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hi guys.. i am ash.. from INDIA. This is my 4th visit to pattaya and 1st time i came alone here to explore more naughty things. I reached BKK airport at 9.30am on 25th october. as there is no visa policy for INDIANS just done direct immigration and came out. Grab taxi cost me 1500 thai baht to pattaya Sunshine hotel. Sunshine hotel is cheap( 750 babt per day for total 4 days) and best for solo travel. They given me room at 2pm afternoon even though check in time is at 3pm. 25-10-2024 Day 1 - I went to Helios men .. the best for me {[( 2017 i went once , 2019 i went once , then 2023 march i went once)]} helios never disappointed me. I always take foam massage because massage less fun part more. the boys here are very co-operative massage cost - 600 min tip to boy -- 1000 I met the guy name Tree. he is medium to gym build. I dont like six packs or heavy built guys.he is best he told me to take shower and left for 2-3min , after shower he came and given back rub and we did alot of fun.. kissing hugging i did massage to him as well ofcourse he did massage to me.. 69 we did.. i fucked him little because just fucking is not my cup of tea i like passionate romance alot. I am versa top ( sorry if someone felt bad that i explained little more about what happened at Helios. I paid him extra 1000baht to him because he did his best. I took his whatsapp number and asked him to come with me for Xboys night 10pm and 11pm show because i never went to any gogoboys bar. he came at 9.30pm and we went inside Xboyz. Xboyz show was mind blowing.. full of cocks. I thought to take back the same massage guy who i met helios thats the reason i told him to come with me. Xboys pattaya at 9.50pm show cost - 300baht including drink I like 1 guy age 25yrs and finally talked to someguy who is operating this show.. initially told 800 is off fee and boy told 2800 his fees. then i told no. but operating guy finally told to take the guy for total 2500 without off fees or 500 off fees and 2000 for Short time(ST) both are same haha. I offered 2 drinks for him.. he is very co-operative.. and operating guy took my hand from boys shoulder and told me to catch boys cock.. and i did that he is very comfortable and rest his head on my shoulder. The guy name tree who came with me since 9.45pm he is just laughing with me as i ditched him and taking back new guy in positive way. I told Mr. tree guy clearly .. if i dont like anyone then u come to my room i pay 1500 baht as u fixed the price if not i will take u to my room some day in 4 days visit here for sure. Mr.tree is co-operative and helped me to talk with boy and decrease the money by bargain as well. finally i given Mr-Tree 500 baht and 300 drink for him and he is happy too. Me and the new boy from Xboyz went to my hotel room and enjoyed under hot shower. he is very soft and medium tight body. I licked his entire body all parts almost did romance for 1hr 30min. i went to Indian restaurant and ate he left after the fun. He is top and i am too so except fuck we did everything. Xboys pattaya show is the best full of nudity and timepass. I loved it. at 3.30am i slept till next day 11am. If this content helpful and to give some suggestions plz do comment and will continue my rest of journey for 4 days.

My stays are long so I have to apply some self discipline when it comes to renumeration. I’ve just about given up bar offs for the pleasures of massage. I have fixed upper limit and I remain within it, regardless of how attractive the masseur. The older I get the more I’ve come to acknowledge that I don’t have to have the most handsome guy with best body. Perfectly satisfied with time-proven guy whose company makes me happy. Perfectly content to leave models to big spenders.

that's the bottom line of it, we need to have a choice. speaking about the choice : stewardess is asking passenger "will you eat dinner / " , he answers '" do I have a choice ?", she cheerfully says back " yes , yes or no"

I hope this will never happen anywhere during my life time anywhere , not only in Thailand. It's always good to have an option but when cash will be gone so will option. Many things may go wrong and if they may , sooner or later they will. Technology malfunction, hackers, deliberate government's action , own or enemy's , just to name a few. Elevators are great but still even Mahanakhon has staircase. and yes , wouldn't it to be great to be greeted by immigration officer upon arrival :" Mr Raposa, on your last trip you have 27 transaction in Patpong bars known for prostitution which is illegal in our country , please go this way "

My best sex has usually been with guy next door types....the better looking, the more time they spend looking in the mirror 🤷‍♂️

and this is the PRIMARY reason why I would hate any local economy to go cashless - because then in that moment we lose our privacy and nosy other entities/people start looking into where and how we are spending our discretionary income. I say, bugger off - that is my personal private business and I do not need a "helping hand" from some bureaucrat who wants to question me on how I am spending my money. Lastly, whenever it comes to tips - I prefer to use cash for making tips - as I don't want any intermediaries to either take their cut and/or to have power over the intended tip recipient to intimidate them for a cut. So for our guys and/or taxis - they get their tip in cash even if I pay the BOLT taxi by a linked debit card to my bank and the taxi drivers have told me that they really appreciate this - because they need to wait a long time to receive said tip into their bank account. Furthermore, when the BOLT app asks me how much to tip - I always select ZERO and then I write in the comment box that I tipped the driver in cash but I NEVER share this amount with BOLT.

