don’t have to have the most handsome guy with best body. Perfectly satisfied with time-proven guy whose company makes me happy. Perfectly content to leave models to big spenders.

I assume there is no law against it in Thailand? (google search does not help) But if such a law exist here, does it apply to gay sex? Wikipedia explains: Non-consensual condom removal, or "stealthing",[1] is the practice of a person removing a condom during sexual intercourse without consent, when their sex partner has only consented to condom-protected sex.[2][3] Purposefully damaging a condom before or during intercourse may also be referred to as stealthing,[4] regardless of who damaged the condom. Victims are exposed to potential sexually transmitted diseases (STDs) such as HIV/AIDS, or unwanted pregnancies.[5] Such behaviour may be therefore regarded as sexual assault or rape, and sometimes as a form of reproductive coercion.[6] As of 2020, stealthing is punishable as a form of sexual violence in some countries, such as Germany and the United Kingdom.[5]

and this is the PRIMARY reason why I would hate any local economy to go cashless - because then in that moment we lose our privacy and nosy other entities/people start looking into where and how we are spending our discretionary income. I say, bugger off - that is my personal private business and I do not need a "helping hand" from some bureaucrat who wants to question me on how I am spending my money. Lastly, whenever it comes to tips - I prefer to use cash for making tips - as I don't want any intermediaries to either take their cut and/or to have power over the intended tip recipient to intimidate them for a cut. So for our guys and/or taxis - they get their tip in cash even if I pay the BOLT taxi by a linked debit card to my bank and the taxi drivers have told me that they really appreciate this - because they need to wait a long time to receive said tip into their bank account. Furthermore, when the BOLT app asks me how much to tip - I always select ZERO and then I write in the comment box that I tipped the driver in cash but I NEVER share this amount with BOLT.

Quizas, quizas, quizas!

Really enjoyed your trip report! Thank you for taking the time to share. I'll be in BKK in January, and will definitely check out S'sense.

I don’t think so but board members certainly do.