I prefer to pay cash for certain things. I have paid massage shops with credit card, but the tip has been in cash and I prefer that. At home, I will pay the restaurant bill with a card, but the tip for the server is usually in cash. I can be sure that they are getting the money, and they do not have to go through their boss. Also, for certain venues, I am more comfortable not using a card and just paying in cash which is more anonymous

This is an update to this 2022 trip report to Koh Larn from the Pattaya Bali Hai pier - because the Pattaya City (mayor) decided to implement a new speedboat departure system, which I experienced today, 26 Oct 2024. https://www.pattayamail.com/news/pattaya-mayor-vows-to-end-aggressive-practices-at-bali-hai-pier-472979 Prior to now, you went to individual speedboat vendor booths to buy your ticket to Koh Larn - to the left of the pier (when facing the sea harbor) as shown in the below photo: Contrary to what was reported by the Pattaya mayor, I NEVER found this system to be aggressive. I knew which speedboat company I preferred and I walked up to that individual ticket booth and bought my ticket from my favorite ladyboy ticket seller at the AM booth. Simple and easy. One of their guides would walk us onto the Bali Hai pier where their designated speedboat was departing from. Now the Pattaya City had this not so great idea to terminate all of these individual speedboat ticket booths to just 2 ticket booths that are situated at the beginning of the Bali Hai pier - see below photo that I took today: What the city has done is to divide Koh Larn into 2 sectors - Tawaen beach (side opposite of Pattaya city) and Na Baan (side facing Pattaya city). In the past, I always bought my ticket from the AM speedboat ticket booth for the Tawaen destination and I paid 150 baht each way or 300 baht if I wanted to return from Tawaen - often I returned from Na Baan - as the return times back to Pattaya city are more flexible. Well, this morning I got in the queue and I asked for a ticket to Tawaen and I was told that due to the choppy sea that they can only bring me to Nual Beach (aka Monkey Beach) for 500 baht. I don't like Nual Beach as it is not nice in my opinion. I asked why is it so expensive and the girl at the ticket booth told me that it is always 500 baht. I told her that I live in Pattaya now since 2 years and I have NEVER paid 500 baht to go to the non-Pattaya city facing side of the island. She replied to me, well my father is the boat captain - do you want to speak to him. I said NO - and I then asked her what are my other options to get onto Koh Larn? By now I was angry, as the Pattaya City has made a mess by demanding the demolition of the former decentralized ticketing system to this now centralized ticketing system. The girl told me that i can take the normal slow ferry to Na Baan OR she pointed to another ticket booth where they were selling speedboat tickets to Na Baan - the main village on Koh Larn. So, I bought a 150 baht speedboat ticket for Na Baan and we were then led by our assigned guide onto the Bali Hai pier floating launch that was super packed as there were other tour groups already on the floating pier - total chaos, confusion, and people being jostled by the up and down of the waves. When the system was decentralized, the individual boat company took care to obtain their own unique launch pier to avoid the chaos that comes when you put too many groups onto the same floating launch pier - a consequence of this badly implemented centralized system. In my opinion, it is just a mater of time before a tourist is hurt by this chaos and then to protect the sacred image of pristine Pattaya - they will order the centralized ticketing system to be demolished and we go back to the safer decentralized individual boat companies that saw to take care of you the customer. When I arrived into the main Na Baan village, I rented a motorbike so that I could cross over the island onto my favorite side. My first stop was for my favorite banana creme cake with an iced cappuccino at the wonderful Cher Aim Cafe & Resort situated on Tawaen beach. I will admit, the ride over on the speedboat was very choppy and 90% of the passengers were Asians and some of them opened their umbrellas inside the speedboat to try to avoid some of the splashes that were entering into the boat from the waves. All was good - as I am almost always impressed how the Thai boat drivers magically navigate their boats in any kind of weather. Then after by banana creme cake (don't tell my gym trainer - I can already hear her yelling - I cannot control what you put into your mouth - if she only knew - hahahha) I then drove the motorbike over the most difficult but exhilarating hill on Koh Larn down into my MOST favorite beach = Tien beach. Life is good on Tien Beach --> note that back in Pattaya there has been trash found on the local city beaches due to all of the recent storms - but over here on Koh Larn - no trash - just beautiful clean transparent turquoise water with fluffy white powder sand. The ride back to Pattaya City from Na Baan was uneventful because by now the morning choppiness had disappeared and the 8 km of sea between Koh Larn and Pattaya City was tranquil = all was good.

According to The Thaiger, a young man between 25 and 30 years of age sat on his bicycle and masturbated for two hours before offended residents called police. Personally, think I would have been inclined to give him greater leeway. https://thethaiger.com/news/national/perverted-man-terrifies-locals-by-masturbating-in-public-for-2-hours

Christian PFC would be proud of you. I'm even more proud as it looks you are very generous , considering min tip in SK is 800-1000, rarely more. Exceeding it 9 times out 11 shows both good heart on your part and good service on boy's

I tabulated my massage tip expenses for first week. Had 11, one-hour sessions in SK and Silom. Here’s how they broke down: 2 x 1,000 = 2,000 7 x 1,300 = 9,100 2 x 1,500 = 3,000 Total 14,300 Average. 1,300 I anticipate an increase in average as I extend some guys to 90-minute sessions.

TK Massage May be located in a different part of city but it has been mentioned here for its no holds barred videos aimed at tempting customers to go out of their was to pay them a visit. Now it seems that their efforts haven’t gone unnoticed in Saphan Kwai. Several shops have begun posting short videos on their LINE feed, albeit of a more restrained nature. And judging by recent visit to a very popular shop a stone’s toss from the BTS stop, it’s working. When I came downstairs from my last session, a young man lay on the floor in lobby with a towel across his butt and another was massaging him. I didn’t see a camera but there were three other guys nearby with phones in hand so who knows. Perhaps they were instructing a new recruit? Getting your message out is important in any business and massage is no different. 🙂

I was at 39 Underground in July and was lucky enough to be there on the foam party day. I was having a pretty good time upstairs when they made an announcement the party room was open. I made my way down there about 20 minutes later and it was half full already. Soon after it was wall to wall hot guys. I managed to get up on a small raised area and could see it was shoulder to shoulder hot naked men! I dont recal seeing another farang while I was there. I had an amazing time, played with so many hot guys, in groups, swapping around, it was great! I saw xome of the hottest guys Ive ever seen at a sauna there, they could have been models. I left a few hours later completley exhausted. I say give it a go! You only live once!

Spend your cash in a bar or massage shop and it disappears into the currency system. Charge your purchase to a credit or debit card, and transaction is preserved for eternity. Up to you.

I hope Thailand, the Philippines, Vietnam and Singapore never go cashless, cash is king, only time I have ever used plastic in any country I have visited was to pay for hotels or some dental work in Bangkok on one occasion. I would also use the card for an emergency if it arose and that would preferably be through a bank not the atm, I hate the thought of countries going cashless but the scammers and criminals won't mind as they would step up their online scamming to new levels.

some people like to boast of how generous their boyfriends are

Thailand can’t go completely cashless since parts of their economy is still informal. And no, paying tips to boys should be in cash, no digital trail.

very good points. No doubt shops not informing people about minimum tips are doing disservice to both their guys and clients. We may assume that most tourists are doing their part about learning customs of host country but it's hard from universal in my opinion. Specially in this age when every information seems to be at fingertips, people are neglecting to do their homework about their destination , not only sex industry related. A lot of tourists may be knowingly playing stupid , claiming they assumed that 500 massage fee includes everything , boys compensation included, thus declining further tip and even pretending to be offended that tip was required but I'm sure there will be those from non-tipping culture which sincerely assume price is all in , just like in Japan. And in more expensive places like Jey , Senso , Prince , VCK or Glam with massage fees in excess of 1000 they may be partially absolved. So I agree , shops and boys should be doing better job informing clinets about their obligations and tipping practices. ................... good to know that boys are more assertive in their own , well understood interest. When I contacted Grindr guy in May about coming to my room , his first question was " will you give me money?"

26-10-2024 Day 2 - I woke up around 11am in the morning and went to terminal 21 . Meanwhile Mr.Tree from helios messaging me whats u r plan today? R u coming for massage ? iI asked him any good guys apart from u to explore. He replied with pic his name is also Mr.Tree with shirtless pic... I said ok as he looks good and asked how much for ST. He replied with 2000 baht i didn't negotiate because i felt its reasonable, what to do rest of the day? so i asked him I need to see him 1st and went around 7pm to helios as he waiting outside. He looks like super hero and he is very handsome. I decided to take him to Jomtien complex to see the massage shops and atmosphere ( i seen only in youtube many times and never seen it real) . We both went to jomtien complex walked around to be frank i didn't like anyone all are twinks and not my cup of tea at all. just opposite to soda massage we both sat and he drank some beer and i drank coke as usual. I felt so shy that all are calling me for massage and Mr.T helped me alot in controlling my nerves. Meanwhile old Mr.T that I met yesterday messaging me can i come with you guys for Boyzboyzboyz show at 10.30pm and i felt bad for him and told to come. I told old Mr.T what i am going to do today - 1st jomtien complex -- eating at Indian restaurant-- then at boyzboyzboyz show at 10.30pm then finally will take new Mr.T to my hotel room. Boyzboyzboyz show Drink cost -- 350 baht rest I didn't ask because I already decided to take new Mr.T to my hotel room so I didn't ask boy drink cost( on display it mentioned boy drink cost 300) and boy cost off fee too. To be frank I didn't like the show because less nudity and so much crowded along with pillars obstructing the view and none of the boys are handsome than my new Mr.T for sure ( they are around 20-25 guys on stage) their acts are less and for every 2 acts done they come to us for tips everytime i gave 100 baht for 3 times ( they are not leaving us without taking tips from me but none are demanded or rude). finally around 11.50 i decided to pack up from this shit show. I gave old Mr.T his drink cost (300baht) and said bye to him and gave 200baht extra( because of him i am exploring gogo bars and he introduced new Mr.T as well) as I respect him and his time to spent with me not just for fun part. I know i can't do this alone because i feel so shy in public and its not quite common in INDIA. Old Mr.T is like a hunk and his age 32 with tattoos on chest and back, without six pack and natural built with little workout body. New Mr.T is with pure fair complexion and cute face with soft body and his age 25 without any tattoo without six pack and natural built with little biceps workout only. Me and new Mr.T went to my hotel room started hugging kissing alot and took proper shower together to clean ourselves and he started sucking my cock and i told be your self no need to suck mine at start. we did passionate kissing again we both licked full bodies particularly i licked him completely and wet his entire body with my saliva including his asshole on the bed after shower. We did 69 and much more, after 1hr 30min we did mutual mastrubation . I paid him 2300baht and he felt happy and left. I want to go to Xboys pattaya show on tomorrow with those 2 T's again and will find a new guy as i fixed option 2 guy on the day 1 itself so probably i pick him if he works tomorrow. Why am i choosing Xboys again - 1. their show is unique and no dramas always nude and straight to the point from 10pm exactly show starts till 12am?) 2. They never asked anyone about tips but i gave 100 baht while top fucking bottom on my lap - hahaha 3. ambience is calm not much crowded people coming drinking for 15-20min and going. 4. Shower sex , real fucking sex in different positions and bottom lying on every customer while top fucking him.. i felt both guys butts -hahah and many more like golf play with cocks , cock lifting weights from 50-100kgs from 3 different persons and many more acts. 5. the show operating guy is very good friendly person ( he asked me to take him to the hotel for free - i laughed at him and said no.. he is aged but i bought him a drink) Till now i met old Mr.T then xboys 1 guy then today new Mr.T. if i rank the guys based on my likes and fun part in bed both Mr.T's are equally good and i can't choose one, then little less xboys bar guy ( he is also good but compared to both Mr.T's 1% less) I finally got to know that Both Mr.T's and me all r equal height 170cm and equal weight 75kg with equal taste loves romance alot and all are versa tops. This is 2nd day guys and thanks for messages too. will keep posting tomorrow night the result of day 3.

I am in Rio this week. In terms of pricing, it did not change much, I only offer 150 or 200 if they are hot. All accepted my offer. What I do not like is the quality, pretty meh. Maybe October is a slow season or Onlyfans stuff. I only find 2 - 3 guys to my taste even on Tuesday & Wed. Of those 2 - 3 guys, they are not new faces either. The sauna really need to start recruiting better guys, and try exempt the entry price for garotos if they score a client, this might motivate more guys to work there. Besides, I find the peak hour at 202/117 has changed. Previously, it gets crowed around 6pm on Tuesday/Wed, now the house is relatively empty until 7pm, it starts to get busy.

Thanks for the report. Since I‘m planning my first trip to Pattaya (and looking forward to exploring naughty things), I appreciate your details and encourage you to continue being specific in your next installments of your report! Don’t worry about offending people. Anybody who feels offended has the option to simply stop reading.😉

Pattaya Koh Larn island trip report - November 2022 This is my trip report to Koh Larn from Pattaya. It is written for those who might want to venture over to this beautiful island for a day trip or to stay a couple of nights like we did. I travelled with 2 of my Thai friends, as it was one of their birthday’s, hence these chosen dates. Why Koh Larn? Because you may want to get away from the hustle & bustle of busy Pattaya to stay at some truly beautiful beaches that have transparent blue turquoise clean water with nice white sand. As we know, most of Pattaya, and lesser so, Jomtien beaches have brownish water, consequently making it sometimes difficult to enjoy a true pleasant beach experience that Thailand is known for. Note, that Koh Larn is NOT at the level of beauty of Koh Samui or Phuket – but for only being 20 to 30 minutes away from Pattaya – it is a nice quick and easy substitute for them. Day ONE - Monday 21 November 2022 We took a Grab taxi from Jomtien over to the Bali Hali Pier in Pattaya. At the pier, there are many offerings for private tours via speed boat (costing thousands of Thai baht) and also transport via speed boat for ฿150 baht per person one way. We opted for the speedboat transportation modality, which takes 20 minutes. Note that if you continue towards the pier you can buy a ฿30 baht one way fare on the ferry boat, which takes 40 to 45 minutes. Note ferry schedule below – there are 2 destinations available – Naban Port which faces Pattaya, and Tawaen Beach which faces west into the Gulf of Thailand. http://kohlarn.com/getting-to-koh-larn.html The speedboat ride was quite enjoyable, as the sea was calm – consequently there were not many bumps. If you find that the sea is rough, then I would suggest that you instead take the ferry. Each of us wore a life vest – including all of the other passengers. After exiting the speedboat onto the floating pier, you will be almost immediately solicited for room rentals, taxis, and motorbike rentals. My 2 Thai friends had already reserved us a place in a 2 unit bungalow that they really liked (from previous trips) because it is isolated and private and still within the Naban village. We walked about 5 to 6 minutes south from the pier (as indicated in the below map) to where my 2 friends were greeted by a friendly Thai lady who acted as the broker for our 2 sleeping accommodations, which included 2 motorbikes (1 per unit). The price was ฿1,500 baht per unit and we always took 2 units – as I like to sleep alone. This is our first night accommodation. Simple – but nice and very private with a rocky beach front – when the tide is up the balcony is on top of the water and when the tide is out the balcony overlooks the rocks. Nice places to sit on each single balcony with 2 chairs each with a small table, nearby tree with tons of shade and an outdoor table if needed. From the below photo, you can see that the rooms are modest but practical. There was good air-conditioning and normal bathroom with hot water for a shower. The best part was the view of the Pattaya city and Jomtien skylines. For some months now, I can see Koh Larn from where I live in Jomtien and now I can look back to where I live. I have to say that it is very impressive – more so from Koh Larn looking towards Pattaya/Jomtien – especially at night when the entire city is illuminated. Note, there was NO breakfast included in the above mentioned price. View of Pattaya City and Jomtien from our Koh Larn room balcony – quite impressive. We unpacked our bags and then headed out to lunch at one of the many roadside cafes on our way to our first beach destination at Hat Nuan beach – which is on the southern tip of Koh Larn. Beach was pleasant and nice, but was not my favorite because when you walk into the water, it quickly gets deep – as there is a drop-off in the sea floor. I prefer a gradual drop off where you can walk out far into the water before it gets deep. At the far end of this beach – towards the rocks – are a group of monkeys. Many tourists were feeding them. I did not attempt to get too close as I saw many Youtube videos where the monkeys will steal something from you (like your mobile phone) and run away. No thanks. After a couple of hours at Hat Nuan beach, we then drove over to Samae Beach, which is on the western side of the island. The center of the island is dense green with large hills – so the ride from west to east and east to west are breathtaking – as the views from high up are stunning. Note the following - The roads on Koh Larn are narrow and there are NO cars – only the occasional baht busses that shuttle passengers back and forth between the different beaches. Each way on the baht bus is ฿30 baht for each single ride. Consequently, since there are NO cars – it makes driving on Koh Larn very pleasant, as it is just motorbikes going about – and they tended to drive slowly without any chaos. This is truly a nice experience after the crazy chaos of motorbikes in Pattaya city. Also, even though I have my official Thai motorbike driving license – I have not yet started to drive a motorbike in Thailand. I believe that driving one on Koh Larn will help me get over my fear to get started. Consequently, during this trip, I was the 2nd passenger on one of our 2 motorbikes. Going up some of the bigger hills puts a strain on the motorbike – so, if you plan to go 2 persons on a single bike – make sure that you get a motorbike strong enough. For sure, 2 falangs on a single motorbike might not make it up some of the steeper hills. In my case, we were always 1 falang and 1 Thai – and as we know, the Thais don’t weigh much. Next stop, was Samae Beach. This beach I really liked. During this trip, we visited 5 beaches in total and Samae was tied for my favorite with another beach that we visited on day 2. Samae, has the type of white beach sand that I really like with the gradual decline in the seabed, that allows you to walk out quite far before having to start swimming. The water is a beautiful transparent turquoise color. After almost arriving to sunset, we drove back to our room to freshen up for our Main Event – the birthday celebration of my Thai friend at the infamous Klom Klom restaurant / bar. The Klom Klom restaurant / bar is truly an eclectic cool hippy type of place and was an excellent choice to celebrate my friend’s birthday. This was one of my most favorite places in Thailand – something that I would expect to find up in PAI, in northern Thailand. A jazz band was playing during our visit. The food and drinks were very good. The only negative is that the food came from another affiliated place that is across the street – which made the wait for our meal somewhat longer than normal. When I thought that the bill would come, instead the waiters and band played and sang happy birthday for my Thai friend – which was a nice surprise. Even the customers joined into sing. A weird jello birthday dish was served with a lit candle in it (?? Thai tradition ??). To find this place – see below map – as it is about half way between Naban village and Tawaen Beach. Anybody who lives on Koh Larn knows about this place as it is super famous. Back home for some more drinks on our balcony to enjoy the illuminated Pattaya skyline. Day TWO – Tuesday 22 November 2022 We had to switch accommodation locations because one of our 2 bungalow rooms was rented out to another party (surprise snafu). So, we moved north of the main Naban village pier to ธนัชชา รีสอร์ท (Thanatcha Resort). Note from the map below, that this place is VERY close to the main ferry pier and if you remember from the above ferry schedule, the first ferry is at 6:30am bound for Pattaya. It starts blasting its horns for departure at 6:20am. So, I would avoid this place if you do not like to wake up early. Also, it is kind of run down and you can see that it has seen better days. It has a large wooden deck that is tastefully illuminated in the evening with an excellent view of the Pattaya city skyline. Breakfast is included. Price was the same as the previous accommodation, ฿1,500 baht per unit and we took 2 units. This place includes breakfast out on the terrace, which included a Thai kind of rice / chicken soup, toast and marmalades, and eggs sunny side up + coffee. Our next destination was to go see the BIG giant Buddha up on Buddha hill. What is impressive about this place is that you have an incredible view of almost all of Koh Larn – especially looking down onto the tourist packed Tawaen beach. Furthermore, this is where the paragliders take off and land – it was truly breathtaking to watch all of them as there was at least a dozen of them up in the air above us. Have any of you tried this paragliding thing? https://www.flykohlarn.com Driving down into Tawaen Beach, the scene was overwhelming, as the beach was teeming with tourists mainly from India – it was loud and super crowded. I told the guys to continue onwards, and we found a great place to have lunch just before the next beach over, where Tong Lang Beach starts. It was much more quiet and tranquil. I believe that Tawaen Beach is extremely crowded because the main ferry from Pattaya also stops here. Here is a photo of the tranquil and beautiful Tong Lang Beach, where we relaxed for a couple of hours. It was nice and pleasant – but was still not yet my most favorite beach spot. Our next stop was Tiennara (Tien Beach). As I mentioned from day one this was also my most favorite beach. But now after writing this report and reliving the fond memories, this beach is my number one favorite from this Koh Larn trip. Why? It is a very BIG (long) beach with many variations within the beach, such as lush green canopy overgrowth where there were many places to stay shaded, eat, relax, etc. There are even secluded places to lodge and stay overnight here --> I definitely need to return to sleep in one of them. Have any of you slept in any rooms that are directly at Tien Beach? If so, please share with us the relevant contact information. To arrive at this paradise, you first park your motorbikes and then walk on this elevated concrete pathway until you arrive onto Tiennara (Tien Beach). It feels different than the other beaches as you feel more isolated and more immersed into the nature with the white powdery beach sand. Note that walking north (opposite way from which you entered) you will eventually find some red chair lounges. This is where we stayed, and the older owner/manager is most likely gay and one of his sexy younger workers appears to also be gay. He was quite flirty – another reason to return to this beach. On our way into this beach over the elevated concrete walkway, my 2 Thai friends acknowledged a group of fellow gay Thai individuals who were heading back – as they only came for the day. So, perhaps this is the beach more frequented by us gays ? The sun was starting to set and it was time to drive back to our accommodation to freshen up and to head out to our last dinner on Koh Larn. The chosen Thai restaurant is, ยกยอ-เกาะล้าน (Lifted Yo - Koh Larn) https://yokyor-kohlarn.business.site/ which is located on the main road going south from the Naban village that follows the sea shoreline (see below map). It is a somtum type of Thai restaurant and the food was great. It received a 4.3 rating out of 5 maximum in Google. After dinner, we made a quick stop at 7-Eleven (even on Koh Larn they seem to be almost everywhere) to grab some beers to enjoy our last view of our hotel sea deck illuminated Pattaya / Jomtien city skyline. We had breakfast in the following morning at our 2nd day hotel and then off to return our motorbikes and join the crowd looking for speedboats back to Pattaya. Again, ฿150 baht per person one way. In about 22 minutes we were already back at the Bali Hali pier in Pattaya. We called a BOLT taxi to take us back to Jomtien. Would I go back to Koh Larn? MOST definitely – I was truly enchanted with this place and I see that it will take several trips to discover all of the nooks and crannies on this wonderful island – truly an oasis in nature to get away from the craziness of Pattaya city. What would I change? 1.) To have better control over the accommodations that were chosen – there are tons of them and some are truly amazing. 2.) To get over my anxiety to drive a motorbike in Thailand – as Koh Larn is definitely a tranquil place to overcome this fear. In closing, I hope that you enjoyed my long trip report. I hope by sharing all of this information with all of you that it will encourage some of you to take advantage of this unique place in Pattaya.

I think SK is Saphan Kwai, otherwise reader would have to be in 2 places at once!

SK = South Korea I assume Was it easy for you to find a gay massage place there ? I was in Seoul last year and I did find a gay massage place but I think they are illegal (well the happy ending is I think). Because they operate online on another name then their actual location. Their location online is wrong also. Only via chat you get the correct one. Same I had in Taipei. Was quite a hassle. I think you can’t legally run adult sex places there. So how did you find the massage places in South Korea? You had the same experience

I couldn't agree more. These days I'm actually not into kissing as I also consider it to be a very intimate gesture reserved for those with whom I share a mutual affection. Neither of my regulars kiss, but that doesn't bother me as they are both straight and such affection doesn't exist between us. The only time I feel the desire to kiss is when I'm being topped in the missionary position. I get that satisfaction from the guys who take care of me here. At a certain time in the fucking process when things are starting to to really heat up it sort of just happens naturally - all by itself. In my younger days kissing was usually part of the fun, as the guys I was having sex with were considered as possible lovers; the sex was always intimate. Having to pay for sex with someone much younger means such intimate relationshios are no longer available to me.

Great attitude to have. Im pretty sure, guys also have their fixed lower limit when it comes to tips, and thats fine too.

For some reason, from the subject line ... I thought @Olddaddy was somehow involved.....or was he 🤔

Send him to my neighborhood - I will give him a few Vinapu tucks 😜

I wanted off him for a massage so it would be 1500 at least , usually I don't do " tuck" to boys I'm intended to off given night.

That guy would earn 100 baht in 5 minutes when he would be enchanted with the famous "Vinapu tuck" experience. and he would not need to sit with a lady customer all night long getting drunk, which could lead to the possibility of not being able to perform in bed should he be offed.

song to my ears above. As a matter of my own policy I very rarely use plastic when I travel and if I do, only in places making impression of reputable - airlines , hotels, department or chain stores and such but even there I try to avoid it. I don't use smartphone for financial transactions unless there's absolutely no other option. Reason : I noticed that I keep better tally of my expenses when supply of money on me is somewhat limited.

I safely assume that there are many Thais , tilling the soil in some Ubon Nowhere who don't have bank account and it's for simple reason , not enough spare income to bother. As popularity of cheque cashing outlets in cities of rich world attests , even in our countries many people are going without bank account due to lack of money or sophistication or not meeting criteria to open one.

that was my point. Fascination with new and unknown easily offsets litter here and there in the sand. The same way first timer in go-go will see only half naked boys on the stage without noticing that floor is sticky, glass dirty and gin and tonic is 0% gin and 100% tonic.

all true , all good as long as boy is compensated fairly, not cheaply, fairly. always in my mind will stay situation from BBB where my intended boy was kept by lady customer as drinking companion for whole evening an at end of that session was tipped princely 100 baht (one hundred ). But I guess those situations are levelling of with excessively generous customers. The same boy showed me another night his semi- permanent customer, Malaysian ship captain, who pays him 3000 or 4000 just for in-the -room drinking session, both dressed.

A large number of Pattaya moneyboys puts up a post on Facebook in the lead up to birthday with a QR code for anyone to send them a donation, and most Thai will be able to take payment by QR code if needed. The non Thais are less likely to have a Thai bank account, mostly down to lack of trust and lack of knowledge on how to open an account My BF sent one guy 5 Baht recently after he posted, said thats all the beggar deserved!

TRIP REPORT: MORE DAYS IN PATTAYA The days in Pattaya have been very relaxed. Just what I need before I go on a solo sightseeing trip in China. During daytime at the beach. Reading, listening podcasts, maybe take a short nap. Late afternoon hours are for chilling in hotelroom. Sometimes enjoying a massage. Out for dinner and after some drinks. One of the dinners was in 3Mermaids restaurant on top of the Pattaya cliffs. Beautifully views and very nice of you can sit in one of the "birdsnests" overlooking the restaurant and sea. Pre-booking these seats is recommended, but we were lucky there was still a nest available when we turned up unannounced. Thanks to @bkkmfj2648 and his "local friend" for taking me there. Depending on what you choose, food can be a bit pricey. But you also pay for "the experience". The restaurant is located in Phra Tamnak and there are a few popular restaurants with also great views next to each other. Below picture of Forest restaurant. If you're staying in pattaya I do recommend using the Hornet app besides Grindr. Spent a few bucks on 1 month paid membership and much more twinks show up on Hornet than in Grindr. Worth it. At foxy massage there was a new boy. Arrived in Pattaya 5 days ago but already got recommendations about him. So off course needed to try the new boy out. The 500baht fee for massage place was fixed. But the "tip" for the boy himself was according to him completely up to me. I made sure and gave him reasonable rate of 2000baht but probably new boy needs to learn he has to come up with a minimum tip amount himself during chatting. Before he falls in the hands of a cheap basterd who will maybe only give him 1000baht after his services... Very friendly and sweet guy. But English skills very bad. Even simple sentences needed the translation app before he could understand. His massage was nice. Relaxing, sensual. Not hard. And for extra service he really likes to look for what you enjoy to make sure you like what he is doing. When he took a shower afterwards I already thought he was taking long time in bathroom. But found out he made some new pictures for his grindr profile in my bathroom... See one of these pics below. By the way this guy likes making pictures of himself. He is changing his profile pics more often than @vinapu is switching boys when visiting Thailand... 😜🤣 Massageboy smelled familiar when he came out of the bathroom. He had put on some of my perfume, which I didn't mind.

Its pretty basic and simple, its still a FACT that Trump could win, so these cowardly, spineless greedy billionaires are making a "business" decision not to anger Trump should he win, and "weaponize" DOJ to take retribution on THEM as he promised he would. YES, Trumps P2025 manifesto, and his own words have "some" people running scared after almost 10 years of hate speech and threats. The only reason Trump didnt enact retribution in his 1st 4 years was because of Sane people holding him back. There are no sane people left to Stop Trump now, so his threats are more serious. Trump won here, BUT will he win the "long" game. ?

Consult your accountant - if you purchased at IPO in April 2024 and sold already, you won't qualify for long term capital gain tax rate (you held it for less than a year) - it will be taxed as ordinary income. 🤓 Sorry to disappoint...then again, you are a Trump supporter so you are probably used to chronic disappointment. 😆😆

Thank you @Keithambrose for supporting the sensitivity of this delicate topic that deserves dignity for our guys. https://digitalcommons.uri.edu/dignity/vol2/iss4/10/ Click on the hyperlink once the above document opens to see the actual study/report that is some 30 pages long. It mainly focuses on the male sex industry in Chiang Mai, with its peculiar set of demographics, but in my opinion applies to all of Thailand. My hope is that if you are sincere and take the time to read it you will truly begin to understand the plight of our guys that give us comfort, that in my opinion, also deserve our protection and nurturing from the nasty side of this industry. +2 @reader - yes this is VERY true. The same is true here in the local Jomtien massage shops where the guys are VERY vulnerable to ignorance and/or cheapness by the visiting punters - especially if the masseur is working freelance, where his ONLY source of income are from the customer tips {above mentioned report in the .pdf document states this several times}. As I have written before in other forum posts about this topic I blame the massage shops for not indoctrinating the incoming customer on the expected tip culture for said massage shop. I note that in BKK that often when you sit down with the manager to select your massage oil, masseur, desired program, etc. the manager will often explain the expected tipping culture or show you a placard which clearly states it - in this way the masseur is protected from cultural ignorance of the customer and/or stinginess. Unfortunately, this practice is almost non-existent here in Jomtien and then there is noone to protect our local masseurs. And some of my local massuer friends have told me that one of the questions that they first ask to the prospective punter is, "where do you come from?", and if it is a certain set of countries then they will know to only expect a 20 to 100 baht tip for 60 minutes of work - so, sometimes they will decline the customer and/or try to explain to them the expected tip - but that is difficult, as the punter will then make a verbal fuss - thus creating a potentially confrontational situation which Thai people hate - as that goes against their cultural upbringing. Therefore, if the shop manager would do like they do back in BKK this problem could be alleviated.

Thursday is still the best night at California. The live sex show was alright. The bottom is kinda hot. Surprised they do bareback. Conclusion : Will not in the hurry to come back to Fortaleza. Once every couple of years should be good enough. Leaving for Recife tomorrow. Hope it fares better.

You make very good points, as does Spoon and emiel1981. To say, as Olddaddy does, that it's a business transaction, misses the point. I have said before that the idea of screwing a boy down (pun intended), to a ludicrously low level, is unacceptable, in my view, especially boasting about it on line. So I'm with you on this.

Very sensible comments! I also use thressones more frequently. If we all three cum, 'mission accomplished', as one of my regulars said!

Hahahaha! Or should I write: 5555 That none of the willing boys from X-Boys found their way to my hotel room, doesn't mean I did not have some fun in the bedroom. I had appointment with a MB from the USA... Quite a novelty. He was a very friendly "straight" boy, with who you can also have nice conversation. Heavy tattooed chest. Very good body. Nice cut dick. But... Available for Thai prices! 2000baht for massage, touching, mutual sucking. 3000baht if he needs to bottom. This straight boy told me he loves anal stimulation. Because he's straight he doesn't like kissing with a guy... But... There a price on everybody and everything. So when you pay 4000baht kissing is possible according to his "price list". Below is his Grindr profile. Massage was average. Not very special but sufficient. His sucking was nice and his dick also nice to suck. Somehow it was a big turn on to make a straight buy hard... Lol

he may have better chance on apps in Pattaya

Oldadaddy, there are five other shops on Soi 6 where you can choose your guy. No one takes offense regardless who you choose because they're accustomed to the system. Good luck. 🙂

Yes he loves Bangkok but he is not into Asian guys ,he has been looking at Russian and Arabic guys

I will add, each day I’ve been leaving tip for the maid. As I engage the clean room sign every day. The note on the desk says they clean once every three days but I like bed made and fresh towels. she leaves me extra disposable toothbrushes, cotton swabs etc, which is nice for the boys I have over cause they can use to freshen up before and after. I also asked her, using google translate, if she could leave me extra towels, which she did and came in extra handy last night. In the evening they close the side entrance and only have the main entrance open, however has been no issues bringing anyone back, even the two last night, I found it funny last night taxi driver remembered me, even remembered which hotel I was bringing boys back to.

k 😂 😅 I apologise maybe it's my slang sentences 😮 This week as in the future this week,meaning before Sunday ,so I will be going there ...this week . However when I arrive...this week.😉...I will still be posting on here ... although that might be ....next week!😀 I did post a lot ...last week...I'm hoping I post more next week..as I'm arriving..this week As for having nothing better to do ...your right...I'm at home waiting for my flight this week. 😳 I hope that makes sense ☺️

HOW OLD ARE YOU 😱

I don't think any of the posters here has done full time remote jobs from/in Brazil. I bet most of them are retired already.